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To say kitnius is shtus is not belittleing the rishonim. Rishonim were clear on why they forbid kitnius and the situation that was prevelant in the their region at the time is not relevant to modern day. No one has the guts to cancel a food related stringency, they would be considered modern othrodox. It is only fine to cancel holochos of derech eretz, bein Adam lechavero, or man’s chiyuvim to his wife, as well as many others are fine to cancel. But the more food chumros you pile on the greater you are, and you don’t even have to work on your character.April 7, 2022 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm in reply to: I took the 2 shots & 1 booster should i take the next one ? #2076532
Yes, ask your doctor, who told you to take the first three shots. Obviously all the people who did not take the shots and are here to tell the tale, cannot know better than the doctor who is just a following protocol, and always complying with whatever the CDC tells him to do, and gives the same one size fits all treatment to all the patients.
This whole discussion is really disturbing. A Jew is a Jew, whether the person is in bnei brak, chadera, or wyoming.
Get your head out of the sand. Everything I have said is a fact, not a theory. Whatevsr you didn’t hear on CNN is “conspiracy theory?” Did you check Snopes maybe to know what’s fact and what’s fiction?
Name calling “conspiracy theorists” is just for those who have no argument.
Whatch recordings of World Economic Forum speaches, and then decide what is a theory and what is not.
Kudos to Jack for demonstrating exactly the reaction the world elite and war mongers want you to have. The idea is to get people to react emotionally like Jack and throw the world into WW3 chvsh.
Putin is not a nice guy, but Putin is a very smart guy, and he knows what he is doing.
Jack in his emotional state thinks that Putin should care for people of Ukraine more than Ukrainian government and world elites who did everything to trigger this war.
Think of all the millions of people killed by America in wars in Iraq and Aphganistan. Why Jack is not calling Bush psychopath? Trump was the only US president not to start any wars in recent History.
They all have no care for human life. They just use human death and suffering as a springboard to bring on more death and suffering.
Wake up Jack, to the Real World!
Putin is attacking Ukraine because of Nato forces which Ukraine is letting in that are positioning themselves and military equipment on Russian borders. Ukraine is run by corrupt government and their president was placed in power with the help of George Soros. Putin is against globalization and is in the way of one world government agenda and lgbtq agenda propogated by world economic forum, the same people who are behind the covid scam. Putin is in their way. They are encroaching on him by taking over neighboring countries. He has warned them for years not to do this. It is extremely unfortunate that it is innocent people that always end up suffering. But the people who are at fault here are Nato, US war mongers and the rest of the globalist elite. They are using the Ukrainian people as the victims of Putin in order to accomplish their own agenda, the more people die and suffer, the better it is for them. Just like when Israel kills Palestinians when protecting itself, it’s good for Palestinians, suffering of ukrnian people is a tool to arouse world hatred towards Russia. Yest they are doing everything to provoke Russia. “Russia, Russia, Russia! ”
I read ywn for yeshiva world news – news in the Jewish community. If YWN doesn’t want to do their own journalism on national and world news, that’s fine. We can read about that elsewhere. What is the point of copying and parting from far left publications, such low quality articles, I don’t know. If you insist on copying from other sources, can’t they find anything better than ap? They are making their readers cringe!
Sorry to burst your bubble, R’ Kanievsly is considered to be Gadol Hador by tiny fraction of Ashkenazim, namely charedim of Lutvish descent. There are so many different Ashkenazim. The idea of Gadol Hador itself is very questionable, and has no source in Jewish tradition.
Israeli government is abusing everyone, don’t think you are special!
But you are mixing up a lot of different historic and and modern events that are unrelated at all. And some of them have nothing ti do do with abusing frum people – funding reform is not abuse of frum people. It’s like saying funding orthodox is abuse of reform people! Government should not be funding religion, period. And why would charedim ask for Israeli taxpayers to fund their spiritual needs? Doesn’t anyone with basic morals understand that you cannot gain in ruchnius at expense of someone else??
It is very stylish in today’s world to be a victim. Everyone wants to be the victim, instead of worrying about their own responsibility to Jewish people, which is primarily to make kidush Hashem! The “frum” people are busy complaining how they don’t get enough freestuff.
Tzanuah means absent?
Women are not absent from the Pesach story or from Tanach or Talmud. But today its tottaly normal to call discrimination against women Tznius. Tznius has tottaly lost its meaning.
