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Sparkly………
I’m in agreement with you. The USA is not a theocracy and wives are not chattel belonging to husbands.
In 1970 my sister was married immediately after graduating college and just before starting to teach. My brother and I each gave her $1,000 and told her this is your money, it is not your husband’s property. Soon you’ll be earning a living, but when the children come and only he is working you still need to have some independent money. We never want you in the situation of having to ask your husband for money to buy him a birthday gift. If this ever runs out and you have not been able tgo replenish it come back and tell us.
About 10 years later when she had both a sickly husband and a deaf child, she told us she needed some extra personal funds. We were more than happy to help.
When our eldest daughter was married erev Pesach our sons also gave her a private cash stash. It was larger than my sister got, as it is 45 years later.
No woman should have to be so controlled by a man that she lives in fear of embarrassment that the husband would tell a merchant that my wife was not authorized to buy from you and demand the money back.
Lilmod……………….
There are Yeshivas that don’t allow the bochurim to drive to/from the Yeshiva or keep a car near the dorm, but I haven’t run into many that don’t permit bochurim to get a license and drive at their parents homes during Bain Hazmanim….the license is also important for those who work at the summer camps associated with the Yeshiva and its movement.
If your son drives a car or travels to and from Yeshiva or school on his own he should have a phone for safety.
This doesn’t mean he should have a smart phone or the ability to text or play games. I carry an old fashioned flip phone and have texting blocked on my account. It is invaluable if one has to call for road service when there is car trouble.
Shopping……. …..
The coffee room is a diversion and amusement for me. I like to read differing opinions, minhagim, etc. from a wide spectrum of ‘observant’ Jews.
I take none of it very seriously, but the regulars in this group are a support system as well as online friends. When Mrs. CTL was on life support in a coma this spring and early summer it was reassuring to know that Jews of all stripes who I have never met were praying for her well being and offering me moral support. No one cared if I daven Ashkenaz, Nusah HaAri, wore a kipah srugah or a sthreimel. I was just another Jew who needed emotional support and it was forthcoming despite my being a Liberal Democrat.
Yehudayona……………
A judge in civil court will never have to pronounce a death sentence. Although we don’t have the death penalty in CT and most northern states it does exist in some jurisdictions. that’s why I differentiate between civil and criminal court appointments/elections.
Joseph….
The fact that a computer schedules the judges doesn’t negate the fact that judges can and do reject cases. It happens all the time.
I do occasionally appear in Federal Court in New York as it is the same District as CT and I am admitted. Last year I got a note from an old classmate who sits on the Federal Bench that he saw my name as counsel in a trial assigned to him, he had his clerk send it back for reassignment. No big deal.
Monday afternoon I had to be at JFK International arrivals to meet a client coming in on Swiss International via Zurich. The flight was late. I watched many frum passengers coming out from flights arriving from EY, Europe and Australia. There were many families and girls returning home identifiable by their dress, all types of Yidden of every Chasidic, litvish or MO stripe.
BUT I also saw at least 100 bochorim returning refreshed from visits home during bein hazmanim eager to return to Yeshiva and start the new zman. I was close enough to hear conversations in which they expressed the joy in having seen family and home, participating in family simchas or simply resting and eating momma’s food, sleeping in their own bed and not following the regimen of yeshivah and enduring dorm life. The bein hazmanim break is as important to the bochorim as their parents and siblings, if not more so…and don’t forget the rebbeim need a break as well.
Joseph……..
Only a theoretical answer can be given to a hypothetical question.
Until an actual occurrence occurs we’ll never know the action of a particular judge.
As for NY being a busy place with many lawsuits by Jews, NY is a big place and as such has many more judges than smaller places. That said, a judge can only handle so many cases per week and NY has more judges. The administrative judge (and his clerk) assigns cases. The indvidual clerk and judge review assignments and it is common to refuse, trade off or otherwise duck cases. This is far different from recusing oneself from a case. In that case the litigants and or their attorneys appear before the judge and the judge explains that because of some bias, connection, prior knowledge, personal connection, etc. he/she cannot hear the case fairly and withdraws.
