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And I’ve got one regarding molestation where zdad “truly believe
The aguda would have done even less than they are doing now if they were not shamed into at least admitting there was so issue.”In all honestly, this didn’t originate from ZD. I believe some of the Agudah “bigwigs” said the same. It may have even been the Noveminsker (but I don’t recall).
It is a positive to be in a controlled mixed environment. But then again, I wasn’t asking my shver for life support.
Adios?
Picking up garbage from the street for 30 days might do her some good. Jail is just a paid vacation.
“More so, your “Gedolim” insist on taking the money!!”
Very disrespectful. Do you have different “gedolim”? I’d like to know who they are?
Hopefully. As I discussed earlier, any “Gadol” who worships money and is willing to give up on their principles for the sake of money is not a Gadol at all. There are many graduates of JTS who also know how to learn, but that doesn’t make them “Gedolim”. Rabbi Avi Weiss has a large following like a Chassidish Rebbe, but that doesn’t make him a “Gadol” either.
As for a list, we can start with Rabbi Miller ZTL. Rav Chaim Kanievsky in EY as well (he is NOT a Posek (as he admits himself), but is a “Gadol”).
Properties are tiny and it results in a sever lack of the type of tznius not taught in most Bais Yaakovs.
This. I am aware of too many “bungalow colony” type stories. Many aspects of a Yiddishe family are meant to be private between the husband & wife, not the yentas who stand outside in their complexes and watch who passes by.
He didn’t turn down his pension.
Mah Kesher? The money for the work done prior was not the issue, but rather Rav Elyashiv’s implicit acquiescence to the P’sak (which as a Gadol, he felt needed a Mach’ah).
mdd: depends if they are real or fake. I don’t see Rav Chaim or Rav Elyashiv “selling out” and taking the money. In fact, Rav Elyashiv quit rather than approve the Gerus questions of Rabbi Goren.
Likud is NOW looking into a coalition between Shas, YH, the Mizrachy Bennett (BY), T. Livny and Kadima.
We should be so lucky. Let’s see what happens.
yael.e:
So why do you take anythong now? More so, your “Gedolim” insist on taking the money!!
Let’s see what happens.
ZD: Mode may be twenty (no stats), with the mean up to $100. I know people who hand out $500 checks to those yeshivos who regularly come to their homes on Purim.
This is why I don’t even have questionable Smicha. I don’t want anyone to insult me by calling me Rabbi (CV).
Now GAVRA is a Choshive title. Gavra is used many times in Shas, probably more than any other title.
(I believe this is a repeat)
RBS.Jew: Your government passed the silly law. Whose fault is that? If you don’t like it, pass a new law.
DY: Thanks.
As a dati Leumi Israeli taxpayer, I would like to ask..why should my government give kollel families anything? My nephews and grandsons, learn, serve and work…
You may not want to. However, you are (or were) willing to sell for seats in the Knesset.
Gaw- i noticed the shift. for a while i thought it was sarcasm but its seems i was wrong. darn. you were fun to hahndle with. and you could take a joke.
Have no fear. Once we get back to silly things like 4 inches & Tznius, I’ll go back.
(as a side note, I used to be more on the side of the “less chumras” members of the board. These days, I’m finding myself agreeing to the “more Chumras” side more often than not. Perhaps it is because the discussions have been Halachic, not chumra.)
“They do not give you an E for effort in an University. A good Effort but a D grade gets you the door and no more money “
Anu Amailim V’Hem Amailim.
(as a side note, I used to be more on the side of the “less chumras” members of the board. These days, I’m finding myself agreeing to the “more Chumras” side more often than not. Perhaps it is because the discussions have been Halachic, not chumra.)
Veltz Meshugenner: I don’t care if you come up with self-serving textualist arguments to avoid giving money to poor non-Jews, it’s still a bad thing to do.
GAW: (Comes up with self-serving argument to avoid giving money to poor non-Jews.)
To quote Senator D’Amato: “Hopelessly liberal”.
I assume you would say the same for ritual animal slaughter, genocide of Amalek, levirate marriage, and the quaint idea of giving the firstborn son double, while the girls get nothing. Just because you “think” it is “bad”. As I said earlier, your real argument is:
What in the world was G-d thinking? Couldn’t He be somewhat more liberal?
