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The correct spelling is “ad hominem”.
July 20, 2025 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm in reply to: The Goyish Concept of Diamond Engagement Rings and Brides Wearing White Gowns #2426918SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYTValumni, what you just said, I said it here, in this YWN Coffee Room, 2.5 years ago:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-to-reduce-the-cost-of-getting-married
This is what I said here, 2.5 years ago:
“The Diamond Engagement Ring is part of American — not Jewish — culture,
and it is only found in places where American culture is influential.There has never been a Halachic requirement to give a Diamond Engagement Ring.
Therefore, eliminating the Diamond Engagement Ring
is a great way to reduce the cost of getting married.
There should be no Engagement Ring, even without a diamond.”July 18, 2025 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2426851SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIf dismantling the State of Israel (G*D forbid) is the correct derech,
then why has this idea *** NEVER *** been endorsed by organizations
that represent Orthodox Jews and Orthodox Judaism, including:
Agudath Israel, The Orthodox Union (OU),
and the National Council of Young Israel (NCYI)?If dismantling the State of Israel (G*D forbid) is the correct derech,
then why has this idea *** NEVER *** been endorsed by
a public statement from the Moetzes Gedolei Torah?I am not talking about the words of one or two specific Rabbis;
I am talking about all 9 members of the Moetzes Gedolei Torah
getting together at the same time, followed by a public statement
about dismantling the State of Israel (G*D forbid).This has *** NEVER *** happened, Baruch HaShem!!!!
And it never will happen, because dismantling the
State of Israel would result in all of these tragedies:[1] A Jewish Civil War, with Jews killing each other.
[2] Soon followed by ANOTHER HOLOCAUST,
in which most Jews in Israel would be killed,
including children and babies.[3] The complete destruction of all synagogues,
yeshivahs, mikvahs and holy places in Eretz Yisrael.[4] Hundreds of thousands of Jews becoming homeless and losing their possessions.
[5] Hundreds of thousands of Jews becoming hostages of Muslims and being tortured by Muslims.
Anyone who advocates for dismantling of the State of Israel
(G*D forbid) is therefore a RODAIF and not just once,
but 8,000,000 times for the 8,000,000 Jews in Eretz Israel.Anyone who advocates for dismantling of the State of Israel
(G*D forbid) is therefore a MOSAIR and not just once,
but 8,000,000 times for the 8,000,000 Jews in Eretz Israel.What is the appropriate punishment for someone who is a RODAIF 8,000,000 times?
What is the appropriate punishment for someone who is a MOSAIR 8,000,000 times?SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYankel Berel said:
“There were two entities who had a problem
with the Jewish mass return to Eretz Yisrael:The Vatican and Satmar.”
__________________________________________That is because Satmar stands for “Saint Mary”, from the Catholic Church.
Therefore, the Satmar Rebbe is the Rebbe of “Saint Mary”, from the Catholic Church.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantANYONE SURPRISED? House Report Reveals Biden Funded Anti-Israel Protests and Terror-Linked Group
The House Judiciary and Foreign Affairs Committees have detailed a sprawling web of U.S. taxpayer-funded grants—disbursed under the Biden-Harris Administration—that may have helped bankroll anti-government protests in Israel and even reached the hands of organizations with alleged ties to terrorism.
The investigation, which began with March letters to six U.S. and Israeli nonprofits, has already uncovered what lawmakers describe as “deeply disturbing” evidence of federal funds being used to influence foreign politics and destabilize a key American ally—Israel. But the findings go further, alleging potential criminal violations of tax law, the misuse of nonprofit status, and financial entanglements with terror-linked groups.
From Washington to Tel Aviv: A Financial Trail of Influence
At the heart of the inquiry is Blue White Future (BWF), an Israeli nonprofit founded to promote a two-state solution but which morphed into a political actor leading the charge against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s judicial reform agenda. Investigators allege that BWF operated as the de facto headquarters of the protest movement, labeling Netanyahu’s elected government a “dictatorship” and coordinating opposition strategy.
BWF reportedly received $4 million from the Middle East Peace Dialogue Network (MEPDN) and a staggering $18 million from the U.S.-based PEF Israel Endowment Funds (PEF)—organizations that, in turn, received money from U.S. government grant recipients, including Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors (RPA).
