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Maybe he keeps garlic in his armpits in case he needs some.
Mitzva b’gadol, b’gadol l’yabeim, b’gadol l’yabeim tamid!
At least 3/4 grandparents born in Hungary before war.
Ok, here’s the real song.
Knock knock
who is there
me
me who
me
me who
me
me who
me
Ich bin ich
Du bist a ferd
Chorus:
A groisseh ferd
Az is shmekst vie ah grubbeh mencsh noch shevuous
Ich bin ich
Und yenem iz oichet a ferd!
Chorus
Ich bin ich
Und dein bubbeh iz oichet a ferd
Chorus
Most partnerships are doomed to failure when one partner takes to griping in online forums about the perceived faults of the other partner(s). Partners who respectfully address all things they feel important with the other members of the partnership will find that the partnership will either grow, or due to significant differences will dissolve the partnership.
Now you sound like my husband.
Gamanit, agreed. I meant it as a joke and also to get some goats
Well, my rosh yeshiva can beat up your rosh yeshiva
Agreed with the Goq. Women do the same thing. And as bad as it is when we realize it, it would be worse if they turned around and went back up the stairs calling “forget it” over their shoulder.
Because the women will be insulted and embarressed if the guy takes a look, says “you’re ugly”, and walks out.
That’s why.
I don’t have any need to bicker about what you said or didn’t said. If you agree we should treat him as an apikores, that’s good enough for my purposes.
You have already agreed with that? Link the post.
Will they also have a censored Torah without the maaseh of tamar and the other tamar?
For the approx 9th time, apikores is about how we treat them for various halachos; and not a question of “reality”.
(This is an example of where you ignore responses to you and talk “around” them. I have used this while trolling very effectively.)
The two contrarian activities are: (1) changing the position you are arguing, without acknowledging it, and (2) ignoring responses while pretending to respond.
It affects whether I trust you.
PAA, so I used to think you probably knew what you were talking about here regarding the metzius, and sources, etc.
But then I read this thread http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/shmuly-yanklowitz-novominsker-and-oo-theology
And decided you just like being contrarian.
We should not consider ourselves able to call stupid what rishonim called stupid.
Moreover, when the rishonim called it stupid, it had not been a minhag already for several hundreds of years. Which is why you may notice that no modern day ashkenazi posek calls it stupid, or suggests you can be meikel with it in any way.
Charlie is stupid.
The actual reality. For example whether H’ can have a corporeal manifestation or not. There is only one objective reality answer to that question. Either the Rambam is correct or those who believed otherwise are correct.
Ah, but I’m more concerned with how I’m supposed to act. And the torah is lo b’shomayim.
The title of apikores is not about making fun of them; its about knowing whether there is a mitzva to make fun of them, and if I can eat from their kashrus, etc.
Sam, I think you can even go further.
You can say they are choshud to be tofeis any other shittas yochid of questionable interpretation that has irregardless been rejected for thousands of years.
So can you eat their kashrus? Of course not. Maybe they eat bsar of bchalav. (Which is far less radical)
Can you drink their wine? Of course not. Maybe they are oveid avodah zarah with it in a way that they think is muttar.
Can you marry into their families? Of course not, maybe they are miyabeim a tzaras habas.
Well then you’ll have to explain what you mean.
exactly what I said 4 times already. That it isn’t Judaism as it is practiced today and was practiced for thousands of years.
So that even if he is not a heretic, he has nothing in common with Judaism.
Which part of this thread are you not following?
Just because generally MO are frum, does not mean that the ones in Pico-Robertson are. I don’t know the people in Pico-Robertson, and don’t know what the term MO means there.
Pulsing flower, you should not be so quick to jump to conclusions.
ad hominimum
Nothing to do with heretics.
Ok, so odu li mihas that even if you personally don’t care whether there is kiddush Hashem or chillul Hashem in the world, that a person who does not believe in the geulah is not practicing Judaism
To the contrary, it is a very good idea. Those who point to the UWS confuse cause and effect. The singles on the UWS would be single anywhere.
Let me explain myself. I don’t particularly care what any person does in his service of the Lord. I don’t mean that I don’t care at all; obviously I would love for everyone to serve the Lord properly. But it doesn’t bother me one iota how an individual chooses to do so. That being said, if someone can defend there actions then he is deserving of respect that someone who cannot defend his actions is not deserving of. Regardless of whether the issue is whether he davens or whether he wears Techeiles. Techeiles happens to be a good example because probably most people who don’t wear techeiles don’t really know why they don’t; they kind of just follow the crowd so to speak.
Sure, but your position starting off was a technical question of whether one is a apikores for denying that there will be a geulah.
In which I note you’ve argued yourself into circles and quite forgotten what you’re argument is.
If he can cogently give halachic reasoning for why he doesn’t then I respect that.
Oh, the halacha man are you. Don’t you think it is halacha that you are supposed to daven? See your previous post that you don’t care if he davens.
You’ve quite frankly argued yourself into circles, probably because you forgot what your original position was.
Use the sour grapes method.
(tell yourself it was rotten anyway)
To be fair, most people who say it do so because it is in the selichos, and have the foggiest idea what it is.
such as Hillels and such
To be clear: they are being hired at Hillels by the OU, under its JLIC program.
How about if he doesn’t wear techeiles, then would you care?
Forget the specific individual. A person who doesn’t believe in mashiach cannot daven a single tefillah without it being half stuff he doesn’t believe in.
Like someone who believes Mohammed is a prophet, they may not be an apikores but they sure aren’t practicing Judaism.
PAA
L’dvarecha, if a person beleives in most of Islam (if not all) he is also not an apikores, but odu li mihas that he isn’t practicing judaism.
This dude can’t daven a single tefillah without saying things he doesn’t believe.
DY:
Of course, but good lines don’t play by all your formalistic rules
Akuperma: right, but not if the marriage is not tofes acc to them.
I’m not asking why you want outside yerushalayim. I’m asking why its a sticking point for you when you apparently only know of one option there (which good luck getting into at this point btw)
Its better if illegal bec then you can just not have a civil marriage and that won’t even be wrong since you can’t, and then you don’t have all the marriage penalties
I loved best where he goes totally unhinged and starts attributing things that never happen in kosher slaughterhouses (dragging in sick animals) to kosher meat.
He obviously knows less about slaughtering than he does about Torah (meaning, he knows negative about slaughtering since not only does he not know what does happen, but he even thinks things happen which don’t, as opposed to Torah where he just doesn’t know anything).
I also am bemused by the YCT model of having their poor innocent students reply to criticism instead of meeting it themselves. Because we’re supposed to feel sorry for the students. Well, I do feel sorry for the students, and I hope they are chozer b’tshuva soon, together with their teachers.
Rationalfrummie: that speaks more to the nature of MO in my opinion.
As Sam has ppointed out to us, MO really does exist in that form also.
He had suggested somewhat speeding up the davening and making it more interesting like more singing.
Singing, talking, what’s the difference?
In other words it depends here what your goal is. If you just want people not to talk, then sure, make davening so fast they don’t have time to talk and sing so much they can’t hear themselves talk.
But if the point is that people should daven, then…
WHAT’s KBY??????
It is the best MO yeshiva in Israel, after Gush.
(ducks under table for the next couple days)
They don’t know of any????
Oh, I see, you need one that is (a) small, (b) outside yerushalayim, and (c) serious about learning.
I get why you might want a and c, but are you really ready to insist on b?
Also, kby is not small.
Tell them you quit unless you’re store manager.