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user176 said:
“HaKatan & UJM:
Would you just zip it already?
Kol haposel b’mumo posel.
Anyone who accuses others of idolatry is likely themselves an idolater.Your words are blasphemous, hateful, and have no place here.
Either act like a Jew or take a hike.
So disgusting, disgracing Talmidei Chachamim and writing-off half of Am Yisrael.”
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PERSONAL COMMENT:Thank you, user176, for your truthful words.
But HaKatan & UJM are writing-off much more than “half” of Am Yisrael.
Sorry about that.
For SomeJewIKnow:
Because you falsely slandered millions of Israeli Jews,
by calling it a “Nazi state” (Motzi Shem Ra),
you will be punished for ALL of the sins of Israeli Jews,
in addition to being punished for your own sins 🙂 🙂In addition, your descendants will be cursed without mercy,
for at least 1,000 generations,
in addition to being declared mamzeirim 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂Laugh now, while you still can,
because when your punishment comes, you will not be laughing.Your Gehinom punishment will NEVER end; not after 10 years,
not after 100 years, and not after 10,000 years 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂GadolHadofi, was that comment sarcasm?
simcha613 said:
“Yes, many secular Zionists wanted
Jewish nationalism to replace Torah.
That ideology is anti-Torah.But Religious Zionism explicitly rejects that.
Religious Zionists believe Eretz Yisrael,
Jewish sovereignty, mitzvos hateluyos ba’aretz,
the army, and national life must be
connected to Torah and halacha — NOT replace them.So why should the kefirah of secular Zionists
be projected onto Religious Zionists who reject that kefirah?”
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MY RESPONSE:Thank you very much for your correct logic.
I had similar thoughts for a long time,
but I did not know how to express them in words.May G*D reward you for speaking the truth.
Tragically, UJM & HaKatan DO NOT CARE
about your logic, no matter how true it is,
and no matter how correct it is.They care ONLY about what their favorite Rabbis said,
and they intentionally ignore everything else,
which they mistakenly believe to be a great act of righteousness.One day, the misguided piety (and stubbornness)
of UJM & HaKatan & those like them will cause
a Jewish Civil War, or another Holocaust, or both.Millions of Jewish lives will be lost.
Countless Jews will be taken hostage and tortured and raped.
Countless Jews will be captured and forced to convert to Islam.
Countless Jews will be stateless & homeless refugees.
Billions of dollars worth of Jewish property will be lost.
Countless synagogues & yeshivahs will be destroyed.That is the endgame of the policies endorsed by UJM & HaKatan.
from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:In a fascinating letter to Rabbi Menachem Porush,
written half a year after Israel’s dramatic victory
in the Six-Day War [in year 1967 CE], Rabbi Sherer
agreed “that what transpired were great miracles.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
disagreed with those who said that Israel’s dramatic victory
in the Six-Day War resulted from the sitra achra (satanic forces)
[for example: the Satmar Rebbe].Rabbi Menachem Porush was a member of Knesset for Agudath Israel
between 1959 and 1975 CE, and again from 1977 until 1994 CE.
The Jewish Press published Rabbi Porush’s articles hundreds of times.from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:“Such a committee of investigation would have served
as a ploy to unseat Prime Minister Menachem Begin,
for whom both the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah
of America and that of Eretz Yisrael had great respect.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This short quote proves that the Gedolim had
“great respect” for Israel’s Prime Minister: Mr. Menachem Begin,
even though Menachem Begin was the leader of a Secular Zionist state!NOTE: Mr. Menachem Begin was Prime Minister of Israel from June 1977 to October 1983.
for HaLeiVi:
Independence Day, celebrated on July 4th, commemorates
the adoption of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 CE,
which declared the United States free from British rule.This day is marked by celebrations like fireworks,
parades, and family gatherings across the country._______________________________________________________________
According to HaLeiVi’s logic, this day should NOT be a holiday,
because the Declaration of Independence in 1776 CE
caused a war between England and the American states,
in which many people died.On 1983 November 7, Susan Rosenberg and Sue Evans,
both Leftist activists, ignited a BOMB in Washington DC
that tore through the second floor of the Senate building,
as part of an attempt to assassinate Republican Senators.On his last day in office (2001 January 20), President Bill Clinton
(of the Democratic Party) commuted their sentences to time served.
