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Lol the democrats have never, and will never be interested in “unity”. What is unity anyways? Now days, anyone who dares voice his opinion that is different than that of the liberal woke mob, is a “hateful bigot”. What a joke, jackk, I think syag is right. Your trolling.January 22, 2021 1:39 am at 1:39 am in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1941372
Firstly charlie, while you are correct that trump supported alt-right extremist nehlen, that support had a lot more to do with his spat with Paul Ryan than support for nehlen. What I’m arguing is that the narrative that trump has supported neo-nazis, and white supremacists throughout his presidency.
Charlie, you are GUILTY of utilizing trump’s comments on charlotsville, as fake “proof” trump is a white supremacist.
Secondly, the way you view “cancel culture”, I too, totally support.
But it’s way way beyond that. Take for example, that school in San Francisco, named after Abraham Lincoln. They wanted to rename the school because Lincoln didn’t show strongly enough that black lives mattered to him. People are losing their job for voicing their conservative opinion, for daring to criticize democrat officials. It’s way beyond what you described charlie.
And your comments regarding trump’s policy is ridiculous. 400,000 deaths. Yes, it’s called a virus. Nearly every country struggled with this. Trump destroyed isis, negotiated peace in the middle east, built the wall, built a great pre-covid economy…………..
As per Dem Ron wyden, “we need unity, and all it will take is adding dc and puerto rico as states,….”January 21, 2021 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1941205
So let’s see…either frum Jews voted for ttrump because we hate ourselves, and love white supremacists and neo-nazis…OR it’s the party that’s represented, and policy to be implemented with effect on everyday life, which causes *frum-jewish* support for Trump…
Listen charlie, you can repeat the lie that trump supports neo-nazis, but that lie won’t become any truer and you certainly won’t convince me…
Trump is the first one that was willing to stand up against the woke radical left, and fight “cancel culture” which is threatening to take down this country. Tzaddekal or not, morality, while certainly important, isn’t the first most important thing when electing a goyishe politician.January 20, 2021 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm in reply to: Explain why you were sure Trump would get a second term even after the election. #1940922
Huju-Because I had too much faith in American Democracy(you asked a question, thats my answer…)
YT-Because -Frum- jews in general vote republican, and especially now days with the radical left and their Woke, Socialist agenda holding a strong position within the democrat party, electing Biden gives them a scary mighty voice in the government.
Charlie, can you explain why most Frum jews voted for Trump, while most jews overall, for Biden? Can anyone? While I’m sure that you on YWNCR are fine, upstanding Yidden, there is undoubtedly a correlation between being a none-frum jew, and being a Liberal Democrat. I haven’t brought this up until now, but since you claim “Most Jews voted for Biden”, it seemed necessary.
There is no question or debate as to whether the left controls the mainstream media. Cnn, Nbc, even Fox to some extent…now for example, the narrative that “trump is a white supremacist”-i’ve seen some on YWNCR parrot the mainstream media in quoting trumps comment on charlottesville where he said “you also had people that were very fine, on both sides”-using this as “proof” trump is a white supremacist-despite the fact trump followed up moments later saying ”
And you had people — and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally….”-this is what we call *fake-news*-yet the LEFT took it and ran…
This is just one example, but the left wing media, aka mainstream media, the media that most americans get their news from, do this on a daily basis at every opportunity on every subject. So yeah, when someone says something painfully ignorant, I will pin the blame on the mainstream media…January 17, 2021 11:03 pm at 11:03 pm in reply to: Last Chance for Trump: accept responsibility for Jan/6 violence; alologize for f #1939705
Sooo, (here we go again…) What would have biden done differently? Close the borders earlier? Nope. Impose some sort of stronger lockdown? Lockdowns have shown quite ineffective. Developed vaccines faster? Nope. This is just so stupidly simple. The Dems knew this pandemic was gonna kill hundreds of thousands. They also knew trump couldn’t do anything about it. Great opportunity to blame trump, and they didn’t miss…
Smerel, I think your being too harsh, you see, jewish liberals have a big problem. They support a different view as to running the US economy, foreign policy…., and I respect their differing angle-But they get stuck having to support democrats when it comes to social issues as well, which they most presumably don’t really want to. A hard life.😐January 17, 2021 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm in reply to: Last Chance for Trump: accept responsibility for Jan/6 violence; alologize for f #1939662
Definition of insurrection-“a violent uprising against an authority or government”. Yeah, seems just about right.
