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More evidence that the Agudath Israel organization is pro-Israel:

Yeshivah World News said this:

In response to Hamas’ October 7 [2023] atrocities and Israel’s war
against terrorism, Agudath Israel of America is organizing an ongoing
“Virtual Washington Mission” to impress upon the nation’s elected officials
the importance of their continued support for Israel and to solicit their aid
in helping to address the security challenges currently facing American Jews.

Agudath Israel’s Washington Office has worked closely with the organization’s
nationwide regional offices to coordinate the virtual meetings with
over 30 senators and congresspersons. And more are being arranged.
Some members expressed their desire to have in-person meetings,
which were convened in their home districts.

The agenda of these meetings has included the need for Congress
to back up Israel’s rooting out of Hamas, to condemn and isolate
the terrorist group, the safeguarding the hostages, and to quickly
pass legislation to provide Israel the military aid it urgently needs.

In addition, the activists are expressing concern regarding the
dramatic uptick in antisemitic incidents in the U.S., particularly
those experienced by Jewish students on America’s college campuses,
and urged the members to support a substantial increase in federal
security grants that support shuls, schools and other community institutions.

The mission’s participants include hundreds of rabbinic and
lay leaders across the country, all meeting with their respective
members of Congress. Participants report that the reaction
of the senators and congresspersons has been overwhelmingly
positive, and receptive to the Jewish community leaders’
perspective and message. The members of Congress stressed
how important it is that they hear from their constituents at this time,
and how every individual who reaches out to a congressmember makes an impact.

The meetings have led to tangible results including members
of Congress co-sponsoring legislation, reaching out to University deans,
and in one case, authoring a letter to Secretary Blinken asking him
to arrange a screening of the Israeli video featuring the brutality
of Hamas’ October 7th attacks for members of Congress and the media.

“Everyone needs to understand that now is the time to talk to
your elected officials in Washington,” said Rabbi Yossie Charner,
Agudath Israel’s director of congressional affairs.

“For every PRO-ISRAEL call a congressional office receives,
we have been told that it gets even more from the other side.
We, as both an organization and as constituents,
must make our voices heard.

SOURCE: article titled: “Standing With Israel:
Agudath Israel’s Virtual Washington Mission”
2023 November 13 by The Yeshiva World [News]
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/2239317/standing-with-israel-agudath-israels-virtual-washington-mission.html

Most Chareidim are not even willing to recite a tefillah for our soldiers,
not even a short tefillah, and they are OUR soldiers, who fight for us.

Most Chareidim are not even willing to recite a short tefillah
for the soldiers who are Shomer Shabbat and wear tefillin.

Most Chareidim are not even willing to give a simple “thank you”
to our soldiers, who risk their lives and limbs to protect our land.

Over the past ten years, there have been many disgraceful incidents
where Jewish soldiers were physically attacked by Chareidim.
Some of these attacks were reported by Yeshivah World News.

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Rabbi Yisroel Meir Lau (Chief Ashkenazic Rabbi
of Israel from 1993 CE to 2003 CE) said this:

“Over the years I have had the very special opportunity
to pray near some of the greatest rabbis
on the holiest night of the year, Yom Kippur.

I have prayed near Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rabbi Leizer Shach.

I saw and heard them cry, shedding copious tears
as they recited the Ashamnu and Al Cheit prayers.

And I saw them cry when they heard that our soldiers had been killed.”

SOURCE: At the Maggid’s Seder (page 92,
commentary on “this is the bread of affliction”)
by Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn, year 2020 CE,
‎ArtScroll Mesorah Publications,
ISBN-10: ‎1422625753 ISBN-13: 978-1422625750
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PERSONAL COMMENT:

Most of those soldiers who died were NEVER religious and NEVER Shomer Shabbat.

Yet Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rabbi Leizer Shach
CRIED when they heard that “OUR soldiers” had been killed.

Notice that Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn refers to them as “OUR soldiers”,
even though they were never religious, and even though they were never Shomer Shabbat,
and even though they took orders from Secular/Chiloni commanders and a Secular Jewish State.

Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach and Rabbi Leizer Shach CRIED
when they heard that “OUR soldiers” had been killed.

Why do the Chareidi anti-Zionists not cry when they
hear that “OUR soldiers” have been killed?

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Rabbi Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn said this:

A number of years ago, my late brother Rav Kolman Krohn zt”l got into a taxi in Yerushalayim.

The bare-headed driver had an earring in one ear, and he seemed angry and bitter.

There was a stony silence in the taxi as the driver wound around small side streets at breakneck speed.

Finally my brother broke thev silence and said in Hebrew, “Anu Achim” (We are brothers).”

the incensed driver responded angrily, “Anu Lo Achim” (We are not brothers)!
Atah Dati Va’Ani Lo Dati (You are religious and I am not religious)!”

My brother said softly, “My rebbi taught me that those who
are dati (religious) and those who are not dati are brothers.”

The driver turned to my brother and asked with disdain, “Who was your rebbi?”

My brother replied delicately, “Adolph Hitler.”

SOURCE: At the Maggid’s Seder (commentary on
“on all other nights we do not dip even once”, page 100)
by Rabbi Paysach J. Krohn, year 2020, ‎ArtScroll Mesorah Publications,
ISBN-10: ‎1422625753 ISBN-13: 978-1422625750

When the Melech HaMashiach finally comes,
Chabad will be in very big trouble,
because they will REJECT the Melech HaMashiach,
because the Melech HaMashiach will NOT be Rabbi Schneerson.

The Melech HaMashiach will then have the Halachic authority
to execute [kill] the entire membership of Chabad,
because that is the Halachic penalty for anyone who
rebels against a king from the dynasty of King David.

Moshe Rabbeinu was not the only Biblical prophet
who criticized Jews for not fighting for the Land of Israel.

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In Tanach, Sefer Shoftim, [the Book of Judges] chapter 5,
the Prophetess Deborah [Devorah HaNeviyah],
sings a Divinely-inspired song.

In chapter 5, verses 12 to 16, the Prophetess Deborah
publicly praises those Jews who fought against the enemies of Israel.

Then she publicly REBUKES those Jews who
did NOT join the fight against the enemies of Israel.

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In Tanach, in Sefer Shmuel Aleph, chapter 18, verse 7,
we see Shaul HaMelech and the General of Shaul’s Army,
David ben Yishai. (This was before David became King.)

They are both returning home from recent victory in war.

We see the Jewish women publicly praising both of them:

“SHAUL HAS SLAIN HIS THOUSANDS AND
DAVID [HAS SLAIN] HIS TENS OF THOUSANDS.”

PERSONAL NOTE:

From this we see that the soldiers who fight our enemies
deserve to be publicly praised and thanked.

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Tanach, Nechemiah, chapter 4, verse 8:

“And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles,
and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people:

‘Be not afraid of them!
Remember HaShem, who is great and awesome,
and FIGHT FOR YOUR BROTHERS, your sons
and your daughters, your wives and your houses!’”

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Babylonian Talmud, tractate Sanhedrin, page 72A:

“If you see someone coming to kill you, then arise and kill him first.”

PERSONAL COMMENT:

In our time, Hamas and Hezbollah are coming to kill us.
For Jews to arise and kill them first is not merely permitted,
it is required by Torah Law.

We need a new pre-nuptial agreement which requires that
every new child be DNA-tested, as-soon-as-possible [ASAP],
to determine if the husband-of-the-mother is the father of the child.

If the test result is negative, then it should be published in
Jewish newspapers, like: Yated, YWN, Matzav, Jewish Press, Binah, etc.

In this way, we can prevent mamzerim from happening, IYH.

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We need as new pre-nuptial agreement which requires that,
in the event of divorce, the wife will NOT receive more
than the amount specified by The Ketubah.

There must be no alimony or child-support,
only the amount written in The Ketubah.

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In the event that divorce happened because the wife
committed infidelity, the pre-nuptial agreement should
specify that she receives NOTHING from her ex-husband:
no alimony, no child-support, and no ketubah money.

