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“your “live and let live” attitude is responsible for much destruction in klal yisroel and is in apposition to what gedolim have been trying to change for decades.”
little harsh dont u think? my “live and let live” attitude applies to how others spend their money… not to domestic and sexual abuse, fraud and cheating of non jews and government, and baseless hatred of Jews which NEARLY ALL frum people have an attitude of “live and let live” or “lets just ignore” about, which in my opinion MAY have a little bit more to do with the destruction in klal yisroel then whether someone spends money on designer items or not.
“Your statement “And YES I do think that Rabbis telling people how much to spend on their weddings is completely ridiculous and authoritarian.” gives me an incite into your lack of reverence for our gedolim.”
you’re right. I am not allowed to have an opinion that differs from some rabbonim. next time I will follow blindly without thinking on my own. what was that about destruction of klal yisroel?
your words are very hurtful, but i’m sure hashem doesnt care about that, he only cares that you keep worrying about how people spend their money
i meant u can**
idk abt a program but i can def easily create an excel spreadsheet
“This whole thread is a lack of “farginin yenim” It is absolutely none of anyone’s business what anyone spends there money on! By the way the last time I looked at any beautiful new buildings of Shules or schools, my name wasn’t on it! The people you are referrring to, may give alot of money to tzedaka, which is also none of your business.
I just was not brought up that way, to look how others spend or what they have.Live and let live.”
This thread is moving too fast for me- im replying to things that are there one minute, gone the next.. etc.. so i’m just going to reiterate my first point, and be done with it.
the short answer is its really not your business how other people spend their money.
B) You can really do without it and can give more money to tzedaka but simply do not care to give more and are content with the amount you have already given.
or you already give the maximum amount that halacha says you can give…
you’re actually not making me feel guilty or embaressed, because I grew up very poor and dont own a single “very expensive” item. But I’m not suprised that you assumed that anyone who would disagree with you was wealthy themselves.
and maybe if your whole issue to begin with was that you dont think people should wear brands because they are trying to up their status you should have just said so, instead of trying to make it a whole halachic thing that they arent giving to tzedaka which is just false (in 99% of cases).
Almost never have outer tags or a way to distinguish them as a specific brand.
But many women- especially frum- will buy “waste money” expensive shoes.
what do you think their motivation for dropping $500 on a pair of shoes that no one will ever know are designer???
“The reason why a Gucci bag differs from a nice steak is that you are not spending money on pleasure: you are wasting money on status to put yourself over your brother (or in this case sister).”
Disagree with this completely.Many people own designer items that dont even have an outer tag- what do you say about that?
If I buy a lexus but remove the logo- thats okay?? even tho ur original claim that the money is being wasted if its not going to tzedaka, and NOT about people trying to be above one another…
And YES I do think that Rabbis telling people how much to spend on their weddings is completely ridiculous and authoritarian.
Well obviously your are judging people who spend money on brand name items- how can you deny you’re not???
I just want to point out that Halacha says you should give minimum 10% but maximum 20%.. There are many people out there who even if they give 50% would still have left over.. and then what they choose to spend it on is their own choice and no one else’s business.
great. maybe the next thing you can work on is being dan lekaf zechus??
Why dont you focus on using your own body and money the way Hashem desires?
the short answer is its really not your business how other people spend their money. Most likely if they have 1,000 Gucci bags, they are giving more to tzedaka then you even imagine.
If you’re asking for yourself, i think the way you asked the question shows how you feel about it..April 23, 2013 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146979
I know someone who eats CY in the house, but not out.
Is that common?
haha! I sat in class and spaced out all day!!
” sw33t is a pleasure to have in class”
EVERY SINGLE YEAR
“If people don’t have much money to begin with, go on welfare, and have a lot of kids, I wouldn’t think they’d be so keen on going out for $50 steaks and $35 fish dinners in Manhattan.
If I were a rich man, I’d still do my own cooking. “
What is this in response too?
what ever happened to just following the torah?
so sick of all the labels.
None are real anyway.April 22, 2013 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146935
Just in case there’s any doubt about the joking going around here…
I was under the impression that is ILLEGAL for there to be anything other then cows milk and thats why we can drink cholov stam. And yes, it is heavily regulated in a way we can trust because of all the severe milk allergies they MUST be 100% careful about what goes in the milk.
