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@Health
Objection
Asked and answered
OVERRULEDHealth is ordered to sop badgering the witness.
You realized after I answered that the question you asked is not the one you wanted answered…that’s how novices lose cases. 40 years in I don’t fall for those traps. I;ve moved on to the next case
“nOmesorah -“He thoroughly answered your question”
He did NOT!
Here it is again -“who ordered The First Combat troops to Nam?!?”
Do you have a problem with English Comprehension?”You have a problem with honesty. You hadn’t asked that question in the post I answered, n)mesorah validated that I answered your question. nOmesorah has excellent English Comprehension.
I don;t read minds, I can only answer what appears in a post, not in your mind,
@Health
How could I answer a question you hadn’t asked.
When you posted finding fault with my answer, you posted a different question than the post I replied to; the word FIRST was not in the original question.You don;t get a second bite at the apple
@Joseph
I don’t know if my aunt was cogisant of the underlying land lease, as she hadn’t bought the property, her parents did. It was left to a family trust. She occupied it at no cost, only paying expenses. She felt $500 additional land rent on top of common fees was more than it was worth, especially since she could not get a land lease longer than 2 years@ZSK
You are correct that privately owned land is very hard to get a hold of unless you have a lot of money. We sold that house and land acquired by a relative in January 2020. I bought it from the relative in the 1990s. The purchaser paid us a lot of money, but wanted to own not lease land so it could be there for his children, grandchildren, etc.I hate land leases. In 1970 my grandparents bought a condo in Florida with a 50 year land lease. They figured they were in their 80s and would not be around 50 years, so who cares. An aunt of mine has occupied it since her retirement. This year she got a notice that the land lease was up. The successors to the condo developers, now want an additional $500 month land rental and will only give two year leases. The market value has plunges. She has no investment in it as it sits in a family trust.
She is buying a new condo with no underlying land lease and the trust will sell the condo for peanuts.I would not consider buying a home with a land lease. B”H I don’t have to.
@ZSK
again, Overwhelming Majority is NOT the same as ALLThe home and land we own is ours and not a land lease. The house and land we sold was not a land lease. We pay heavy taxes each year on the land and improvements and the family has done so for decades.
Again, usually, does not mean always
@ZSK
NOT everything is owned by the JNF/KKL
Please stop posting misinformation.
Some of us own homes/land that was purchased during the British Mandate.
We recently sold a house and 5 dunams of land in Ramat HaSharon that were purchased by a relative in 1946 from an Arab seller who wanted to move to the more Arab City of Yafo.
We own and the family uses a house and land it sits on in Herzylia Pituach puchased in the early 1980s.Maybe most new development is on JNF/KKL land with land leases, but resales of privately owned land exist…they are not cheap
Health
BOTH….Johnson and Nixon were in charge during the Viet Nam War. Both were Commander in Chief and ordered combat troops to IndoChina
Nice Try…………………………………………VBG.
Parties change over time. The Dems of the 1850s and 60s were pro Slavery, In 1964 they paased the Civil Rights ActBefore Reagan and the Immoral Majority and phony evangelicals, there were many fine LIBERAL Republicans, such as Rockefeller and Keating.
@DovidBT
Yes I remember that chant, along with H*ll No, I won’t go and burning draft cards.
My favorite anti-war lapel button that I wore for years read:
“War is good business, invest your son”@Joseph
Pell grants came about in the Higher Education Act of 1972, after the SDS (and similar) sit-ins, takeovers of colleges.
Pell grants are made to students, not the colleges, so it can’t be tied to allowing ROTC on campus. Other forms of Federal Aid and Grants to the institutions have been tied to allowing ROTC on campus, but at a later date than this anti-Viet Nam War unrest (Might have been First Gulf War, but I’m not sure and not interested enough to research it).ROTC has/had no right to be on any private campus, they had to seek permission from the institution.
I never prevented anyone from associating with them or job recruiters. I mentioned reason for campus dissent and disruption.I didn’t discuss draft dodgers. You are accusing me of things that aren’t in my posts.