I don’t know why there are no daughters in the Hagadah, but its definitely not related to tznius. Women should be able to talk and ask questions in their own home, from their own father. And the Torah has plenty of instances of this.
What is the actual problem with a women learning Gemorah? We definitely from the genorah that women did learn gemorah. Yes, only few names are mentioned but obviously not every man that learned genorah is mentioned either. What would be the purpose of preventing someone from learning? Why do we care what the Satmar Rebbe said? He also said women have to shave their heads? How is that halachikally allowed? This is just one example of anti Jewish rhetoric of Satmar that is against holocho and Jeeish values and tradition.
Why is there is push to keep women simple minded and ignorant? What is the purpose of this, and where in chazal do we see this? Most women in these “ultra orthodox” communities can’t talk about anything more complex than what they have in their freezer. The more “farfrumt” the community, the more ignorant the women are. And I mean ignorant in Jewish study and thought. It is very disturbing. The women in Tanach were all wise, educated, strong minded, independent thinkers. Isn’t that what we are supposed to nurture in our daughters?
When there is extreme on one side, it causes extreme on the other side. When girls are taught in BY schools that their worth is dependent on how unattractive they make themselves, and there are teachers who walk around with rulers and measure girls skirts, it causes many to rebell and to hate the idea of tznius.
When girls see teachers who are dressed with complete lack of personality and color, all black and same stiff wigs, it really backfires on many girls.August 26, 2021 10:48 am at 10:48 am in reply to: Ahavas Yisrael for those in YU/the MO community (Ask me anything) #2003152
I can write a list just as long on what are “acceptable aveiros” in the yeshiva world, aveiros that are even considered mitzvos. Feminism is wrong, but what they have done to women in the charedi world, is wrong too. In chassidishe communities even names of women are not allowed to be mentioned. And no one protests that. They have books for children with no mothers and girls walking the street. What a terrible chillul hashem that brings countless people away from Judaism. It is important to be balanced, and this balance looks different at different times. I went through BY, and 2 years of seminary, and I was shocked as I grew older to find out all things they ommited from our education to keep us simple minded, and obedient. The charedi world is far from traditional or original Judaism. And the mote extreme they get, the more they push jewish people to give up on tznius, and all Torah values.
Doctors just follow the protocol they are told to follow by cdc. They have absolutely zero education about vaccines. How can you trust a doctor on a vaccine that has not been studied?
This is sad that people wash their hands off the responsibility for their children, and their own selves, and just have others make personal decisions for them.
This is a tragedy of our scosiety. He is worried for a message being not kosher, more than pushing away a Jew!
All these breaches of holocho can be fixed now. These are minor issues compared to the fact that the cast majority of Jews in the world are completely separated from Judaism!
And this attitude that protecting yourself is more important than reaching out to a fellow Jew is the cause of it.
This story is very strange and it is extremely unlikely anything like this has ever happened before or cab happen again. It takes insane talent and intellectual to be able to pull of such a scam.
Why from this story you take a Mussar haskell to mistrust everyone. But from the everyday situation on the streets you learn nothing.
Because you are worried about a not kosher mezzanine, not Hashems children who will not even have Jewish offspring, forget hang a mezuza.
The missionary had no success in converting anyone. Frum people are not susceptible to this. It is the not religious people that are at risk.
The great damage done by not welcoming a Jew cannot be compared to the damage which which can be caused by being mistakenly welcoming to a non jew.
These people put on the right clothes and people accepted them.. There are so many Jews that have been pushed away by the frum community. That is a true tragedy.
Do not throw into the same sentence disrespect for Torah and disrespect for those who YOU personally chose (or more likely where raised to believe) as a Torah leader. Some people think reform Rabbis are Torah leaders, some people think J for J are Torah leaders. As far as I am concerned anyone who trashed holocbo and Jewish values is disqualified from being a Torah leader, no matter what leadership position they Yarshened from their ancestors.
What you are to the corona passports is what “antivaxers” are to tye measles passports.
You think this is different because you are scared on corona vaccine, and not measles vaccine. But its not different.
You didn’t stand up for those who did not want to force the measles vaccine. Now you are here, getting the very same logic of safety and science etc.
It is same world order that was forcing the measles vaccine as the corona vaccine. They are a few steps ahead now. The public is ready for the next phase of propoganda and fear mongering.
