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@LABoy – there was a Roman general who pressed Avrohom Fried by at least a few years: pygmaeii gigantem humeris impositi plusquam ipsi gigantes vident.
Rav Zelig Reuven Bengis was once asked why the traditional “Eretz Yisroel” was abandoned by the Zionists, who called their state only “Yisroel”. He famously replied:
על מה אבדה ה”ארץ”, על עזבם את תורתי
Rational: hence my point. If YO wants to pluralize as tallisos because that is the vernacular in spoken Hebrew, gezunterheit. But then he should not be outraged at those who pluralize talleisim because that is the vernacular in Yiddish.
YO: one reason we call it Shalosh Seudos is because there is a mitzvah to eat three meals on Shabbos. When eating the first two, however, there is no indication that we are doing it for the mitzvah, since it is normal to eat a meal at night and a meal in the morning. When we eat the third meal, however, which is usually much earlier than the evening meal is typically eaten (especially in the winter months),we are showing that even those first two meals were eaten not because of convention, but for the mitzvah. Therefore we refer to that third meal as Three Meals, because that is the “megaleh” on all three.
Rational – the plural of tallis in Chazal is talliyos. You can find this in the Mishna in Zavim, as well as in a few places in Gemara. There is one instance of “tallisos” in some editions of the Gemara Shabbos, but the Munich ms. and accurateeditions have it as talliyos.
I always find it funny when people rant against the errors of others while remaining ignorant of their own deficiencies. In a famous story, a man came to Rav Moshe Feinstein to complain about the lack of knowledge of dikduk among yeshivaleit. In the way common among Americans, the man vocalized diduk with the stress mile’eil – DIK-duk. Rav Moshe gently corrected him, saying, “it’s actually dik-DUK.”
@YabiaOmer – if you’re going to rant against others’ grammar, make sure your own is correct. It’s not “tallisos” but “talliyos”.
Joseph: for the umpteenth time, that would make sense if he said all Ashkenazic hechsherim are subpar. Since he singled out the Eidah as being the worst, that must not be his intention.
Joseph – you missed the boat. The Rishon Letziyon was not saying that the Sefardic hechsher is the best, he was saying that among ALL THE HECHSHERIM, whether Sefardi or Ashkenazi, the Eidah is the worst FOR MEAT ONLY. Do you understand the difference now?
Joseph – so you’re saying that the Rabbonim of the Eidah Hachareidis hold the Eidah Hachareidis hechsher to be acceptable? And that for that reason we should accept it, despiteothers disagreeing? Wow, I hadn’t realized that! So when Belzer meat was essentially treif, we should have eaten it because the Rabbonim of the Belz Badatz said it was good! And (lehavdil) everybody in this forum should accept that Chassidus Chabad and all of its minhogim are the correct way to go, because that’s what the Rebbe Melech Hamoshiach Shlita said! Have you ever heard of a self-referential loop? Or circular reasoningn
Lowerourtuition – if you watch the video, he doesnt actually say those two words. Not sure why the writer of the article added them.
Apushatayid – as YO pointed out, that is spelled with a final alef, meaning it is not feminine. Moreover, the Meleches Shlomo says it (maybe) should be pronounced Ayla (with a Schwa under the Yud)
Maran the Rishon Letzion says that the Eidah Hachareidis is the WORST POSSIBLE hashgacha for meat (not chicken).
Laskern – cherry picking sources doesnt make those who dont follow them mekilim (despite the late unlamented RGP). No less an authority than the Shlah saysthat it is a SAKANA to say Mizmor Shir Leyom Hashabbos after shkiah. How many shuls do you know that are makpid to ALWAYS finish kabbolas Shabbos earlier than shkiah?
(And if you know some that are, they are almost certainly being meikil in other areas such as saying Shema before the zman….)
In the Yerushalmi (beginning of Megillah) it’s רב חביבה
“Most geniuses acquire that title in the same way a centipede comes by its name; not because it has a hundred legs, but because most people cant be bothered to count past 14.”
Also Rav Simcha of Dessau, one of the meforshim in the back of the Vilna Shas.