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Those women who are innocent,
they have no reason to complain about any of this.

UJM said:

“They’re like the Democrats who want to import immigrants to vote for them.”

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MY RESPONSE:

I agree with UJM 100%, and it was my intention to
make EXACTLY THE SAME comment that he made.

Amazing! This is the 2nd time that this happened in 2 months!

Maybe the Melech HaMashiach really is coming very soon!

I vote to DELETE this entire discussion,
which never should have been started.

This Coffee Room should be a place where
Jews respectfully disagree with each other,
by using facts and logic.

This Coffee Room should *NOT* be a place where
Jews make personal attacks against each other,
especially so soon after Tisha BeAv.

This entire discussion is much-too-close to
becoming a personal attack against one person.

Again, I ask that the moderators DELETE this discussion.

Thank you.

Somebody recently told me this:

The Citi “DOUBLE CASH” MasterCard
pays 2% cash-back on all purchases,
regardless of category.

Not “points”, but actual money.

If anyone knows a credit card that gives a better deal,
then please tell all of us, here in the YWN Coffee Room.

Thank you.

HaKatan said:

“The Chazon Ish held that wine owned by a Religious Zionist is yayin nesech.”

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MY RESPONSE:

Prove it, by providing an exact source that all of us can verify.

I suspect you of creating false “facts” to “prove” your beliefs.

Anti-Zionists do that sometimes, because of their excessive kanaus.

Maybe I should send an email to the OU Kashrus Department,
and ask them what they think? Or maybe the Star-K Department?

Bamidbar, chapter 32, verse 6:

Moshe replies to the Tribe of Gad and the Tribe of Reuven:
“Shall your brothers come to war while you remain here?”
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In Tanach, Sefer Shoftim, [the Book of Judges] chapter 5,
the Prophetess Deborah [Devorah HaNeviyah],
sings a Divinely-inspired song.

In chapter 5, verses 12 to 16, the Prophetess Deborah
publicly praises those Jews who fought against the enemies of Israel.

Then she publicly REBUKES those Jews who
did NOT join the fight against the enemies of Israel.

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Tanach, Nechemiah, chapter 4, verse 8:

“And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles,
and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people:
‘Be not afraid of them!

Remember HaShem, who is great and awesome,
and FIGHT FOR YOUR BROTHERS, your sons
and your daughters, your wives and your houses!’”

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Babylonian Talmud, tractate Sanhedrin, page 72A:

“If you see someone coming to kill you,
then arise and kill him first.”

PERSONAL COMMENT:

In our time, Hamas and Hezbollah are coming to kill us.
For Jews to arise and kill them first is not merely permitted,
it is required by Torah Law.

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Shulchan Aruch, chelek Orach Chaim, Siman 329, Sif 6:

עכו”ם שצרו על עיירות ישראל אם באו על עסק ממון אין מחללין עליהם את השבת
באו על עסק נפשות ואפי’ סתם יוצאים עליהם בכלי זיין ומחללים עליהם את השבת
ובעיר הסמוכה לספר אפילו לא באו אלא על עסקי תבן וקש מחללין עליהם את השבת
הגה ואפילו לא באו עדיין אלא רוצים לבא [א”ז]:

(6) Regarding non-Jews who besiege Jewish cities:
If they come for money, we do not desecrate the Shabbat [to protect ourselves],
but if they came to kill or come with no presented reason,
we go out with weapons and desecrate the Shabbat.
In a city that is near the border, even if they just come for straw or hay,
we desecrate the Shabbat.

Rema: Even if they haven’t come but they want to come (Or Zarua).

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Rambam, Hilchot Shabbat, chapter 2, paragraph 23:

[The following rules apply] when gentiles lay siege to Jewish cities:

If their intent was financial gain, then Shabbat laws
should not be violated because of them,
nor are we allowed to wage war against them.

If a city is located near the border, however, we should march
against them with weapons and wage war against them,
even when they are [merely] demanding hay or straw.