This was almost like a pardon.QUESTION:
Rabbi Moshe Sherer (born 1921 CE, died 1998 CE)
was the President of Agudath Israel.
What did Rabbi Moshe Sherer ZTL ZYA say about the modern State of Israel?__________________________________________
ANSWER:Rabbi Moshe Sherer ZTL ZYA said these
statements about the modern State of Israel:
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from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 13, page 321:“He [Rabbi Moshe Sherer] assured [Prime Minister Yitzhak] Rabin…
that he could always count on Agudath Israel of America
to be strongly supportive of Israel’s security needs.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 1st quote of 4, which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!NOTE: This conversation occurred in, or close to, year 1975 CE.
Yitzhak Rabin was Prime Minister from June 1974 to June 1977 CE.
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from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 15, page 356:“Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer responded at length.
He pointed out that the opposition to religious umbrella groups
did not preclude Jews joining together on issues as
Israel’s security or combating anti-Semitism.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 2nd quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
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from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 545:“Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer’s summary of a confidential
June 17, 1970 [CE] meeting with Israel’s
Ambassador to Washington Yitzchak Rabin
reflects his lifelong approach to Israel’s security needs.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 3rd quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!
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from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 546:The offer of political support Rabbi Sherer made
to Yitzchak Rabin was one he would repeat
on many occasions to Israeli leaders.In a 1981 [CE] letter to Israeli Ambassador Ephraim Efron,
for instance, he described Agudath Israel’s grassroots
constituency as a “reservoir of manpower which is
totally committed to the safety and security of Israel.”PERSONAL COMMENT:
This is the 4th quote which proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
was deeply committed to Israel’s security, even though Israel
was a Secular Zionist state with Secular Zionist leaders!qwerty613:
In this Coffee Room, the loudest and most persistent
and most confident voices often belong to people
who are brainwashed fanatics.That is very unfortunate, because good people who use facts and logic
get out-shouted or shouted down by the brainwashed fanatical lunatics.If only this Coffee Room had real moderators, then that might be avoided.
But, as you already know very well, the moderators do almost nothing,
and the voices of insanity and hate win, not because they speak truth,
but because they are: stubborn, confident, loud and relentless.Some very intelligent people have publicly taught that
bad men are much more likely to gain positions of power than good men,
for reasons similar to the reasons that I already mentioned.The Neturei Karta and UJM and HaKatan are like insane “Doctors”
who “cure” their patients by prescribing deadly poisons.The problem is not that their patients are not sick;
the problem is that their “cure” is even worse than the disease.May THE G*D OF ISRAEL have mercy on us, and rescue us from all evil.
HaKatan:
No offense intended, sir, but with all due respect, you are disconnected from reality.
You are NOT LISTENING to the comments made in this Coffee Room.
A wise man once said, because it is true, that:
“You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”
When will the Coffee Room moderators issue a clear statement of their rules and policies?
Index Funds perform better than most actively-managed funds.
You must buy-and-hold for the long term,
and resist the temptation to manage your Index Funds.Just buy them, and then forget about them, until you retire.