I don’t live in NYC and I certainly am not running for a position as a civil court judge, but if I were and wanted to ease the possibility of adjudicating these cases that ‘should’ have been brought to a beis din, I’d ask the administrative judge to assign me to a court sitting in less Jewish populated area such as Richmond or the Bronx.
BUT, this is all an exercise in Hypothetical and Theory, neither of us are the candidate and it is for him to decide what to do should he be elected and sworn in.
Lastly, “Jews are limited by virtue of the fact that the default in Jewish law is that using non-Jewish courts is prohibited barring extenuating circumstances recognized by halacha.” is something the litigant(s) has/have chosen to ignore if suit was brought in civil court. The State cannot make people adhere to any system of non-civil law (Halacha, Canon, Sharia) if as residents or citizens they choose to make use of the civil courts they cannot be denied.
Joseph….
In your hypothetical the Frum judge should simply have his clerk remove the case from his calendar for reassignment to another judge. He need not publicly (or privately comment as to why). The chief administrative judge would not likely ask why for these very rare instances.
Do I think the Frum judge would do so, probably…see next paragraph.
In the 1980s I remember an Irish Catholic judge who served in Superior Court (trial level court) in Connecticut. Judge F was very observant in his faith and did not believe in divorce as an option for Catholics. Every few years he would get stuck with a 3 month term in Family court. He’d attend the scheduling meetings and put his name down for custody and alimony cases and divorces that didn’t show the parties to be Catholic (done by examining the marriage licenses in the case files, ceremony not conducted by or signed by a priest). He’d pass on divorces between known Catholics letting Jewish or Protestant judges take the assignments.
I have known Morty (Mordechai Avigdor) since I was a teenager. I knew his parents OBM and his brothers. Both Morty and his Brother David practice(d) law. David has also been a shul rav in CT for more than 35 years. His father the Late Rabbi Dr. Issac C. Avigdor was a scholar publishing both sforim and books in English for lay Jewry.
Boys in the Avigdor family were educated both in the Yeshiva world and with professional degrees to function in society at large. For many years Mordechai Avigdor represented Aguda in actions filed with the US government. Now he seeks a seat on the civil court bench. There is nothing wrong with a Jew applying civil law to solve contract cases (which is what civil court is about). This is not a judge who is charged with sending people to jail or enforcing dina malchusa, merely deciding if a party is aggrieved and entitled to be made whole under the law.
I have no vote in this election and live in a state where we don’t elect judges (with the exception of part time probate judges). If I lived in the district I would gladly vote for Avigdor for Civil Court Judge
I have said for years that if I want something and can’t afford it, the chances are the giver (in the family) can’t afford it either.
One of the best gifts Mrs. CTL ever gave me was a certificate for 5 nights of my choosing for uninterrupted time with her….
No kids, relatives, no calls, doorbells, just us.
I enjoyed every one of them.
The cost was her time to arrange that the kids be elsewhere and we not be disturbed. Worth much more to me than anything that could be purchased for money.
Popa………..
University of PA, Wharton School of Finance, Penn Law….back then they had a special 6 year program BS, MBA, JD
UCONN is a good Law School but not IVY League, growing up in New Haven I had no desire to go to Yale and the only other Law School in Connecticut was University of Bridgeport which was not a great school. Some 30 years ago its faculty voted to leave UB and join Quinnipiac and it is a much better school.
Small states don’t have much choice in professional schools. Until this year we had only 2 medical school: Yale and UCONN, now Quinnipiac has opened one to compete. In fact there are only 8 schools in CT where one can get a BSRN, 3 are Catholic Universities, the Quinnipiac and 4 state Universities who only take 40 students each per year. That’s why youngest daughter is doing her BSRN in NY.
I was in Law School in Philadelphia, Mrs. CTL to be was doing a grad degree at Teachers College, Columbia U. Our mothers had been childhood friends and suggested we go out.
