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AviraDeArahParticipant
Gadol, if we aspire to be like a feminist who denies the torah… that’s not a madrega, that’s the opposite direction. And if that’s who you’re “aspiring” towards… where are you now and where are you headed?
Ish kefi mehalelo…a man according to his praise. From what a person praises, we see what they’re machshiv.
AviraDeArahParticipantYserb – I’m on the fence about gun laws; I don’t know what gave you the impression that I’m pro gun.
Mentsch, I’m referring to an organized reaction. By purim, the reaction was not to form an army and fight, it was to daven and do teshuva – and it worked.
Chanukah, when protecting Torah, our job is to fight first.
Putting up some sort of self defense when attacked directly is a different story. No need to lay down and be killed unless we’re talking about kidush Hashem.
The warsaw uprising was discouraged by gedolim because it caused more harm, ending in the deaths of everyone instead of there being some survivors, for instance.
AviraDeArahParticipantIsrael doesn’t constitute “we”. They put us in a mess where many of us live in an area of danger.
Rebbe akiva didn’t carry arms with him, neither did rabban yochanan ben zakai. As you said, rebbe akiva thought bar kochva was moshiach, in which case we’re supposed to fight.
Yaakov met eisav not in times of galus, but was machniah himself anyway to avoid fighting. He preferred the jewish approach of bribery and flattery; something haughty zionists are repulsed by.
The chashmonaim fought to preserve Torah. Ever wonder why the jews didn’t fight during purim until given permission? It’s because in galus we don’t fight goyim if there’s a gezerah against us physically.
AviraDeArahParticipantI love how some people can lump a tzadekes of a rebbetzin who due to being raised among gedolim picked up quite a bit of knowledge, with a feminist conservative “rabbit” who denies torah misinai and flouts halacha.
Actually, I don’t love it. Sheker sonaysi ve’esaeivah.
AviraDeArahParticipantYserb, you’re severely misinformed. Sefardim did not use electricity on shabbos, especially not the ben ish chai. Some of their poskim misunderstood how electricity works (as did some of ashkenazi gedolim) and permitted it on yom tov because of aish m’aish, which the aruch hashulchan had suggested.
AviraDeArahParticipantRav moshe allowed a hearing aid to be worn on shabbos because it isn’t noticeably zilzul shabbos, which he held was a problem. He held that the other issurim involved weren’t clear, and that while they’re enough to asser in general, for a choleh we can be lenient.
AviraDeArahParticipantWhy are you asking from cheit ha’egel? Klal yisroel left mitzrayim armed, chamushim, according to rashi.
The way a jew behaves in galus is very different from how klal yisroel was structured in the midbar and eretz yisroel.
The tanaim and amoraim were not armed. Neither were the rishonim or achronim.
AviraDeArahParticipantIs she “marbitz torah” when she says that women count in a minyan?
AviraDeArahParticipantIt’s not my pshat, it’s just shulchan aruch. Amira leakum is mutar when it’s a derabonon for a mitzvah, including necessities of shabbos like having the air conditioner on, or turning off lights to be able to sleep.
Amira leakum is mutar for deraysos for a choleh, even if not in life danger.
AviraDeArahParticipantOwning something very dangerous is problematic in halacha. That includes biting dogs, and other mazikim. Gun owners all too often are shot by their own weapons; kids get to them, etc.
A good argument can be made to forbid gun ownership. Permitting it also has a strong basis.
Either way it’s not the way of klal yisroel.
AviraDeArahParticipantA prutah is half of a piece of barley’s amount of silver
June 1, 2022 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm in reply to: Slavery — The Torah True Way (with Reb HaLeiVi) #2093487AviraDeArahParticipantThere definitely were frum slave owners. I’ve seen gittin that they wrote when slavery became illegal.
AviraDeArahParticipantDouble derabonons, called shvus dshvus, like asking a goy to do a derabonon, is mutar in most cases for a mitzvah.
Chas veshalom to say that all derabonons are mutar for mitzvos. They’re not. One can never be mechalel shabbos derabonon, not for mitzvos, not for loss of money, not for anything short of pikuach nefesh.
AviraDeArahParticipantYabia, I’m pretty sure kavanah isn’t required when saying pesukim with Hashem’s name. I will imyh look into it.
AviraDeArahParticipantUbiq – the discussion here was to interrupt set times that yeahivos learn to honor soldiers. That’s bitul Torah of tinokos shel beis rabban, which we do not do even to build the beis hamikdash.
The general rule is that we do not interrupt learning unless it is for a mitzvah that cannot be done by someone else
But if there’s a mitzvah that can be done by someone else (someone asks for a ride), then we don’t.Many achronim say that when it’s bitul Torah derabim, that is, interrupting learning of many people, we don’t interrupt at all.
The above comments regarding the supposed importance of non-learning activities are irrelevant, and are only indicative of how necessary it is TO learn, so one does not misrepresent halacha in the way the posters here are. It’s ignorance, as these halachos are not hard to find. Perhaps if these posters ever had the geshmak of learning a ketzos or a reb chaim(not hearing about it in a digestible shiur, actually going through it yourself) they wouldn’t talk about learning that way.