Always_Ask_Questions said this in
the YWN Coffee Room on 2025 March 25,
in a discussion titled “Three Oaths essay
from Rabbi Avraham Rivlin of Kerem B’Yavneh”:Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky writes in his
Emes Le-Ya’akov Al Ha-Torah (Exodus 12:2 n. 17):“It is incumbent on us to understand that the establishment
of the state of Israel in our day, after the great destruction
and despair that overtook the remnant,
and given the desperate and destroyed status of Russian Jewry,
God caused the establishment of the state of Israel
in order to strengthen the connection to Judaism
and to sustain the link between the Jews in exile and the Jewish nation.”__________________________________________
Always_Ask_Questions said this in
the YWN Coffee Room on 2025 March 25,
in a discussion titled “Three Oaths essay
from Rabbi Avraham Rivlin of Kerem B’Yavneh”:Rabbi Eliyahu Dessler has two relevant letters,
from 1948 [CE] and 1949 [CE], that were published
in Mikhtav Me-Eliyahu, volume 3 pages 349 to 353.He writes that he is hesitant to call the establishment of
the state of Israel and the ensuing military victory
the beginning of the Redemption,
but he considers it a possibility (i.e. a Hopeful Zionist position).He also has harsh words for anyone who refuses to see
God’s miraculous intervention in this,
considering them heretics who reject Divine Providence.“In [year]1948 [CE], after the Arabs attacked
the newly declared Jewish state and soldiers
were falling on the battlefield, several Roshei Yeshivah
taunted Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] for
having recited the blessing [HaTov VeHaMeitiv].Reb Shraga Feivel turned to Rabbi Aharon Kotler,
who agreed with him that the U. N. [United Nations] resolution
[to establish a Jewish State in Eretz Yisrael in year 1948 CE]
was indeed worthy of the blessing.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz,
the architect of Torah in America (chapter 26, page 331, footnote 3,
heard from Rabbi Nesanel Quinn) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Aharon Kotler,
just because he founded Beth Medrash Govoha in Lakewood.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Aharon Kotler,
just because he worked day and night to save Jews from The Holocaust.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Aharon Kotler,
just because he wrote Shu”t Mishnas R’ Aharon (responsa).PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Aharon Kotler,
just because he wrote the Mishnas Rabbi Aharon commentary on the Talmud.PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN to Rabbi Aharon Kotler,
just because produced many highly distinguished talmidim,
including: Rabbi Shlomo Brevda, Rabbi Moshe Heinemann,
Rabbi Moshe Hillel Hirsch, Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky,
Rabbi Shlomo Miller, Rabbi Yechiel Perr,
Rabbi Gedalia Schorr, Rabbi Elya Svei and many others.qwerty613:
Rabbi Avigdor Miller ZTL ZYA may have been a bigot, sometimes,
but his dedication to studying Torah and teaching Torah was almost super-human.He taught approximately 40 different shiurim every week,
and that was when he was in his 80s!Chareidim cause anti-Semitism by SPITTING on Christian tourists, when they visit Israel.
These incidents have become known to many millions of Christians.
These incidents cause anti-Semitism.
These incidents are a CHILLUL HASHEM
These incidents cause Israel to lose tourism income.
These incidents are ALWAYS done by Chareidim and ONLY by Chareidim.
These incidents are done by Chareidim who will NEVER STOP,
no matter how many times they are asked,
no matter how many times they are corrected,
no matter how many times they are rebuked.HaKatan said:
“The Chazon Ish stated that the day should really be a Tish’ah BiAv.”
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MY RESPONSE:I have no evidence that he really said that.
If he did say that, then in what year did say that?
The Chazon Ish died in 1953 CE,
when the State of Israel was 5 YEARS OLD.1953 CE was 73 years ago. Since then, many things have changed.
Changes that HaKatan & UJM refuse to acknowledge, because they prefer to hate.
Chabad “Mitzvah Tanks” publicly state that their false messiah
“prophesied” [exact quote] that certain things would happen.This means that their false messiah is also a false prophet [navi sheker].
Chabad is also the only Chassidus that produced an ELOKIST
movement, which publicly stated that their false messiah
is [or was] G*D in human form [G*D forbid].May G*D forgive us for not hating Chabad enough!