The memo includes a detailed flowchart outlining how millions in USAID and State Department grants may have been laundered—legally or not—through layers of philanthropic intermediaries before ending up in the hands of politically active Israeli NGOs. Some of these groups are accused of operating outside the legal bounds of nonprofit activity, both in the U.S. and Israel.
Indoctrination in Israeli Schools
One particularly incendiary finding centers on the Movement for Quality Government in Israel (MQG), a radical legal group that has used the Israeli court system to thwart Netanyahu’s government. The Biden administration reportedly gave MQG $42,000 to run a “Civic Activism Training” program for high school students in Jerusalem—teaching teenagers how to protest, report on political corruption, and challenge government authority.
Critics of the program—including Israeli parents and government advisers—compared it to U.S.-style progressive indoctrination, warning that such curricula “gut Israel’s Jewish character” and serve as a foreign-funded pipeline for political agitation.
U.S. Funds Traced to Terror-Linked Groups
Perhaps most alarming is the Committee’s charge that U.S. taxpayer dollars were indirectly funneled to NGOs with ties to terrorist organizations, including Hamas and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
The Committee highlighted the Bayader Association in Gaza, which received nearly $1 million in U.S. funding despite hosting joint events with Hamas leaders—including Ismail Haniyeh’s son. The funding reportedly continued just days before the October 7 Hamas massacre in Israel.
Similarly, the Unlimited Friends Association (UFA), another Gaza-based group, received U.S. dollars while openly praising “martyrs” and disseminating antisemitic content calling to “cleanse Al-Aqsa from the impurity of the Jews.”
One U.S.-based group under fire is the Palestine Children’s Relief Fund (PCRF), which allegedly received indirect funding through the Tides Network and Rockefeller Philanthropy, despite a record of erasing Palestinian terrorism and operating from a Gaza hospital that was later discovered to conceal Hamas weapons and hostages.
The Alliance for Global Justice, a radical U.S. nonprofit, is also in the crosshairs for supporting Samidoun, a group the U.S. Treasury recently labeled a sham charity funneling money to the PFLP. Samidoun activists were seen celebrating the October 7 attacks and conducting “Resistance 101” workshops on U.S. college campuses.
The Committees say the investigation is far from over. Additional NGOs—both American and Israeli—are being subpoenaed for records, and lawmakers are pressing Biden-era officials for accountability. Federal agencies including USAID and the State Department are now under intense scrutiny over their grant-vetting processes.
(YWN World Headquarters – NYC)
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantHaKatan:
Mr. Menachem Begin (Israel’s Prime Minister),
was SHOMER SHABBAT (at least partially),
and he studied Tanach often.He would walk to meetings on Shabbat,
instead of driving a car, which is prohibited on Shabbat.July 16, 2025 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm in reply to: Three Oaths essay from Rabbi Avraham Rivlin of Kerem B’Yavneh #2426112SQUARE_ROOTParticipantUJM & SomeJewIKnow & HaKatan are fraudulently dreying a kop.
They claim that its preferable to let 8 million innocent Yehudim DIE,
rather than transgress their corrupt version of irrelevant non-Halachic “3 Oaths”.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantFor Muslims, religious truths are not decided by logic.
They are decided by military conquest,
when Muslims conquer non-Muslims.When Muslims suffer military defeats from non-Muslims,
it is not merely a military problem; is is a theological problem,
it is a religious problem, is is a problem of religious faith.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantBesalel: Thank you for your true explanation!
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantAlways_Ask_Questions said:
Some other Rav writes how Jews were sent to
Golus to collect good middos from all nations.
__________________________________________If I remember correctly, that might have been
Rabbi Tzadok HaKohen Rabinowitz of Lublin.July 16, 2025 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm in reply to: Matzav article about Golus and Eretz Yisrael #2425751SQUARE_ROOTParticipantResponding to HaKatan:
Religious Zionism is part of the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu:
Just look at the first Rashi on Chumash.
Just look at the first mitzvah that G*D gave to Avraham Avinu.
Just look at the many tractates of Mishnah that apply ONLY in Eretz Yisrael.
Just look at the 6th book of Tanach, Sefer Yehoshua.
Just look at the direction we must pray towards every day — Eretz Yisrael.
Just look at the Talmud, which teaches that
“whoever lives outside the Land of Israel,
he is considered as if he has no G*D.:Since Religious Zionism is part of the Torah, those who
attack Religious Zionism are ignorant wicked heretics.======================================
HaKatan also said that The Three Oaths are “undisputed halacha”.