AviraDeArahParticipantAnon – we’re talking about taking time off of a seder.
AviraDeArahParticipantChug – show hakaras hatov by greeting soldiers when you see them(or police, who also put themselves at risk for our well being). Most of the time when i pass by a police officer, or when i see army soldiers (happened a few times) i give them a “thank you”
It doesn’t mean we need to be mevatel torah. We’re not even mevatel torah in chedorim for building the beis hamikdash.
AviraDeArahParticipantYabia – referencing Hashem isn’t always in the context of shiros and praises. Many times it’s a statement, like saying “Hashem runs the world”. Also, when saying zemiros, many don’t say any of Hashem’s names because al pi halacha you have to have kavanah when you say it.
Was this teshuva trying to justify what chilonim do in Israel, where elokim just is used instead of “God”? Sounds like it was. It doesn’t hold water.
AviraDeArahParticipantLet’s close the yeshivos for Martin Luther King day, father’s day, mothers day, black history month… Let’s just close them altogether…
AviraDeArahParticipantHalevi, it’s been discussed here before. It’s the highest madrega rhat an aino yehudi can hope for, as they keep mitzvos. It’s also a klalah representing ratzon Hashem for certain people who are uncontrollable and violent otherwise.
AviraDeArahParticipantThe “in your face” flag waving is far more incendiary, obviously, but arabs do not really know the difference between a 10th generation yerushalmi who couldn’t care less if the arabs ran eretz yisroel, and a zionist who believes that ben gurion is the Messiah.
AviraDeArahParticipantUjm, walking around arabs with yarnulkes on can incite violence too.. But only because the Zionists convinced them that they represent all jews, so a recognizable Jew is automatically a zionist, and thus their enemy.
AviraDeArahParticipantBesalel – “yisroel is a sheep among 70 wolves”
A smart sheep bows to the wolves, and doesn’t die for pride.
AviraDeArahParticipantWe died a lot less when we behaved that way. Millions less.
AviraDeArahParticipantHuju – truly immoral; very stupid to quote halacha sources regarding a question of monetary law. How sad that issues of morality are…decided by… Hashem… disgusting, truly so.
Yes this was a troll thread, but it was also an interesting question. The point of the trolling is to trigger copy/paste goyishe responses like yours.
AviraDeArahParticipantI guess when Avrohom owned (literally, owned) Eliezer, it was stupid, immoral, and disgusting. No?
AviraDeArahParticipantTurns out a simple google search reveals that slaveowners received compensation for their loss of property after all..around 300 for each (which was a lot back then, obviously)
AviraDeArahParticipantIt could also be argued that the slaves lost all resale value once slavery was ended, since they couldn’t be sold anymore. The government has no chiyuv to allow the sale of a given item. The government then, was only mafsid them the value of the work they would have performed for the master, which is a grama….lechora.
AviraDeArahParticipantThere’s a machlokes if goyim can have a kinyan in other goyim as avadim; the government would have a “kim li” on those shitos, to retain their status as muchzak. You can’t be motzi mamon from them to the descendants of slave owners. Also, the slave owners didn’t expect reasonably to be reimbursed, so they were mochel even on the tzad that they’re entitled to it.
As was pointed out, melech poretz geder applies here – the government can take what it wants, when it wants, and doesn’t even have to reimburse you (according to manu shitos)
AviraDeArahParticipantThe government can and does make the sale of given products illegal; certain firearms, drugs, bombs, etc..zachin vos zennen a sach besser vi yenom…
AviraDeArahParticipantI’m a litvak, I’ve learned about keser a little.. No need for a bochur to know how sefiros are counted
May 27, 2022 8:25 am at 8:25 am in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091649AviraDeArahParticipantAAQ, it’s not outside my kevutzah; chabad are the only Jews who think there’s value in getting random frei people to put tefilin on once, and that this brings the geulah.
May 27, 2022 12:38 am at 12:38 am in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091640AviraDeArahParticipantWe’re not talking about chelek eloka mimaal – that’s a concept that’s discussed everywhere in any machshava sefer that’s after kabalas ha’ari.
Nice try. A piece of godliness placed in a Jewis not the same as saying that specifically a rebbe is the essence of god. Actually, the tanya says there משיח’ שהם בחי’ עקביים ממש לגבי המוח והראש וכן בכל דור ודור יש ראשי אלפי ישראל שנשמותיהם הם בחי’ ראש ומוח לגבי נשמות (that may not have pasted well), that EVERY jew has the chelek eloka, from the avos down to the amhaaratzim; he explains how every part of klal yisroel is compared to higher and lower parts of the body.
The exact opposite of the lubavitcher rebbe’s claim that a tzadik has a special godliness when compared to someone else.
Neither says that you can daven at the graves of a tzadik because a tzadik is the essence of god wrapped in a body.
