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No, it’s still not your cheshbon to tell someone else to live b’dachkus (or even to think that way). That’s called achzarius. Yes, someone should be willing to live in poverty to be able to learn, but Chazal were obviously not saying this as an excuse to withhold tzedakah from poor talmidei chachomim; aderaba, as I’ve mentioned and sourced (Ahavas Chessed from the Chofetz Chaim), it is the highest use of tzedakah money.
As an aside, R’ Chaim Ozer is quoted (Artscroll’s “Reb Chaim Ozer”, pg. 111) as (humorously) explaining the gemara in Nedarim (.?”?) which says ????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ???? that it’s because they don’t have seforim.
So maybe you should go around stealing everyone’s seforim. 🙂
RY23, I would say early to mid 90s.
RebYidd23, do you mean this?
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/im-anti-zionist-now/page/2#post-560064
The main reason it’s ridiculous is because you’re saying it on others’ cheshbon.
The other reason it’s ridiculous is because regardless of misplaced idealism, the reality is that someone can learn better without financial strain. No one without an agenda would fail to realize this, and no matter how well I explain (and there are certainly many far more eloquent than I), I won’t convince someone who doesn’t want to be convinced.
Gavra, that’s ridiculous, and you know it.
Why are the other husbands looking?
They’re human beings with a yetzer hora.
If the rabbanim want the women to dress more tzniusly, they should talk to the men about shmiras einayim
They want both, and many do in fact talk about shmiras einayim.
Men shouldn’t use how women dress as an excuse to not practice shmiras einayim, and women shouldn’t use men not overcoming their yetzer hora as an excuse to be machshil them.
Summary: R’ Moshe mentions a chashash sakanah, R’ Tzvi Pesach Frank and R’ Nissim Karelitz do not. When quoting the ??? ???, the ?????? ??? qualifies the he was referring to a case where there is none. It is apparently not assumed that every case of an open gas burner is automatically a sakana.
The ?? ??? gives two, possibly three reasons to be mattir.
1) Rotating a knob is not considered ?????.
2) It is ??? ??????? ?????? ????? ????
3) ??? ?? ???, but he is ????? if it applies where you’re not being ????? the ???.
??? ??? is mattir because of ??? ?? ???, but does assume it’s ?????. It seems he holds it’s ????? ???? ?????, not ??? ??????? ??????, so ????? ???? does not apply.
Bottom line: muttar, but not nearly as pashut as some indicated.
?? ??? on this shailah (I haven’t finished reading it yet):
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=20947&st=&pgnum=212&hilite=
R’ Moshe says there is an issue of muktzeh, is mattir anyway, but recommends a shinui.
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=920&st=&pgnum=142&hilite=
I know you didn’t want to get into the “correctness” of a particular derech, but it should be noted that one who hasn’t mastered certain gemara skills will be missing something in his understanding of halacha. Although single/married is an artificial line (which isn’t strictly adhered to anyhow), there’s a reason it’s not the norm to focus on halacha when younger.
Oomis, the pot is a kli rishon if it’s been on the fire (and still hot) no matter how many layers may be between the pot and the flame.
When the contents of the pot are poured into another vessel, that vessel is considered a kli sheini.
When the contents of the kli sheini are then poured into another container, that container is a kli shlishi.
Example: you have water in a kettle, on a flame or blech (or two, or three…). It’s a kli rishon. If you pour water from the kettle into a mug, that mug is a kli sheini. If you pour water from the mug into a cup, the cup is a kli shlishi.
Yybc, that depends if there’s an electronic ignition which turning the knob activates.
Barry, really now, if you told that fellow that pikuach nefesh docheh Shabbos, he’d say, “Wow, I never knew that! I really should have taken my grandfather to the hospital when he had a heart attack on Shabbos instead of letting him die! Thanks for the info! Now I’ll know for next time!”??
It was lack of seichel, not lack of halachic knowledge.
I doubt you are correct, but if you are, it is because nobody wants it.
Of course it’s lack of demand. Most bochurim want to focus on iyun, and as I said, even guys who want to do their own thing have some leeway within the regular yeshiva schedule.
Agav, if you “doubt” I am correct, that means you are indeed unaware of such yeshivas, otherwise you would know that I am incorrect.
Barry, no shaychus to not knowing halachah. Every cheder yingele knows that sakana is docheh Shabbos.
Popa and ubiquitin, maybe we’re reading the complaint differently. VM seems to be saying that 95% of bochurim aren’t being dealt with properly, and that’s just not the case under any normal definition.
About bad puns or misunderstandings I do shudder.
