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DaMoshe > He did not see a healthy relationship between his parents,
R Pliskin addresses this in his book “Marriage” (highly recommend).
You ask such a person – did you ever witness a healthy family, but only a couple of days a year being a guest somewhere, majority of my memories are of unhealthy one.
Then, a solution: continuously play in your mind positive experiences you had, and then majority of your memories would be of healthy events and you can apply them to your family life.
ACA v RomneyCare. I am not an expert to judge whether these systems are similar or just a marketing trick by Obamacarers. But a clear difference is that RC was a state plan. If it was so successful, there would be other states creating similar ones. Obama could have promoted it in IL or DC (did he?).
Maybe after say 10-15 states did well, there would be some (weak) argument to have a federal system. Otherwise, it just does not sound true.
CTL,
so you feel suspicious of Trump’s victory because he relied on the venerable institution of electoral college? First, you obviously referee a game by the rules it is played. It would be silly to declare a victory in a basketball game to the team who possessed the ball more time or had less fouls. If the rules would be based on proportional vote, both sides would campaign differently and it would have been a different game.Furthermore, electoral college reflects an agreement that States reached in order to join together in a (highly successful) Union. Most people who argue for abolishing it are either ignorami or hope that others are. I am sure CTL is none of these, so maybe you can explain why you are trying to pressure citizens into abandoning it. Note that that agreement was achieved as a complicated peshara between multiple parties. Should serve as a good lesson in only making changes that only a large majority will be happy with.
On ACA: my experience as a small business owner is similar to Dr Pepper – huge increases in deductibles and gradual increase in premiums for business medical insurance. My overheads are tolerable only because my employees run huge salaries as professionals. I can’t imagine what is happening with small companies and low-tech employees. I presume they all use subsidized plans, so market is destroyed.
choices went from 4 to 2, or almost 1.
Duchening is not such a big deal, Sephardim do it daily chutz laaretz
Many people who post on political issues talk the way you’d never allow yourself on a Torah topic. Just saw an article in Jewish Action from someone in OU bemoaning the same thing. If you practiced to be objective and respectful to other opinions and to facts in your Torah learning, you should be able to use his skill when talking about other things. And if you can disregard facts in political discussions, there is a chance your Torah learning is also lacking.
It is also totally useless other than therapy – most of us read or heard political opinions in other media, hearing it once again on YWN will not change anyone’s opinion.
Arguing requires two sides. So, one side may choose not to argue and concentrate on other aspects of life. See Gemoras about Rav’s wife who would cook him a wrong dish, but he ate it up.
Maybe lack of a rebbe is the problem? If one spends time learning esoteric topics, he at minimum needs close personal guidance. Sichos are not sufficient
Last time rh was on shabbos, we got vaccine developed, but we also elected Biden who couldn’t find those vaccines in the oval room. We also got people upset that the government prevented them from making each other sick. Nebach. Be careful what you daven for.
Volozhin yeshiva did not provide meals, and Russian government also. Students ate at homes. If you want to be zoche to have a yeshiva in your town, feed yeshiva students in your house once a week like in olden days. You’ll get zechus Torah edited, the anti frum comments are getting quite offensive
Qwerty, r Kamenetsky said so because shiur b Ivrit showed that the yeshiva cared about klal Yisrael, allowing Sephardim to access these classes. THAT is a pre requisite for a movement to contain a potential moshiach
From this point of view, Chabad hugely qualifies due to their great work, but at the same time disqualifies with this silly partisanship… hope both Chabad and their critics fix their own problems and compete in caring for the klal rather than in putting each other down.People half joke about buying a lottery ticket to give Hashem a kli to support a tzaddik without an open nes. Day trading is even better
You shouldn’t say that you can’t succeed, as it says: if someone says I didn’t work and succeeded, don’t believe him. Extra competitive market establishes a baseline, so if you have an extra insight, coming more from wisdom than obvious daily numbers, try small or virtually without actual trades and see if your strategy works.
Ctl, you are sitting on great information: what are typical successful people these days and decades earlier?
It is an observation errr that one needs maxwell equations to trade. Simply, at some point physics phds had no path to productive employment and wall street started exploring numerical simulations instead of classical formulae. So having Monte Carlo methods on your resume allowed these physicists to ruin economy by their ignorance of economy. You would be better off knowing a specific industry, statistics, machine learning, finance, psychology, sociology and how to daven.
At the end, this is a marginally productive activity, yes efficient markets help society, but there are many other jobs that will have positive impact on Hashem’s world 🌎
torahlife > thinking takes time.
Indeed, see “Thinking, Fast and Slow” by Nobel Reb Daniel Kahneman
Gadol, this takes to the other thread about a proper balance between nigleh and nistar.
I am asking you to add housing as you might know better what it is.
