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Chaim87, You mentioned Rabbi Isser Zalman (Rabbi Aron’s shver).

Can you provide a source for this? I thank you in advance.

If you still believe that Agudath Israel of America,
and the Gedolim they represent, are not pro-Israel,
then please read this news article:
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Yeshivah World News said this:

“Agudath Israel of America released the following statement
condemning the Biden administration’s threat to stop
supplying arms to Israel over the impending invasion of Rafah,
the last remaining Hamas stronghold in Gaza:”

“Agudath Israel of America is deeply troubled by the White House’s
unprecedented decision to cease supplying certain arms to
a country’s whose security the President has reiterated his
ironclad commitment to, especially amidst Israel’s
multifront war against its mortal enemies.”

“Nor is this arms embargo limited to large bombs, but,
according to sources, could include smart bombs designed
to hit targets with precision and artillery – in other words
exactly the tools an army needs to fight while limiting civilian casualties.”

“Agudath Israel appreciates the administration’s longstanding
support for Israel, including supplying the Iron Dome
so Israel may defend itself – as Israel was forced
to do just last month when Iran directly launched
the largest military drone attack in history.
But being allowed to parry an incessant stream of rockets is insufficient.”

“Reasonable minds can differ on military strategies.
We also recognize the President’s record of support
for Israel and commitment to combat antisemitism.
But by publicly creating a rift with Israel in its hour of need
instead of casting full-throated blame on the terrorists
who brutally initiated the war and vow to repeat it,
continue to hold hostages, have refused countless
negotiations for peace, and for whom employing
human shields is a sick military strategy,
the United States is endangering Israel
and providing oxygen to antisemites worldwide.”

SOURCE: article titled: “Agudath Israel Blasts
White House’s Unprecedented Decision to Cease
Supplying Certain Arms to Israel”
2024 May 9 by The Yeshiva World [News]

Yeshivah World News said this:

“There are Agudah events, and there was the Agudah
Federal Advocacy Summit, which was held this Wednesday
and Thursday in the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C.,
a historic landmark a stone’s throw from the White House
and a few short blocks from the United States Capitol.

Over 24 high-impact hours, the Agudah Summit
brought together lawmakers and community leaders
to advance a focused, high-level agenda.”

“The Agudah centered the Summit around three core priorities:
promoting federal school choice,
strengthening bipartisan support for ISRAEL,
and confronting antisemitism at the highest levels of government.

The Summit was powerful, and unscripted honesty defined nearly every session.”

SOURCE: article titled: “Senator Ted Cruz,
DOJ Officials, and Bipartisan Lawmakers Headline
Agudath Israel Federal Advocacy Summit”,
2025 July 22, by The Yeshiva World
http://www.TheYeshivaWorld.com/news/general/2427830/senator-ted-cruz-doj-officials-and-bipartisan-lawmakers-headline-agudath-israel-federal-advocacy-summit.html

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PERSONAL COMMENT:

The Agudath Israel organization traditionally represents
the teachings of The Moetzes Gedolei Torah.

They do not represent just one or two gedolim;
they represent the majority consensus of ALL the living gedolim.

Since the Agudath Israel organization is NOT INTERESTED
in dismantling the State of Israel, we may conclude that
the majority consensus of ALL the living gedolim are also
NOT INTERESTED in dismantling the State of Israel,

Thus, the claims of: Neturei Karta, UJM, HaKatan
and SomeJewIKnow have been refuted by
the gedolim who they falsely claim to represent.

Neturei Karta, UJM, HaKatan and SomeJewIKnow
have become ALLIES Hamas and Hezbollah,
our genocidal terrorist enemies who want to
KILL 100% of the world’s Jewish population,
including ALL Jewish children and ALL Jewish babies.

This gives them RODAIF & MOSAIR status;
and not just once, but millions of times
for millions of Jews who they endanger.

Their punishment that G*D gives them in Olam HaBa
will be extraordinarily severe; their punishment will be eternal.

Avnei Nezer (the Gadol HaPoskim ZTL ZYA)
clearly disagrees with Sefer VaYoel Moshe:

Avnei Nezer, chelek Yoreh Deah, siman taf nun dalet
from sif katan mem dalet and onwards [pages 287 to 289].
Now for sif katan nun in more detail:

” … and now it is good and not questionable why Rambam
[in his halacha sefer Mishneh Torah] and all poskim DID NOT
bring The Three Oaths LaHalacha, because those oaths
are not LaHalacha, because the person himself,
his body, was not commanded to keep the oaths…”

That is why the poskim DID NOT bring the oaths LaHalacha.
That is why NONE of the widely-accepted halacha sefarim mention The Three Oaths.

