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Are you doing a research project on this?
Feedback from where?
So, what did you end up doing?
Oomis is a cranky old biddy (I’m just following her directive to call her that: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/earplugs?replies=63#post-70558).
She’s 100% correct, though, and if it were me, I’d find a new shul to daven in.
As far as the OP, the rabbi’s behavior is beyond me. What would he do if he were a surgeon, bring the baby to the OR? I don’t think a regular mispallel should bring his child to shul either, even it means davening b’yichidus. I’m talking about men, kol shekein women who don’t have a chiyuv to daven b’tzibbur anyhow.
When someone starts a discussion (on the CR, a “thread”) about a tragic fire and how we should relate to it in terms of ruchniyus, and someone’s first or only reaction is about smoke detectors and hot plates, that person (in this case a couple of posters) can’t help but come across as minimizing the mussar aspect of it.
I also don’t think one needs to know “the” point to see that someone else has missed it. We all need to look at our own shortcomings (not everyone else’s) and try to improve. If someone fails to to do this, he or she has indeed missed the point.
And yes, we should all have working smoke detectors and exercise extreme caution with fire.
Shopping, someone deciding and taking upon themselves to improve their kavana in davening, or to do mitzvos with more hislahavus, has also made a kabala.
I will not express a personal opinion because I did not do my own research. People have told me that R’ Chaim Kanievsky was not presented with the correct set of facts. Why don’t you email the author of that article and see how he responds to that question?
I do know of some well known poskim who recommend being machmir, but I don’t know of any who actually say it’s assur (I do know some lesser known who do).
I have not heard of anyone who tested and found a problem with anything besides Tropicana.
Gamanit, I agree.
It’s everyone’s choice to remain cynical or to be positive. In my opinion, ahavas Yisroel is best expressed by being positive.
http://beta.hebrewbooks.org/shas.aspx?mesechta=27&daf=3b&format=pdf
See ?????? as well, and ????”? on the ‘??.
While Torah was cooking her broth,
she shrieked upon seeing a moth!
It was quite a quandary,
until she though of laundry,
so she smothered it with a burp cloth.
I know it’s not true, because Rabbi Tendler told me he was there when it didn’t happen.
So let me get this straight – it is socially irresponsible to tell everyone that vaccines are a cause of autism, yet you started a thread to suggest to everyone that vaccines are a cause of autism?
Hashem doesn’t really experience any emotions the way we do. We express His way of dealing with us in terms of emotion – joy, anger, and sadness, for example, so I suppose we could express certain hanhogos as humor, although I can’t really think of examples. He certainly has a “sense” of humor in terms of understanding it and giving us the ability to be humorous.
Or maybe you weren’t making a point about autism, rather about vaccines and correlation/causation.
TLIK, thank you. I will try to look through it later.
I’ll tell you now what I expect to find: some poskim who say it’s assur, some attempts to show that even R’ Moshe would be chozer given today’s knowledge, and coming away that it’s indeed a terrible thing to smoke, that many poskim do indeed asser but unconvinced about what R’ Moshe would hold.
Ubiquitin, I wasn’t trying to imply that you have actually mocked anyone.
I think it’s reasonable to assume that someone on an anti-shul campaign has a malicious agenda. I don’t think that about all/most anti-vaxxers, I think they’re being swayed by anecdotal evidence and emotion.
It is a mitzvah to mock people whose agenda is anti-Torah. I don’t think it’s a mitzvah to mock anti-vaxxers.
Stam a deya, there’s a lot of misinformation online. I’ll leave it to professionals whose business it is to research the studies to determine the proper course of action. All of the ones I’ve spoken to, with whom I have a personal relationship and I trust, are in favor of vaccination.
My point wasn’t that I have personal knowledge of studies; my point was to discount your anecdote.
If the yeshiva world will value middos and tzniyus for its own sake instead of “frummer than thou” status, girls will respond and naturally wear more tzniyus items.
From my perspective, the “yeshiva world” (which admittedly has no precise definition) does value middos and tzniyus, and the girls in large part do dress and act more b’tznius.
Of course, there’s an element of “no true Scotsman” here, because tznius is very much part of the culture we call “yeshivish”.
Just a coincidence, right? How foolish of them…..
It might or might not be a coincidence. That can’t be determined by one or two cases. You’d need a study comparing an unvaccinated group to a vaccinated group.
You would also have to control for other factors.
For an honest mistake, I wouldnt make fun.