Yet they are NEVER MENTIONED in Yad HaChazakah or Shulchan Aruch.
Additionally, the nations of the world approved the creation
of a Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael in 1920 CE and again in 1948 CE.
Therefore, The Three Oaths cannot apply in our times.======================================
FACT: Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman died in 1941 of the Common Era.
FACT: The State of Israel was founded in year 1948 of the Common Era.
CONCLUSION: Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman NEVER SAW the State of Israel.
He never saw the miraculous victory of the 1967 CE “Six Day War”,
that started a Baal Teshuvah movement that lasted half-a-century.He never saw the formation of religious units of the Israeli Army,
like the Nachal Chareidi and the newly-formed Chashmonaim Brigade.======================================
FACT: Sefer VaYoel Moshe was written in the 1950s,
when Israel was still a Socialist state.FACT: The State of Israel abandoned Socialism around 40 years ago.
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HaKatan’s arguments have been refuted many times.
Yet he never changes his arguments; instead he just repeats
them endlessly, as if they has not been refuted many times.And he never admits that people who disagree with him have valid logic.
The unrealistic policies that he advocates would certainly
lead the Jewish people towards a Jewish Civil War,
with Jews murdering Jews, followed by massive attacks
on Eretz Yisrael that would cause another Holocaust.This makes HaKatan an apikuris and a rodaif and a mosair.
And not just once, but 8 million times, for 8 million Jews.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantChaim87, you forgot to mention Neturei Karta marching on Shabbos.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIf Rabbi Lazer Brody were here, he would probably say
that both you and your daughter must have emunah
that her not getting into the local seminaries was:
“ALL FOR THE BEST (Gam Zu LeTovah)”, and you both
must believe that G*D has done this for your Ultimate Benefit,
even though we do not understand His plan.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhat could possibly go wrong in a community
where everyone is absolutely required to:
dress exactly the same, speak exactly the same,
learn exactly the same, pray exactly the same,
think exactly the same, date exactly the same, etc, etc?There is no way that some people might try to
go off-the-derech, because they feel that
they have no individuality and no freedom!Especially when the smallest deviations from
100% conformity are punished with: ostracism,
accusations, humiliation, and exclusion –
that is definitely never a problem.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYankel Berel, what you just said is obviously 100% true.
Only the most brainwashed haters and worst trolls would disagree with what you just said.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhich Russian-Jewish Soldiers are we talking about?
Russian-Jewish Soldiers in Eretz Yisrael?
Russian-Jewish Soldiers in USA?
Russian-Jewish Soldiers Russia?
Russian-Jewish Soldiers Europe?July 10, 2025 1:47 am at 1:47 am in reply to: Gedolei Poskim in EY Again: All Jews Are Forever Forbidden From IDF. Why? #2423381SQUARE_ROOTParticipanttunaisafish — What you just said contradicts Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky ZTL ZYA:
Reb Yaakov [Kamenetsky] felt that but for
the creation of the State in 1948 [CE] a million Jews
would have become assimilated as a result of
the despair that followed the Holocaust and
attributed the renascence [rebirth] of Soviet Jewry
to the miraculous Israeli military victory in 1967..…
Similarly, he [Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky] concluded, recognition of
Israel’s role in preventing millions of Jews
from losing any connection to the Jewish people
must mitigate our kana’us, even as
our love for our fellow Jews in Eretz Yisrael
must “not blind us to [their] shortcomings.”SOURCE: Reb Yaakov: The Life and Times of HaGaon
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky by Yonason Rosenblum,
based on the research of Rabbi Noson Kamenetsky (chapter 11, page 209),
Mesorah Publications, publication dates: February 1993 & January 2004,
ISBN: 0-89906-413-2 (hardcover)
ISBN: 0-89906-415-9 (paperback)SQUARE_ROOTParticipantnone2.0 — What are you trying to prove?
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantnone2.0 — What are you trying to prove?
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThey smile because they no longer need to pay rent every month, to avoid becoming homeless.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhat is the exact source of this Rambam?
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantUJM said: “Jews in Eretz Yisroel are in Golus.”