“Besides, even a 1.0 Torah student is protecting Klal Yisroel as much as a 4.0 Torah student. It isn’t results or test marks that count. It is effort”
This.
What about the frum guy who stands in the old city begging for money with a sign but you see him roaming around with his galaxy s3? i think its better to give the parkinsons ridden goy who asks you for a hotdog from annies than the frum guy with the sign in the old city.
Agreed. At least by one of them you are doing Tikun Olam. (I don’t know what Annie’s is, but use “Yankels” as an example).
It takes a uniquely bad person to think that he’s being good by refusing to give charity to a non-Jew.
I know, the Torah is so antiquated (CV). This is from the Rambam AZ 10:7, but it is one of the Mitzvos.
????? ???? ??? ????? ????, ??? ???? ??? ??? ????–????? “??? ??? ?????? ?????? ?????, ?? ???? ??????” (????? ??,??): ??????, ?? ??????.
What in the world was G-d thinking? Couldn’t He be somewhat more liberal?
DY and GAW, what you’re saying is completely illogical. When you give out large sums of money in small increments to different people, that is not the same as giving a large amount of money to one person or cause, and it wouldn’t be reasonable to do research for each individual person.
“When you give out large sums of money in small increments”. I assume you mean giving small amounts many times? Perhaps that is not what you should be doing. It certainly is not an excuse to not be Bodek as per Halacha.
OTB: The bus owners facilitate and encourage the minyan. If you dont like it, feel free to drive.
I actually agree with Joe here.
I guess gaw holds that Rav Scheinberg was a “Chasside Shoite” all the times he davened with a minyan on an airplane.
Interesting, Joe, source?
Well, while you’re explaining things, explain me this – why is Harry Potter so much more well-known than Discworld, when Discworld is CLEARLY A BILLION KAJILLION FRILLION TIMES MORE AWESOME THAN ANYTHING JK WILL EVER WRITE ARGGHHHHHH
Rowling wrote for children, Pratchett writes for adults. Getting a child to read anything in the electronic age is a Neis Nigleh.
he/she wasn’t talking about significant sums of money.
There are plenty of beggars around, and it adds up, especially for someone with very limited funds.
Every red cent that you give to someone unworthy means that cent is not going to someone worthy.
But more disturbingly, can praying on a bus really engender an atmosphere of “Da Lifnei Mi Atto Omed”? Can any rational person really envision himself standing in front of a King? whilst on a fast moving bus, watching his balance etc.
I’m not a Posek, but why is this any different than davening on an airplane? Most Poskim hold (and do L’maase)(I don’t know of any who disagree) to daven in your seat without a minyan, but the “Chasside Shoite” feel they know better than the Gedolim and need to make a Matza Minyan, next to the bathrooms.
Confucious: I don’t see that in the article. I guess we will see what happens. The state knows that the Charaidim will be happy to go to jail for their beliefs, so jail is no deterrent.
“Learning supports Joes. Serving in the Joe army supports the Trolls. Working in the Joe economy does much the same. It’s not a matter for personal choice.”
Now I understand why there are so many of you!
Care to tell me from which Jewish practice transubstantiation comes from?
I like a challenge.
Simple. Wine is because Jesus “changes” the water into Wine. Water was changed into blood during the Makka of Dam. So wine changes into Blood.
Kimono, kimono, kimono. Ha! Of course! Kimono is come from the Greek word himona, is mean winter. So, what do you wear in the wintertime to stay warm? A robe. You see: robe, kimono. There you go!
(I would put a smiley, but I don’t want to be a flirt)
Meaning what difference does it make to being a Ben Torah if they learn 5 years before getting married at 27 or five years afterwards getting married at 22? (Popa’s question).
Besides, as I have said in the past, the Baal Habatim in my area are known to be Talmidei Chachamim, and are more “Beni Torah” than the local Kollel members in many aspects (and that does not disparage the Kollel. They just aren’t on the same level).
Our girls have been educated to feel proud if their husband is a serious ben Torah, instead of being proud if their husband is a successful businessman.
What does that have to do with Kollel?
The Brisk that hates the Medina and only speaks Yiddish
Yup, that one. They only let you sit in the room for shiur after a waiting period?
