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Chabad / Lubavitch was originally anti-Zionist,
but then they later became pro-Zionist.I do not know when or why Chabad
changed from anti-Zionist to pro-Zionist.But I know that they did make that change.
Recent news reports say that 1.4 million (1,400,000)
ILLEGAL ALIENS are receiving Medicare health benefits,
AT THE EXPENSE OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS!!.Recent news reports say that 7 million (7,000,000)
ILLEGAL ALIENS are receiving Social Security payments,
AT THE EXPENSE OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS!!The Democrat Party has ZERO mercy for the taxpayers.
PLEASE, never vote for ANY member of the Democrat Party!!
NEVER!! NEVER!! NEVER!!
Dear Mr. “Some Jew I Know”,
Let me get this straight.
Anyone who disagrees with you is guilty
of “kefira” and trying to “destroy yiddishkeit”?If the Rabbis of the Talmud had taken that
attitude towards each other, then the Talmud
never could have been written!You, and the other anti-Zionists, are very eager
to accuse people who disagree with you of
major sins like “kefira” and “destroying yiddishkeit”
and worshiping idols, yet you seem to not understand
that big accusations require big proof and big evidence,You are much too eager to accuse people who disagree
with you of committing major sins with little or no evidence.If I wanted to, I could bring many proofs that the
anti-Zionists are guilty of kefira.But unlike you, i am not eager to accuse people
who disagree with me of kefira or idol-worship.Constantly accusing those who disagrees with you
of major sins like “kefira” and “destroying yiddishkeit”
and worshiping idols, will not lead to teshuvah;
it will lead to a Jewish Civil War, with Jews
shooting at each other and killing each other.I know that you will NEVER LISTEN to anything I say,
but I had to try, so I can tell the Beth Din Shel Maalah that:“I tried to warn them, but they refused to listen.”
Sincerely,
SQUARE_ROOTUJM said:
“YU never produced a single godol in all its history.”
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DaMoshe said:“Joe, now you’re just flat-out lying. R’ Hershel Schachter,
R’ Mordechai Willig, and R’ Aharon Soloveichik
are a few that immediately come to mind.”———————————————————-
MY RESPONSE:Add to that list Rabbi Pinchas Scheinberg,
who graduated from Yeshivah University
and got semichah from Yeshivah University.ArtScroll / Mesorah published his biography
in year 2013 CE, and ArtScroll only
publishes biographies of Charedi gedolim.DaMoshe, you should understand how UJM thinks:
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In his world, ONLY Chareidi Rabbis can be Gedolim.In his world, ONLY anti-Zionist Rabbis can be Gedolim.
Any Rabbi who is not Chareidi will NEVER be recognized
as a Gadol by UJM, even if his knowledge of Torah
is greater than that of Rabbi Moshe Feinstein ZTL ZYA.Any Rabbi who is not anti-Zionist will NEVER be recognized
as a Gadol by UJM, even if his knowledge of Torah
is greater than that of Rabbi Yisroel HaLevi Belsky ZTL ZYA.———————————————————-
Everything that I said about UJM is equally true
of HaKatan and Mr. “Some Jew I Know”.from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547, footnote 9:When Rabbi Porush conveyed these sentiments to
Rabbi [Elazar] Shach, the latter responded,
“We must pray for the health of [Prime Minister Menachem] Begin.PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that Rabbi Elazar Shach ZTL ZYA prayed
for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin, “constantly”,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a secular Zionist state!This discussion was started by YWN’s biggest TROLL,
for the specific purpose of TROLLING.If the moderators of this Coffee Room did their jobs correctly,
this discussion would never have been approved,
and even now, this discussion should be deleted by moderators.from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:“Such a committee of investigation would have served
as a ploy to unseat Prime Minister Menachem Begin,
for whom both the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah
of America and that of Eretz Yisrael had great respect.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that the Gedolim had
“great respect” for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a Secular Zionist state!__________________________________________
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547, footnote 9:When Rabbi Porush conveyed these sentiments to Rabbi Shach,
the latter responded, “We must pray for the health of
[Prime Minister Menachem] Begin.Please phone [Menachem] Begin immediately and
tell him that I [Rabbi Shach] pray for him constantly.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that Rabbi Shach ZTL ZYA prayed for
Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin, “constantly”,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a secular Zionist state!