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Even if that is true, there are still many Torah Laws [Halachot]
that apply ONLY in Eretz Yisrael, even in our times.In the early 1800s of the Common Era, Rabbi Nachman of Breslov
taught that tefilah in Eretz Yisrael is much greater than
tefilah outside of Eretz Yisrael, even in his times.Therefore, the concept that “Jews in Eretz Yisroel are in Golus”
seems to NOT apply to tefilah and NOT apply to mitzvot that
are specifically related to Eretz Yisrael, like terumot and maaserot.We do NOT add an additional day of Yom Tov in Eretz Yisrael,
even in our times, which seems to indicate that Eretz Yisrael
is NOT galus, with respect to the .Yomim Tovim.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIf Jews who live in Eretz Yisrael are living in golus,
then Jews who live in New York City or Lakewood
are living in DOUBLE GOLUS, and Jews who live in
Oregon or Oklahoma are living in TRIPLE GOLUS.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThat DOES NOT justify the Neturei Karta marching, ON SHABBOS,
in support of bloodthirsty brainwashed Muslim terrorists,
who want to KILL ALL JEWS, including: men, women, teenagers,
children, infants, babies, pro-Zionists, non-Zionists and anti-Zionists.While many millions of people watch them on television and internet.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantUJM said:
“Eretz Yisroel is in Golus. Anyone who claims otherwise is an apikorus.”
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MY RESPONSE:How many times did the Rabbis of the Mishnah say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?How many times did the Rabbis of the Jerusalem Talmud say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?How many times did the Rabbis of the Babylonian Talmud say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?How many times did the Rabbis of the Midrash say:
“Anyone who disagrees with me is apikorus”?I believe that the correct answers to these questions is approximately 0.
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis article is from YWN (Yeshiva World News) World Headquarters in NYC:
__________________________________________Israel’s Interior Minister Moshe Arbel on Monday permanently
revoked the entry visa of Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss —
the twisted American spokesman for the fringe Neturei Karta
movement — after Weiss was photographed meeting
Iran’s foreign minister in Brazil and praising Tehran.Arbel, invoking rarely used emergency powers under
the Law of Return, barred Weiss from ever setting foot
in Israel, declaring he “will not allow anyone who
acts against the State of Israel and identifies with its enemies to enter it.”Weiss, 69, traveled this week to São Paulo to participate in
events around the BRICS summit. According to Iranian state media,
he held talks with Iranian Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi,
offered him flowers, and signed a memorial book for
“martyrs of Zionist attacks on Iran.”
Images posted online showed Weiss denouncing Israel
to Araghchi’s face — a move Arbel called crossing “a red line.”Weiss has long relished the role of provocateur, championing
Iran and other sworn enemies of the Jewish state. In 2006,
he was filmed in Tehran at a government-sponsored
Holocaust denial conference, and over the years has
repeatedly praised Hezbollah, Hamas,
and Iranian leadership while demonizing Israel.A resident of Monsey, New York, Weiss is the most visible
face of Neturei Karta. His activities have left him ostracized
by virtually every mainstream Orthodox Jewish body in the world.Israeli officials said Monday that Tehran was exploiting high-profile
meetings with Jewish dissidents like Weiss to push propaganda
delegitimizing Israel’s right to defend itself.“The message is clear,” Arbel said.
“There will be zero tolerance for Jewish collaborators
who embrace those who seek Israel’s destruction.”SOURCE: article titled: “LONG OVERDUE: Israel Bans Neturei Karta’s
Yisroel Dovid Weiss for Cozying Up to Iran’s Foreign Minister”
2025 July 7, YWN (Yeshiva World News) World Headquarters in NYCSQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Jonathan Sacks [ZTL ZYA] said this
in his essay titled: “The New Antisemitism”:“In the past, Jews were hated because they were rich and because they were poor;
because they were capitalists (Marx) and because they were communists (Hitler);
because they kept to themselves and because they infiltrated everywhere;
because they held tenaciously to a superstitious faith (Voltaire)
and because they were rootless cosmopolitans who believed nothing (Stalin).
Antisemitism is NOT an ideology, a coherent set of beliefs.
It is, in fact, an endless stream of contradictions.”
CONCLUSION:
Blaming Jews (including “The Zionists”) for anti-Semitism is unfair, ignorant, and stupid.PS: I do not know where “SomeJewIKnow” went to.