So, I took the train up from Phila., we had dinner at Lou G. Siegel’s in the garment district (charged the meal to Zaideh’s house account) and then went to a basketball game at Madison Sq. Garden. The Knicks lost, but I won. Married the next year after both graduations…almost 45 years ago.
I haven’t been to a Knick’s game since
Yehudayona….
Tallis size is dependent on the person. I was less than 1″ taller at marriage than at my Bar Mitzvah, and I weighed less. I was a very heavy adolescent, but only a heavy adult.
Joseph…………
Please do not put words in my mouth.
Nowhere do I post that diamonds are required for an engagement. The fact that it is our family tradition is certainly not binding on others.
As for the deception, it is not between the giver and recipient that concerns me, it is the assumed false representation to the world that presents a problem.
I could no more see my wife or daughters wear a CZ than fake designer handbags or clothing, it’s not what we do.
These are all personal feelings, they are not to say that use and wearing of CZ or other faux diamond rings is acceptable to others. I have written buy what you can afford. You should also buy what you feel comfortable owning and wearing.
DY………….
I guess the norm has changed in the past 50 years.
Brother and I are both married more than 45 years and didn’t get them, as we already owned them.
BTW…in our family we don’t add silver ataros either.
DaasYochid….
if your daughter marries a Yekkah you can save on the Tallis and accessories. He would have gotten them at Bar Mitzvah. Opa took care of them for my brother an I at that time.
Moshiach agent…
Precious gemstones are generally separated into two categories:
Diamonds and colored stones (Rubies, Sapphires and Emeralds).
Colored Diamonds have imperfection or chemicals causing the color.
Other stones are often called gemstones, but are really semi-precious stones and often colored, and occasionally clear.
All of this applies to natural stones, not man made
Joseph…….
No, you can give a CZ or other simulated diamond. I don’t gave fake things, and as an attorney our ethics do not look kindly on public deception.
Mrs. CTL proudly wears the engagement stone my paternal grandfather gave my grandmother in 1917. Eldest daughter in law’s stone was given by maternal grandfather to grandmother in 1919. Next daughter in law has the stone my father gave my mother in 1941. Our next three children are girls the rings will or did come from the chasson.
Our 15 grandson will get the stone my maternal grandfather bought for my grandmother on their 50th wedding anniversary. There are other assorted stones from our ancestors in the vault for future needs. All will be real, none will be fake and quote ‘good enough to fool others’ we don’t do things that way.
This is an individual decision, and as I [posted earlier, only buy what you can afford. B”H my forefathers made sure that there were two things we’d not have to buy in the foreseeable future: Diamonds for engagements and burial plots. My Great Grandfather bought 1000 plots in the family cemetery in 1919 for $1000…that was a good investment.
Joesph…we may be both Americans and Brits here, but the English language got this word from French.
Cheval>>>>horse
Chevalier>>>>>>Knight
Chevalerie>>>>>Chivalrie
From 1066 England was ruled by the Norman French (William the Conqueror)
The language of court and the upper classes was French, the peasantry spoke Anglo-Saxon tongues.
Modern British English developed as a language with parallel word from French and Anglo-Saxon English.
Chicken–English, Poultry–from French Poulet
As often stated the Americans and Brits are separated by a common language. Our first floor is at the entry, theirs is up a full flight.
BarryLS1
I dealt with both investment grade diamonds and engagement rings in my reply.
Diamonds are not a great investment because the pricing is controlled by a cartel led by DeBeers who has the ability to control quantity and quality of stones available on the market.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie Casablanca is of a wealthy refugee couple in Rick’s Cafe Americain attempting to sell a diamond to finance their trip to freedom. The buyer offers a very low price, the sellers seemed shocked and they are told that ‘diamonds are a drug on the market, everybody tries to sell diamonds’ in these times.
RebYidd23…………..
Reality check time:
This is America (or maybe you are in EY). o tell a young lady that she is not worth the price of a diamond at her engagement and instead she’ll receive another gemstone you consider a better buy>>>>
You will be seen as not caring enough for her, she will feel that the other girls will snicker about her ring…she’ll stand out as different with that colored stone, and her family will lower their opinion of you. Better to give a smaller diamond you can afford than a colored stone.