May 26, 2022 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091593AviraDeArahParticipantIt says kgon daniel, which means it will be someone analogous to him. That gemara is also not brought in ANY of the rishonim’s descriptions of moshiach, including the ramban maamar al hageulah
May 26, 2022 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091583AviraDeArahParticipantNom – no, please enlighten us where in any hebrew book, even from someone off like the meor aynayim, is there a statement that a tzadik is the essence of god wrapped in a body.
It’s not in tanya. It’s not in the nefesh hachaim.
You can clearly find it in the notes from the council of nicea.
May 26, 2022 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091523AviraDeArahParticipantTs, when referencing rav Shraga feivel i was not speaking to you, but rather to nomesorah’s claim that the lubavitcher rebbe swooped in to save everyone in the yeshiva world.
Torah vodaas had 2 roshei yeshiva who were chabad affiliated; rav Quinn, and rav kahaneh. Rav Quinn distanced himself from the last lubavitcher rebbe when he took over. He kept chabad minhagim, but did not approve of him.
Rav pam originally said that rav shach’s vocal opposition was for bnei eretz yisroel and that we shouldn’t mix in. Rav pam was extremely against machlokes, as is known. Towards the end of his life, when deviances became more known, he distanced himself too.
Re, going to farbrengins; he drew people from all sorts of backgrounds, including those of which who were opposed to him. Lots of people were inspired by him and he didn’t go around saying the kinds of things that are being discussed here – had he done so, he not only would not have attracted outsiders, but would have lost most of his constituents as well.
There were and are many geniuses who are adept at learning and have photographic memories; they’re not all gedolei torah.
May 26, 2022 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091513AviraDeArahParticipantSource = chabad.org
May 26, 2022 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091514AviraDeArahParticipantI appreciate your tone – I don’t mean to be disrespectful or hostile either. I am sharing my experiences and knowledge of what gedolim said and what i am aware of to be popular notions in chabad, both based on the lubavitcher rebbe’s leadership and otherwise.
May 26, 2022 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091463AviraDeArahParticipantIf you want to know what talmidim of rav aharon say about the lubavitcher rebbe… Lakewood is probably the most anti -chabad community in the northeast.
May 26, 2022 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm in reply to: Should we try to encourage Mashichists and Elokists to return to the fold? #2091462AviraDeArahParticipantTs – BTs have had “aha” watershed moments from all sorts of things. I know a guy who was inspired by a pastor, another guy who was drawn in by a reform rabbi with hair down to his navel.
I’m sure many, many people had a moment with the tefilin. But the majority, overwhelming majority, take a selfie and never think about it again
And they don’t get credit or olam haba for it either, because they have no knowledge of the mitzvah, metzaveh, or even what the tefilin are. Not to mention half of the time it’s in full view of immodestly dressed women.
Nomesorah; now I’m convinced you are or were chabad. Only in chabad do they teach these fairy tales about how the lubavitcher rebbe saved the entire world. What did he do to keep chaim berlin lr other yeshivos open?
Rav shraga feivel mendelowitz saved a lot of yeshivos, including ner yisroel, but i bet you’ve never even heard of him. Rav aharon was opposed to the lubavitcher rebbe. My rebbe rav belsky said he was not a gadol in learning. I have no idea where these fables originated.
Many people went to him. Some satmar chasidim would “double dip”, even though the satmar rov called him a “meshuganeh”.
Many people in yeshivos went to JTS too. Really doesn’t mean anything.
AviraDeArahParticipantDifferent cheshbonos, but you’re not allowed to expose tefilin to ervah; that’s a halacha
AviraDeArahParticipantReal; some tips:
Don’t try to prove their obsession (s) wrong
Don’t say ‘calm down’
Don’t say ‘what, are you worried about crossing the street too?”If you’re able to be a listening ear, go for it. If you’re not, then politely say that you wish you knew what to say and how to help, but that you don’t know, but that you respect them and don’t think any less of them because of their condition
AviraDeArahParticipantYep…in full view of pritzus, put on the heads and arms of people who don’t know or believe in the mitzvah to begin with
AviraDeArahParticipantUjm, by chasidim all of them wear beketishes. An example by them would be wearing peltz
AviraDeArahParticipantLashenhora, we don’t say safek deoraysoh lechumra all over – we have a drashah by mamzer that safek mamzer is mutar. Safek arlah bechhtz laaeretz is another example.
AviraDeArahParticipantUjm – Kidushin 73, ודאי ממזר הוא דלא יבוא, הא ספק –
יבואAviraDeArahParticipantLubavitch always has had beautiful nigunim.
AviraDeArahParticipantTa, there’s zero reason to assume that there are aliens – no much more reason than to assume that there’s a pink banana shaped flying monkey whk can breathe fire and fly faster than the speed pf sound.
…. but what if there is? It can be said about any made up nonsense.
AviraDeArahParticipantRevealing what then? If not Hashem’s will, why is it consequential? That He exists? Avrohom learned that without revelation.
AviraDeArahParticipantUjm, it’s mechzi k’yuhara to wear the clothing of a rosh yeshiva. It’s like the glima that the sefardi rabbonim wear.
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