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Tzirel definitely means jewel. Jewelery in Yiddish is tzirung.
mommamia22, you know more than you think. Read Popa’s last post. And Popa, you shamed mommamia22 – and me. 🙁
“It’s true. They are not afraid of me. I’m not thrilled with the idea of potching. I’ve done it in the past, only to feel horrible afterwards. I need to find ways of motivating them without hurting them. I always thought I’d potch only for dangerous behavior like touching a stove, etc., but now I find myself wanting to potch for repeatedly not listening and chutzpah.”
Then your kids’ sleeplessness is the least of your problems. Don’t think you’re wiser than Shlomo Hamelech: ???? ???? ???? ???. Chutzpah and lying should be punishable by petch. If your kids know that you have this option, you won’t have to potch too much. I’ve potched my kids no more than several times in their life, but they know it’s a weapon in my arsenal. If you feel horrible, you need help. Perhaps you’ve read too much Dr. Spock and his ilk. Read – no, LEARN – The Delicate Balance, by S. Ch. Radcliffe, for a sensible, Torahdik approach to chinuch.
littleapple, your standards for a goy are impossibly high.
momma, your kids are NOT AFRAID OF YOU. You need to teach them ??? ??? ????? ????. How about a few good old fashioned well-placed petch?
s-h mum: Little kids don’t need more than a quarter pill of melatonin and it works wonders, though for some kids it doesn’t work at all. I don’t give it on Shabbos so that they shouldn’t become addicted. Hatzlacha.
Does Helbrans Ym”sh have any shaychus with the burka nuts in E”Y? That’s news to me.
luv2hack, don’t argue with success – or with human nature.
Amen, thank you.
I tell my kids after the beshow: “The decision to go ahead with this shidduch is OUR burden (based on our info), not yours. You don’t have to decide if this is the right one for you. You just have to decide if this is NOT the right one. Is there anything you find negative or off-putting about him?”
If not… Mazel Tov!
Really, the “yes” decision is too heavy a burden for a young person, let alone an infatuated one, to make on their own. The “no” decision is difficult enough.
Thanks, BH. There’s someone in Montreal (French Canada) who actually eats it.
Banana = Bon Annu (sp?) = ??? ????
I mention your name 3x a day in the ??? ????.
????? ????? ?????, ????? ?????? ????
GumBall: A girl in MY classes father was supposesd 2 go on the flight tht crashed in 2 the twin towers but forgot his teffilin in the hotel and went back and missed the flight!! look at how hashem is so good to us!!
So it’s NOT a “Jewish urban legend”? Can you share some details? TIA.
“im not a chasid of any kine”
Me neither. They’re all behaimes, and besides, I’m allergic to milk.
Mods, it’s a joke! The plural of cow used to be kine!
How about your mom moving away with the whole family and starting anew in a new community? A lot to gain. Anything to lose?
How about Yonit? Has all the consonants. You can call her Toby in Yiddish. (Yonah=Dove)
It’s a figure of speech, kapusta.
“Learning in yeshiva is to you a bigger crime than any other sin.”
Exactly. One poster here insisted that kollel is worse than TV.
I’ve thought long and hard about it in my day, and I’ve come to this conclusion:
There’s the tznius factor, of course, as others have pointed out, but it’s a misconception that chassidim have singled out women in this respect. Driving is frowned upon, period. It’s perceived to be dangerous physically and spiritually; if you’d think twice before driving somewhere, you’d think ten times before taking a taxi there. A driving boy is considered like a working boy; he can forget about a good shidduch. Shaina yidden, ????????? ????????? (sorry, defies translation) and many rebbishe einiklach, wouldn’t be caught dead driving. I suspect it would be assered for everyone, if possible, but that would be a ????? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ??. So working men drive because they have to, and many non-working married men who need a car for their ego drive because it’s already acceptable for their age and station. Still, the ideal is to not drive, for everyone, not just women.
Your system is messed up because you date like prostakkes while you learn like Bnai Torah.
“Yes, it’s going to happen right now. an “unpoular non-Yeshivish view”? Well what do you expect on a forum dedicated to a Yeshivish view?”
APPLAUSE.