But to address your concerns directly:
1) this was discussed during Gingrich’s welfare reform: many people were better off on welfare in a short term, leading to multi-generational decline and trap. Need to look beyond today’s money to the future.2) We, as a community, do a lot of things that are not most convenient – not work a day a week, eat overpriced food, abstain from our wives for part of the month. See Beitza 25 that this is all training of our middah of savlanut. So, we could do the right thing here if we were motivated. Maybe not as perfect as other chumros, but at least some.
Did at least some of R Salanter’s students spend a lot of time on mussar rather than gemora? This illustrates a difference between mussar/middos that might precede learning and kabbala that should come later.
Frankly, in our times, nigleh gives us so much new material: interactions w/ colleges, science, psychology, medicine, medinas isroel, etc I can not see getting to nistar until I am 80, bli neder
Is day trading karov to gambling? You are either a fool or a thief, and posul miedut?
This thread is closed for Yomin Naroim and will reopen when M[o|a]shiach comes, bemeheta b’yomenu.
But let me attempt to have the last vort: R Yaakov Kamenetsky when visiting EY, suggested that Moschiach will come from R Auerbach’s yeshiva because they had their top shiurim in Ivrit instead of usual Yiddish. This psak should clarify the issue.
FollowMe,
I just googled, healthy food per person is $3K/year based on a family of 4. So, $30K for a family of 10.
healthcare say $1.5K/month =$20K
clothing $20K/year
transportation $6K /year
taxes $5K
could you add housing in your area?
seems like 100K is tight but close enough, presuming 2nd spouse is taking care of schooling and cooking.Even more seriously, Mod, and thanks for a good question – I do have more problems with people dishonoring Torah (in some aspects) comparing with people who do not know ho to read or count. We already established here that this is not my chiddush but a straight-forward Rambam who is using stronger words than me hat you would probably not allow here. That later poskim are lenient about it does not change the inner truth of this position.
RebE > Also, when one visits the sick takes away 1/60 of their pain or illness. How many people must come to take away all the illness
244 or 274
RebE > when I will be sixty and she will be thirty being now twice as old
in our days, AI algorithm in the shidduch system simply puts an appointment in the calendar for Sep 13, 2043 (because Sep 12 2043 is shabbat)
DaMoshe,
when you have an opinion that mods think is not kosher (they went to the same schools everyone else did!) – you need to find an amorah to support it. Mods rarely censor amorahs.Doctors told Netziv to take a vacation on beautiful serene Litvishe lakes (that look similar to Lakewood lakes, but with more trees). He could not take idleness though and ran away back to Volozhin after several days.
Not bad for chatGPT, is this a new release?
Usual explanation for Naase Adam in Bereshis is that Hashem is consulting melachim. Another one – that is consulting Adam and Hashem & Adam TOGETHER are participating in creating Adam (you might say Adam 1.0 creates Adam 1.1, then Adam 2.0…). This perfectly answers the question.
I would add – as our next iteration will be surely better than the current one, why not let a better man do the mitzva? One would say – why not other way around and let a better man learn? This has 2 easy answers:
1) learning will ensure next version is better
2) from the tzad of bein adam l’makom, we should let kallah have a better versionSeriously, Mod, I am not in a position to make a significant change in one person’s financial state, but I freely share any knowledge or job leads with anyone who needs it. It is generally person’s middos and attitudes that hold people behind, and I wish more Rabbis guided people like hat. I have a friend who complained about his low paying profession and asked me about direction he can take in computer programming. This was a pro-active conversation before he got married, I had hopes for him. He still complains that he has hard time paying tuition for the high school yeshiva. ..
Sact5, try to find a religious authority competent in these issues. get books by r Twersky, he writes about abuse and related topics.
One thing he says that if one spouse abuses children, and the other doesn’t protect them, then children might later have a grudge against the healthy person excusing the sick oneHe is the gadol, he knows all hidden things including yoga pants.
Surprised you askedThanks. I got scared I misunderstood the maggid. The moshal you might use is the one about someone who has answers and not questions…
And more to whether r Moshe is universally accepted:
I don’t think his psak counts in Israel;
Not that everyone respects every opinion r Moshe had.. he had respectful relationship with r Soloveitchik and I think, lubavitch Rebbe also, didn’t stop anyone from having different opinion .People feel free to disrespect r Moshe’s SIL, despite r Moshe doing the shidduch
I am not trying to question r Moshe’s stature, just trying to have a realistic picture of what statute is there in modern world
Yankel, I agree, but if a specific community doesn’t follow a posek respected by others, we can’t force them without Sanhedrin or even a city beis din… in my area, beis din consists of excellent talmidei chachamim, but they are slightly personally moderni, not in halochos, but in outlook. As far as I know, black hat community, of which rabonim are a part of, do not use this beis din …
Avira> Chasidus, much like a mussar seder, is for 30 minutes to an hour
Maybe we shouldn’t mix these together? True they historically came in response to a perceived disconnect between traditional elite learning and every person’s need to deal modernity, the actual effect is through different pathways. The first approach has the dangers we are discussing here of being swept up by esoteric concepts skipping the basics, while mussar is grounding a person with work on his middos. The only danger here is like R Naftoli Amsterdam who was dressing like a shlepper disregarding his wife’s wishes
Dennis Prager suggests that we can partner on practice with peo6who believe that M already came before. When M comes. We’ll figure it out, but we can work for common goals before that.