As for a better gemstone…that is a very subjective word. Diamonds are traditionally known as the hardest gemstone on the MOHs and Vickers scales.
You claim the price is overinflated,it is all about supply and demand determining the market price. Chances are you will not be buying the benchmark D Flawless investment grade diamond that currently retails at about $29,000 US. It has risen dramatically in the last few years since the 2007/8 international banking collapse, the rise of Muslim Terror attacks, political instability in many areas and the restrictions on ‘blood’ diamonds. It is far easier to shift a small envelope of diamonds across a border than kilo bars of gold.
This is also a time of conspicuous consumption in the world. With banks paying next to no interest on money deposits, people are willing to spend large amounts on diamonds. There is also the phenomenon of the newly wealthy Russian and Chinese billionaires who have driven up demand for the finest quality stones.
We have seen changes in the diamond market over time. I can remember one of my trust clients having to insure a particular diamond for $70,000 in the early 1980s. When it came time to distribute the assets of the trust about 10 years ago the market value was only about $35,000.
I am not in the diamond or jewelry business nor are any of my relatives. However, I am both a husband and father of three daughters and I know that neither Mrs. CTL or my girls would have wanted a colored stone for an engagement ring.
Remember, one should buy what one can afford, whether a diamond, house, car or cost of a wedding.
HappyGirlyGirl………..
Mrs. CTL and I have two sons followed by three daughters. The sons are long married and our eldest grandson is only 15…way too young to think of marriage.
BUT, I like your go getter attitude!
Joseph…….
In our family it is tradition that when the girl receives her diamond engagement ring, the chosson receives a gold watch.
It is not our responsibility to buy shas, seforim, car or house. Our daughter (not us) bought him a talis. Other 2 girls are not married yet.
We have 3 married children B”H and all were able to buy their own homes. This is not to say that Mrs. CTL may not have dipped into her knippel and I might have paid a few of the costs.
As for the Tuxedo…yes I did take my future SIL to my tailor and order him a few suits, evening wear and a dozen shirts custom made.
As of their wedding this past April, SIL works in my law firm and he must embody the business image I have built over the years.
Joseph……….
My parents Z”L were married in NYC in 1944. They had an orthodox wedding but never got a marriage license. They filed joint income tax as husband and wife and owned joint property for the 65 years of their marriage.
After my father died, mom went to Social Security to get the widow’s benefit. She had been collecting CT teacher’s retirement on her own account since 1984 (public school teachers in CT are not covered by Social Security). At Social Security they demanded mom produce a certified copy of her marriage license in order to get the widow’s benefit.
After explaining for an hour that she and dad had a religious ceremony in NY and no marriage license, she was told that of she brought in her ketuba and if it was in both English and Hebrew it would satisfy the requirements. B”H my parents had both the hand calligraphy ketuba hanging on the dining room wall for 65 years and a small printed English Hebrew Ketubah that the hotel insisted the mesader kedushin fill out. That made it possible for mom to collect many thousands of dollars per year until she passed away.
I tell my family law clients to come in before marriage to set up trusts and/or prenuptial agreements to make sure to get, have filled out and recorded a marriage license form the state. It may be vital to your financial well being in years to come.
If the young lady lives in her parents home, don’t send flowers before Shabbos unless you are planning to visit the home at some point that Shabbos.
If you are not invited for a meal, but to stop by for tea and visit, or pick the young lady up for a Shabbos walk then sending the flowers to the house is appropriate, just make sure the card wishes the entire family a Gut Shabbos, not a card just addressed to the young lady.
If she lives on her own or with female roommates, don’t send flowers. It will be taken as a sign you are committed and an engagement is imminent.
Dov….
What you say about college professors might be true in the humanities, but the OP is taking science courses…A+P and Organic Chem…the bias you describe would not enter the class…it is all so cut and dry (says the father of a nursing student dealing with these courses).
I also disagree with your blanket statements about the professors and their liberal views.
I have a B.Sc. MBA, JD, LLM and have had many a right wing conservative professor spewing hate and a desire to reverse decisions of the Supreme Court dating back to Brown v. Board of Education.
