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Tell them you quit unless they make you asst manager.
This is an incredible story
I know one chareidi shule wear the men keep asking why the womin want to dance with thaire teyreh and so the rav brought sum bachuros from yeshivat maharat to dance and then the bochurim saw how they danced woth the teyreh and were so impressed and never wanted to danse with the teyreh again
I certainly had my man shecht one.
FYI popa_bar_abba Rosh Chodesh Sivon has absolutely nothing to do with timing of Shovu’os.
Yes, but it has everything to do with the timing of rosh chodesh.
What are you talking about?
Yes, it was supposed to be off limits for now. I had forgotten. Sorry about that.
Rosh chodesh is only one day this month, even for chutz l’aretz. So it doesn’t matter.
Popa troll.
Hakatan: that was directed at my scenario. I agree that in your example where we are talking about history that it should have followed the shoftim of those days.
I do not align myself with hakatan’s views on everything.
Nor do I accept the notion that because gedolim were opposed or supported something 50 years ago, that their opinion would not have changed if they had seen what the thing had developed into.
I follow the shoftim asher yihyeh bayamim haheim.
I’m not insulting Yerushalayim, to the contrary, I’m standing up for her.
And I’m not trying to bait anyone. I’m in earnest here.
There is something very black-and-white and extreme about your position. You act as if it is a purely good thing that we control Har Habayis, and that there are no downsides. In doing so, you fail to even consider whether the downsides are worth the upsides.
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More like ?? ???? ??????. The supreme court and the government decide who is allowed to make a chillul Hashem there. Today they say this much chillul Hashem, tomorrow they say that much.
You think Rav Yaakov would have been dancing if you had told him then that 40 years later the conservative would be using the kosel to feif un Hashem? I’m sure he wouldn’t have. Would he still have been happy? Probably. Likely.
But you all act as if now is the time for ???? ???? ????.
I’m not full of ????. It’s good; I’m glad I can go there; I’m glad for the regular kiddush Hashem that goes on there. But this isn’t a happy little wedding. It’s a wedding where half the family is trying to break the shidduch. And you don’t dance so geshmak at that type of wedding.
Popa bar abba your stupidity knows no bounds. We are celebrating the incredible neis of winning the impossible 6 day war and reclaiming yerushalayim into Jewish hands for the first time in thousands of years. If not for this the Arabs would have completely wiped us out of Israel killing hundreds of thousands of us. Your lack of hakaraas hatov is disgusting
Don’t confuse issues. I am very thankful for the neis of winning the 6 day war, and of not being wiped out.
I’m even thankful that we reclaimed Yerushalayim. However, it isn’t this latter part is worth it for the chillul Hashem it causes. How do we balance Kiddush Hashem and Chillul Hashem? Do we just say that what makes us happy is also what is good?
popa_bar_abba I well comprehend just how short human memory spans are, so just let me remind you how many million times worse was the desecration of the Makom haMikdosh during the tragic 19 years &n 23 days that the Makom haMikdosh was tragically in Jordanian hands.
You seem to forget that nothing has changed in that regard.
Let’s celebrate that apikorsim desecrate the makom hamikdosh for their political agenda against Hashem.
I’d rather not be able to daven there, just let it not be desecrated.
(And the Mosque is still on the har habayis either way)
Wait, is a kohen generally not chayav in v’kidashto?
I already got to the bottom of it.
1. They had no idea that the etiquette would be to invite you. They probably actually didn’t invite anyone and just let it get around by word of mouth. Since you aren’t a particularly close friend, and are not part of their group of friends, you didn’t find out.
2. They’re embarrassed by your email, since they now think they did something wrong. And are not sure how to reply, hence the no reply.
3. Why did you email them? Ok, you missed the party. What do you want them to do or say?
Reuven trolled on Shimon’s website. As a result, Shimon’s website has many more visitors and generates more ad revenue, but is not what Shimon has in mind as a website for himself. Does Reuven owe him anything? Does Shimon owe Reuven?
I refer to the “shittah” that allows one to “evolve” the Torah to fit today’s cultural norms. Similar to that which is done to the constitution.
Well, sure, if they were saying that, but they’re not necessarily saying that. I haven’t read their literature, but I’m assuming that they are claiming that their compassion, and abstinence from animal products, is sanctioned and even applauded by the Torah.
I think they are distorting the Torah’s views, but by claiming that they are in consonance with them, and not directly contradicting the words of Chazal, they might be saving themselves from being considered apikorsim.
But it’s impossible for them to really believe that, unless they don’t believe in the Torah the same way we do.
Much like a liberal who thinks they are in line with the constitution. They know they’re changing it to their whims, it just sounds better when you phrase it constitutionally.
But while that’s a valid shittah in politics, it isn’t in Torah.
I don’t think it’s anti-Torah per se, it’s non-Torah. Compassion is wonderful, but when you put it ahead of other values (e.g. oneg Shabbos)in a way which halachah does not demand or even request, you’re just using an excuse to follow an “ism” rather than the Torah.
I think it runs much deeper than that. When somebody sees themselves as more compassionate than the Torah, they are declaring that the Torah is not the ultimate moral truth, since they are more moral than it (chalilah). It is a complete apikorsus in itself.