And if you have trouble wrapping your mind around Simcha being a Male name, how about Chaviva? It’s the name of an Amora……
And The Rebbe, Nesi Doreinu Shlita, is by you nothing? If He davens at the regular time, eilov tishmo’un!
RGP – how do you explain the Chazal that Aramis has a special chashivus given that the Torah Itself uses that language?
Rebbetzin Golden said “totafos un the Torah is also not a Hebrew word”.
Chas vesholom. The only language other than Lashon Hakodesh contained in the Torah is Aramaic,and that only in the two words yegar sohaduso. Thus say Chazal. When we say that that and pas have meanings in Kaspi and Afriki it is just a soman or a giluy (Rema mipanu, Beer Sheva)
So, in the classic tradition of all the tzorerim of klal Yisroel, rebbetzin golden maintains that when OTHERS engage in olam hazeh, they are oiver an issur deOraysa of kadeish atzmecha, but when SHE engages she’s doing the mitzvah of making a dirah batachtonim….
She is takeh a ח’כם מ’ובהק ו’רב ר’בנן….
In any case, you know why Lubavitchers dont eat bread by shalosh seudos? Ess Pas Nisht! :p
Rebbetzin golden- you went to a restaurant? And by implication, you ate? What happened to kadeishatzmecha bemutat lach? Did youeat only bread and drink only water?
Rebbetzin golden – wow, nice how u scream at everyone to have respect for minhogim and kreizen but you can talk with such zilzul about the minhag supported by Rabboseinu Nesieinu. Disgusting the way you talk.
Rebbetzin golden – funny way you have of showing respect. If it was good enough for The Rebbe, it should be good enough for you. You and all your gedaylim can snooze through davening on Shovuos, it’s probably the same as you daven all year.
Minhag Chabad is to stay up learning until Alos Hashachar, and then to go to sleep until regular davening time, so we can daven like chassidim, not tired plapelling.
At least we now know that Rabbetzin Goldenstehdusjr davens nusach sefer (no kulam kedoshim added in Ashkenaz)
An ikur (sic) of emunah to respect talmidei chachomim? Which if the 13 ikkarim is that, exactly? You seem to have a tendency to do ikur on halacha, on minhag, and on rationality, but what does that have to do with emunah?
@rebbetzin, I disrespect my chassidus? How, exactly? My chassidus is what teaches me az a rebbe is doh nor einer. In fact, my religion in general teaches me that – remember Rashi? Tol mateh vehach al kodkodom, dabor echod ledor etc! My chassidus explains at great length the inyan of a Nossi, as was noted by many people in the Chabad threads. The only time they go off the rails is when they try to zetz ein silly things to mollify the misnagdim. But I do nothing to disrespect my chassidus, I only speak its truth.
@avram, which ikkarei emunah am I denying in that post, exactly?
@rebbetzin eilu v’eilu is a holy Jewish value, except when one of the sides is Moshe Rabbeinu (ispashtusa d’Moshe bechdel dor). That’s the lesson we learn from Korach – he was a big talmid chucho vechu’, but when you argue on the Nossi you are nothing, you lose all maamad.
That’s the answer to OutOfTown’s question also – when we refer to the relationship the Rebbe Shlita has with talmidei chachomim and rabbonim, it’s not a shoveh beshoveh but a noisein and a mekabel.
Either way. This thread seems to have begun with a ridiculous attempt to say that when we in Lubavitch refer to certain people without titles, no disrespect is meant. Please.we all know that’s ridiculous.
I dont really understand the point of this thread. Yes, obviously the reason we dont give titles to certain people (I will even avoid mentioning a name here so the mods dont give him a title in my words) is because we have zero respect for them, because they do not deserve any honor, because they went against the Nesi Yisroel, the Rebbe Shlita. Are the lubavitchers here trying to imply that we dont give them titles as a sign davka of our respect? That’s ridiculous, and then you are being mehapeich the tzinoros! The Rebbe doesnt want you to try to lie and mislead people! That doesnt bring honor to Him! Say it like it is!March 31, 2019 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm in reply to: Pessach: zman chairuseinu but not zman geulaseinu? #1705736
Shichrur is Aramaic. The four leshoinois are loshon hakoidesh
The Rebbe is different. We dont refer to the Rebbe by his name, even not by roshei teivos (like he was referred to before the Nesius) but just The Rebbe. Everybody in the world knows who The Rebbe is, when talking about other rebbes they say Gerrer rebbe, satmar rebbe etc., but everyone knows who The Rebbe is.
edited! We do not capitalize the word ‘he’ when talking about a person!