Also, no one milks pigs, so the example is just ridiculous. (and i looked that up)
However, there is this Indian (hindu) guy at work, and he told me they dont have milk/dairy in their home, because when cows are getting milked, blood can get in the milk (from the utters being sore). So therefore they are makpid not to bring any dairy into their house. I was wondering why the Jews dont care about that? Batul BaShishim??
Anyways you probably are just sensitive to the heavier lactose/ creamy non CY milk… or psychologically you feel bad.April 19, 2013 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947920
I think a better ex would be when someone is killed by a drunk driver, the survivors usually blame the driver, not alcohol.April 19, 2013 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947914
I’m pretty conservative (politically) so I was always anti gun control. After all the terrible shootings we’ve had, I do understand why people want it.
But I did see this and thought it was an interesting point: When a bombng happens, we blame the bomber. When a stabbing happens we blame the stabber. But when a shooting happens we blame the gun.
Simplistic, but still a lot of truth in that.
MATH JOKES!!!!!!!April 18, 2013 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm in reply to: All Children Who Leave Our Community Should Pain Us Equally #947401
My point was that if I had to choose between worrying about my child’s yiddishkeit, vs worrying about their yiddishkeit AND their physical safety, I think I would rather the first. I think I would be very upset and dissapointed that they are throwing away their roots but would be grateful that they did not turn to drugs, etc.
And I really dont see what is so bad about feeling that way. But, please, keep making me out like I’m saying something terrible.April 18, 2013 3:49 am at 3:49 am in reply to: All Children Who Leave Our Community Should Pain Us Equally #947393
I know that my comments is what prompted this thread.
I want to state very clearly that I do not feel that just because an OTD child becomes successful, that its not as sad or painful. I think it is a loss for the Jewish community all the same.
But I also feel, that if it does happen, the best case scenario would be that the child becomes educated and becomes a productive member of society, as opposed to just wasting away like I’m sure we have all witnessed.
I do understand the other side though, because from what I’ve seen, these people who are OTD but successful, are detached from Judaism on a whole different level. I get it. But I have also seen the other type of OTD people, who create a train wreck out of their lives.. I mean we can all die any second, but a drug addict has a higher chance. Someone hanging out on the streets at 4am has a higher chance..
Does nobody see my point?? … I guess I understnad if you dont.. it is just how I feel.
Yes, I know. But all yenta-ing aside. Realistically, since your child will be OTD either way, wouldn’t you rather they become educated and productive??
Imaofthree-are you unhappy that your child got an education? Because that is how you made it seem in the earlier post.
Crisis of the week: It is not good news that the OTD kids are getting a decent education now that they are off the derech and out of yeshiva.
Because later on they get married to goyim. Not good news. ūüôĀ
I dont understand this at all. And I do not see the connection.
It used to be that many OTD kids became drug addicts, unable to hold jobs, and generally unproductive members of societies. Now they can get educated, get a job and live a good productive life- but not religious. Not trivializing observance, but do you really think that’s a worse outcome??
related coursework, relevant skills, volunteer work, community service (chessed) , if you are an emt/hatzalah, if you did army, if you won any academic contests, if you were in an honors program and/or graduated with honors..
1- this swiet username is confusing
2-non heimish companies are MOST likely to do a background check, and every job I’ve held has done so, even when my position was only an intern.
3-most people who are succesful without college degrees own some sort of business (a good ex of this is all the diamond dealers on 47th st). But if you dont want to have a business and have a career, you need a degree to even be considered.
4-have you heard of bulka college?
Last, I really think it will be good for you to finish. For job prospects, and to know that you completed something. From my first semester I wanted to quit college. I hated it and felt like it was getting me nowhere. After I graduated and didn’t have a job straight away I felt like I had wasted four years of my life- so trust me, i’ve been there. But in the end, things fell into place and I know now that quitting would have been so so stupid.
charliehall literally said everything I was thinking.
i switching isnt an option maybe find out about shiurim/jewish classes/emet.. to get more involved in??April 12, 2013 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm in reply to: How to tell the Shadchan that the girl's too heavy #946240
“Just say, she’s too fat. Then she’ll be motivated to lose weight and she’ll go on a diet and become skinny and marry someone else. Have a nice day and please stop posting boring threads about all the fat girls that get suggested to you. “
This is amazing. +10000000
math jokes !!!!!!!!!!!
make it happen !