Maybe he made aliyah and joined the Israeli Army
as part of an elite combat unit?July 3, 2025 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2421309SQUARE_ROOTParticipantSeveral weeks ago, one of the fanatical anti-Zionists
who often comments in this Coffee Room suggested
that the State of Israel could be dismantled peacefully,
because the former Soviet Union (USSR) was dismantled peacefully.The former Soviet Union (USSR) was VERY DIFFERENT from Israel.
The former Soviet Union (USSR) was NOT surrounded by
hundreds of millions of fanatical bloodthirsty terrorists
whose religious beliefs required them to KILL as many Russians as possible.The Soviet Union was NOT surrounded by hundreds of millions
of brainwashed death-cult terrorists whose religious beliefs
required them to commit genocide by killing ALL Russians.In others words, the former Soviet Union (USSR) could be
dismantled peacefully, because they were NOT surrounded
by countless millions of relentless bloodthirsty terrorist enemies,
like Israel is.Peaceful dismantlement is NOT POSSIBLE for Israel, because
of the hundreds of millions of fanatical bloodthirsty terrorists
whose religious beliefs required them to KILL as many Jews as possible.Peaceful dismantlement is NOT POSSIBLE for Israel,
because of the hundreds of millions of brainwashed
death-cult terrorists whose religion requires them
to commit genocide against Jews by killing ALL Jews.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantEvery member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of Hamas.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of Hezbollah.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Houthis.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Taliban.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Iranian Ayatollahs.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of genocidal Jew-haters.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorists who shot 36,000 rockets at Jews.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorists who kidnap and murder Jewish children.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorists who murdered 1,200+ Jews on 2023 October 7.
HaKatan & UJM & SomeJewIKnow are allies of the Neturei Karta.
July 2, 2025 10:12 am at 10:12 am in reply to: Matzav article about Golus and Eretz Yisrael #2420513SQUARE_ROOTParticipantAnti-Zionism is not new.
The meraglim in the time of Moshe Rabbeinu were the original anti-Zionists.
If the meraglim were alive today, they would be the Neturei Karta,
and the Jews of the anti-Zionist yeshivahs.Yehoshua and Calev were Religious Zionists; they wanted to enter Eretz Yisrael,
even if it meant fighting battles that would take them away from full-time Torah study.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWhen Joe Biden was President, the USA government
gave tens of millions of dollars to THE NEW YORK TIMES.In August 2024, the USA government gave $4.1 millions dollars
to THE NEW YORK TIMES, and that was one of many payments.All of this money came from the unfortunate taxpayers,
without their consent and without their knowledge.So now we know why the newspapers were always
so eager to attack the Republicans and cover-up
for the Democrats and defend the Democrats.So now we know why the newspapers always
tell lies and falsehoods to defend the Democrats.June 30, 2025 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2419947SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYankel Berel:
PLEASE say “Pikuach Nefesh” because not everyone knows what “P / N” is.
THANK YOU!!
June 30, 2025 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm in reply to: Matzav article about Golus and Eretz Yisrael #2419884SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThe Religious Zionist Jews are like Yehoshua and Calev,
who wanted to fight to conquer Eretz Yisrael.The Chareidim are like the meraglim, who wanted to avoid
conquering Eretz Yisrael, so they could study Torah full-time,
without interruptions that would be caused by: fighting wars,
building houses and roads, and planting and harvesting crops.SQUARE_ROOTParticipantIn 1925 the average American female was 63 inches tall and weighed 125 pounds.
In 2025 the average American female was 63 inches tall and weighed 170 pounds.June 30, 2025 9:23 am at 9:23 am in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2419595SQUARE_ROOTParticipantBabylonian Talmud, tractate Sanhedrin, page 72A:
“If you see someone coming to kill you, then arise and kill him first.”
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PERSONAL COMMENT:In our time, Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthis are coming to kill us.
For Jews to arise and kill them first is not merely permitted,
it is required by Torah Law.June 30, 2025 9:22 am at 9:22 am in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2419594SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRambam, Hilchot Shabbat, chapter 2, paragraph 23:
[The following rules apply] when gentiles lay siege to Jewish cities:
If their intent was financial gain, then Shabbat laws should not
be violated because of them, nor are we allowed to wage war against them.If a city is located near the border, however,
we should march against them with weapons and wage war against them,
even when they are [merely] demanding hay or straw.In any location, if the gentiles’ intent was [to harm] Jewish lives,
or if they engaged in battle with a city or laid siege to it,
without stating a specific intention, we must wage war against them
and the Shabbat laws should be violated because of them.It is a mitzvah for every member of the Jewish people
who can come [to their assistance] to go out and help their brothers
who are under siege and save them from the gentiles [even on] Shabbat.