Just look at the comments you are getting here. But I think it just reflects on YWN readership, not the general public opinion.
Not everyone worships same “Gedolim” you worship. I know they don’t let all negative comments go through, I have had some of my comments not published, and others I was surprised were published. Sensorship is a very dangerous thing, it makes intellectually dishonest people comfortable, but it repels those who have any integrity.
The inconsistency is sometimes due to different moderators, not different standards. Many posters like to hide their disrespect for Torah or it’s leaders behind inuendo or double meanings that are not always clear to everyone in the same way. As dangerous as you see ‘sensorship’ to be, disparaging Torah and it’s leadership is infinitely more dangerous.
Always ask questions, I live in Brooklyn and have all the adulation there is to have, Bais Yaakov, 2 years seminary, Master degree. My freinds are well educated people of diverse backgrounds, including an oncologist. I do not wear a mask, and never did, and shulls where I live never asked for masks, and everyone is perfectly fine. The frum communities in Lakewood, Brooklyn, Monsey, and Florida are the irrefutable proof that these masks and regulations do nothing but cause mental and economic devastation.
I do not meet many people in the US who are considering taking it, whoever from my freinds asked their doctors about it, the doctors said people with no risk factors for covid should not take it. In Israel there is a witch hunt on anyone who doesn’t want to a lab rat. Yeshiva world news should know here almost no one is falling for their shameless propoganda.
The charedi people have had cancel culture long before the left came up with it. Just wear the wrong color shirt, that’s it, you are canceledJanuary 19, 2021 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm in reply to: Frum Man Has “Credible Information” That Trump Will Remain President #1940439
Are you guys all Kollel graduates? You learn the Talmud?
You understand any history?
You understand what is propaganda?
You sound like a bunch of teenagers who watch too much TV
Or maybe spend too much time reading those Hermishe magazines.
There is no reason to believe that the government tells you the truth. There has never been a government that told people truth.
Even Manchu Beis David did not last more than 2 generations without going corrupt. And here you are upset at someone for saying that the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton are doing awful things without telling the world about it.
Why would you think Bin Laden is dead? Because they told you on CNN that they killed him and threw his body overboard?
Right, thats what you do with the most wanted criminal…
Not sure what happened there, but believing in these fairytales from the corrupt government is dumber than questioning and trying to piece together all the evidence you have.
Yeshiva world just makes Leitzanus of people who question the government. That’s the most they can do.
Amazing paradox. This OP thinks learning Shas is meaningful, but actually keeping the holocho that is clear through Shasand all Tora and kabalah sources, throughout every part of Jewish history is not meaningful. Torah from lashon horaah. It’s not just reading material, and it clearly tells us the roles of men and women. Chazal attepted in so many ways to prevent the current situation and give protection to women and children, they went as far as putting it into the ketubah. And today we see that the harsh words of the gemorah regarding men who do not work for a living have come true.
I am commenting here to help guide people who have an open mind, not people who can’t comprehend the possibility that doctors could be wrong. To keep repeating that the parents are wrong because their experience does not correlate to what the pharmaceutical companies and the government advertise is not a good argument. I brought in the birthing position example, because that is something that is right now changing in the US, something no midwifes use, and something that is not practiced in other other countries where birth statistics are much better. This was to help open your mind that many accepted medical practices are extremely harmful. There are countless examples of this in history. The way vaccine trials are conducted has many flaws, and the data released to the public is not complete. There are many books and documentaries on the subject, and I cannot attempt to write it all here, but all the science behind non-vaccinating is there. I personally would rather risk measles, because there is a lot I can do to prevent complications, and help manage this disease. There is no telling how my children will react to vaccines, and there are no studies on long term effects of vaccination on human health. There is not much to do to reverse effects of vaccines. Everyone can weigh the risks and benefits for their own family. To force one size fits all medical protocol on the entire nation, and to bully people who do not comply is not something that should be happening in a free society. Medical practices are constantly changing, and they differ greatly from country to country. To say that no one has the right to disagree with what is happening right now in this country is dictatorship, and all the people who are bullying those that don’t comply with every new regulation coming out each year are just useful idiots for the power giants in charge of all this,
@Meno If it happened to YOU chv”sh would you keep saying there is no evidence?
Would you look in the eyes of a mother telling this story and tell her “science doesn’t support your account”
Once you go down the rabbit hole, there is plenty of evidence.