I did- it was the first thing I did this morning !
but really, that’s pretty bad.
Srotin: confused about your repeated references on “staying true to BY”
I’m assuming you mean that staying true to BY means becoming a secretary, OT, PT, ST, or an accountant-only if you work in a small brooklyn office?
Also I know someone who works for the gov. She is very frum, and a math genius. I dont think she ever works on Shabbat, and I cant imagine she ever would without a heter from a very credible rav.April 11, 2013 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm in reply to: If this is what we've been waiting 2000 years for… #1073679
i’m a little late but..
“I would have become christian”
Incorrigible; semi-retarded; eccentric; perhaps a man; possibly christian; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily cynical.
LOLApril 8, 2013 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm in reply to: How Do I Lose The 5-10 Pounds I Gained Over The Yom Tov Season QUICKLY? #943061
in need of some weight loss inspiration!April 8, 2013 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm in reply to: How Do I Lose The 5-10 Pounds I Gained Over The Yom Tov Season QUICKLY? #943059
I understand not having opposite gender non married teachers. (divorced man teaching girls, divorced woman teaching boys)
What’s the problem with a divorced man teaching boys/ divorced woman teaching girls?
Like I orginally said, I think that the main difference between college brainwashing and Jewish school brain washing is that in college I had the ability and the CHOICE to just write what the prof wanted to hear and move on with my life. If I disagreed with what they said- it’s because I have a different opinion. In Jewish schools I often felt like if i disagreed with what a teacher was saying that meant there was something “differnt”, “bad”, or “wrong” with me.
and no, I was not a trouble maker kid. I pretty much never debated anything with my teachers, and I excelled in all my “hebrew” classes. This was just a subconsious feeling that I had, as a result of being part of the system which brainwashes you into believing that everyone has to think and act the same. Again, I had this both in the BY and MO school I went to- this crosses all sects of orthodoxy, I am not picking on the BY system. I do not regret going to any of the schools I went to, I loved all of them, and I dont mind that I got brainwashed by them, I dont even think its their fault, its just a product of our community, but I refuse to look back on my life and deny that I was brainwashed.
“In an MBA program you will learn how racial or religious discrimination is bad for business and needs to be stamped out. “
Are you saying that people believe in being transparent in accounting, and not discriminating against religion, purely do so because they are brainwashed to believe so?
Also, I dont put eco on the same bar as acct/fin. Economics is theoretical and therefore subjected to opinions and ideas. Acct/fin is the application of formulas that are mathematically proven- much more objective.
maybe I’ve just had a different experience then everyone else,
but whenever I took a college course where the professor pushed ideas- and that was NOT in many of my classes, [the only ones I can think of were history, poli sci, and sociology, out of the 150 credits i graudated with]I just tuned them out, wrote what they wanted to hear on exams, and moved on with my life.
[“you are not required to believe, let alone follow, any of them.”
As a professor, I regret that I must say that is not always the case. There exist academic fads and while undergraduates can ignore them and survive, that is not the case for graduate students and junior faculty.]
I’ve never gone to graduate school, but i would imagine everything is relative to what the student is studying?
As in, if the student is getting a phD in middle easter studies, clearly they will have ideas pushed on them..
But what about an MS in accounting, an MBA, a ST/OT/PT degree…
Those are school experiences where you just go to class, learn, study, graduate and get a job. no outside ideas.
unless I’m mistaken???
and as per college,
yes, some professors do push their views on you.
but unlike in the Jewish education system, you are not required to believe, let alone follow, any of them.
I went to three different schools ( my family moved a lot) one BY, one MO day school, and one in the middle.
All had very positive aspects, as well as negative.
But brainwashing was prevelant in all three.
props to crisis of the week for thinking of the funniest possible response…
I only skimmed this, but it seems that not one person commeted on the usage of the word “nebs” to describe older singles…
but i suppose that was point of the thread to begin with…
I’m a girl and I’m at work today.. I would gladly have come in yesterday and had today off!!!!!!!!!
Also, I use all my vacation days on just Chagim. any “erev” or “chol hamoed” i start losing money… and from what I understand,most people are in the same boat..
oh man…. cant wait to see how this blows up..