In any location, if the gentiles’ intent was [to harm] Jewish lives,
or if they engaged in battle with a city or laid siege to it,
without stating a specific intention, we must wage war against them
and the Shabbat laws should be violated because of them.

It is a mitzvah for every member of the Jewish people
who can come [to their assistance] to go out and
help their brothers who are under siege and save them
from the gentiles [even on] Shabbat.
It is forbidden to delay until after Shabbat.

After they [the Jewish soldiers] saved their brothers,
they [the Jewish soldiers] may return home with
their weapons [even] on Shabbat, so that
a dangerous situation will not be created in the future.

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Once full-scale war broke out after the State of Israel
declared its existence on May 14, 1948 [CE]
Reb Shraga Feivel’s [Mendlowitz] thoughts
were never far from Eretz Yisrael.

A group of students saw him outside the Mesivta building one day,
talking excitedly with Rabbi Gedaliah Schorr and
gesticulating rapidly with the newspaper held in his hand.

“If I were your age,” he told the students,
“I would take a gun and go to Eretz Yisrael.”

SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
the architect of Torah in America (chapter 26, page 338) by Yonoson Rosenblum
for Artscroll / Mesorah, year 2001, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965

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Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan [ZTL ZYA] said this in his HANDBOOK OF
JEWISH THOUGHT, volume II, chapter 3, paragraph 24, top of page 23:

“Experience has shown us that when Jews
are not ready to defend and die for their fellows,
an even greater number are killed in the end.”

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Rabbi Steven Pruzansky [an Orthodox Rabbi who made aliyah] said:

“The IDF [Israeli Army] soldier fulfills three mitzvot
that cannot be fulfilled by the soldier in any other army:

the settlement (Yishuv) of Eretz Yisrael,
preserving Jewish life (Pikuach Nefesh),
and Kiddush HaShem, the sanctification of G-d’s Name,
implicit in the Jewish people exercising sovereignty over our homeland.”

SOURCE: Ask the Rabbi, Part 22 by Rabbi Steven Pruzansky
2023 August 18 from www (dot) RabbiPruzansky (dot) com

Zushy said:

“….somehow prove something about the state?”

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What those quotes prove is that relentless attacks
against The State of Israel and against “The Zionists”
are a very big mistake.

Certain people in this Coffee Room never stop
attacking The State of Israel and never stop
attacking “The Zionists”.

Those never-ending attacks are a very big mistake,
and only cause Jews to HATE EACH OTHER
more than before, and they also push us closer
to a JEWISH CIVIL WAR, with Jews killing other Jews.

Those relentless attacks against The State of Israel
and against “The Zionists” are NOT a mitzvah;
they are motivated by The Satan, who wants
Jews to HATE EACH OTHER more than before.

Those relentless attacks against The State of Israel
and against “The Zionists” are NOT a mitzvah;
they are motivated by The Satan, who wants
to push Jews into to a JEWISH CIVIL WAR, with
Jews shooting at Jews and Jews killing other Jews.

The Satan knows what Chazal teach:

The Jewish people will not be redeemed until
they become UNITED. So the Satan constantly
pushes the anti-Zionists into never-ending attacks
against “The Zionists” and against the world’s
only Jewish State, The State of Israel.

This never-ending lack of unity blocks Jews from being redeemed.
So long as anti-Zionists constantly attack “The Zionists”
and The State of Israel, the redemption can never come,
because Jews are very far from the unity that is requited for redemption.

If you still believe that Agudath Israel of America,
and the Gedolim they represent, want the State of Israel
to be dismantled, then please read this news article:

Yeshivah World News said this:

“Agudath Israel of America released the following statement
condemning the Biden administration’s threat to stop
supplying arms to Israel over the impending invasion of Rafah,
the last remaining Hamas stronghold in Gaza:”

“Agudath Israel of America is deeply troubled by the White House’s
unprecedented decision to cease supplying certain arms to
a country’s whose security the President has reiterated his
ironclad commitment to, especially amidst Israel’s
multifront war against its mortal enemies.”

