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☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
Then I won’t be able to find the thread.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe kesubah is a monetary contract between two parties. The man, among other things, obligates himself to provide financial support for his wife. If she wishes, she can forgive (temporarily or permanently) this obligation. This is what occurs in the vast majority of kollel families.
The kesubah is NOT some type of religious obligation to work which would obligate the husband regardless of the wife’s wishes.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNeither
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOk, an October baby did well, that debunks the whole theory.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou still don’t get it.
One word: mechilah.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWritersoul, I don’t understand why you don’t get that six year olds will suffer self esteem issues by being lumped with seven year olds.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantKooljew, they could have lit by the doorway to the house also. The point is that the minhag was to do the mitzvah a particular way, and since tzniyus proscribed women from performing the mitzvah that way, they didn’t adopt a different way, since they weren’t obligated to.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBump
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantFTR, that would completely backfire, because if you’re really separating them because the older kids will do better, once the classes are separated, the older kids will continue to do better and the gap will only get even bigger.
I think the theory is that the weaker kids will only feel inferior to their classmates.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDepends on your service area.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDaasYochid; you are certainly referring to another thread snd my comments about the shulchan aruch.
Indeed, especially since R’ Yosef Karo disagrees with the Ramba”m you refer to.
It’s fair to assume that he (as well as all who disagreed with that Ramba”m) are aware of the concept of kesubah. I’ll leave you to figure out why using the kesubah in this context is utter folly.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI’d rather live in a country that doesn’t date mine
Oh, you want your country all to yourself?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBoy, that was quick.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHow does your sister also make you nuts?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI could continue with the Rambam and what he writes about the ones who earn money from their learning
Is that in Shulchan Aruch?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantPopa , I did try to leave a zecher of your vandalism, but yossiea took it out.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTrader Joe’s has kosher wine?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJfem, when I interpreted “dumb, boring, and absolutely ridiculous” as referring to the girls, I was kidding.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIt tells you nothing about the person at all! They are dumb, boring, and absolutely ridiculous.
It doesn’t say that about them, either.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTS, they appreciate your additional, free advertising.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe point is that they would light on their own, except that since they would light outside in a common chatzer, it would be a tzniyus issue.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNow I did.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI didn’t fix the cross reference.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSam, they are yotzei with their husbands rather than being mekayem ner l’chol echad.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhy is it that alcohol is served to the men and not the women?
You probably wouldn’t be too thrilled if I answered that it’s because ???? ???? ????.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMZ, I think we’d be okay with one day of socializing and everyone finding a shidduch that day.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJfem, you are assuming that on a large scale, men and women who are dating are not displaying their true personalities, and this is causing then not to marry.
I think you’re misinformed in both counts.
Most young men and women who don’t socialize outside of shidduchim get over their awkwardness after a couple of dates. A good shadchan will usually be able to prevent any initial awkwardness from derailing a good potential shidduch.
Also, within a year or two of beginning the shidduch process, the vast majority of singles (especially boys) are married, certainly, it seems, at a much higher rate than those who do socialize outside of shidduchim.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo why do we follow the minhag when it comes to kiddush levana, but not to other outdoor gatherings?
Maybe we should.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJfem, there is definitely geder of tznius involved, which is why certain minhagim developed as they did, such as women not performing kiddush levanah and hadlokas ner Chanukah. “Cannot” implies issur, and it might be hanhagah tovah.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIt’s not just walking outside, it’s a gathering.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantPopa, quick! Before your edit window expires, add the
</em>!☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhether to support Rav Stav or not is not a halachic matter.
Of course it is.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhen dealing with Chilonim (and I mean non-religious people as opposed to anti-religious) you have to treat them differently.
We should allow them to produce mamzerim (whose grandchildren might marry mine and yours)?
Anyhow, my point was that all Jews have a vested interest in how the Rabbanut us run. If you disagree with how it’s run, that’s a separate discussion.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantROB, let’s talk about the subject of the letter, which you think is “mili d’alma”.
Chacham Ovadiah denigrated R’ Stav. To me, his accepting the information he heard, and publicizing it (and whether the toeles is enough to justify it), fall under the category of hilchos loshon hora. Do you disagree?
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☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantJfem, what consequences do you think we suffer because on shidduch dates, supossedly, they are “not themselves”?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat would make them even pickier.
Besides, the shmorgs are already mixed. 😉
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDoesn’t ring a bell. But I’d bet this one wasn’t Amudai Shaish. 😉
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think a big part of it is that boys are too picky.
And you think seating them with women at weddings will cure that?
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIf the Haredim don’t hold by the Rabbanut, why do they insist on controlling its policies and putting their preferred pet candidates in office?
Because, in fact, the status if the marriages, divorces, and conversions of thousands of Jews lay in their hands.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDaasYochid, that’s RABBI Tendler to you!
No, it isn’t, and not because of his affiliation with MO.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantFelt, wheras most American chareidim respect R’ Willig and R’ Schachter as talmidei chachomim, even while not considering them their leaders, the same cannot be said for Tendler.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantZD and RD, it was a joke.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI think Jfem was assering (TIC) Big Gulps as a sakana.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhat are suggestions you all would have on keeping costs down?
The first thing I would cut out is my subscription to the Forward.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant$200,000 is not so ridiculus…
Yeshiva tutions can really eat up your salaries.
You probably missed where I said it’s ridiculous if you don’t count tuition for a large family.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantEven with all of rebdoniel’s “necessities”, 200k is a ridiculous number.
☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAlso, MO tuition is much higher.
☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant200k is a gross exaggeration, unless you’re counting tuition for a large family.
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