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Huju, the Gemara refers to the game of Nardshir, as is a good mind stimulant. Rashi explains this as Chess.
The assumption is that it is a reference to the Persian king, Ardshir, who might have picked up the game from India.
Wait. So maybe the Matanos that Avraham Avinu sent along with those he sent eastward was a new set of games.
The mistake is to think that Yeshiva is where you learn anything you’d ever need to learn. No. Yeshiva is where you are taught the skills to be able to learn on your own.
Most Yeshivos do teach some Nach, so that we get to know and recognize what it is all about. And then the focus is on Gemara, Gemara in depth, Halacha (maybe not enough), and a sprinkling of Hashkafa. These are things that require being taught and require spending time, especially youthful time.
Whenever you have the time to do so, please do learn Nach. A friend of mine had this idea that whenever a Gemara quoted a Pasuk from Nach he would look up the entire Perek. When I was in Kollel I began my day with first learning some Nach. No new skills required for that.
Oh, mosherose! Fun times.
“The poskim hundreds of years ago said that being meshalesh learning doesn’t apply nowadays, and that gemara takes priority, both because it is “balul mekulan””
That’s Tosafos.
When the early winter wave happened last year, it did go through our NY communities but not at pandemic levels. It got those who weren’t infected previously and a few of those who did. We all remember what the actual pandemic was like and that wasn’t it.
The fact that what we were being told (blamed, cautioned) flew in the face of what we knew for a fact, did not help in taking authorities seriously.
If the Wuhanvirus makes its way around here, I’d say it hit be much fewer than any previous time, and likely no casualties.
“What was foretold?”
That the conversation will follow along party lines, which is what makes it boring.
Yes. Listen closely:
mP mP mP P P. mP mP mP P PSyag, why would you be upset? It was foretold.
It’s at least as bad as not lighting a Menora by your second door.
You only look at it after Shabbos, and you don’t bat an eyelash at the fact that someone, whom you know lives in Eretz Yisroel, sent it earlier.
But scheduling is not all that common.
Kuvult, they were allowed to jot some personal notes down in order not to forget. It was not common, and was merely used as a self reminder. Never was it taught from text.
By the way, not just Chasidim, but anyone will gain by having a close connection to someone greater than him.
The natural tendency is to get comfortable where you are at, and to begin to feel that there is nowhere further to go. I’ve seen plenty of individuals who feel like they’re on top. When you get a glimpse of how much more there is to go, it will change you a lot.
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Ctrl Alt DelWhat exactly is not clear?
I’m asking “Added to what”, since you are implying that there was a Sefer that had to be re-edited each generation. But it wasn’t so.
Syag, sorry for the smug comment.
These things are always broken along party lines, and you see many rehashed points. There are many topics which I don’t check out. Here, it’s not the topic but rather the way it is bound to devolve.
“HaLeiVi, how can one newly start experiencing Chasidus?”
By joining a place. Most Chasidishe Sefarim stress having a close connection to a Tzaddik. Today, there are a lot of people who learn Chasidishe Sefarim and don’t have a Rebbe. It’s worth what it’s worth. But to really get the benefits of what it has to offer, would be to be a part of something alive.
This thread is going to get boring pretty fast.
“So people just added certain statements and opinions of Amoraim throughout the generations?”
Added? Added to what?
Every Jewish boy studied the Mishna, by repeating it (with a tune) until he knew it well. There was no Sefer Mishnayos. (That’s right. If you want to argue, start a new thread.) Once they knew the Mishnah they would join a Yeshiva and discuss everything they learned. They would lesrn.from their rebbes what the previous generations had to say, and what the Halachah is. They would learn how to interpret and resolve certain hard Mishnayos and Braysos.
Then, they would argue and discuss new issues that came up, as well as weighing previously given interpretations. Those that rose to the top and became Roshei Yeshiva would teach all this old and new material to the next generation.
Obviously, students of different rebbes would land up with different interpretations and even, at times, different versions of earlier statements (or, more commonly, different attributions).
Eventually, Rav Ashi along with Ravina made one coherent Talmud, incorporating and ironing out everything that was taught until then. After him, the next generation committed it to writing.
The next few generations, the רבנן סבוראי, edited it to give it one language, to fill in steps to make it easier to follow, added some Sugyos (i.e. beginning of Kedushin) and stuck in a few explanations.
The generations following that are the Geonim, who were mostly occupied with Halachah. They also had many points that were passed down and weren’t written in.
לקוטי דברים קדושים מאדמו”ר שליט”א
That is the publication of every single Chasidus, so I can’t go wrong.Seriously though, you cannot get good advice from someone who doesn’t know you. All you get here is that the one posting enjoys. Three are so many styles, angles and levels. But to really get Chasidus, it has to be experienced. It doesn’t really live in a book.
“AJ: It existed in unwritten form long before it was written.”
What AJ wrote answers the question.
Hmm. Maaras Ayin. Good point.
Why is a goy better? He’s more likely to actually think you did send it on Shabbos. The whole thing is meaningless to him. He knows you’re serious, but he’s open to finding out that you’d transgress when nobody is looking. That would be a Chillul Hashem.
“Why don’t you ask a Rov”
“ASK YOUR LOCAL RABBI:”What is it about Torah discussions that gets people upset?
