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Hmm. So, if a girl is dressed to kill or is dressed to be a head turner, every guy who turns his head to look at her is over this aveira… and she gets a seperate aveira for every guy she caused to sin by turning his head to look at her.
That would include dressing for weddings, yomim tovim, shabbosim and any other occassions, wouldn’t it.
It is not a hiddur. It is strict halacha. A girls upper knee *must always* be covered. Always includes when entering or exiting a motor vehicle, a very common occurance. Someone whose skirt fails to *always* keep above her knee covered when getting in and out of a car (a public area/on the street), is clearly breaching halacha and commiting an aveira.
Are you feeling okay, yichusdik? What did I say that offended you or prompted that outburst? And how is it related to anything I said?
computer: The seforim cited earlier in this thread are Torah.
Umm, yeah, I know the “trick”. Except, as any girl knows, it fails more times than it works. Either due to omission or commission. Often due to forgetting to employ the “trick”. Other times due to the “trick” suffering a technical failure.
Which means only a skirt that is long enough to not leave exposed the upper knees when entering or exiting a vehicle, without any “tricks”, is tznius.
Brisk is the cream-of-the-crop Yeshiva.
I know of several cases where single, never-married, girls married divorced guys. I dont know of any cases the other way. I def agree that a large portion of divorces are the girls fault.
The Torah says Kibud Av V’Eim and Shluach Hakan will bring arichas yomim. Is that absolute? Can you show me someone who had kibud av v’eim or did shluach hakan that unfortunately did not have arichas yomim? If you can, does that disprove that shluach hakan brings arichas yomim (which logically makes no sense)?
Seforim mention various actions bring certain results. That’s the rule. Finding an exception to the rule does not disprove the rule. So what if it isn’t absolute? It’s still worth following.
Will someone stop eating healthy because it isn’t absolute that eating healthy will insure a person stays healthy?
I said almost to the ankles. There’s almost simply no way a skirt that is any less than 4 inches below the knee will not expose above the knee when getting out of (or into) a car. If it is less than 4″ below, it will rise when getting in/out a car, exposing above the knee.
Oh, please. Everyone knows popa and 80 are two very different people.
Same as the halacha is if you didn’t grow up with kosher.
Honestly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a skirt that if it literally doesn’t almost reach the ankles, that was long enough to cover the knees and above when a girl is getting out of (or into) a car. Anything shorter than reaching to the borders of the ankles will expose above the knees when getting out or into a car.
The Torah is absolute.
I most appreciate the Chasidishe, especially Satmar, approach to this issue. They teach Torah shebksav inside, but not Torah shebal peh (like Rashi isn’t taught inside in Beis Rochel schools.) They strictly adhere to shulchan aruch, per the Rebbe’s psak halacha.
My gebrochts in-laws cook in special non-gebrochts keilim for us, per psak halacha.
The Rosh Yeshiva, Rav Harrari-Raful shlita, is on the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah of the Agudas Yisroel.
Yeah, you’re probably right. The donut lobby (aka cops) would go wild (no pun intended.)
If your wife signs a contract and the husband doesn’t like it when he hears about it, he can back out??
No joke. It’ll make the keili gebrochts and unusable for non-gebrochts fellows.
sam, purim occured outside EY, and after bayis rishon.
1) will treif up a non-gebrochts keili.
Yeah, but cigerette taxes are much much more onerous than the sales tax on potato chips and soda.
Thanks apushatayid for the clarification. I use food stamps, which as you indicated the taxes are waived, hence my error.
There is NO tax on food, including not on potato chips or soda. (Just a refundable 5 cent deposit on soda.)
On Friday you should be wishing ah gut Erev Shabbos.
pascha bchochma and BTGuy said there is a tznius (shmiras einayim) problem, and Sam2 said their is a Kol Isha problem.
Well, we are discussing Jews watching it. So, yes, her manner of tznius from a Jewish perspective (shmiras einayim requirements) is what matters here. And kol isha.
