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I must preface this by stating I have never supported ICE or most actions by the Felon in the White House.
That said the frum community will not change its views until many frum white Jews with accents get swept up I. ICE raids, or they lose all their employees, nannies, cleaning ladies and landscapers.
When ICE takes our brethren or it hits their pockets, they might change their minds. If they rake white Jews instead of only people of color, it might change their minds.
There are many different legal aliens in the US who are Israelis who have overstayed tourist visas or are working while on educational or tourist visas. ICE will target them, too.When did Waterbury have “big Rabbonim?”
CTLawyers father was in business in Waterbury from 1958-1976. I was in business there until 1982.
No big Rabbonim from the late 50s through the virtual death of the community.
Then the Yeshiva bought up the vacant Conservative synagogue as its home.In the 50s through the early 80s a father and then his son held the pulpit in the orthodox shul in Waterbury. I will not name them publicly(but knew them well personally). These were in no way big Rabbonim.
The day school closed in the 60s.I have never written about limousines.
I do my own driving and have done so for about 60 years.I posted an opinion not a statement of facts
SquareRoot
Your racism is disgusting. People used to say that about JewsParticipant
You pose a situation that can take place in whatever country you live in, but then ask about legal consequences using terms from the American legal system.
Your entire scenario is faulty and a waste of everyone’s time
@Joseph
I didn’t say Trump was doing something in terms of forcing regime change in foreign countries. I said I don’t agree with with it.@AAQ
In the early 80s Trump shortchanged payment of a work/goods contract for one of his hotels to a company owned by my eldest brother and me. My share of the shortfall cost me more than a quarter million dollars. We filed suit and Trump declared bankruptcy on the corporation which shortchanged payment.This was long before he entered the political world. He has a a decades long pattern of not paying contractors in full and declaring bankruptcy of his companies
@Coffee
I was in Santiago Chile when Nixon and Company took out President Allende. I place no credibility in the report of his suicide later in the Day. We ended up with Pinochet running the country which was worse.I objected to the Biden administration bounty on Maduro, but Biden did not use US troops to invade a sovereign country, a member of the OAS as Trump
Just did.
I was not happy when we forced Noriega out in Panama, either. I don’t this the US should determine the chief executive of other countries.@AAQ
I am not defending another dictator or anyone to stick ig to Trump.
My disdain for Trump goes back
More than 40 years and has nothing to do with politics. It stems from personal business dealings.@DovidBT
My choice for President is who I think is best for the USA and its residents, not my personal bank account.
I have voted for candidates From both major parties over the years.
B”H at this stage of life, I can live on what I have and don’t need a President to expand my wealth. Hashem determines my lot, not the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C.Which dictator do you think I am defending?
I certainly am not pro-Maduro but don’t support the military action taken that in my legal understanding violated the War Powers Act@Coffee
Don’t hold your breath. I get up from Shabbos snd check the news and find out he had invaded Venezuela, abducted the president and First Lady and s as noun ex we are taking over the oil supply and will sell it off around the world,
How much of that money will live the pockets B of the Trump family and associates,
If I hear one more Jew say ‘he’s good for Israel’ I will vomit. We elect a President of the USA, not an advocate for the Netanyahu regime,According to the email blast our shul Rav (Litvak) sent Friday noon:
Building a snowman on Shabbos is assur and in fact the prohibition is D’oraysa according to some poskim.@common
Someone has to say Tachanun. We Litvaks don’t look for excuses to get out of saying Tachanun.
Just because someone got realeased from Czarist prison more than 100 years ago is not a reason for us to omit Tachanun@chaim87
I am not chassidish.I have owned a shack in the Catskills I inherited almost 45 years ago and don’t use. But there are 3 acres attached and if someone ever wants to develop the failed summer community it might be of value,
That said, I have a Florida home. I am looking at the ice and sleet in Long Island and don’t want to spend my winters in the north. This the appeal of Florida.
Having a FL law license, I years ago opened an office in Boca. Now I have several children and their families living there. I can fly there in 2.5 hours the same time it would take to drive to the country. No thanks, not attractive to meYes,
I used to be a mitnagid and now and Chassid tolerant.
Thank you Joseph@Square Root
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Unlike encyclopedias, there is no professional editorial staff, checking facts and verifying sources.
@DaMoishe
SquareRoot’s clam was not about some municipality. It was specifically about the City of Denver and The State of Colorado.Your comment has nothing to do with what I challenged.