Ask your local cook, doctor, politician, reporter, psychologist, Mashgiach, or open a Sefer. Now, you can close this down.
CTL: How many married grandchildren?
Also, what is your address, phone and email address?
What about soaking material in die over Shabbos?
What makes you say that Bomberg was a Ohev Yisrael? I would imagine he was a Ohev Betza.
Some points:
The words in this Medrash are indeed about the guy Eisav. For some reason, we’re all aware that this has been taken as a generality.
We all know there is such a thing as חסידי אומות העולם, and there’s no reason to think that it is a handful in a century. And if there are חסידי there are likely some that are just below that as well.
On the other hand, western cultured people are formal and know how to behave, but this doesn’t inform you what they’ll say in private. Sometimes it can come out after a long time.
In essence, it isn’t far from what we find that it is called Har Sinai because משם ירדה שנאה לעולם. We find in מסכת ע”ז the opposite: that there is a secret admiration. We do see that the world is obsessed with us, one way or the other. And so, we aren’t looked at passively. Most people have opinions about the Jews. Either we are respected or repulsed. It is often both. (Just like a man hates his conscience…)
While Europe is understood to be a continuation of Rome, and by extension a part of Eisav, America might be different. Baruch Hashem, we never had anything close to what our grandparents went through. And in Europe today you still feel the hate.
In closing, the term doesn’t have to be a general rule for all time, or has been taken that way by many and that’s how we are aware the quote, and it isn’t a large leap from what we find elsewhere.
The Sefer Habris writes that דרך חיים תוכחת מוסר can be taken to mean that Mussar should be given by way of Derech Chaim. In other words, the right kind of Chizuk is the best Mussar. Rabbi Chaim Palagi quotes this piece and praised it.
If it won’t be noticed by the other side, there shouldn’t be an issue.
Sancheriv didn’t go south of Egypt.
There’s no commandment to heed a curse of Noach. His curse came true, that they were kidnapped and sold. It was a disgusting thing to do, and indefensible, but perhaps that’s from Noach’s curse.
Or perhaps not. Only Canaan was cursed, and there’s no reason to think that includes a third of humanity.
True scientific racism reached its peak in the Nazi era. People were always xenophobic but not as a racial doctrine.
Even if you happen to subscribe to a particular race-based idea, we’ve seen that it’s just not worth it.
You can’t enforce people to love others. Laws are designed for practical race-based discrimination, but past that you would depend on societal norms. You want people to ignore the small differences and begin to relate to others as humans. To this end, what can be done is to begin from education, which is anyhow government controlled, and the media can play a big role as well.
I believe that the racial divide, as much as it exists, got amplified under Obama, since he would relentlessly hammer these ideas. What you are doing is to cement the differences.
Media broadcasters aren’t really there to play any role. Whatever they feel gets people excited they’ll talk about. Therefore, I doubt they would be the first to take the necessary steps to reverse the crystallization of the racial boundaries.
And yes, I think the same when they yell about every anti-Semitic incident. All you so is alienate people. It causes people to ‘other’ you much much more. If there’s violence it must be dealt with, but to keep yelling about antisemitism only helps it become “a thing”.
I don’t know why I’m bothering to type all this up when the thread will likely just disappear and all is for naught.
UJM, that’s the kind of taana you only use against someone you already don’t like.
Is that something you must believe?
Ujm, Pattur. Aval Assur?
No reason to think they won’t be spending a lot of their day learning, as well.
Harping on racism is the biggest cause of the racism divide.
“A better and more powerful”
When it comes to Divrei Torah and jokes, people have a strong urge to upend. “Oh, I heard it better…”. “I have a better Pshat”, or twist your nose as the person gives you a Terutz.
A person collected his thoughts, organized his point, planned his delivery, and finally shared what was in his mind for much more than the time it took you to listen. He was convinced enough of its value and enjoyed it enough until he allowed it to burst forth. More importantly, if it is his own thought, he takes pride in it and identifies with it.
To knock it down faster than it took to recite it, is to show that what he thought about for a week doesn’t stand up to your split-second sense of truth.
How often I’ve seen the initial reaction being that disapproving twitch, only to be followed by ‘hmm, could be’, and eventually an agreement.
Think about this. This is basic Midos Tovos.
You can see in that Teshuva of the Chasam Sofer that it wasn’t from the Bal Shem Tov, but rather those who wanted to Daven with Kavanos Ha’ari.
Reb Eliezer, I must say that that’s a very uninformed comment. For most generations, Yidden wore a Gartel when they Davvened. Apparently, Rochel mentioned how Yitzchok put one on. See Rashi Bereishis 30:3.
It was only on the advent of modern clothing when some communities took the view that it is not necessary anymore.
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WIYMinhagin will converge, once we have a single, unifying Tzaddik as a king. Very likely that we’d end up dressing alike, or at least fewer varieties.
All jobs will be outsourced, which is a fruition of איש תחת גפנו, and is a concept that has already begun to the shape. A reimagined, safe internet will include a way for a יולדת to pay for her Korbanos.
“We’ll have a Sanhedrin enforcing full Torah Law compliance.”
Also enforcing wives’ obedience.