As for that piece of garbage Daley. He not only ordered havoc on the streets, but prevented free movement of delegates and registered attendees (such as myself..too young to be a delegate) within the convention hall.
Go attack someone who has actually posted what you pretend I did, I’m through wasting time ansering your false accusations.
@AnomymousJew
It’s been years since Mrs. CTL and I had yeshiva tuition bills for our kids, BUT Mrs. CTL always worked. She was a builder/Realtor/designer for 35 years. Her office was attached to our home (just as I have a professional office attached with a client entrance.
All of our daughters and daughters-in-law work, albeit most in the family law firm
All of our grand children and my siblings’ grandchildren summer here in the compound. Two couples (our children, nieces and nephews and spouses) are in residence each week to lend a hand in supervision.
We’ve done most of the improvements and facilities buildings ourselves over the years, This spring we dug and added a trampoline pit. It is far cheaper than summer camp and much safer on many respects. Great family bonding time as well.It’s not about how much money you have, but making what money you have go the furthest. We could be house poor in Brooklyn or have a compound in Southern CT for less money. We chose small town living within an easy drive of NYC.
@Anomymous
I have no idea what you are talking about…………………
I never mentioned Bush or Draft Dodging or teacher deferments from the draft.The major reason I remember campus takeovers or demonstrations was to:
A. Get rid of ROTC and/or military Recruitment on campus
B. Stop research that aided the munitions/chemical industry
C. Protest the draft when IIS deferments endedBTW>>>I wasn’t going if my number was called. I would have left the USA
NO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it is NOT obvious that the OP was specifically talking about Race Riots that followed the assassination of MLK. In fact the OP NEVER used the term Race Riots. He used the term UNREST.
I remember the Watts Riots (saw coverage in LOOK, Life and Time magazines) I attended my first anti-Viet Nam War protest in 1967.
I was at The 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago and experienced the terror of the Riots…Thank you Mayor Daley. Heroes of the Chicago Eight included Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale (also tried in New Haven 1970 Black Panthers).
So, what may be obvious to you is not to me. I had far more political exposure in the 60s than you did (so it appears).
Not Borsalino, but I wear a Navy Blue straw hat with my navy blue summer suits. I have posted before that I don;t wear black suits…many years ago a Superior Court judge told me that Black was for the judges, lawyers should wear other colors (Navy, Charcoal, Dark Brown).
@Health
The OP never mentions the killing of MLK in 1968
There were Race Riots in the 1960s that predated this, such as Watts (LA) 1965.
Race riots didn’t end in 1969.@nOmesorah
@Health
I was a teen in the 1960s, I participated in the race protest during the Black Panthers Trial in New Haven n 1970
I was profoundly affected by the Kent State Massacre by the Ohio National Guard. That Jewish kid lying dead in the street with the young lady kneeling over him (that won a Pulitzer Prize) was my 3rd Cousin Jeffrey Miller. No you can;t identify me from this because the connections wre all on mothers’ sides for several generations.That said: There were MANY Race Riots in the USA in the 1970s, to name only a few:
Asbury Park, NJ Race Riots July, 1970
Camden, NY Race Riots 1971
Escambia HS Riots Pensacola, FL 1972-1976
Boston, MA Busing Race Riots throughout the year 1974
Boston Busing Riot April 1976
Humboldt Park, Chicago June 1976And these don;t include riots such as Attica Prison Sept 1971 that was very much a race riot as well as a prison uprising.
@Joseph
There is no requirement that she wear a face mask in the compound. It is considered a private residence. Even out of doors people residing in the same household do not require face masks. It is only upon entering private businesses or public buildings or outside when meeting people on the street, trails parks who do not reside in your household that a mask is required.
So, as soon as she gets here and is unpacked (last year’s room and bed await her) she is free to enjoy her summer without a mask. All the joys of camp without the bugs, plus air conditioned comfort, no uniforms, no tipping and no bill for you and Mrs. J.