Maybe the same principle can apply here?Interestingly, Torah is advocating a high stake experiment to determine a navi – be right or die. At the same time, as mentioned here, same moschihists had one opinion before Rebbe was niftar and another after. Al pi reb Karl popper, a theory is a statement that can be, in thought experiment, be proven wrong. A position that can be modified to be true for any possible event is not a theory. So, this approach seems to contradict the posuk
Easy to prove that this levush is unbecoming for an Yiddishe meidele; gematria of yoga is the same as goya!
> moshol of the Dubno Maggid about the fool who used to fire the arrow first and then draw the bullseye around
I read this moshal as an explanation of his great speaking abilities@ was I wrong?! Important to know as I am borrowed this trick!
As r Zusya compared his piece of bread with a stone to Pharaoh’s, I feel how insignificant I am. If I were to establish a Yom tov for every time I was lectured by a Chabadnik who didn’t care for my opinion, I’ll be drunk the whole year!
CS, Calling books that are not from your Rebbe “outside” is unfortunate, despite all your best intentions. Maybe you need to davka learn them? The precedent is Beis Hillel that were accepted _because_ they would quote B Shammai before their own. And it goes without saying that they knew each other’s opinions as they were able to marry each other, warning of potential mamzerim that are by other opinions.
Yankel, you mean YD 242:2? And then 244 says that a hoshuve rav is like your teacher. It seems to carve exceptions when not in front of him. Also, this chosid might not have felt that he is bound by R Moshe’s psakim, but rather by his chasidus, so then the logic of YD 244 does not apply.
See also Kesubos 85b for when Tuvia might or not include Rav Tuvia.
Again, I am with you in terms of being respectful to Rabonim one disagrees. I do not like especially when this happens b’davka, ie using multiple titles for rabbis from your side and mr or dr for those one disagrees with. But I don’t think occasionally omitting titles of well known Rabbis or those who have pen names is a bog deal. For example,we say Chofetz Chaim, not Rabbi Yisroel Kagan.
Follow > If you do the math, you so find that the difference after tuition breaks,
> strictly a math equation, not a conversation on whether it is better to live off of these benefitsFirst, how can you have one without another? How can you compare feelings of someone who supports his family and then learns at the time/koach he has with someone who knows that other people work had to pay for his amenities and what he learns contradicts how he lives?
2nd, from pragmatic prospective, you might discover actual price of things and make rational decisions. For example, you can choose a yeshiva based on the values they are teaching and not the breaks they give. You may figure out that the price of camp makes no sense, and send your kids to volunteer instead. You may find out that overpriced colleges make no sense when not get fin aid and send kids to places where training v cost makes sense. So, some difficult decisions but, hopefully, good lessons for kids.
Are you as stingy with money toward people who aren’t in learning but can’t make ends meet? Your last few posts got me wondering.
Follow, it is true that you lose various discounts on taxes and tuition at higher incomes, but you still get ahead. After Trump, we lost tax credits for children and this is most annoying when filling out taxes – as if we don’t deserve a break for the kids (at least a mental one). With schools, you don’t file pleading forms disclosing your taxes and vacations, but negotiate a discount directly. If you are used to business negotiations, you can survive that too.
Follow, maybe you misunderstood the trend: there are more people going to college now, so obviously average level and benefit is lower. And yes a good plumber is better off than a history major. Still, a computer engineer is better off than a plumber… and many people, like me, do not have a talent for plumbing.
Avira > given more schar in shomayim for supporting their family than for excelling un Torah
I think I found one view on this question: someone remarked to r Salanter that if a certain student of his spent all his time on Gemora instead of mussar, he would be a world 🌎 famous talmid chacham.. Rav answered that if you have two challos, you use the one that is more beautiful, not the one that is larger.
Obviously, not everyone agrees, so this disagreement is bigger than a view on foodstamps, so worth arguingI have to admit that last parsha supports Aviras view, it says that Hashem will give us blessings so that we could sit and learn, while goyim are working for us. Well said.
Yankel, we do say Hillel and Shammai, shem is greater than Rav… I think some people feel same way towards rav Moshe?also some people here omit rav in front of names they disagree with, please police them …
I also witnessed a Rav where he had to introduce himself and a reform clergy person. So, he said: HI, I am Yankel and she is Nancy…
PS what is sh’a say about capitalizing names ofDaMoshe, I don’t disagree but you are discussing what is called first world problems… I am saying that if someone is inspired to learn torah as much as possible, he should live on bread and water in a simple apartment, not even earning enough miles.