What about a case where someone’s judgement is clouded by personal experience? Would you make fun of of someone who has an autistic child who claims, even through selective sourcing, that it’s caused by vaccines? Or, in that case, would you simply address the actual argument?
TLIK, where can one see those references?
So you can give the poor kid outside the Beis Zonos a sack of money to tie around his neck presuming he’ll use it on food?
Are you seriously making that comparison? I can give you four chilukim off the top of my head; there may be more.
‘Dei Machsoro’ (this is not translated as luxuries). This probably does not include feeding an addiction
It does include luxuries, actually, if he’s accustomed to them. I’m not sure why it shouldn’t include an addiction.
A doctor told someone I know that one cigarette a day will not harm him.
I wonder if for this reason, there’s no lifnei iver on giving a cigarette or match. Even if we assume it’s assur to smoke, it’s the totality of the habit/lifestyle which is dangerous and assur, not any individual cigarette.
It’s a good idea to have the aveilim go to the bimah, so they can synchronize Kaddish. As far as speed, I agree with LC, although each shul will have its standard.
In one shul I’ve been to, the minhag used to be for each to recite Kaddish from his place, until there were two aveilim who were at different speeds, so the Rav asked them to go to the bimah, and they were able to say Kaddish in sync.
Yes, but I’m not a computer programmer, so I don’t know how that mechanism works. It’s not understandable to me.
It might, though. For example, I usually find that when I click “Send”, my post goes up. That’s correlation. Is there also causation? Can it be proven?
OTOH, the fire department does not recommend against driving a car or crossing the street despite the dangers in both of them.
Do you think the fire department made a study comparing the relative risks of each and determined that hot plates are more dangerous than those?
Is it safe to travel in a car? Is it safe to cross the street?
CA, yes, but whether or not something constitutes lifnei iver is not always so pashut.
On my computer keyboard, I have Hebrew stickers. On my Android device, I use Google keyboard with Hebrew turned on.
LG, it’s true that one of the issurim involved only applies to men, but it’s still prohibited for women.
JT, it’s not so difficult to type a few letters in Hebrew. BTW, it’s also mentioned in ??”? ?”?.
Why besides ?”?, ?”??
I’m guessing you’re home for Pesach.
No
Also, I agree with yehudayona.
This has nothing to do with frum people.
Merely crude language may not be assur, but nivul peh, where a certain subject is discussed gratuitously, is assur.
Wow, weird.
It’s got its own nusach.
A blech is a ????, required for ???? and some forms of ???-?. It is filling the role of ???? ????? mentioned in the ???? (specifically, ????).
It is sometimes required, sometimes a ??????, and almost always a good idea.
Covering the knobs is a further ???? not to raise the fire.
??? ????? is not affected by a blech.
That’s because I don’t think I agree with it (and I edited, but I think I like my misspelling better).
If you didn’t think Chazal were talking to donors you never should have quoted them.
I read your posts, possibly misunderstood them (certainly if there were hidden discworld references).
SDD must think I’m an out of style yeshiva guy.
(I was actually going to look for the post PAA linked to, but he beat me to it.)
Of course I believe it, the same way I believe ????? ????? ????? ??????, ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????, yet we try to raise our kids to do mitzvos, not aveiros. (How many more examples do I need)?
Chazal were not giving license to withhold tzedakah to increase Torah.
Google “David Saffra Nachum Saffra”. Several results down, there’s their site, which is merely a PDF describing their operation.
They are very straightforward, actually, about the idea that their entire appeal is that they don’t charge a lot.
Mashgichim cost money. You get what you pay for.
Also,
What is [their] expertise in kashrus?
Why is his point moot?
His point is in fact the main point to counteract your argument. Nowhere does it say that it’s up to us decide that someone should be poor for his benefit. That’s only up to the Ribono Shel Olam.
A person receives great schar if he’s insulted without responding (?????? ????? ??????). Should I therefore go around insulting people to give them the opportunity? (I know you could make a technical differentiation between shev v’al ta’aseh and kum va’aseh, but the hashkafah is correct). Penina was wrong, and punished, even though she was l’shem shomayim. And, if you think anyone withholds from Adopt a Kollel l’shem shomayim, I’ll throw in the Verrazano at half price.
Yes
Who’s more upset at you, your husband, or the neighbors? (Or the moth?)
I’m just glad I don’t live in Boston (if, in fact, I don’t live in Boston).
APY: Convenient target. No one wants to blame themselves.