I did some further checking on your false statements.
The City of Denver is NOT the largest employer in the City of Denver,
The LARGEST employer is the Denver International Airport (35,000 workers). The Airport is partially owned by the city.@SquareRoot
As a social Liberal and Fiscal Conservative I do support the deportation of those in the USA without proper immigration papers. Remember this works in many ways. In addition to the dark skinned Africans and Latinos there are many Eastern Europeans and Irish with white skin and loads of swarthy Israelis who have overstayed their tourist visas.Next item, it is ridiculous that a municipality (Denver) should be the largest employer within the city limits. That makes no economic sense. I would think businesses and institutions such as universities and hospitals would be the largest employers.
Third, there is no proof that ‘illegal aliens’ are voting (for Democrats or Republicans). I have spent the past thirty years as an election official and in person voter fraud is an extremely low occurrence.
In 2024 I did have to have one person arrested for attempting to vote as if he was someone else. He had a drivers license with the same name and address as his father (not marked Jr.), but he was on the felons list and had lost his right to vote. This was a white, male Republican. As the police cuffed him and hauled him away he remarked: my next door neighbor was sunning for office (Republican) and told me to come in and vote for him, your father seldom votes.Tziab
I am not going to pick apart your observation or argue your points, BUT
The US imposed income taxes of approx 3.5% in annual incomes more than $800 by the Revenue act of 1861. Thank you Republican Party.
It was repealed in 1872.
In 1913 the US Constitution was amended to allow for a federal income tax not subject to earlier taxing provisions of the Constitution.Your statement that there were no income taxes snd the income tax was introduced in 1913 is factually incorrect.
BTW, my family arrived in the US during the 1860s and was subject to the original US income tax
@ZSK
I am well aware of Florida demographics. For 35 year biggest client was in St Augustine. I had both a home and office there. Satellite offices in Daytona Beach and Gainesville.@coffee
Not two reasons
I was uncomfortable with the person next to me carrying a gun during davening. Civilian status unimportant to me.I am aware some police organizations require employees to carry off duty. I don’t care to daven next to a gun. Just as we have women’s sections with a mechitzah, perhaps we could have one for armed men
@DovidBT
Thank you for the correction. One of the non-joys of aging is that memory is not always as sharp as it once was.@AAQ
Protection has a cost. If a congregation cannot afford a private security guard they can ask for stepped up coverage by law enforcement.
Here in Nassau County we have active Auxillary Police who perform security, many are shul members@DovidBT
Don’t assume!
That fact that you are a veteran does not meet my criteria unless you are a current member of the Reserve and/or National guard or other professions I delineated.BTW, IIRC don’t you currently live in EY?
My comments are exclusive to the USA and our constitution/laws.@ZSK
We happen to have a home in Florida. The shul we attend posted that it is against shul rules to bring a gun into the davening areas, notwithstanding state carry permits.
If I saw someone breaking the shul rule, I would ask the Gabbai to enforce the rule.@coffee
I did answer you you said at the entrance. I said no problem with a cop outside the door with a gun. To me that is at the entrance.
You didn’t ask about inside the building at the entrance to a particular room where davening occurs.@aaq
‘Redleg better armed to defend your right…’
Different type of defense, I‘Ll defend you in court on that charge that violated the First Amendment
A major problem with the current administration@DovidBT
My next door neighbors on either side of the CTL compound in Connecticut were members of the National guard and the neighbor directly across the street a policeman. these are the types of individuals who should be allowed to have gunsMy first in-laws emigrated to Palestine in the early 1930s.
Father in law from Vienna via HaShomer HaTzair (despite being frum). MIL from northern Germany with her younger brother via Youth Aliyah.Yes, their journeys and entry were facilitated by Zionists.
FIL, was a Zionist from a young age. His parents got Visas for the US in 1932, he refused to go with them, insisting on moving to Palestine.Your generalization about those who came pre1948 is far from accurate.
I also had cousins from Brooklyn who arrived in the Yishuv in 1933 and 1946 via the Zionist organizations.
By 1946 it was virtually impossible to get permanent housing if you did not arrive through organized Zionist channels. Those arriving illegally lived clandestinely til May 1948.As a side note I laugh at the right wing frum Jews in America complaining about illegal immigrants when so many of us were illegal immigrants in British Mandat Palestine. Talk about hypocrisy
@ujm
I post in support of your observations about Lakewood (Monsey, Teaneck & the Five Towns as well) draining the Frum OOT communities.