It is forbidden to delay until after Shabbat.After they [the Jewish soldiers] saved their brothers,
they [the Jewish soldiers] may return home with their weapons
[even] on Shabbat, so that a dangerous situation will not be created in the future.June 30, 2025 9:22 am at 9:22 am in reply to: The Peaceful Dismantlement of the State of “Israel” #2419593SQUARE_ROOTParticipantShulchan Aruch, chelek Orach Chaim, Siman 329, Sif 6:
עכו”ם שצרו על עיירות ישראל אם באו על עסק ממון אין מחללין עליהם את השבת
באו על עסק נפשות ואפי’ סתם יוצאים עליהם בכלי זיין ומחללים עליהם את השבת
ובעיר הסמוכה לספר אפילו לא באו אלא על עסקי תבן וקש מחללין עליהם את השבת
הגה ואפילו לא באו עדיין אלא רוצים לבא [א”ז]:(6) Regarding non-Jews who besiege Jewish cities:
If they come for money, we do not desecrate the Shabbat [to protect ourselves],
but if they came to kill or come with no presented reason,
we go out with weapons and desecrate the Shabbat.In a city that is near the border, even if they just come for straw or hay,
we desecrate the Shabbat.Rem”a: Even if they haven’t come but they want to come (Or Zarua).
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FULL DISCLOSURE:
This is not my English translation;
I just copied it from www (dot) sefaria (dot) com.
____________________________________________________________________________CONCLUSION:
Those who say that are not permitted to “physically fight the enemy”
[like “SomeJewIKnow”] are contradicting the Shulchan Aruch and Rambam.____________________________________________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:
A few weeks ago, “SomeJewIKnow” falsely slandered me,
on this web site, and in this Coffee Room, by falsely claiming
that I think that women should be Gedolei Torah.I NEVER believed that, and I NEVER said that,
and I NEVER said anything similar to his false slander against me.A few weeks ago, “SomeJewIKnow” falsely slandered me,
on this web site, and in this Coffee Room, by falsely claiming
that I think that believers in J—– should be Gedolei Torah.I NEVER believed that, and I NEVER said that,
and I NEVER said anything similar to his false slander against me.SomeJewIKnow does not know Halachah, and he is a Baal Motzi Shem Ra.
June 26, 2025 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm in reply to: Communist Jihadist Wins Democrat Primary in New York #2418843SQUARE_ROOTParticipantUJM just said something that I agree with 100%.
Will miracles never cease?
Maybe mashiach really is coming soon!
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantMore comments from Youtube about the Neturei Karta (yemach shemam):
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@Assaf_yosef said this:“Neturei Karta are not my brothers. There are my enemies!”
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@akivatalansky said this:“Chilul Hashem.”
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@zvibrunner596 said this:“These Neturei Karta are a bunch of fakers seeking attention.
They are the Erev Rav.”__________________________________________
@richardmessina9475 said this:“Neturei Karta are Palestinians in Jewish clothing!!”
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@Roitblog7 said this:“Guardians of The Gates of Hell, maybe. NK is not Jewish!”
__________________________________________June 26, 2025 10:04 am at 10:04 am in reply to: Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky and the modern State of Israel #2418472SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 552:“… secular Israeli officials viewed Rabbi Sherer [as]
one of the major American Jewish leaders,
and highly valued his eagerness to assist Israel …”__________________________________________
SOURCE: “Rabbi Sherer: the paramount Torah spokesman of our era”
by Yonasan Rosenblum, Mesorah Publications, Brooklyn, NY, year 2010 CE,
ISBN-10: 1422609448 & ISBN-13: 978-1422609446__________________________________________
Rabbi Moshe Sherer joined Agudath Israel as its Executive Vice President
in year 1941 CE and became its President in year 1963 CE.His official titles included:
Co-Chairman of the Agudath Israel World Organization
and Chairman of Agudath Israel of America.He held those titles until his death in year 1998 CE.
Agudath Israel traditionally follows the guidance of Chareidi Gedolim.