BTW, we dug a trampoline pit beyond the tennis court as a surprise for our grandchildren and will open it on Sunday July 5th…I think your daughter will love practicing her gymnastic routines on it. Mrs CTL wants to know if you and the rest of the family want to come for a week or two in August. We have acquired the house behind us with its furniture from the neighbor’s estate and won’t start total renovation until October.I agree with you 100%
The lawsuits are a feel good PR move by Agudah. So they can say we tried and failed. The decision is within the executive powers of the Governor.
The CT overnight camps are closed as well this summer.That said your daughter wants to know when she can arrive at the compound for the summer? Our granddaughters miss her. The pool is open (with heater on), the first vegetables of the season are ready to be picked and eaten, the nets are up for tennis and volleyball and a second basketball half-court is in for the younger ones.
With everyone working from home since March 12, my sons, sons-in-law and older grandsons have been a captive labor source for improvements and expansion of the compound.We follow the law and Executive orders issued by our Governor in CT. #7TT
At this point a shul can only be at 25% of capacity or a MAXIMUM of 100, whichever number is smaller.
Outside gatherings have a maximum of 150 people.Our shul has 300 seats, so a maximum of 75 people could be at Yomim Noraim services.
Thus, our BOD met and announced that no tickets will be sold or made available to non-members this year (including relatives of members).
All members must let the shul know by August 13 if they intend to use a ticket/seat this year.
A shul cannot hold additional services in the social hall, Beis Medrash, auditorium, etc. They are considered one place as they attendees may use a common lobby, coat rooms, rest rooms, etc.If There is proven to be more need by the August reply deadline, the local firehouse closest to the shul has offered their hall at no charge for our use.
We will hold our own services at the CTL compound, setting up outdoors under a canopy with a wooden floor. We expect to be about below the 150 outdoor limit, and can accommodate some of the shul’s overflow if need be. The health department has ruled that we may not use tents with walls as then it would constitute an indoor space with the lower capacity limitations.
Again, all can change as restrictions ease up, but shuls have to make decisions by a date certain. Unlike the articles we read in YWN about shuls and yeahivos ignoring the laws/regulations, we’ll follow them
Back in the 60s I was a member pf our shul’s Boy Scout Troop. We were taught to leave this place as if you had never been there. No changes to nature, no garbage, no destruction.
The old adage we were taught in 3rd grade by our reading teacher:
LET NO ONE SAY TO YOUR SHAME,
THAT ALL WAS BEAUTY UNTIL YOU CAME…………………..Sums it up perfectly
@som1
Unlike you, I am not glued to my computer all day lurking in the CR. I worked today preparing for a child custody hearing to be held via Zoom tomorrow.I suggest you google CT Annual Racial Profiling Report and see the results of the 98 municipalities for 2019.
I WON’T identify a specific policy by name, number or statute, because that would help you locate the town I live in. There are 169 towns in CT, you can narrow it down by the fact I have stated over the years that I live in Fairfield County. That is as much personal information that I choose to share.
When you google you will find an interesting article in the CT Post newspaper (covers Bridgeport and area) about the 2019 study and it names municipalities still racial profiling, especially at dusk.
@Shady
The finding of racial profiling and stops for Driving while black was found by the CT courts to be systemic racist policy of the police department in many towns (including my own). It is not my anecdotal observation. The departments were fined, ordered to institute new policies, Required to retrain officers and to wear and use body cams.