But regardless, lack of science does not negate reality. When reality does not match “science” it means there is something off with the way the experiment was conducted. It does not mean that REALITY does not exist.
Please read the vaccine insert. Encephalitis is one of adverse reactions to vaccines, and after that the child can leave lasting effects on the brain. CDC has been caught with falsifying data, and not only regarding vaccines.
No, not everyone reacts to vaccines because different people can detox better than others. One of the common factors in this is MTHFR gene mutation.
“Another point, the immediate death or seizures is nonsense, the immune system does not immediately react.” all these reactions did happen within days, not immediately.
Doctors and cps, etc just follow protocol, and if they don’t they loose their job. Most people in all such positions never question protocol. Example of this is obstetricians who never questioned for years putting laboring woman on her back and stirrups. We already know this causes major complications, and a great amount of unnecessary hellish pain, but that’s what they saw in medical school, so that’s what they do. Doctors just repeat what they were taught. Through out history, the rare case where doctor discovered something contrary to belief of medical world, he was ostracized and called crazy.
This is a personal account of a woman in the frum community, who was just like most people trusting doctors orders, and vaccinating her children.
Before you start blaming and spreading hate, and absolute lies about ‘anti-vaxers’ talk to people who actually experienced vaccine injury.
I was just talking about vaccines with a friend, and a woman overheard us and joined in the conversation. She told us that after her 11 month old went through a round of vaccines, he shut down to the world. He stopped being a happy active baby. He started sitting there, flailing his arms, not engaging with his family. The doctor denied that it had any connection to vaccines, the doctor claimed the timing was coincidental. The injury was not reported.
A tiny fraction of vaccine injuries are reported. A nurse in NYU told me that she only found out vaccine injury existed after many years working in the hospital and administering vaccines. She never knew she is supposed to look for it, or inform parents that vaccines have side effects. There is no informed consent for vaccines, medical professionals are not taught to report them, they are taught that “it’s coincidental” when a child exhibits mental/emotional issues after vaccines.
People who have reported injuries, had to spend years in court, for the unlikely possibility of receiving any reimbursement for the tremendous expenses of raising a sick child. Most people can’t afford to win this case. Therefore a tiny fraction of vaccine injury claims are confirmed by vaccine courts.
Not everyone uses online classes, personally it’s not something I am into. I was giving examples of different possibilities that exist.
I am not attempting to shield my children from reality by not sending them to school. I find school has very little to do with reality. Unless you plan to spend your life behind a desk , surrounded by desks with people of your exact age and background, and having someone constantly giving you direction. My children will have many real opportunities to work hard and accomplish things in the world. Their reward will not be a grade but the fruit of their labor. The school is the bubble. And that is one of the biggest problems with it. And yes there are multiple studies which show the benefits of homeschooling. Though it is often not wise to apply general statistics to individual situations. Nothing is ‘for everyone.’ But I think homeschooling is something many children and families can benefit from.
Regarding homeschooling different ages. There are many things kids of different ages can do together, and each benefits on their own level. Older children mentoring younger ones is a great educational experience for both the older and the younger. In my homeschooling methodology, the goal is to make use of children’s natural curiosity and desire to learn and make them into independent learners. The older children should be able to accomplish much of their learning independently.
Diy can he more expensive but i find that is a rare case. The reason to do diy is to get the exact product you want and the high quality you want. I do diy because the product I want is not on the market. It is custom made and tailored to each of my children.
I do not know any homeschooling families who are doing this because they are rich. They do not have any special financial surcumstanses. They are doing this because they believe it is best for their children.
As a young woman who is still building a family, pursuing my career has too many drawbacks. I just cannot be depositing by newborn babies at a babysitter. Babies need a lot of holding and nursing and unless you have a privet babysitter there is no way a baby gets proper care. Another two toddlers in play group, and a few school tuitions, plus after care. Me working can be worth the money, especially if you consider the price my infants would have to pay for it, and the health and sanity I would loose by doing so.
People who choose homeschooling can afford it because that is what is important to them. If people can afford kollel with the mother shouldering all responsibilities of both man and woman… Then definitely people can afford mother staying home and saving on tuition while the father makes a living. If that is what they value. It is not a lifestyle of luxury. But it is a lifestyle of freedom and health. I have time to give all my children attention they need and I have opportunity to feed them fresh homemade food for every meal. No one is rushing, no one is stressed. No one tells us when to wake up, how to dress, what kind of cell phone to use, etc. My children are not receiving grades, or tickets or stickers or avoiding punishments. Everyone has opportunity to explore and discover and think about what interests them.