Anyusername are you referring to mashgi lagoyim vaye’abdeim or ki yeshorim darchei Havayeh tzaddikim yelchu vom vechu’ yikoshlu bom? Either way, some nerve you have calling others uneducated when you just throw around musogim without knowing what you’re really talking about. The Rebbe ZT”L (edited) doesnt need or want an advocate like you. Shvaig shoin.
Any username- Rso has your number. You keep trying to bring “proofs” oiszehen bei di misnagdim, and Rso keeps actually researching your proofs and debunking them (e.g. David Lichtenstein, the Rashi and Maharsho in Sanhedrin, the Sdei Chemed….). Hu hadovor asher dibarti – der Rebbe lent, der Rebbe gent, vehamefursomos einom tzrichos raayo. Those who deny do so because of hagoy asher bekorbicho, vos heist zich on misnaged, and no amount of proof will sway them. They deny at their own peril. So stop already! You are making a chillul Lubavitch!
@anyusername, you are going to bring rayos from David Lichtenstein? Who writes in the introduction to his book that YitzchokAvinu was mistaken (Rl) in giving the brochos to Yaakov, and we all need to be more like Eisov?!? Lubavitch doesnt need raayos from people like him. Everybody knows the Rebbe is the Rebbe, and all the arguing is just Amoleik shebikirbom! No proofs needed!March 26, 2019 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm in reply to: Any kosher ideas for boys and girls to hang out together = solve shiduch crisis? #1702556
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Additionally, the Rebbe himself showed that there is room to be mefakpeik mitzad hadin on the issue of shaving. See the very first holy letter in Igros Kodesh where He shows that there is room to disagree with the Tzemach Tzedek’s teshivah on the matter.
The Rebbe edit wore a fedora, as well as a tie. He also instructs all shluchim to wear ties when dealing with the general public.
As far as the sefer Hadras Ponim Zoken, to be fair, that sefer has an agenda, and conveniently ignores or whitewashes the clear shittos that permit shaving, including the Yerushalmi, Rosh, Tur, Chasam Sofer, and Rav Moshe Feinstein.
Just as each shevet had their own shaar and nusach hatefilloh, and for those who did not know their shevet there was a nusach hakoleil, which is the nusach of the Arizal as given to us by the Alter Rebbe, so too there is a derech hakoleil in Yiddishkeit which is appropriate for each and every Yid (even though a few yechidei seguloh might recognize their shoresh haneshomo and have a derech which is appropriate for them specifically, but not for others, these are few and far between). This derech is the derech of the Baal Shem Tov, as further elucidated by his primary talmid the Mezeritcher Maggid, and continuing through the doiros from Rabboiseinu Nesieinu until and including Kevod Kedushas Admor the Rebbe edited. This it is appropriate for each and every Yid to spend time studying and internalizing Chassidus Chabad, and being miskasher to the Nossi Hador, the Rebbe. Each Yid can do this while maintaining the minhogim and piskei halocho followed in his kreiz, as the Rebbe told many many people who came to Him from other kreizen, yet if he chooses he can also make an informed decision to adopt minhogei upiskei Chabad, as we see throughout the doiros that people chose to follow new kinhogim and paskened differently al pi klolei hapsak, ve’ein loi ledayon elo ma sheeinov roiois.January 6, 2019 9:33 am at 9:33 am in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1657646
At another Purim Farbrengen the Rebbe pointed out that al pi halacha it is forbidden to put oneself into a position of vadai sakana even to save a whole klal from a future sakana, so Esther would not have been allowed, according to halacha, to go in to Achashveirosh. Luckily, however, Mordechai was not a misnaged……December 27, 2018 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1653111
Except that the Arizal explains, based in Midrashim, that Moshiac ben Yosef’s demise is not a foregone conclusion.December 27, 2018 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1653022
As far as the Rambam is concerned, there are two very obvious reasons why he chose to write neherag rather than meis. The more famous one is that he is referring to the actual case of Bar Kochba, who was killed. Everybody knows that the derech of the Rambam is not to be mechadeish dinim but to stick as closely as possible to the words of Chazal. The other (and to my aniyus daas more likely) explanation is that the Rambam understands locheim milchamos Hashem kipshuto, that Moshiach will be engaged in fighting actual, physical wars. As such one who is not truly Moshiach will likely end up neherag, rather than simply meis.