A number of top brass were forced to resign or take early retirement because they had instituted this racist profiling as part of department procedure.The madness of the 60s slowed down as:
Civil Rights laws started to be enforced
Public School integration (busing) went into effect
Housing discrimination laws were written and enforced
Redlining by banks was stopped
Equal opportunity protection in hiring and college admissions
ERA became part of some state Constitutions (including NY and CT)
Voting age and national drinking age lowered to 18
The Viet Nam War ended in the mid 70s and minorities ceased to be conscripted and used as cannon fodder, while the wealthy such as President Bone Spurs could buy their way out by paying a friendly doctor.Outside NYC, white flight brought Jews to the suburbs. Unlike the 1920s and 30s, now their money was welcome by home sellers
The protests of the 60s and 70s were not anti-government as they are now. By and large they were anti-war/draft, pro civil and equal rights for females, pro-abortion and birth control. These laws changed and the country moved on. Now the media exposes every bad action of a cop and the people react. Far different than when there was 15 minutes of national news on TV at 7PM. The first anti-Viet Nam War demonstration I attended in New Haven was largely white middle class people who were horrified by the body bags and nightly death toll being shown on the supper hour news,
There was no general fear that the USA would not continue. Now there are calls to remove the President and his cronies by force. I don;t believe it will occur. I think he will be removed at the ballot box.@som1
You post has nothing to do with the topic of this thread: :”Are Law abiding minorities affected by police racism?”This white, Jewish lawyer has had black clients as long as I’ve been in practice. If the client has enough money to warrant, a trust, adoption, divorce, guardianship, child custody or any other part of our practice, then the only color that matters is GREEN…can they afford our fees? We are a for profit law firm. We do XXX hours of pro bono work per year, usually child custody or parental rights cases as assigned by our local Probate Judge. In a mostly white community, most clients are white.
We do not practice criminal law or personal injury or medical malpractice or landlord/tenant/housing cases.
Unlike NY, CT does not have District Attorneys. We have States Attorneys who prosecute cases. They are NOT elected (like a DA in NY) and don’t get to choose to take cases involving minority defendants. If a States attorney is assigned to a specific courthouse, the senior States Attorney and clerk assign most cases based on workload availability. The exception are major felonies which go to the most experienced trial attorneys in the office. Every few years the states attorneys are rotated geographically. So after spending three years in a city court with majority of minority defendants, they may find themselves in a rural court that almost never sees a minority defendant,
Also, different is that we do not have a Grand Jury system to issue indictments in CT. The police make their case to the states attorney, and he/she decides charges and whether to prosecute.ABSOLUTELY……………………..law abiding minorities are affected by police racism
I live in small town CT. It is 85% white.
Our cops are notorious for stopping black drivers who cross the town line. Usual excuse…’you have a tail light out. They humiliate the driver, pulled to the side of the road for all to see, call in two additional patrol cars. After running the license plate and drivers license and finding no wants and warrants, they say, your tail light is working now, but wasn’t before. You need to have it checks by a repair facility.The actual truth: The driver was stopped for DWB. DRIVING WHILE BLACK
A few years ago our town was cited (along with many others} for this racial profiling.
My wife grew up here. She told me there were only three black families in town when she was growing up. I listened to a 55 year old member of one of those families at a recent symposium on out police racism. He is a Yale graduate and a local physician. When he was growing up, police would stop him all the time, asking why he was in the area. His father was followed home by a patrol car one night right into their driveway. The cop pulled a gun and wanted to know what right dad had to be on private property in town. The father replied, I own this house and live here.
Because the requirement to be a police officer are so low, it often attracts gun happy, racist red necks. All you need is to be 18 years old, have a high school diploma or GED, pass the easy entrance exam and then 16 weeks at the state police academy. Many positions go vacant and towns desperately hire any who apply and pass the background checks of no felonies or major misdemeanor convictions.Untold amounts of money has been paid out by area police departments who have lost race discrimination lawsuits.
BTW>>>Driving While Hispanic is almost as dangerous
@Anonymous
Not all Blacks are in NYC schools, most aren’t and the UFT has nothing to do with their education.
Our little town is 15% Black and the role models mentioned above by me are all taught in US History and Current events classes. NOT ALL BLACKS LIVE IN INNER CITIES1
That is a question better asked of African Americans than a bunch of White JewsMost of us have no idea who most African Americans consider role models…………………
But you glaringly left out
Barak and Michelle Obama
Martin Luther and Coretta Scott King Jr.