A week ago I was in my firmer Connecticut Community to see a doctor and davened at my old weekday minyan. All of the regulars (70+ years of age) were in attendance.
The discussion after davening was who was going to the Kids in Lakewood, Teaneck, Monsey. Hewlett or EY for the Yomin Noraim. Mamma and Papa are stuck living in the same OOT dying community. They successfully raised and educated their children, sent them to the finest Yeshivos and Seminaries, married them off and funded their down payments in their new homes. Most would like to move and live near children and grandchildren, BUT>>>>>>
the men must continue to run the family businesses and professional practices that are supporting all these “adult” children and their families in their new locations. A generation ago, we went away to be educated, but came back to our communities and family/businesses. This is no longer the OOT norm.@Coffee
I have no problem with a policeman outside the shul door who is armed as a deterrent to miscreants and other threats to our safety.@coffee
I wrote I was uncomfortable davening in shul with the person next to me having a gun.
I consider a shul a place of peace where guns don’t belong.
Being in a shul named Beth Shalom (just an example) one does not expect to see guns in the pews.That is not “being uncomfortable around civilians using guns even if they’re good law abiding citizens….”
Please don’t twist my words. The fellow davener with a gun in his holster is not using a gun, he is carrying. Whether or not the gun is muktzah is not for me to pasken.
@AAQ
Have you ever seen someone shot to death in a civilian setting?
Unfortunately, I have a number of times.
The first time, I was 16 years old working retail. The store owner pulled a gun from under. The Counter to stop a shop lifter, when the thief refused to drop the merchandise, the shopkeeper fired and missed the shoplifter, but killed a child shopping with her mother.The second time was a drug shootout, three bystanders killed as collateral damage.
I’ve seen more, but these were more than enough to fix my opinion.
In both these cases the killing guns were licensed.In junior high school we were required to learn to shoot rifles. They still had a WWII attitude that if drafted we should be ready to fight. 1967 was the last time I held or fired a firearm. I have no desire to do so again.
Last Sukkot we were guests at friends in the Five Towns. The host showed me his pistol below his suit jacket when we arrived at shul, told me he’d been auxiliary police for 29 years. He is that member of law enforcement or well organized militia that I believe has the right to carry a gun. That said it made me feel uncomfortable to have someone with a gun davening next to me in shul. I davened in a different shul The rest of Sukkot. There may have been those with guns but I was not aware of their presence.
My comments are about gun ownership in the US and the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.
That said, as so many Israelis are reservists and subject to being called up they would qualify as being part of that ill-defined well organized militia
Redleg
Evil diet was a typo but the Coffee Room does not allow editsI have little respect for the current SCOTUS for many reasons
I don’t agree that I have conflated anything in the second Amendment.
I am anti- private gun ownership. I don’t hide that fact
You will not change my mind and I will not change yours, but as much as I disagree with your opinion I will defend your right to make it known
Coffee
A good Democrat, who is not in the armed forces, national guard (well organized militia referred to in second amendment, law enforcement or is a corrections officer does not have a gun. Thus, you won’t hear of them stopping an evil diet with a gun.About 40 years ago I did stop a mugging by staying mace into the attacker’s face (I was not the intended victim, but a passerby. Before cellphones, so couldn’t call 911
I don’t hide my anti private gun ownership position
Until moving to Nassau County when I remarried, I had never lived within an eruv. I still find myself checking pockets on Shabbos.
Gone are the days of house key tie clips as we have push button door locks.
Out of habit I do not carry on Shabbos, but trust the Rabbeinu who supervise the local Eruv and my wife carries.
We live across the street from a park full of families on Shabbos. Many Ashkenazi kids play baseball, the Sephardic Rabbis assured it. Loads of scooters but no bicycles on Shabbos.
I am not yet comfortable with all the baby strollers parked outside shul every Shabbos, but an eruv has greatly increased the female attendance.@Square Root
Thank you for your response.
You realize that I actually read your posts and comment; and then only take issue or refute things for which I have facts/evidence as opposed to an opinion.Much of what you wrote reflects reality in EY
Wishing you and yours a Chativa v Chatima Tova and ask that you be Moichel to me if I have committed an avera against you
I must concur with UJM/Joseph
Being a moderator or Administrator of an online group is a time consuming unpaid thankless job.