It is stupid to claim that The Three Oaths are “undisputed halacha”.

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Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman [ZTL ZYA HYD] made it perfectly clear
that his sharp criticisms were intended only for the original Zionists,
not their descendants.

Avnei Nezer (the Gadol HaPoskim ZTL ZYA) clearly disagrees with Sefer VaYoel Moshe:

Avnei Nezer, chelek Yoreh Deah, siman taf nun dalet from sif katan mem dalet
and onwards [pages 287 to 289]. Now for sif katan nun in more detail:

‘ … and now it is good and not questionable why Rambam
[in his halacha sefer Mishneh Torah] and all poskim DID NOT bring
The Three Oaths LaHalacha, because those oaths are not LaHalacha,
because the person himself, his body, was not commanded to keep the oaths…

That is why the poskim DID NOT bring the oaths LaHalacha.

That is why NONE of the widely-accepted halacha sefarim mention The Three Oaths.

It is stupid to claim that The Three Oaths are “undisputed halacha”.
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Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman [ZTL ZYA HYD] made it perfectly clear
that his sharp criticisms were intended only for the original Zionists,
not their descendants.

ANYONE SURPRISED? House Report Reveals Biden Funded Anti-Israel Protests and Terror-Linked Group

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2426744/anyone-surprised-house-report-reveals-biden-funded-anti-israel-protests-and-terror-linked-groups.html

The House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs Committees have detailed a sprawling web of U.S. taxpayer-funded grants—disbursed under the Biden-Harris Administration—that may have helped bankroll anti-government protests in Israel and even reached the hands of organizations with alleged ties to terrorism.

The investigation, which began with March letters to six U.S. and Israeli nonprofits, has already uncovered what lawmakers describe as “deeply disturbing” evidence of federal funds being used to influence foreign politics and destabilize a key American ally—Israel. But the findings go further, alleging potential criminal violations of tax law, the misuse of nonprofit status, and financial entanglements with terror-linked groups.

From Washington to Tel Aviv: A Financial Trail of Influence

At the heart of the inquiry is Blue White Future (BWF), an Israeli nonprofit founded to promote a two-state solution but which morphed into a political actor leading the charge against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s judicial reform agenda. Investigators allege that BWF operated as the de facto headquarters of the protest movement, labeling Netanyahu’s elected government a “dictatorship” and coordinating opposition strategy.

BWF reportedly received $4 million from the Middle East Peace Dialogue Network (MEPDN) and a staggering $18 million from the U.S.-based PEF Israel Endowment Funds (PEF)—organizations that, in turn, received money from U.S. government grant recipients, including Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors (RPA).

The memo includes a detailed flowchart outlining how millions in USAID and State Department grants may have been laundered—legally or not—through layers of philanthropic intermediaries before ending up in the hands of politically active Israeli NGOs. Some of these groups are accused of operating outside the legal bounds of nonprofit activity, both in the U.S. and Israel.

Indoctrination in Israeli Schools

One particularly incendiary finding centers on the Movement for Quality Government in Israel (MQG), a radical legal group that has used the Israeli court system to thwart Netanyahu’s government. The Biden administration reportedly gave MQG $42,000 to run a “Civic Activism Training” program for high school students in Jerusalem—teaching teenagers how to protest, report on political corruption, and challenge government authority.

Critics of the program—including Israeli parents and government advisers—compared it to U.S.-style progressive indoctrination, warning that such curricula “gut Israel’s Jewish character” and serve as a foreign-funded pipeline for political agitation.

U.S. Funds Traced to Terror-Linked Groups

Perhaps most alarming is the Committee’s charge that U.S. taxpayer dollars were indirectly funneled to NGOs with ties to terrorist organizations, including Hamas and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).

The Committee highlighted the Bayader Association in Gaza, which received nearly $1 million in U.S. funding despite hosting joint events with Hamas leaders—including Ismail Haniyeh’s son. The funding reportedly continued just days before the October 7 Hamas massacre in Israel.

Similarly, the Unlimited Friends Association (UFA), another Gaza-based group, received U.S. dollars while openly praising “martyrs” and disseminating antisemitic content calling to “cleanse Al-Aqsa from the impurity of the Jews.”

One U.S.-based group under fire is the Palestine Children’s Relief Fund (PCRF), which allegedly received indirect funding through the Tides Network and Rockefeller Philanthropy, despite a record of erasing Palestinian terrorism and operating from a Gaza hospital that was later discovered to conceal Hamas weapons and hostages.