What about Chareidi Rabbis who endorse candidates
who support abortion-on-demand and “gay rights”,
because those candidates give money to Yeshivahs?The State of Israel is run by Secular Jews who are
TINOK SHENISHBA, and are not really responsible for their sins.We cannot make that same excuse for Chareidi Rabbis
who endorse politicians who support abortion and
“gay rights”, because those candidates give money to Yeshivahs.I spent 20 years doing my best to fight against Xtian missionaries
who target Jews for conversion to their religion.How many years did UJM or HaKatan do the same?
I spent 20s doing my best to fight against Xtian missionaries
who target Jews for conversion to their religion.How many years did UJM or HaKatan do the same?
Once full-scale war broke out after the State of Israel
declared its existence on May 14, 1948 [CE]
Reb Shraga Feivel’s [Mendlowitz] thoughts
were never far from Eretz Yisrael.A group of students saw him outside the Mesivta building
one day, talking excitedly with Rabbi Gedaliah Schorr
and gesticulating rapidly with the newspaper held in his hand.“If I were your age,” he [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] told the students,
“I would take a gun and go to Eretz Yisrael.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 338) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965In a conversation with the Satmar Rav, shortly after
his talk on the U.N. [United Nations] declaration,
Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] was subjected to
the sharpest criticism for his “Zionist leanings.”Later he told his family,
“I could have answered him [the Satmar Rav] Chazal for Chazal,
Midrash for Midrash, but I did not want to incur his wrath,
for he is a great man and a tzaddik.”He added with a twinkle, “And besides, he has a fiery temper”…
SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 335 to 336) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965_____________________________________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:This quote has appeared in this Coffee Room many times
over the past 4 years, yet the anti-Zionists have NEVER
responded to it, because it refutes their outdated, hate-filled, false beliefs.“… he [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] also explained
why the secular Zionists might have been chosen
to play such a fateful role in the history of the Jewish people.In every Jew, he explained, there is a spark of kedushah (holiness) –
dos pintele Yid – which is his inheritance
from the Avos [Holy Patriarchs].Every Jew is both an individual and as part of the collective body of Israel.
As long as he does not sever his bonds to the nation,
that little spark is not extinguished, no matter how numerous his sins.Divine Providence might have arranged that the secular Zionists
play a major role in the redemption of Eretz Yisrael
precisely in order to maintain their connection to Klal Yisrael.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 335) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965“He [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] once said that
even though Eretz Yisrael is controlled by
non-religious and anti-religious Jews,
one must still admit the good that HaKadosh Baruch Hu
had done, in causing the gates to the Land
to be open once again to Jewish immigration.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 331, footnote 4, heard from Rabbi Yehoshua Schiff)
by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah, year 2001 CE,
based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965HaKatan said:
the “State” has caused tremendous damage to Jews and Judaism.
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MY RESPONSE:ISLAM has caused tremendous damage to Jews and Judaism!
Under Islamic rule, Jews were not permitted to build new synagogues,
nor were they permitted to repair old ones [except through big bribes].Impoverished Jews who lived under Islamic rule were
crushed by special taxes, called JIZYA, which were
designed to penalize non-Muslims for not converting to Islam.Under Islamic rule, Jews could be sued by Muslims,
but could never sue Muslims.Under Islamic rule, Jews could never own weapons that
they could use to defend themselves,
nor could they own horses, so they could not escape.If a Jew died, and one of his sons converted to Islam,
the son who converted to Islam would inherit 100%
of his father’s money, and all the other children were disinherited.If Jewish parents died, and nobody adopted their children,
then their children would be automatically converted to Islam.These evils happened many centuries before the first
secular Zionists appeared, so do not blame it on them.“He [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] once said that
even though Eretz Yisrael is controlled by non-religious
and anti-religious Jews, one must still admit the good
that HaKadosh Baruch Hu had done, in causing the gates
to the Land to be open once again to Jewish immigration.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 331, footnote 4, heard from Rabbi Yehoshua Schiff)
by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah, year 2001 CE,
based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965“On Friday, November 29, 1947, the United Nations
debated the issue of partitioning the British Mandate
for Palestine into two countries, one Arab and on Jewish.Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] prayed fervently for partition.