Langston Hughes
Booker T Washington
George Washington Carver
Harriet Tubman
and the list goes on and on@ChaimShulem
There is a rebirth of frum Jewry in a couple of CT mill towns that had Orthodox synagogues and days schools dating back 100+ years, but when industry left so did most Jews.
You may want to consider looking at Waterbury (Mikvah, shuls, yeshiva, food) or the neighboring town of Naugatuck that just established a yeshiva and shul.
Housing is not expensive, Brooklyn less than 2 hours by car and it is on the Metro North RR of you commute to work in Manhattan.Just a consideration, not pushing it, but these are often overlooked
@AviK
uNo ticket, no shirt was the refrain at the laundry. One could not retrieve their clean items without the ticket issued when left off. Back in the day, the laundry was often operated by an immigrant who did not read or write English and needed the numbered ticket t match with the other half attached tio the clean items.Amil’s post was about entry and being waited upon in retail and food service establishments (see my reply above).
@AmilZola
Not only have I heard/seen “no shoes, no short, no service,” but had those signs posted at my retail stores in the vicinity of Candlewood Lake more than 40 years ago. Summer visitors from NY thought it was just fine to enter wearing only a pair of shorts of a bathing suit between Memorial Day and Labor Day. This was unacceptable and signs were posted at the entrries.@AviK
Your post was specifically addressed to me with the instruction to ‘go to the mall….:@AviK
I have far better things to do with my time (even answering your nonsense) than to drive to the mall a few times a day and receive a free paper mask and then to attempt to sell them and ship them via Amazon.If you had been reading my posts MRS CTL and I brought in huge supplies from China through our longstanding friendships and DONATED them to our local EMS and police and hospital.
As recently as last Wednesday another 20,000 surgical masks, KN95 and face shields arrived and have been distributed. I would not be profiteering during a Pandemic (or any other time)…..not my style.You at times seem quite intelligent, why would an experienced attorney who bills at an hourly rate in the hundreds of dollars chase nickels?
@Joseph
actually they could have danced with each other, but when we made the arrangements the limit on attendees/staff was 49 people so we did not engage musicians or a DJ. One of the Kallah’s brother played his clarinet after the Bedecken and proceeding to the chuoah and a few tunes afterwards.It was tough ti pull off the changes as the Governor’s relaxed Executive was issued on Shavuos. I read it in the local paper which is delivered to our front door each morning, but we could not call or text or email anyone not staying in the compound until Motzei Shabbos. It required an immediate yes or no response so we could go to the next person in the list.
I got to work on the additional food and beverages. A few of our close by non-Jewish neighbors volunteered to schlep and help set up and break down the chairs, tables, etc. and help serve the meal.
Because we have a vine covered 12×20 pergola the Chupah was in place and covered with flowers in bloom.I think the family and close friends were so relieved to have such a simcha and be out of confinement that the dancing was not missed. So many of the relatives had not seen each other in months that much time was spent visiting, without the usual problem of not being able to hold a conversation because of the too loud music in a wedding hall
UTTER NONSENSE
The Polish Partisans
The French Resistance
The German Underground
The AMERICAN ARMYthese were the true ANTIFA…………….
B”H my grandson was married in the CTL compound gardens last evening. Two days prior CT Governor Lamont raised the limits on outdoor ‘religious, spiritual and social gatherings’ to 150 people.
No dancing was possible due to the six foot social distancing requirements among non-immediate family members. We were able to take family photographs of the Chosson with his immediate family, the Kallah with hers and the Chosson/Kallah together after the Chupah.Since the gathering limit was lifted with little notice only those family members and closest friends within driving distance attended.
There was no way to ramp up the catering order with no notice, so Zaidy raided his freezers and put the BBQ pits and smokers into high gear.
A good time was had by all……….Mazel Tov@Doing my best………
BUT that is not what you posted. You can’t expect CR participants to be mind readers..That said I doubt the courts would consider it trespassing. The call for shoppers is a general invitation to the public and a storekeeper can refuse service or entry to an individual. BUT, it would require personal notification by the store personnel to the individual. It is too easy for the non-mask wearing shopper to say: “I didn’t see or read the sign” or “I don’t read (Pick a language).