I am a social liberal and these professors were to the right of Atila the Hun
Yehudayona……….
My mother Z”L died last year at 93 years of age. Whenever she was offered coffee by a waiter or host she’d reply: “I’m not old enough to drink coffee.” She never tasted it. My brother tasted it in April for the first time on his 70th birthday. My 67 year old sister has never tasted coffee.
I am typing this as I have my 8th cup of the day
How much time is too much time? When you were in high school you went to classes between 30 and 40 hours per week.
A full load in college is 15 hours of class time. For every hour of class time you need 3 hours study/prep/homework for a total of 60 hours per week.
I assume you had at least 10-15 hours per week of homework/study/prep in High School….so they are similar in time requirements.
As for travel time, that is a personal choice you have made, not the fault of the college. My youngest lives in a college dorm on campus. She can reach classes in 5 minutes.
I did a graduate degree about 10 years ago that required a 6 hour roundtrip drive twice a week for 18 months, but I wasn’t going to leave my family to live near the school.
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Old enough to predate the Chareidi or MO labels. OOT we were known as European Traditional. That meant, orthodox shul with Mechitza or balcony, kids went to day school then college and professional school with a year or two of post high school full time learning. Kosher homes (before the Glatt craze of the 70s using local butchers and bakeries). Married women covered their hair with wig or a hat outside the home. Shomer Shabbos.
Today, I think we would be known as MO (although I don’t consider myself modern) because we are content to live in small town mixed communities and do business in the mixed world.
In 140+ years this system has worked for our family in America
Avi K…
my answer is not meant to be an enigma. The problem is the choice of words used by the OP.
There is a difference between ‘successfully marry’ and having a successful marriage.
The mere completion of a legal marriage ceremony means that the participants have successfully married. They have accomplished the stated goal going from two single individuals to one married couple.
If, OTOH the OP meant is their only one person with whom each individual can have a successful long term marriage that is a different question.
dovrosenbaum…………..
If a family lives OOT and the 20 something child is attending medical, dental or law school the chances are that that child will not be living at home. Our children attended professional schools in major US cities with frum communities and amenities. They had apartments and had to cook and clean for themselves. It happens that sons 1&2 overlapped in one apartment. Daughters 1&2 occupied a condo in Brooklyn that we purchased for their grad school days.
The only commutable first rank law or medical schools that could have allowed living at home were at Yale. Having gone to a different IVY League U and Law school it was not what I wanted for them. The boys went to Harvard, the girls went to Penn. Daughter 3 is still in undergraduate school and in a dorm in NY.
Both MRS CTL and I went to college and prof schools and lived on our own. I guess our parents had more liberal attitudes than yours. Our family also doesn’t let children marry until education is complete and a professional license in place. Child 4 graduated Law School in December, took the Bar Exam (and passed B”H) and was married just before Pesach. This system works for us.
A man could successfully marry any available (and legal to marry) woman. The question is can the man maintain a successful marriage to any woman besides his bashert?
As a family law attorney, I see many men who successfully married but could not maintain the marriage for life.
I’ll skip question #1 because I don’t think one should combine the terms. They tell relative age and marital status, in fact the word ‘widowed’ is missing from marital status.
As for the female term for ‘guy’ it is ‘gal’
It’s been more than 45 years since I dated, but it was not important if I knew whether the girl could cook and/or bake before we dated.
My mother A”L taught all her children how to cook, bake and do laundry the summer of the child’s 8th year. Mother was an educator, off from work in the summer. She felt that both boys and girls needed to be self sufficient in the home.
Mrs. CTL knew how to cook and bake when we married, but we split duties according to our schedules. This year when she spent more than a month in the hospital I did not have to rely on family and friends for sustenance.
At her shvigger’s urging Mrs. CTL taught all 5 of our children to cook, bake and do laundry at similar ages. Since the older 3 maintained their own apartments as singles in graduate school these skills came in handy.