__________________________________________Why are you directing a serious Halachic question to this Coffee Room?
Why not ask an Orthodox Rabbi?
19812262 said:
“Just keep davening, and the the evil State of Israel will cease to exist.”
NOTE: I had to correct Mr. 19812262’s spelling of simple words.
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MY RESPONSE:
“The evil State of Israel” is the ONLY country in the world
where the percentage of Jews who intermarry
with non-Jews is less than 50%.“The evil State of Israel” is the ONLY country in the world
where the number of Jews is actually increasing.That is the state you call “evil”
That is the state that you want to “cease to exist”.=========================================
Similarly, he [Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky] concluded, recognition of
Israel’s role in preventing millions of Jews
from losing any connection to the Jewish people
must mitigate our kana’us, even as
our love for our fellow Jews in Eretz Yisrael
must “not blind us to [their] shortcomings.”SOURCE: Reb Yaakov: The Life and Times of HaGaon
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky by Yonason Rosenblum,
based on the research of Rabbi Noson Kamenetsky (chapter 11, page 209),
Mesorah Publications, publication dates: February 1993 & January 2004,
ISBN: 0-89906-413-2 (hardcover)
ISBN: 0-89906-415-9 (paperback)=========================================
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky said this:
“In this land [Eretz Yisrael] … a carpenter is not merely a laborer,
but one fulfilling the mitzvah of building Eretz Yisrael.”SOURCE: Reb Yaakov: The Life and Times of HaGaon
Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky by Yonason Rosenblum,
based on the research of Rabbi Noson Kamenetsky (chapter 11, page 210),
Mesorah Publications, publication dates: February 1993 & January 2004,
ISBN: 0-89906-413-2 (hardcover)
ISBN: 0-89906-415-9 (paperback)=========================================
from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 13, page 321:“He [Rabbi Moshe Sherer] assured [Prime Minister] Rabin…
that he could always count on Agudath Israel of America
to be strongly supportive of Israel’s security needs.”=========================================
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 15, page 356:“Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer responded at length.
He pointed out that the opposition to religious umbrella groups
did not preclude Jews joining together on issues as
Israel’s security or combating anti-Semitism.”=========================================
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 545:“Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer’s summary of a confidential
June 17, 1970 [CE] meeting with Israel’s
Ambassador to Washington Yitzchak Rabin
reflects his lifelong approach to Israel’s security needs.”=========================================
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 546:The offer of political support Rabbi Sherer made
to Yitzchak Rabin was one he would repeat
on many occasions to Israeli leaders.In a 1981 [CE] letter to Israeli Ambassador Ephraim Efron,
for instance, he described Agudath Israel’s grassroots
constituency as a “reservoir of manpower which is
totally committed to the safety and security of Israel.”=========================================
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:“Such a committee of investigation would have served
as a ploy to unseat Prime Minister Menachem Begin,
for whom both the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah
of America and that of Eretz Yisrael had great respect.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that the Gedolim had
“great respect” for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a Secular Zionist state!=========================================
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547, footnote 9:When Rabbi Porush conveyed these sentiments to Rabbi Shach,
the latter responded, “We must pray for the health of
[Prime Minister Menachem] Begin. Please phone [Menachem]
Begin immediately and tell him that I pray for him constantly.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that Rabbi Shach ZTL ZYA prayed for
Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin, “constantly”,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a secular Zionist state!=========================================
PS: If you doubt that my quotes are accurate,
then I invite you to find a copies of the books that I mentioned,
and turn to the chapter numbers and page numbers that I mentioned.