Rationalfrummie also is completely correct, in analogizing to Shaul. To take it a step further, I always understood the maiseh with shaul in a similar vein with what I wrote in this post. When a person doesn’t act according to the Torah, it is bad even if currently it is a “chumrah”, because once you’re out of the Torah’s morality, you’re on your own morality, and it is ??? ???? ??????.
I’m making a new recipe soon.
I didn’t work at bonim. It was fine.
Please say which shul. I’m a’dyin’ to go. (I’ll daven elsewhere first.)
Correct Logician: any “ism” outside the Torah is by definition wrong.
Also, your first point is ridiculous. Nobody is saying you can be cruel to animals in a vacuum. Just that where the Torah says you can do something, you obviously can.
So, do the vegetarians and their backers here: a. Believe Hashem is wrong, or b. that the Torah is not from Hashem?
Halacha: Keeping minhagim.
Minhag: Doing chumras
Chumra: Doing shtus
Shtus: v’chazar hadin
Din: Halacha.
Yytz:
1. I don’t believe that their main objection is the treatment before.
2. Upside down is a proper and necessary part of shechita, see shulchan aruch.
3. The issue is not whether killing is tzaar baalei chaim in a vacuum. The issue is in the context of the purpose of eating. (Yum)
I do.
The Wolf
a groiseh raiah. you also talk during leining.
I have no idea.
I assume you can’t use a full size plunger though, since it wouldn’t fit.
Straight means different things in Euclidean space and non-Euclidean space.
Sure, and apparently triangles also means a different thing. If you just keep changing what words mean, you can do whatever you want.
Popa, I don’t assume you mean in a case of severe pain as well. See R’ma E.H. 5;19 that although the Halacha is that it’s always muttar, in a case of extreme pain, the Minhag is to keep the Chumrah to abstain.
I meant the normal routine issues inherent in slitting the neck of a living animal and letting it bleed and suffocate to death.
Saying that we kill too many to satisfy our own Taivas doesn’t feel like a problematic Hashkafa.
I think it is.
The passuk says “b’chol avas nafshecha tochal basar.” If you think you need to work on perishus, go for it. But I think the idea that the animal’s pain is at all balanced against your desire to eat meat, is against the Torah.
Look back at the post that started this, tzadik. I believe I said ‘if the Earth was a perfect sphere’. Not to slight spheres who aren’t completely round, but they are not perfect. 🙁
So yes, it is straight on the surface.
Saying it is “straight on the surface” is meaningless, because you have qualified the term “straight” with “on the surface.” So it is only as straight as the surface is.
And a triangle as three straight lines.
In Eretz Yisroel, the minhag (as far as I know) is that even those who keep 2 days of Yom Tov will eat inside on Sh”A because of lo sisgodidu.
My yeshiva ate in the sukka on shemini atzeres, in Israel.
And either way, that is my point. Although the line is straight on the surface of the Earth, it can cause some interesting things to happen, because it is not really straight.
But it isn’t straight on the surface of the earth even if the earth was not a sphere, because it also goes over mountains and valleys.
In other words, it isn’t straight at all.
I believe that Chassidim do not hold by this. Shmini Atzeres is a separate holiday from Succos.
For non-chassidim, it is certainly halacha. The same way it is halacha for ashkenazim that chanan is assur by sh’ar issurim, even though sfardim disagree.
let me give you an example of non-Euclidean geometry. Everybody knows a triangle has 180 degrees. Right?
NO! False! That only works on planes not spheres.
For example, assuming the Earth is a perfect sphere, draw a line from the center of the north pole to the equator. That line now forms a 90 degree angle with the equator. Now draw another line from the center of the north pole to the equator, but at a 90 degree angle to the first line. This line is also at a 90 degree angle with the equator. Now connect the 2 lines with another line drawn on the equator.
As you can see, there are three 90 degree angles in this triangle. And 3*90 is 270 degrees; way above 180.
Once we’re going there, let’s also give this example:
Imagine the world is an imperfect sphere, and draw a line from Lakewood to Tel Aviv, and then to the Mir, and then to the best cholent place on thursday night in Beis Yisroel, and then back to Lakewood. As is obvious, there are way more than 180 degrees!
Because neither one is a triangle. Triangle’s have three straight lines; not squiggles.
Trollonomy.
Pre-med, and dental school.
Why don’t you go to Hadar and major in Yiddishkeit?
Non-euclidian geometry is shtus. Euclid was right.
nice
lol @ DY
Natural gas and wind now cost less than coal for electricity generation and are far cleaner.
Natural gas is also under attack, because it is obtained by fracking.
Also, wind is either not cheaper, or not obtainable in sufficient quantity. I know, because if it was cheaper someone could make a lot of money providing it instead of other electricity.
Wait in a yeshiva until one of them comes?
I agree. People who don’t think that proper care and compassion for animals are important are opposing the morals of the Torah.
lol, is that the best you can do for a response?
Pretend that certain parts of the Torah don’t exist; only the parts that you like?
I’m sure you’re totally in good faith when you do that, just trying to do ratzon Hashem.
Yes, they preach stealing from people and selfishness, and they do it in real life also.
PAA: Ok, but doesn’t the gemara say he used a romach? Or am I disremembering?
I know a case where a woman called a yoetzet about a mareh during a couple weeks after the wedding, and the yoetzet assured it over the phone without even seeing it.
The husband at least had enough seichel to still bring it to a competent rav, who was mattir it.