An unlocked store with posted hours, lights on and a sign over the storefront (as well as advertising) create the general invitation to the public. The entry is not trespassing, but non-compliance with the posted rule is reason to ask the person to leave.@Doingmybest
It would help if you knew the definition of trespassing
The classical definition is to go onto or enter another’s property without permission. This includes leased premises.A potential customer of a retail or hospitality or service establishment, is in fact an invitee. The business exists to provide something in exchange for the visitor’s money. Even one who enters to browse is a potential customer so is also an invitee.
Thus an invitee is not a trespasser.That invitee may be refused service or asked to leave if not wearing a mask, but that does not make the entry a trespass.
Our local mall opened fro business on May 20. CT requires those entering businesses and shop to wear masks. There are security guards at the entrances checking masks, enforcing occupancy limits and social distancing. An invitee attempting entree without a mask is give one free of charge by the mall. This encourages business by not turning the potential customer away.
@Bocher Bully
My objection to your statement is the word WE, you don’t speak for the members/users of the Coffee Room.
I write about a frum man who tested positive Motzei Shabbos who didn’t use Hatzala. Today I received news that a friend in Kew Garden Hills was taken to the hospital Monday with COVID-19…Is Queens in the spehere of your self imposed ghetto?Speak for your self, you don’t have permission to speak for the rest of us. I object and if even only one CR member/user objects you can’t say we.
NO, I don’t work for the media, I own my own firm. I work to support my family
@Bocher
I don;t care what you believe. I am not a trained lawyer. I am an adult with a Juris Doctor Degree who has passed and belongs to the MA, CT, NY and FL bars.What I post here in the CR are not legal arguments, this is not a court of law and many here hold more with halacha than the laws of civil government.
That said, the people who are important to believe in my legal acumen are my clients who pay those large legal fees that enable me to support my family, provide employment to others, be a baal tzedaka and giove back to the greater community. The opinion of some bocher in a little southern NJ town is not very important. I don’t practice law in NJ and expect I never will.
Your comment is laughable, because you state the “only frum people we know” and I, a member of the CR gave an example of a known frum person who recently was hospitalized with Covid-19.
So, young man, still wet behind the ears, speak for yourself, not for the whole group which includes me.
Bocher………………………..
You are a child with limited experience and horizons.Not all of the world’s frum community lives where Hatzala operates.
There are frum people who have recently contracted Covid-19 and are hospitalized. My nephew’s Father in-law is one. BUT he lives in southern Florida and the county EMS transported him to the hospital. He was hospitalized Motzei Shabbos, but is stable and on oxygen, but not a ventilator.Here we have a bachur sitting home since Pesach……………………………………………………
Am I missing something???
In most of the Jewish world the bachurim were sitting home since Pesach because the Yeshivos have been closed down because of COVID-19.Even colleges that are on Trimester or quarterly system weren’t accepting new students this spring and Summer sessions are on line if being held at all.
My grandchildren have been here since the wee of March 12th and we have no idea when their assorted Yeshivos will restart. Each state will have different rules
@Chaim Schulem
I live in small town Connecticut, having been brought up in New Haven which was a large city for CT.
There are no kosher restaurants within a 30 minute drive, no local kosher prepared food or butcher (those days are gone), no local independent kosher bakery, as opposed to the bakeries in the regular supermarkets under KVH supervision,We buy our kosher provisions in bulk, cook from scratch (our choice). I have eaten in the Dtamford Kosher restaurants only when it is for a meeting. We are 60 minutes from Manhattan, 90 to Queens or Brooklyn. Close enough, but far enough away.
Growing up, New Haven had 12 kosher bakeries and more than 20 kosher butchers, 6 kosher delis and a couple of dairy restaurants. BUT we still cooked at home. We didn’t do takeout and it wasn’t a matter of cost. Just not our style. We have a vegetable patch and a smokehouse. I love to pickle what we grow as well as smoke meats.