He had no radio in his house, but that Friday he borrowed one
and set it to the news, leaving it on for Shabbos.He waited with such tense anticipation to hear the outcome
of the U. N. [United Nations] vote that he did not come to shalosh seudos.When he heard the U. N.’s decision to establish a Jewish state,
he stood up and recited the blessing HaTov VeHaMeitiv,
Who is good and Who does good.Without losing sight of the anti-religious nature of the leaders
of the yishuv in Eretz Yisrael, he nevertheless saw the creation
of a Jewish state an act of Providence and as a cause for rejoicing.At the very least, there would now be one country in the world
whose gates would be open to the thousands of Holocaust survivors
still languishing in Displaced Persons Camps in Germany and Austria.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 26, page 331) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965“And he [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] expressed
amazement that anyone who considered himself
a good Jew could possibly go seven days without
thinking of some way in which he could improve
the lot of settlers in Eretz Yisrael or otherwise improve the Land.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 25, page 322) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965__________________________________________
PERSONAL COMMENT:If you read the quote shown above carefully,
you will understand that Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz
(known as: “the premier architect of Torah in American history”)
wanted ALL JEWS to help the settlers in Eretz Yisrael,
even though most of those settlers were Secular ZIONISTS!!!“He [Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz] never tired
of telling his students that that Eretz Yisrael
is the natural place for every Jew.Only there can a Jew flourish to his maximum potential.
A Jew’s life outside of Eretz Yisrael inevitably
has a truncated, unnatural quality. He is like a polar bear
removed from his Arctic habitat and placed in the Bronx Zoo.”“Any Jew who does not at least dream of going up to
Eretz Yisrael, he said,
is surely lacking something in his Yiddishkeit.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 25, page 322) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965After hearing a well-known Rabbi give a fiery
derashah against the secular Jews in Eretz Yisrael,
Reb Shraga Feivel [Mendlowitz] expressed
his displeasure with the tone of the speech.“True, is it hard for us to reach the ahavas Yisrael
of Reb Yitzchak Levi of Berditchev,” he said,
“but we are commanded to keep far away
from hatred of our fellow Jews.”SOURCE: Reb Shraga Feivel: the life and times of
Rabbi Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz, the architect of Torah in America
(chapter 16, page 229) by Yonoson Rosenblum for Artscroll / Mesorah,
year 2001 CE, based on Aharon Sorasky’s Shelucha DeRachmana,
ISBNs: 157819797X, 9781578197972, 1578197961, 9781578197965Sometimes we must make sacrifices to get the refuah we need.
For patients in hospitals, it is very difficult to hold by
mitzvah observances, and sometimes it is impossible.Besalel said:
“Turns out the Satmar Rav ztl was entirely wrong
when he predicted Torah would not flourish in EY,
and that religious people will lose their religion under the Zionists.Instead, the Zionists are the largest contributors in terms
of money to the yeshivos and in the most recent years,
almost all of the Sefaradim have embraced
their faith and many Ashkenazim, too.Everything the Satmar Rav ztl thought will happen, did not happen.”
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MY RESPONSE:Besalel, I thank you for speaking the truth!!
May G*D help you always!
PS: Sefer VaYoel Moshe was written in the 1950s.
That was around 70 years ago.
Many things have changed since then.UJM said:
“The State of so-called Israel is embracing Torah values
as much as North Korea is doing so.”__________________________________________
MY RESPONSE:ANOTHER Motzi Shem Ra false-slander attack from UJM.
ANOTHER Motzi Shem Ra false-slander attack from
a man whose mind is blinded by fanatical hate.In addition to the countless Motzi Shem Ra
false-slander attacks he has already made.G*D will surely punish him, and also the moderators
who approved his evil hateful false comments.This entire discussion is a super-massive Motzi Shem Ra
against millions of Jews, and is also a HUGE Chillul HaShem,
and it also pushes all Jews closer to another Holocaust.But please, don’t let that stop you!
Just keep on going, just like you always do.