And to Shlucha’s assertion that no one bothered to be medayeik in the loshon hoRambam before Gimmel Tammuz because “it wasn’t necessary” – are you kidding?! Almost eight centuries of talmidei chachomim horeving on every kutzoh shel yud of the Rambam, including the entire seforim that are not practically relevant today, and nobody noticed this diyuk because it wasn’t necessary? Come on!November 28, 2018 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1632564
I tried to respond but my posts won’t go through. I guess that’s this site’s version of a balanced discussion – letting you malign the kedoshei elyon and making it look as if we agree by blocking our responses.November 26, 2018 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1630931
A happy sweet new year to all of you! You should be zocheh to the Light of Chassidus this year!November 26, 2018 7:50 am at 7:50 am in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1630466
RSo:”where is TT in all this”.
I posted a response, but I guess it didn’t pass moderation. I’m not sure why.
One point which I will try to get through here: you asked whether a Tanya may not be placed under a Sefer Torah, and were told of course it may, but from your response afterwards you seem to be talking about a Chumash, not a ST. The Rebbe would famously take Tanya’s from on top of Chumashim AND Chumashim from on top of Tanyas.November 21, 2018 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1628647
Shlucha: “the Rebbe is the Rebbe of us all.”
Exactly! Regardless if people recognize that fact or not.November 20, 2018 10:35 am at 10:35 am in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1626773
When people like Ezra Hakoifer think they will minimize who the Rebbe is to be more accepted by the misnagdim, you’d better believe we will call him out on it!November 20, 2018 10:21 am at 10:21 am in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1626758
Shlucha: “the shmuel munkes story was your justification for your non ahavas yisrael ways but the truth is its not a good one. Because there the Alter Rebbe had just been saved from am almost death sentence and libel which was committed by the misnagdim who all supported it. So we can understand how he couldn’t help himself.”
Today also thr Rebbe is being labeled by the misnagdim, including ones posting here, being maktin the Rebbe’s gadlus by suggesting that we have to compare him to all kinds of people who were not worthy to be dust under his holy feet, among other liberals. And the almost death sentence is not greater than the helem that the Rebbe must undergo now – do you think it’s not because of the misnagdim that he – and lehavdil we – are suffering through since Gimmel Tammuz?!November 19, 2018 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1626268
Shlucha: the Langeh Brief is a justification? Of what?November 19, 2018 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm in reply to: The world is in a state of Geula- and don’t misunderstand us! #1626238
Shlucha = “Btw to all of those of you saying that’s an apikorus but no litvak would say such a thing – a more realistic statement would be along the lines of, I could care less if moshiach comes in 200 years and I don’t give any thought to it at all. As long as I get my schar I’m happy. That would be a more realistic kefira statement ”
Careful – you dont want the snags to know that the Frierdiker Rebbe revealed to us that they think this way! Lol
Anyways with regard to the question above, OF COURSE the Rebbe loved all Jews, including teenagers exploring avoda Zara in India, people angry at G-d, or exploring all types of forbidden things. Oh yeah and also Reis Yesiveis who were noisdu yochad al Hashem veal Meshichoi. Why wouldn’t he love them? Me, as a chossid, I find it more difficult to lo e them, as in the story with Reb Shmuel Munkes. But you cannot judge the Rebbe by his chassidim.