You will then see with your own eyes that my quotes are 100% accurate.The books that I quoted can be purchased from:
www (dot) ArtScroll (dot) com
www (dot) ebay (dot) com
www (dot) amazon (dot) com=========================================
In a conversation with the Satmar Rav, shortly after
his talk on the U.N. declaration, Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz]
was subjected to the sharpest criticism for his “Zionist leanings.”Later he told his family,
“I could have answered him [the Satmar Rav]
Chazal for Chazal, Midrash for Midrash,
but I did not want to incur his wrath,
for he is a great man and a tzaddik.”He added with a twinkle, “And besides, he has a fiery temper”…
SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
the architect of Torah in America(chapter 26, page 335 to 336)
by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah, year 2001 CE,
based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965
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PERSONAL COMMENT:Maybe the real reason why Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz
feared to disagree with the Satmar Rebbe about Eretz Yisrael
was because the Satmar Rebbe screamed like
a maniac whenever he mentioned Zionism?
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PERSONAL COMMENT:Maybe the real reason why Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz
feared to disagree with the Satmar Rebbe about Eretz Yisrael
was to avoid getting attacked and beat-up by Satmar Chassidim?
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Both of these possibilities have already been mentioned
in this Coffee Room, and several times, and not by me.I am NOT Chananya Weissman
Chananya Weissman lives in Eretz Yisrael.
I live far away from Eretz Yisrael.
We are not the same person!
PS: The lunatic who started this stupid worthless discussion
did not even spell Chananya Weissman’s name correctly.The moderators should delete this entire stupid worthless
discussion, which was started by a lunatic who is hopelessly
addicted to laitzanus [mockery], which violates Torah law.Many people are not old enough to remember that
when Rabbi Moshe Feinstein ZTL ZYA was alive,
he was universally accepted as the ultimate authority in Torah,
by the Chareidim and also the Modern Orthodox / Religious Zionists.When he died, there was no longer any Torah leader who united
both the Chareidim and the Modern Orthodox / Religious Zionists.Besalel, I guarantee you that Chananya Weissman and commonsaychel
are *** NOT *** the same person, and I strongly suspect that
they never met each other in person.Chananya Weissman is a very sincere and very intelligent person,
whose heart is filled with belief in Torah and love for all Jews.
He has helped to make many shidduchim that resulted in marriages.
He does this LeShem Shamayim, not for money.commonsaychel is a person who cannot stop mocking people
with foolish comments and laitzanus, because he suffers from
incurable psychological problems, and has too much time on his hands.Please don’t get me started about commonsaychel’s mother-in-law.
Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan [ZTL ZYA] wrote a book titled:
“THE HANDBOOK OF JEWISH THOUGHT.”In this book, Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan explains that in
the time before the Melech HaMashiach comes,
Jews will have PARTIAL rule over the land of Israel.This seems to agree with the Malbim on Michah,
if I understand it correctly.When Joe Biden was President and Kamala Harris
was Vice President, American taxpayers were forced
to pay for the college tuition of 450,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS.Many of those unfortunate taxpayers were not able
to afford college for themselves or for their children,
yet they were forced to pay for college for ILLEGAL ALIENS
who are NOT citizens and are NOT in the USA legally.The Democrat Party has infinite mercy and generosity
for ILLEGAL ALIENS, even those who commit violent crimes,
and even for Hamas sympathizers,
who want Hamas to kill as many Jews as possible.But the Democrat Party has ZERO mercy for the unfortunate taxpayers.
PLEASE, never vote for ANY member of the Democrat Party!!
NEVER!! NEVER!! NEVER!!
Talmud, tractate Ketuvot, page 110B:
Our Rabbis taught:
One should always dwell in the land of Israel,
even in a city that is mostly non-Jewish,
and not dwell outside of the land of Israel,
even in a city that is mostly Jewish.Because anyone who dwells in the Land of Israel
is considered as one who has a G*D,
and anyone who dwells outside the land [of Israel]
is considered as one who has no G*D,
as it is written (Vayikra, chapter 25, verse 38):
“…TO GIVE YOU THE LAND OF CANAAN,
TO BE FOR YOU A G*D.”But does anyone who does not dwell in the land not have a God?