Joseph……In general I agree with your numbers. I would add 3 years in the Litvish and MO communities for those in Medical < Dental and Law schools…Perfectly acceptable to delay to finish a professional education.
Our 4 child finished Law School in December. She had done a year of Seminary after High School before college, add 4 years college and then law school and she was 26 when she married just before Pesach. The new son in law is Litvish. He was also 26, they met in Law School, fixed up by a professor.
As a father, my first response is “?What? you’re going to a hotel on a first date?”
But seriously, I preferred that my daughters who were not living at home when they were dating, not have males come to their apartments and meet in a public place for safety reasons.
Coffee Addict………..
No, in essence I don’t have a smartphone. My tablet or Kindle Fire does not have a camera for still or video operations. I have no apps on them either. They are used for Internet for business/legal research and retrieving email sent from the office while I may be at a client or in court.
I do not have texting set up on my phone, and although it has a built in rudimentary camera there is no way I can send the photos anywhere Unless I buy additional plan features (not interested). I had an earlier slide phone years ago that had a removable card so I could upload photos to my computer. None of this technology appeals to me and I’ll not spend extra to have it.
Joseph………..
I don’t belong to or support AARP.
I have no problem with the Samsung phones we got from Verizon about 5 years ago. Never took an upgrade, never has a single problem with them. Our kids took all the upgrades over the years.
When my youngest got an iPhone 6s Plus she asked why I don’t have one. Mrs. CTL replied…that’s because poppa doesn’t have a wealthy father.
My children have smartphones, but use them for business or school purposes. I don’t find the need for internet access on my phone. I’m seldom in a place where I require internet that doesn’t have accessible wifi and I either have a tablet or my Kindle Fire with me.
Mrs. CTL and I both still use ordinary flip phones. Never got smartphones and don’t want them.
Youngest daughter is doing a BSRN.
A&P is a very difficult course. Her college did not require college Biology as a prerequisite. All of her friend taking a BSRN in our state Universities were required to take college Bio first and it made A&P much easier for them
She had no problem with Organic Chem, it was all math and memorization…
BTW….she as no intention as working as a nurse, she will follow the family tradition and go to law school. BUT, she and the next older sibling have decided they want to open a division of the family firm to deal with Personal Injury and Medical Malpractice (areas of the law we do not currently handle) and this would be a good background for her.
I never wanted to practice in that area of law and when I discouraged it, daughter reminded me that my maternal great-grandfather was an ambulance chaser back between 1900- and 1914 for a Manhattan law firm. Then it was a lawful profession and lucrative as well.
Ben Levi……………….
“It so happens that in the current environment it appears that the conservative are the ones that are more respectful of religious rights.”
WRONG…Conservatives are only more respectful of their OWN religious rights and beliefs.
They want to bring back prayer to the public schools.
They want to not allow Muslims to build Mosques and practice their religion wherever they would like in America
They want to have their version of biblical items on public property..e.g the 10 Commandments statues in the courthouse and state capitol (Kentucky and Oklahoma). The version wasn’t that which appears in the Torah.
The list goes on…………….
Health………….
RIDICULOUS…you make claims about a case that went to the Supreme Court and won’t cite it. There is no such thing as it has private information. If the case really went through the court system is is public record. This is not a family court case where names and information may be kept secret to protect minors.
You have no concrete evidence, you just are slinging accusations.
Trump’s call for a TOTAL ban on Muslim immigration is not the same as non-vetted as you now write.
You have lots of experience backpedalling………….
You can back upo nothing you have said. In fact anti-immigrant includes
those who are not here legally, and Trump is anti-immigrant, except when it comes to the two women he made babies with.
I through discussing this with you, it is a waste of time, you appear to have consumed the Trump Kool-Aid.
Health…
this is the FIRST time you refer to a ‘case’ that went all the way to SCOTUS and the court did not hold as you seem to think the law requires.
Please cite the case…I’d love to look it up
I have more than a clue what Trump is about. He is an opportunistic businessman, who has gone bankrupt repeatedly, had three wives, committed open adultery, stiffed workers. He is blatant in his anti-immigrant status…nonsense from the grandson of German immigrants whose grandfather ran bars and houses of prostitution in Canada.