Much better to have delays, appropriate excisions or decisions not to publish than be bombarded by Schmitz and lashing horah.
W all owe an expression of Hakoras HaTov to the moderators of the Coffee Room
As for coffee, I‘Ll drinki it piping hot, ice cold or having sat in the mug in my desk for hours. I just won’t drink instant.
So it’s yea for me on Shabbos…..You blew this one big time
“Chareidim are NOT INTERESTED in the training, hiring and paying hospital employees.”
Guess you are completely unaware of Kiryat Sanz Laniado Hospital in Netanya. They train nurses and other hospital employees. A fully Chareidi hospital that has never gone on strike.
The CTL family has supported this instruction since before the first shovel of dirt was removed from the ground.
Kudos to Rav Halbersram Z”L the Klausenberger Rebbe who turned a dream into a reality.You make a choice to be constantly running.
The late Mrs.CTL and I ran our professional practices/businesses from offices attached to the home when we had minor children.
They never were in the care of a nanny and were raised by us not the school teachers.
We could have earned more working for large firms but family came first.
Yes we ran, to see our daughters in school plays or sports, etc.
BTW, living out of town meant a trip to a kosher restaurant was at least 40 minutes each way. So, there was no grabbing takeout. Every night there was a home cooked meal for family dinner (I cooked, she baked) and in more than 40 years of marriage we never once bought Shabbos or Pesach.Living in NY now, I am appalled at the number of children being raised by non-Jewish nannies, while both parents work and one salary pays childcare. I live directly across the street from a park full of frum children and the nannies all sitting in the benches on their cell phones. It is no wonder that the youngsters are so poorly behaved.
@AAQ
Bank branch managers are required to take a two week vacation each year (in addition to well long vacations) so a complete branch audit may be conducted by bank examiners.@CoffeeAddict
Three weeks ago caught a special on Jet Blue on their nighttime flights.I don’t mind a flight that arrives at 1am in FT Lauderdale
On vacation now, headed to Florida. Not fancy, not expensive.
Flights from NYC were $54 each way. Staying in my condo bought 40 years ago. Not eating out in all the overpriced restaurants, but quiet at home meals with my wife.
She can spend her days at the pool with the ladies or playing Mah Jongg while I learn at the local Kollel.
At home there are too many interruptions and distractions.Neither of us will check work emails or answer work calls.
Contrary to None’s opinion, a vacation need not be expensive bd not all of us need to save up to take one.
Wife and I are both Septuagenarians and work because we enjoy what we do, not because we need the parnassah.
Borenstein Caterers is owned by El Al preparing all their meals for flights originating in the USA as well as proving kosher meals to other airlines and transportation. Companies
Reliable hashgacha, Glatt kosher under OU with cross endorsement by Volover, universally accepted chasidiche hashgachaUJM/Joseph is not a youngster
E. In Brooklyn with wife and his unmarried childrenHe and I often disagree but have always been cordial and respectful to each other
Sorry, you are incorrect about garters.
They are used to hold up hosiery, not just by women.
Long before American men wore stretch socks, a garter was used to cinch or secure the sock near the top to keep it from falling down.
I still own our cotton lisle dress socks that are size specific and have no elastic in them (binds circulation) that are held up by garters under my trousers.Being both old and having grow up in the clothing business I know about these things.
@AAQ
PHd, does original research in the field of knowledge and defends the work before faculty and peers.Not all Doctorate degrees are PHds
I have a PHd in one field, and a J.D.(Juris Doctor) degree in law. In fact law is the one American academic discipline where a doctorate is a lower degree than a Master’s degree. After my JD, I studied for and was awarded an LLM (Masters of Legal Letters) degree .
Many public school principals have Ed. Degrees which is 60 credits past their Master’s degree with often no thesis or original research required and no defense. It just brings a higher rate of pay. Many do these on line.@ujm
You need to get a lifeDishes, flatware, glassware are not fabric and are washed in hot water
As for hotels (I don’t use the often) but pack a vinyl mattress cover and pillow covers in my suitcase. I tip the housekeeper to strip the bed, put these covers on and place freshly laundered bed linen and blankets on the bed.
I will use the freshly laundered towels in the bathroom.
We went away for a Pesach program this year, traveling via car and stopped at Home Goods and bought new pillows to take with us to avoid dust mite issuesI previously answered your car rental question; and I don’t take Uber or car services.
I no longer do much travel