Rather, it is coming to tell you that anyone who dwells
outside the land is considered as if he is worshiping idolatry.And so by David it is written [in Tanach ]
(Shmuel Aleph, chapter 26, verse 19):
“…FOR THEY HAVE DRIVEN ME OUT TODAY FROM
BEING GATHERED IN THE INHERITANCE OF HASHEM,
SAYING: ‘GO WORSHIP OTHER GODS.’”Now who told David to go serve other gods?
Rather, this is telling you that anyone who dwells outside
the Land of Israel is considered as if he is worshiping idolatry.
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PERSONAL COMMENT:The Talmud, shown above, teaches us that living outside
the Land of Israel is considered to be similar to worshiping idols.If the State of Israel is “peacefully” dismantled,
then millions of Jews will leave the Land of Israel,
which is considered to be similar to worshiping idolatry,
according to the Talmud in tractate Ketuvot, page 110B.Therefore, dismantling the State of Israel, even “peacefully”,
will cause millions of Jews to *** SIN ***, by causing them
to leave the Land of Israel, without a Halachically-valid heter.Even if leaving the Land of Israel were Halachically permitted,
[and it is not] no nation will accept even one-tenth [10%]
of 8 million [8,000,000] Jewish refugees.
There is no place for them to go to.
Which is why the State of Israel was created.IN CONCLUSION, I therefore suggest that
the anti-Zionists completely abandon their plans
to “peacefully” dismantle the State of Israel.__________________________________________
PS: “PERFIDY” was written by the Zionist Ben Hecht,
as a hit piece on Israel’s Labor Party,
immediately before an election, headed by Ben Gurion,
and which Kastner was a member of.Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of Hamas.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of Hezbollah.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Houthis.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Taliban.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Iranian Ayatollahs.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of genocidal Jew-haters.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorists who shot 36,000 rockets at Jews.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorists who kidnap and murder Jewish children.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorists who murdered 1,200+ Jews on 2023 October 7.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of Hamas.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of Hezbollah.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Houthis.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Taliban.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of the Iranian Ayatollahs.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of genocidal Jew-haters.
Every member of the Neturei Karta is an ALLY of terrorist who kidnap and murder Jewish children.
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According to Halachah, it is prohibited for a Jew to leave Eretz Yisrael,
and there are only a few valid heterim, such as parnassah or marriage.If the State of Israel were “peacefully” dismantled, that would
cause millions of Jews to leave Eretz Yisrael, which is a sin.David HaMelech compared leaving Eretz Yisrael to worshiping idols.
Therefore, “peacefully” dismantling the State of Israel
would cause 8 million Jews to SIN by leaving Eretz Yisrael,
which is a SIN that is comparable to worshiping idols.If I remember correctly, Rashi’s commentary on Sefer Yechezkel
teaches that Jews living outside of Eretz Yisrael is a Chillul HaShem.Therefore, “peacefully” dismantling the State of Israel
The anti-Zionist Chareidi Rabbis also opposed Jews moving to America.
If all Jews would have listened to them, then all Jews would be living
in Eastern European nations like: Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia,
Poland, Hungary, Romania and Serbia.President Joe Biden chose Kamala Harris to be his Vice President,
not because she was qualified, but because she was a “woman of color”.When Kamala Harris was a prosecutor in the state of California:
[1] She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations,
and then laughed when someone asked if she smoked marijuana.[2] She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man
from Death Row, until the courts forced her to do so.[3] She kept people in prison beyond their sentences,
to provide cheap labor to the state of California.THAT is who Joe Biden chose to be his Vice President!
During the years that Joe Biden was President
and Kamala Harris was Vice President,
the government WASTED THE MONEY
of the unfortunate taxpayers on:$10 million for male circumcision in Mozambique (an African nation).
$14 million for “social cohesion” in Mali (also an African nation).
$227,000 for Big Cat’s youtube channel.