Wow. Why did Columbia U. put Hashem’s name in their seal?
What do you mean “otherwise”, shmiras einayim/tznius isn’t bad enough? And how about the kol isha?
What about putting the mirror in the talis bag rather than in the tefilin bag (which itself is in the talis bag)?
The general rule is 10 over and you’re okay.
Itche: Where does it come from and what insight does it provide?
Choose it, by all means!
How can a S”A not be literal??
If you like Judaism, choose Boro Park.
If you like to live among gentiles, don’t choose Boro Park.
If you like to pass a Makom Torah every 10 feet, choose Boro Park.
If you like to pass a makom tumah every 10 feet, don’t choose Boro Park.
Logician – your feeling is because you are who you are.
Health, Are you assuming the minhag hamokem is based what the goyim (Arabs or Christians) that we live amongst do? Because that would be a mistake. It is based upon ones Jewish Kehilla. So if the Kehilla’s minhag hamokem was to have more than one wife, when they move from Morocco or Iran to Israel or the U.S., their minhag hamokem stays the same it always was, even if their new countries goyim do differently.
Also, what makes you opine that if she burns his food isn’t the halacha we pasken on (not considering the cherem, if we assume not everyone was mekabel the cherem)?
The Chasidish Beis Yaakov’s don’t teach much Torah bal peh, for that reason. And even the Litvish don’t teach the gemora stories inside from a gemora. And whatever they do teach, lav daka, who said any godol approved of it. It may very well be wrong. The entire idea of even establishing Beis Yaakov’s to formally educate girls in a school setting was approved by the Chofetz Chaim due to a shas hadchak of girls abondoning yiddishkeit. Mikur hadin they didn’t have Beis Yaakov’s for all the centuries until about 100 years ago.
The Cherem weren’t all only accepted by Ashkenazim. Some of them were accepted by all of Klal Yisroel. Like the ban on reading other people’s letters. And (I think) the ban on unilateral divorce. The ban on polygany was only accepted by European Jewry. And Morrocan, Persian, Yemenite, and many Sefardim had more than one wife even as late as when they moved to Israel. The only reason you still don’t hear about it too much today is because they don’t want to go to jail from the goyish (or in the case of Israel, the Zionist) authorities. They have no problem religiously having more than one wife. And Rav Ovadia Yosef shlita said they really should be marring polyganously today. Even the Vilna Gaon wanted to reinstate polygany among Ashkenazim.
I have other questions about the Cherem D’Rabbeinu Gershom:
1) What made the cherem binding on Ashkenazic Jewry?
2) And whatever made it binding a) how did it bind the ENTIRE Ashkenazic world? b) Why did it ONLY bind the Ashkenazim?
3) How could a cherem be made today that would be binding on an entire portion of Klal Yisroel? And if that is not possible today, how/why was it possible by Rabbeinu Gershom?
4) Did Rabbeinu Gershom place an expiration date on his cherem and when was it? If the date passed, why is it still binding on Ashkenazim (or is it)?
The S”A writes tiflus only applies to teaching her Torah she’bal peh. Nevertheless, writes S”A (in the citation above), one shouldn’t teach her Torah she’bksav either. The Rema adds that the portions of the Torah she’bksav that are relevant to women, they should be taught the simple meaning of, so that they know what to do when situations arise in life that affect them.
S”A YD 246:6 says its tiflus. Rashi defines tiflus as lechery. Also see Sota 21b.
S”A writes if a woman learns Torah, it will lead her to tiflus (immorality).
If this joke had been real, women would be prohibited from learning Torah she baal peh.
The OP is a Purim joke.
Of course one would be obligated to tell a potentially (kosher) shidduch partner if the other party is a mamzer. It is an assur marriage and you cannot let it go thru (lifnei iver, like you pointed out.)
Electing to not have surgery is not a form of, and has nothing to do with, alternative medicine.
What are the risks if you decline surgery?