I do have a graduate degree, but I realized pursuing my career is not compatible with the way I want to raise my children. As much as I feel I wasted much money and many years on my graduate education, it is not a reason to waste more time and money on a lifestyle I don’t believe in. I am building my life around the way I want to raise my family. I am coming up with other opportunities to make money. And my children can learn and be part of both mine and my husband’s business ventures. It’s a family adventure and the parents are in full control.
So far every responder to the original post is completely oblivious to the problem. Healthy lifestyle has always been job of the mothers, it takes a lot of education, and a lot of time and effort. All this gets much more difficult with every additional child. In the last generation the traditional tafkid of women both in Judaism and in scosiety at large has been canceled. But in frum world situation is worse. When you go into regular supermarket there are usually worse and better food choices. Kosher supermarkets are only now slowly starting to carry some at least healthier sounding products.
Regarding study of tomorrow people hire rebbi for fee hours, depending on father’s ability to teach children. It takes a tiny fraction of the time to teach a child one on one in accordance to personal needs than it takes in a classroom setting. There are also online classes that many people use for both judaic and secular subjects. Older children can also take advantage of the many shiurim and learning programs available in the neighborhood as well as online.
Homeschooling is as expensive as you want it to be. Perhaps if it only one child you are homeschooling it can end up more expensive if mother leaves her job to care for one child. but of you have many children it is difficult to imagine how can it possibly be more expensive. Most subjects covered in school do not require special tutors. But by homeschooling children get both time and financial ability to pursue extra curricular interests. As opposed to education system that chews up information into tiny bits for children, then asks them to swallow it and then spit it back. Homeschooling allows for child led approach where children have time to think, explore, and learn to study on their own.
I have never seen such a phenomina that homeschooling children have a hard time in groups or any kind of social situations. It is exactly the opposite. My children get to interact with wide variety of people as opposed to people exactly like them, their age, their background, in the same uniform (like real life). Therefore my children are the most well socially adjusted children that I know. They do not have the inhibition that I see in so many children in my neighborhood. My children play with all kids in the neighborhood who range from chassidish to secular. They are comfortable with all ages, including many adults who we have over as shabbos geusts. And I think that is the most important chinuch they can ever get. Real life does not resemble a sterile classroom.
As for feeling ‘normal’ , let’s be honest, there is no lack of children that are made to feel not normal by the school system. If homeschooled kids don’t feel ‘normal’ that is not something that is inherent in homeschooling. In my opinion it is very important to teach children that they do not have to be like everyone else in order to be ‘normal’. This idea that everyone has to be cookie cutter same is one of the ugliest trends the frum scosiety has developed in the past generation.
Teachers in school are often very poorly equipped to teach. People I know who go into chinuch are regular people who do not have more education than an average mother. They often have less.
True mothers get tired of dealing with kids without break. Mothers also get tired of having to work, then deal with kids all evening and wake up for babies at night. Etc. All mothers get tired. Father’s also need to be involved. Hiring babysitters and cleaning help as often as necessary is a tiny price to pay for the many benefits children get by spending their childhood stress free in a family setting as opposed to in a mass production one size fits all system.
I couldn’t get through all the posts here. But I just want to say that I very much resonate with bais yakov maidel. I am a very intellectually honest person, despite all the attempts of our culture to squish that in me. And I realized soon after getting out of BY system that I am really ignorant in Judasim . My years in school and seminaries have been largely a waste. I have not been able to invest much time in study since then, since I am a mother of many young children bh. And I feel a real void. But everything that keeps me on track is what I learned on my own, outside of the Bais Yakov system, and definitely it is nothing coming from the “Yeshivish world”. Judaism has always evolved with the times, and all the different opinions from different eras that have been passed down to us reflect the time and place in which they originated. People here have been quoting the Rambam. The Rambam also writes in his Mishne Torah that a man can beat his wife with a stick (he may need permission of Bais Din, unclear from text) if she refuses to wash his feet or make his bed. Some things from a different era just can’t work today, and some things that work for general klal can’t work for individual people. And the stubborn ideology that an opinion of a particular Rav, or a chumrah accepted by a specific community is more important than well being of a Jew, or unity of the Jewish people is destroying us.