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PERSONAL COMMENT:This short quote proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer was
EAGER to assist Israel, even though Israel was a
Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
__________________________________________SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Avi Shafran, director of public affairs for
Agudath Israel of America, said Neturei Karta’s
trip to Teheran [Iran] was the last straw.“They have overstayed their welcome in the community.
No one has patience for them,” he said.
“Their actions are beyond the pale.”SOURCE: by Jerusalem Post staff, 2007 January 28, JPost (dot) com
SQUARE_ROOTParticipantEvery member of the Neturei Karta is a LUNATIC.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is a LIAR.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is a RODAIF.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is a MOSAIR.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is a CHILLUL HASHEM.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is a SHONDA FOR THE G0Y1M.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is a FANATICAL JEW-HATER.
June 25, 2025 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm in reply to: Gedolei Poskim in EY Again: All Jews Are Forever Forbidden From IDF. Why? #2418172SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYankel Berel, over the past two years, I have noticed many times
that fanatical anti-Zionists like HaKatan, UJM and SomeJewIKnow
ignore logic and facts that they cannot refute.They are totally stubborn and brainwashed, and they cannot be
reasoned with. We cannot ignore the possibility that they are
being paid by Iran or Hamas or Hezbollah, to constantly attack Israel.They also tell many lies: lies against Israel, lies against secular Zionists,
lies against religious Zionists, and lies against people who disagree with them.HaKatan, UJM and SomeJewIKnow are not merely Baalei Lashon HaRa;
they are Baalei Motzi Shem Ra, and they did it many times.___________________________________________________________________
Anyone who wants to take possessions from one Jew,
and give his possessions to goyim, he is a MOSER.The anti-Zionists want to take away take possessions
from 8,000,000 Jews and give them to Muslims.
This makes the anti-Zionists MOSER 8,000,000 times.___________________________________________________________________
Anyone who endangers the life of one Jew is a RODAIF.The anti-Zionists want to endanger the lives of 8,000,000 Jews.
This makes the anti-Zionists RODAIF 8,000,000 times.
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What is the punishment for being a MOSAIR 8,000,000 times?
What is the punishment for being a RODAIF 8,000,000 times?
June 25, 2025 10:48 am at 10:48 am in reply to: Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky and the modern State of Israel #2417735SQUARE_ROOTParticipantAlways_Ask_Questions said this in
the YWN Coffee Room on 2025 March 25,
in a discussion titled “Three Oaths essay
from Rabbi Avraham Rivlin of Kerem B’Yavneh”:Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky writes in his
Emes Le-Ya’akov Al Ha-Torah (Exodus 12:2 n. 17):It is incumbent on us to understand that the establishment of
the state of Israel in our day, after the great destruction and
despair that overtook the remnant, and given the desperate
and destroyed status of Russian Jewry, God caused the
establishment of the state of Israel in order to strengthen
the connection to Judaism and to sustain
the link between the Jews in exile and the Jewish nation.__________________________________________
Always_Ask_Questions said this in
the YWN Coffee Room on 2025 March 25,
in a discussion titled “Three Oaths essay
from Rabbi Avraham Rivlin of Kerem B’Yavneh”:Rabbi Eliyahu Dessler has two relevant letters,
from 1948 [CE] and 1949 [CE], that were published
in Mikhtav Me-Eliyahu, volume 3 pages 349 to 353.He writes that he is hesitant to call the establishment of
the state of Israel and the ensuing military victory the
beginning of the Redemption, but he considers it a possibility
(i.e. a Hopeful Zionist position).He also has harsh words for anyone who refuses
to see God’s miraculous intervention in this,
considering them heretics who reject Divine Providence.June 24, 2025 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm in reply to: Rabbi Moshe Sherer and the modern State of Israel #2416978SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Moshe Sherer joined Agudath Israel as its Executive Vice President
in year 1941 CE and became its President in year 1963 CE.His official titles included:
Co-Chairman of the Agudath Israel World Organization
and Chairman of Agudath Israel of America.He held those titles until his death in year 1998 CE.
Agudath Israel traditionally follows the guidance of Chareidi Gedolim.