@GAW 😉
PumFakert! The “wink” of the semicolon makes it more flirtatious! Dos iz a Rayah that it has to be something else.
I don’t see the problem. Read R’ Shafran’s article on CC for more info.
You are typing a smiley face to me which in the real world is flirtatious, yet you do it.
I didn’t know that. In the CR, it has been posted that a smiley means that you are making a joke, meaning he doesn’t actually expect you to vomit in public.
I will try to remember that. How would someone point out that they are making a joke?
They are not Yerushalmis either, they just live there and go to Brisk
Which Brisk (there are a few)? Brisk (depending on which one, IIRC) is practically an American Yeshiva. Had you told me Ponevitch, then I might agree.
That’s just it. After the 5 year grace period Yesh Atid wants to force us into the army.
No such animal. Once again:
Those who refuse to serve will forfeit all government funding with the exception of basic social security.
No one is talking about “forcing” anyone else. You simply do not get the benefits of government funding.
This is true. Your relatives are fauxreidim.
We really need a “like” button.
“They dont wear streimels, they are not Chassidic”
Real Yerushalmi Charaidim wear straimels, even though they are not Chassidish.
As I said, your relatives are FAKE Charaidim.
Confucious: Check it out from Yesh Atid’s platform (on their website):
Yesh Atid’s plan for “equal service for all,” not only aims to solve the problem in a systematic manner, but, in doing so, also takes into account the needs and sensibilities of the ultra-orthodox population . In fact, ultra-orthodox were involved in formulating the plan. The Yesh Atid plan states plainly and simply: For the next five years, open the doors for 18-year-old ultra-orthodox young men to go to work with no requirement to serve. During those five years the National Authority for Civilian Service will identify the differing needs throughout Israeli society and arrange to address those needs by harnessing those who will enter National Service after the initial five year period. Furthermore, during those five years, a payment plan will be established for combat soldiers who serve for a full three years.
During those five years, the army will develop programs to facilitate the service of much larger numbers of ultra-orthodox citizens to serve in the army, and national service models will be created to be specifically geared to the needs of the ultra-orthodox (and Arab) populations. These options will include serving in hospitals and homes for the elderly, enhancing the security of neighborhoods in conjunction with the police, assisting Magen David Adom/Hatzalah/ZAKA, and providing much-needed support in educational institutions with a focus on easing the burden of those engaged in special education.
Sounds reasonable to me. No jail for dissent, work right away, programs to facilitate the needs of Charaidim and Arabs. This could have been something that a pro-Charadi Rov wrote.
If I were to put a positive spin on it, I would say that it’s simply because she wants the z’chus of financially supporting his learning. My cynical side tells me that it’s so she can boast of her husband in kollel (which isn’t the worst thing someone can boast about).
Silly girls should support other girls’ husbands in Kollel.
The chiloni Israeli government is NOT giving us a choice (even under the new proposals to change the law) of going to work without going through army service.
IIRC, that was exactly what Lapid suggested. A five year break, where Charaidim could legally join the workforce at 18.
Their parents are charedim
All Americans are Fake Charaidim, with Fake beards, and faux fur Straimels. Every real Yerushalmi knows this.
We’re all playing house on the L-rd’s dime.
Amen!!!!! Praise the L-rd and pass the ammunition!
FYI, Rav Moshe has a Teshuva (can’t remember where) that specificly says the term L-rd is the Shem Hashem in English.
The family members of mine who are in Kollel in Israel have jet-setted back and forth between Israel and the US more times that I have , They do it at least a year, if not more
Because they are “playing house”, just like anyone else being supported by Mommy & Daddy. There is no comparison to a real Benei Braker.
Next thing you will tell me is that they live in Arzei, Ramat Eshkol, Maalot Dafna or one of the other “play house” communities. Maybe Mommy and Daddy bought them a house in Beitar or Ramat Bais Shemesh (which is a good investment, and still under Mommy’s name).
I don’t see anyone complaining about crowds standing up for the Kallah (another goyish import).
1: Everyone wants to see.
2: Mechabdin Ovdei Mitzva, just like those who brought Bikkurim. We can only hope the Chassan is a Talmid Chacham.