Google “nadler quality services brooklyn”.
Did you try Nadler?
Many (even most) yeshivas in the charedi world do not tolerate even harmless activities that are not learning.
I’m sorry that that’s your experience, but it’s not mine.
What does learning halacha have to do with “personal expression?”
It’s what HaLeiVi referred to as “?? ???? ???”.
If you don’t like the way your yeshiva learns, find a different one.
Do you know of many yeshivish for younger bochurim which focus on Halacha? I don’t.
My issue with the OP is the contention that he was a masmid, but couldn’t find time for ?”?, ????, and ??????. Granted, Halacha seder in most yeshivish is short (and not as well attended as other sedorim), but there is a bekius Seder, and for someone who learns night seder and bein hasedorim, plenty of time for extra limudim.
Popa, it wasn’t any better when he wasn’t. Although, it is kind of illustrative of the fact that the problem is not merely unacceptable standards.
All foul language is bad. Some is assur, I guess it depends on which type.
Oomis, that’s a very dangerous misuse of terminology. It’s still a kli rishon.
Did anyone else attend?
Apparently, 12,999 other girls attended as well.
Chicago is the one with the list.
Is the cRc reliable? Is Kosherquest reliable? Is the CR reliable? Is your rav reliable? Did you ask your rav what to do in a case where you have a question you don’t want to ask him? Did you ask your rav if he’s reliable?
In fact, you can hear that right here in the CR! (Should I link popa’s thread?)
They really are exempt before they’re married.
We pasken the chiyuv is to daven twice a day.
The cRc does have a list of acceptable (to them) hechsherim.
Charlie, the Mechaber and Rema clearly assered, the only machlokes is whether a community which has a minhag to be meikil (not relevant to us) may or may not continue to do so.
I’m talking about establishments owned and run by people with no halachic ne’emanus.
Are you really making such an argument?
No, I’m actually making the same argument you are, that if there is no actual supervision, a certificate is generally worthless.
LF, finish the sentence. I am not asking your advice for you to tell me what to do.
It’s fine, it’s just not helpful. We don’t know you, and you don’t know us, so taking our approaches into account is not really any better than flipping a coin to make your decision.
DaMoshe: They are also known for supervising establishments such as bakeries and cafeterias.
Sam: Let’s say an establishment sells products which require, at the least, yotzei v’nichnas, but the mashgiach never shows up. Would you still consider it an “eid echad”?
Plumber, I would never rely on that hechsher, but it’s not any less kosher than something without a hechsher, about which you can’t technically say “it’s not kosher”, unless you are referring specifically to a non kosher item.
Take, for example, a deli with Tablet K bagels. While I consider it highly irresponsible to allow a kashrus certificate to be hung in an establishment serving Boar’s Head, and I would certainly not eat the bagels, I dont think you can say with certainty that they’re treif.
That’s Rabbi Rafael Saffra a”h.
Not reliable. Thanks, golfer (although to nitpick, the other option was that no, nobody here knows).
No
It’s not a good idea to smoke. In fact, it’s a very bad idea.
Words have the meaning we give to them
As a society, yes, but when you start using words in an abnormal manner, meaning in a way which most people don’ generally use them, you get the reaction this thread engendered. (pun intended).
I think “do you get an aveirah” is another thread you should read with your class.
It’s a moshol!
Zionism used to be quite infectious and destroyed many lives. Thanks to increased education, it’s b”H been almost eradicated, and only the less virulent strain now remains.
You never really said that you actually say it…
In fact, though, I stole your joke:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/shelo-asani-isha#post-302605
If your wife made public statements, and then a newspaper called to ask you if you agreed with them, just what would you respond?
“No comment.”
When popa says shelo asani goy and then shelo asani isha, is it a bracha l’vatala?
Akuperma, of course we don’t “need” a reason besides Hashem’s command, but when meforshim offer “mita’amei hamitzvos” or the like, it’s part of Torah and we have a right to ask in order to try as best we can to understand.
My not underatanding has nothing to do with contemporary women’s roles. I just don’t see how the reason fits with some of the mitzvos.
For example, one of the reasons tefillin is considered shehaz’man grama is because there’s no chiyuv on Shabbos. How does that make it harder to find time during the week?
I never understood that reason.
You can’t put semantics aside. That’s the main debate here. If everyone would agree to a single definition of “aveirah”, we would all be in agreement.
Smoking causes lung cancer in a minority of smokers.
Movies cause neshomo cancer in all viewers.
no overtly pritzisdick themes
Subtle pritzus is okay for you?