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The Wikipedia article about Rabbi Moshe Sherer says this exactly:“Throughout his career Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer strongly
supported the State of Israel and advocated on its behalf.”In 1975 [CE], after the infamous “Zionism is Racism” United Nations resolution,
[Rabbi Moshe] Sherer, then-President of Agudath Israel of America, wrote that:“Though the resolution was supposedly aimed only at secular ‘Zionism’…
the slander is an attack on the entire Jewish people.”Even if the hatred was aimed only at certain Jews, he continued,
“we (Agudath Israel adherents) would feel precisely
the same responsibility to come to the defense of our brethren.He also said:
While we may have our own quarrel with secular Zionism,
when Jews are libeled, their affiliation does not matter;
our love for our brothers and sisters draws us to their side.”But what is more, he stressed,
“the U. N. resolution is aimed at ALL Jews,
for it assails the historical Jewish right to Eretz Yisrael.
The Torah bestowed that right, and any attack on it
is an attack on Judaism and the Jewish people.”__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENTS:This short quote shows that Rabbi Moshe Sherer ZTL ZYA
considered a non-Jewish attack against “secular Zionism”
to be an “attack on the entire Jewish people”.He also referred to Secular Zionists as “our brothers”,
for whom we have “love”.He also mentioned “the historical Jewish right to Eretz Yisrael”,
and “The Torah bestowed that right.”
This comment strongly implies that he rejected the belief
that “The Three Oaths” are binding in our times.June 23, 2025 7:07 am at 7:07 am in reply to: Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky and the modern State of Israel #2416401SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547, footnote 9:When Rabbi Porush conveyed these sentiments to
Rabbi [Elazar] Shach, the latter responded,
“We must pray for the health of [Prime Minister Menachem] Begin.Please phone [Prime Minister Menachem] Begin immediately
and tell him that I [Rabbi Elazar Shach] pray for him constantly.”__________________________________________
SOURCE: “Rabbi Sherer: the paramount Torah spokesman of our era”
by Yonasan Rosenblum, Mesorah Publications, Brooklyn, NY, year 2010 CE,
ISBN-10: 1422609448 & ISBN-13: 978-1422609446__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that Rabbi Elazar Shach ZTL ZYA prayed
for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin, “constantly”,
even though Mr. Menachem Begin was the leader of a secular Zionist state!__________________________________________
PS: If you doubt that my quotes are accurate,
then I invite you to find a copy of the book that I mentioned,
and turn to the chapter number and page numbers that I mentioned.
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_________________________June 22, 2025 12:57 am at 12:57 am in reply to: Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky and the modern State of Israel #2415498SQUARE_ROOTParticipantLerntminTayrah said this in the YWN Coffee Room:
“Rav Shach zt”l was certainly no Zionist, and the
anti-Zionists here have a slew of quotes from him.Yet, when Menachem Begin asked for a bracha of success
for the Osirak reactor destruction, Rav Shach zt”l gave it.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
Mr. Menachem Begin was the leader of a secular Zionist state!
June 22, 2025 12:57 am at 12:57 am in reply to: Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky and the modern State of Israel #2415497SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:“Such a committee of investigation would have served
as a ploy to unseat Prime Minister Menachem Begin,
for whom both the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah
of America and that of Eretz Yisrael had great respect.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that the Gedolim had
“great respect” for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a Secular Zionist state!June 22, 2025 12:57 am at 12:57 am in reply to: Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky and the modern State of Israel #2415494SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:In a fascinating letter to Rabbi Menachem Porush,
written half a year after Israel’s dramatic victory
in the Six-Day War [in year 1967 CE], Rabbi Sherer
agreed “that what transpired were great miracles.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
disagreed with those who said that Israel’s dramatic victory
in the Six-Day War resulted from the sitra achra (satanic forces).Rabbi Menachem Porush was a member of Knesset for Agudath Israel
between 1959 and 1975 CE, and again from 1977 until 1994 CE.
The Jewish Press published Rabbi Porush’s articles hundreds of times.June 19, 2025 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm in reply to: circa 1900: Letter from Lubavitcher Rebbe, the Heresy of “Religious” Zionism #2415121SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThe most recent Rebbe of Chabad / Lubavich
(Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson)
was strongly opposed to Israel giving away
ANY land, even “in exchange for peace”.Given the choice between Eretz Yisrael ruled by Secular Zionists,
and Eretz Yisrael ruled by Arabs or Muslims,
Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson strongly preferred
that Eretz Yisrael be ruled by the Secular Zionists.He would have VERY VERY strongly opposed UJM’s
insane plan to “peacefully”dismantle the only Jewish State. -
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