Your greatest asset on your resume is your abusive past. Just telling them, “I too suffered all that, plus I can’t learn, yet I remained frum because if I don’t have olam hazeh, I want to at least have Olam Habah!” is a powerful message. Also you can tell them, “I’m shteiging together with you.” And that’ll be true, I guarantee!
ursula, that was clever and funny.
WIY: I agree.
“All jokes are Leitzanus.”
Not true. Only making fun of ???? ??????. See Rashi on ?????? ???? ?? ???.
oy vey kids these days Feif Un
Now that sounds like an accurate statement. Ha Ha!
Thanks, Always. I participate only when I feel I can accomplish something. My faves: mod 80, WIY, Observanteen, DY, SmartCookie, and LMA.
If she’s happy (laughs and smiles a lot) it’s probably normal.
You’re right, it’s not 100% exact teitch. We should be able to say, “I can look at his fortune with an ayin tovah.”
I disagree. Farginen is the exact teitch of having an ??? ????. There should be an English word “Goodeyed”, like “Goodhearted”.
“A lot of Gedolim stories bother me.”
Do stories of secular heroes bother you too?
Antonym: Begrudge.
MG, ????, with a Yiddish pronunciation, is no less Yiddish than Polish-Yiddish Podloga. Let’s just call it American-Yiddish. ???, which means floor-planks, is used by old Litvak-Russians. ???????, used in Israel, refers to those bothersome tiles. IMO the most correct is ???? or ???????, which means floor in German, the ancestor of Yiddish.
??? = satiated. But ??? is much better. How about ???? Now that’s a stumper.
??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ?????. Happy birthday. Use it to ask anything from Hashem. “Ask me and I’ll give.” We tell our kids to say the number of kapitlach tehilim that corresponds to their new age.
Stamper, Rav Schwab’s words are awesome (literally). Answers any doubt, I’d say, clears up any confusion between MO and RSRH. For this alone this debate was more than worth it.
“yitayningwut: I give up.”
“ItcheSrulik: I did that when I realized LMA & Co. actually thought Bilaam meant isolationism in his bracha.”
LMA, I guess you can declare victory. To think ?? ???? ????? means anything else… R. Aharon Kotler was right: The essence of Modern Orthodoxy is the same as the Reform and Conservative.
Huh? Insulted? Who said anything about Litvak?
“Gavra_at_work: I agree. I think this whole hergesh/dvakus point is shtuss and nonsense. Move on to something substantial!”
Yeah, like, lemaiseh: How’s it working out for you? Is your brand of Orthodoxy successful with its Hashkafa? Is it strong, viable, confident enough about passing on its legacy to future generations intact?
“…you said the same crazy ideas.”
GAW, this is RUDE. Cut it out. NO insults on this great thread.
Stamper, you have good point. Let’s take it to a new thread: “Pro-UO Arguments for The Great Debate. (MO are welcome to start their own thread.)
Mod 80, are you still laughing at my idea? Even if you are, PLEASE delete everyone’s posts (incl. mine) except LMA’s and Itche’s. Thanks.
Thanks, Itche. Very clear, straightforward and civil. May I suggest now that both parties try to defend their hashkafa: Is it working IRL?
Way to go, LMA. Clear, concise, no-nonsense arguments. I can’t wait for Itche’s response. I think you should start a new thread with that post, and Mods, Please delete ALL other posters.
LMA, do you agree? Mods, will you delete all posts except those of LMA and Itch? Let’s go!
True, Stamper, but the OOT “bessere” goyim are VERY different from the inner-city scum.
Chacham, that’s what I LOVED about the book. It made Ami and Reform look as ridiculous as it is and brought people to teshuva. Also his poetic ignorance and his avoidance of the damning question, “What do you learn in Theo Sem?”
“I guess because in OOT societies we are more conscientious of the goyim, whereas in Brooklyn or Queens your whole block is frum so you have very little contact with the goyim”
I think it’s because in OOT societies we live among more normal goyim, whereas in Brooklyn or Queens we live among meshu-goyim, so they think all goyim are like that. We need to educate them that the rural goyim act more normal ????”? than ?????? the city Jews.
ItcheSrulik, I mostly agree. Unless and until, forget it.