The Alliance for Global Justice, a radical U.S. nonprofit, is also in the crosshairs for supporting Samidoun, a group the U.S. Treasury recently labeled a sham charity funneling money to the PFLP. Samidoun activists were seen celebrating the October 7 attacks and conducting “Resistance 101” workshops on U.S. college campuses.

The Committees say the investigation is far from over. Additional NGOs—both American and Israeli—are being subpoenaed for records, and lawmakers are pressing Biden-era officials for accountability. Federal agencies including USAID and the State Department are now under intense scrutiny over their grant-vetting processes.

(YWN World Headquarters – NYC)

UJM & SomeJewIKnow & HaKatan are fraudulently dreying a kop.

They claim that its preferable to let 8 million innocent Yehudim DIE,
rather than transgress their corrupt version of irrelevant non-Halachic “3 Oaths”.

For Muslims, religious truths are not decided by logic.

They are decided by military conquest,
when Muslims conquer non-Muslims.

When Muslims suffer military defeats from non-Muslims,
it is not merely a military problem; is is a theological problem,
it is a religious problem, is is a problem of religious faith.

Responding to HaKatan:

Religious Zionism is part of the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu:

Just look at the first Rashi on Chumash.

Just look at the first mitzvah that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu.

Just look at the many tractates of Mishnah that apply ONLY in Eretz Yisrael.

Just look at the 6th book of Tanach, Sefer Yehoshua.

Just look at the direction we must pray towards every day — Eretz Yisrael.

Just look at the Talmud, which teaches that
“whoever lives outside the Land of Israel,
he is considered as if he has no G*D.:

Since Religious Zionism is part of the Torah, those who
attack Religious Zionism are ignorant wicked heretics.

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HaKatan also said that The Three Oaths are “undisputed halacha”.

Yet they are NEVER MENTIONED in Yad HaChazakah or Shulchan Aruch.

Additionally, the nations of the world approved the creation
of a Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael in 1920 CE and again in 1948 CE.
Therefore, The Three Oaths cannot apply in our times.

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FACT: Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in 1941 of the Common Era.

FACT: The State of Israel was founded in year 1948 of the Common Era.

CONCLUSION: Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman NEVER SAW the State of Israel.

He never saw the miraculous victory of the 1967 CE “Six Day War”,
that started a Baal Teshuvah movement that lasted half-a-century.

He never saw the formation of religious units of the Israeli Army,
like the Nachal Chareidi and the newly-formed Chashmonaim Brigade.

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FACT: Sefer VaYoel Moshe was written in the 1950s,
when Israel was still a Socialist state.

FACT: The State of Israel abandoned Socialism around 40 years ago.

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HaKatan’s arguments have been refuted many times.

Yet he never changes his arguments; instead he just repeats
them endlessly, as if they has not been refuted many times.

And he never admits that people who disagree with him have valid logic.

The unrealistic policies that he advocates would certainly
lead the Jewish people towards a Jewish Civil War,
with Jews murdering Jews, followed by massive attacks
on Eretz Yisrael that would cause another Holocaust.

This makes HaKatan an apikuris and a rodaif and a mosair.
And not just once, but 8 million times, for 8 million Jews.

Yankel Berel, what you just said is obviously 100% true.

Only the most brainwashed haters and worst trolls would disagree with what you just said.

UJM said:

“Eretz Yisroel is in Golus. Anyone who claims otherwise is an apikorus.”

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MY RESPONSE:

How many times did the Rabbis of the Mishnah say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?

How many times did the Rabbis of the Jerusalem Talmud say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?

How many times did the Rabbis of the Babylonian Talmud say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?

How many times did the Rabbis of the Midrash say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?

I believe that the correct answers to these questions is approximately 0.

Rabbi Jonathan Sacks [ZTL ZYA] said this
in his essay titled: “The New Antisemitism”:

“In the past, Jews were hated because they were rich and because they were poor;

because they were capitalists (Marx) and because they were communists (Hitler);

because they kept to themselves and because they infiltrated everywhere;

because they held tenaciously to a superstitious faith (Voltaire)

and because they were rootless cosmopolitans who believed nothing (Stalin).

Antisemitism is NOT an ideology, a coherent set of beliefs.

It is, in fact, an endless stream of contradictions.”

CONCLUSION:
Blaming Jews (including “The Zionists”) for anti-Semitism is unfair, ignorant, and stupid.

PS: I do not know where “SomeJewIKnow” went to.
Maybe he made aliyah and joined the Israeli Army
as part of an elite combat unit?