You make statements about what I want without knowing what I want. You state I want everything to continue as it is. That is not so. I’d love to reduce the size of government, eliminate the stalemate in Congress, provide universal healthcare, make the tax rates equitable by eliminating many loopholes, have a Constitutional amendments to overturn Citizens United, eliminate the Electoral College and elect the President by popular vote and many more things.
Khol…is a crayon type eyeliner…………
I’ve seen the bills for the ladies of the house
Health……………..
Honesty NEVER fails me.
You still have not defined “they” instead you mock the the law and the courts.
The law is a thing, not a “they”
The Federal courts do little hiring, judges are appointed by politicians, not hired. The only court you mention has Jewish judges for 100 years.
But, all of this is a diversion from the thread’s topic, the OP’s accusation that Frum voters who cast their votes for Clinton are unfortunate.
That action is on;ly unfortunate for Clinton’s opponents in the race.
Health………….
I went to college before there was a Touro and law school before there was Touro or Cardozo.
I went to Ivy league college and law schools.
I was told the Jew quota was closed at Princeton and Wesleyan in the 1960s
You don’t have to prove anything to me, you are a person with only a screen name. BUT you made a claim of ‘they’ and didn’t identify who ‘they’ are…I merely asked you to tell us who the pronoun meant.
I have made reasonable accommodations for employees religious observances when hiring where possible. I have also received them over the years before I had my own firm.
There is no Goyish favor in going to an Ivy League college and paying large fees. Today, one is admitted based on performance, not quota. Gone are the days when you had to identify your religion and provide a picture on your application.
Health……..
Who is “they”
The law requires reasonable accommodation for religious beliefs/practices. It does not mandate accommodation in all cases.
I remember applying to college and being told the Jew quota was closed. Now the discrimination (if it exists) is not blatant and open.
kaganas………..
I find your OP offensive and condescending.
I find nothing unfortunate about my support for and intention to vote for Secretary Clinton to be the next President of the US.
I am a Democrat
I am an elected member of local government
I am on my municipality’s Democratic Town Committee (in CT that also means city)
I am a State delegate.
I think Trump acts like a buffoon and brings down the image of America all over the world. He is a failed businessman, who stiffs working people. He is an adulterer who is thrice married and I don’t want Melania living in the White House. He does not understand foreign policy, he cannot get along with others. His ‘my way or the highway’ attitude will not work in government, we don’t need a dictator.
I have known both Clintons since they were in Law School at Yale more than 45 years ago. They have amazing intellect, are able to work well with those across the aisle and fell she will continue the nation’s rebuilding from the GW Bush recession/depression of 2007/8.
I have had the misfortune of business dealings with Donald Trump. He tried to buy some properties owned by a trust I administer years ago. His word was not reliable and we walked away.
I personally would pay more taxes under a Clinton administration that under plans proposed by Trump. BUT it is not all about me. It is what is best for America and its citizens in the long run.
Trump attracts haters and that is not good for the Jews. This weekend he held a rally within 15 minutes of my home. He attracted white supremacist supporters holding banners stating “Diversity = White Genocide” We as Jews know far too well about genocide (that rally was actually on the 9th of Av). We are a minority that has benefited from the protections of liberal Supreme Court decisions in the application of the Bill of Rights. Mr. Trump wants to build a wall to keep people out. Don’t forget that wall will also keep people in…if you know your history the name for the enclosure is GHETTO.
My family arrived in the USA in 1868. We have fought hard (yes including in the US army in the Spanish American War, World Wars 1&2, Korea and Viet Nam)and domestically to attain social equality, the civil rights act that lets you live where you choose, not be denied employment because of religious beliefs, get prayer out of public schools, etc.
Trump’s policies and beliefs will set us back 100+ years. Don’t sell out for the perceived ‘make us great again’ nonsense. America is Great. We don’t need a return to the 1950s when most of us would not be welcome in most of America.
Joseph………….
Maybe that is because she does have an expensive sheitel………….LOL