This lifestyle is not for everyone, BUT like Amil Zola I have been involved in local government and school boards for a long time. Some of us like living in a mixed community. It didn’t harm my children’s marriage choices, nor my grandchildren….first grandson is getting married IYH soon as=after Shavous and due to COVID 19 it is happening in our gardens.I’m not in NY, so the state ruling doesn’t affect me/
B”H, with all the grandchildren, great nieces and nephews here in the CTL compound since about March 12th, we’ve has a Minyan every day.Once they are open will I return to my shul minyan? Probably not until after the summer when and if the children return to school/yeshivos. I won’t chance picking something up and bringing it home to my family. I also wouldn’t want to take up a space that someone saying kaddish might use.
Personally, I don;t think most shuls have the money or manpower to properly disinfect, change air handling and filters, etc to proper;y insure our safety. I’ll sit it out a home for quite a while longer
Vaccines mutate? really
I believe you meant viruses mutateCT’s Governor has announced that NO overnight Camps may operate in Connecticut this summer.
No day camp that was not already in operation by May 5 may start operating until June 22 under strict guidelines and inspections.Most day camps in southern CT have announced they will not run including a number operated by Chabad
@DovidBT
In 2019 the daily cost for a 7 week whole summer stay broke down to $225
For 2020 with the new rules and restrictions in place it will be $298.25
There will be far fewer activities, no out of camp trips, less staff, no contact sports, no team sports that require more than 4 players on a team (due to the 9 campers to a counselor maximum), that means no baseball (9 players on a team) or basketball (4 players on a team). No wrestling or boxing, a Dramatic or musical presentation in the Rec hall could only have a cast, support staff and audience numbering 30.With a limit of 30 in a group, they are planning to close the mess hall and deliver meals to each bunk to be eaten outside at a picnic table in nice weather or inside if it rains.
Sounds like a terrible summer for a huge cost. Other board members who opposed the opening think the season will be cancelled once final regulations are known and the health departments get involved.
I know that the cabins/bunkhouses have toilets and sinks with cold water only. Hot water is available in the shower houses. I can’t imagine the health department accepting cold water for sanitizing the cabins each day.
Connecticut is allowing camps to open camps to open June 29 with very strict set of rules and restrictions. You might find a day cam and home rental in the Waterbury area to suit your requirements.
Since the regulations limit groups to 30 including staff and a counselor to 9 campers I don;t think it will be economically viable for camps to operate,
I have been on the board of a Jewish community sleepaway camp for 40+ years. They have also operated a day camp on the grounds for a few years. Last year there were 300 sleeping in camp plus 200 in day camp.
This year, no day camp and in order to comply with the group of 30 rules (mess hall, religious services, swimming, etc. There will be only 60 campers and 20 staff. The costs will be astronomical, almost $300 a day per camper (and this is a non-profit camp). I voted to keep the camp closed this summer, but was on the losing side. Now we’ll see if the state approves the camp’s plan of operation and it actually opens. IO highly doubt it.
The good news is I tested Negative……………………….
The bad news is Trump also claims he has tested negative.
As a member of our town’s Economic Development Commission, we have been pushing buy local, support the local businesses that support your organizations, since March.
Although closed to in person shopping, non-essential businesses have been allowed to take telephone/internet orders for delivery and curbside pickup during limited hours, all orders prepaid co there is no contact at pickup.
The town coordinates the pickup times has marked the spaces along the curb reserved for pickup and special town issued traffic signs. The no parking rules for these zones are suspended for the pickup operations.
When one drives up to the pickup spot, you call the store on the phone number posted on the sign and give your name, car make, model, color and parking space number, pop your trunk or liftgate and wait a minute or two. The employee brings out your purchase comes to the back of the car and places the package inside. You get our and close the trunk or liftgate (if not remote) after the employee as gone back into the building and drive off.Stores that had been closed before this system was up and running have a chance to give employment to a few employees as well as turn inventory into cash.