“Nor is this arms embargo limited to large bombs, but,
according to sources, could include smart bombs designed
to hit targets with precision and artillery – in other words
exactly the tools an army needs to fight while limiting civilian casualties.”

“Agudath Israel appreciates the administration’s longstanding
support for Israel, including supplying the Iron Dome
so Israel may defend itself – as Israel was forced
to do just last month when Iran directly launched
the largest military drone attack in history.
But being allowed to parry an incessant stream of rockets is insufficient.”

“Reasonable minds can differ on military strategies.
We also recognize the President’s record of support
for Israel and commitment to combat antisemitism.
But by publicly creating a rift with Israel in its hour of need
instead of casting full-throated blame on the terrorists
who brutally initiated the war and vow to repeat it,
continue to hold hostages, have refused countless
negotiations for peace, and for whom employing
human shields is a sick military strategy,
the United States is endangering Israel
and providing oxygen to antisemites worldwide.”

SOURCE: article titled: “Agudath Israel Blasts
White House’s Unprecedented Decision to Cease
Supplying Certain Arms to Israel”
2024 May 9 by The Yeshiva World [News]
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2282245/agudath-israel-blasts-white-houses-unprecedented-decision-to-cease-supplying-certain-arms-to-israel.html

“Who cares?” said none2.0.

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I care about correct spelling, and you should too.

When I say “you”, I do not only mean you specifically — I mean everybody.

When non-Jews see that Jews do not spell common words correctly,
is that a Kiddush HaShem? Or is it the opposite of Kiddush HaShem?

If you do not spell words correctly, then do not feel surprised
when people who read your words do not understand your words.

When Rabbi Yisroel HaLevi Belsky ZTL ZYA was a student,
he excelled in ALL subjects, including Math and all Secular studies.

Sefer Pele Yoetz is a classic Mussar sefer.
Sefer Pele Yoetz, Perek Ctav, teaches that every Jew
should know the language of the country that he lives in.
Why would that not include correct spelling?

I was talking about nutrition problems in this YWN Coffee Room in January 2024:

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/ethics-and-entenmanns

The correct spelling is “ad hominem”.

If dismantling the State of Israel (G*D forbid) is the correct derech,
then why has this idea *** NEVER *** been endorsed by organizations
that represent Orthodox Jews and Orthodox Judaism, including:
Agudath Israel, The Orthodox Union (OU),
and the National Council of Young Israel (NCYI)?

If dismantling the State of Israel (G*D forbid) is the correct derech,
then why has this idea *** NEVER *** been endorsed by
a public statement from the Moetzes Gedolei Torah?

I am not talking about the words of one or two specific Rabbis;
I am talking about all 9 members of the Moetzes Gedolei Torah
getting together at the same time, followed by a public statement
about dismantling the State of Israel (G*D forbid).

This has *** NEVER *** happened, Baruch HaShem!!!!

And it never will happen, because dismantling the
State of Israel would result in all of these tragedies:

[1] A Jewish Civil War, with Jews killing each other.

[2] Soon followed by ANOTHER HOLOCAUST,
in which most Jews in Israel would be killed,
including children and babies.

[3] The complete destruction of all synagogues,
yeshivahs, mikvahs and holy places in Eretz Yisrael.

[4] Hundreds of thousands of Jews becoming homeless and losing their possessions.

[5] Hundreds of thousands of Jews becoming hostages of Muslims and being tortured by Muslims.

Anyone who advocates for dismantling of the State of Israel
(G*D forbid) is therefore a RODAIF and not just once,
but 8,000,000 times for the 8,000,000 Jews in Eretz Israel.

Anyone who advocates for dismantling of the State of Israel
(G*D forbid) is therefore a MOSAIR and not just once,
but 8,000,000 times for the 8,000,000 Jews in Eretz Israel.

What is the appropriate punishment for someone who is a RODAIF 8,000,000 times?
What is the appropriate punishment for someone who is a MOSAIR 8,000,000 times?