Charlie, what good is prosecuting the arsonists and looters when they’ll be bailed out of jail with funds raised by organizations promoted by Kamala Harris?
Don’t know what your comment regarding the Nypd “standing by and doing nothing to stop it” have to do here, you write that as a distraction.(besides you have no idea what the circumstances surrounding the particular incident were)
The problem is that we have Democrat officials cheering on violence and destruction when it comes to the BLM riots. This is a problem in itself. But on top of that we have the blatant hypocrisy when it comes to a “trump incited” riot-which he actually condemned repeatedly. Here, it’s impeach, impeach, impeach….
No jackk, I’m not basing our standards off the Dems. I’m saying
-Trump said some comments that at worst are QUESTIONABLE, and could be interpreted different ways, and he actually called for the violence to stop multiple times throughout the day. I would have liked him to have more strongly call out the violence, and beforehand, and so he may have acted a bit Irresponsible-but he in no way encouraged the violence.
-im asking a simple question, and would like an answer-why is it ok for Democrats to openly encourage violence, why isn’t the media, and democrat voters all over them for that? Ens tried answering that they were justified as they were in response to a police officer killing george floyd. Now ens, do you that floyd had fatal levels of fentanyl in his system when he died? Does that inconvenient fact matter at all? Do you really think that these BLM rioters care about black lives? Why then would they be burning down black-owned businesses, why don’t they care about the amount of blacks killed by other blacks? The narrative that they are “rioting for their lives” is GARBAGE! These people are bored, hate authority, hate America, and simply love owning the “victim status”. Facts matter. Democrat politicians massively contributed to the anarchy that ravaged our cities for months. And you all give them a free pass. But I guess it’s ok, because as GH said, it’s in their DNA.🙄
Charlie, jack, Reb e, why do you all seem horrified when Trump makes some QUESTIONABLE comments, that MAY have to do with the insurrection, but not when democrat officials OPENLY ENCOURAGE violence? Been trying to understand this for some time now….
Hmmm, another thread filled with some insane statements…
Why do I feel like whenever I reply to one of your (leftists) posts, I’m ignored and you just repeat the same stupidity?
Jackk, at WORST, trump said a few statements that can be interpreted different ways, the violent nutjobs were going to act like violent nutjobs regardless, and at NO POINT did their violence have the support of Trump or ANY conservative. Oh and why no mention of john sullivan, and his suspicious-to-say-the-least activity within the capitol? By the BLM riots, democrats didn’t ignore it. They OPENLY ENCOURAGED it!
Election fraud is not a “conspiracy” and is not believed by just “trump’s most ardent supporters”-its supported by plenty of statistical analysis across all the states in question. Just because the actual actions of fraud, and the evidence, was successfully covered up, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. No one will likely ever know if it happened. But it doesn’t take a “lunatic with horns” to honestly believe there was plenty of monkey business going on…
Reb e, what do anti semites have to do with this? Yes there some open anti semites at the forefront, but that is irrelevant to the conversation. The point Ben levi makes is a good one, but I would add that it’s more than violence vs people in power that makes this a much bigger issue. It’s the fact that it was driven by “pro-trumpers”. The double standard is so obvious and so disgusting.
Charlie, you mean except for John sullivan?
Participant, when I say “not much better than the capitol”, I don’t mean in terms of violence and damage, the BLM were far far worse, I was responding to what you said in post #1937668, “had they done what the trumpies done – storm government buildings and put their feet on Pelosi’s desk, I wouldn’t blame them.”
Again, being that the the narrative that they are “rioting for their lives” is complete nonsense, rather they are rioting because they are bored, hate America and love being portrayed as the “victims of systemic racism”, your entire basis for their riots being “more tolerable” , falls apart.
And they feel, just like I feel, that there was never a transparent, honest investigation into the many glaring question marks, rendering this election no better than venezuela’s. You’re entitled to your opinion, but you can’t, and won’t control ours.
Reb eliezer, you mean to say any one who holds a different view than you, must have been brainwashed? Sorry, not how it works.
Amil, tell me why in the world any one would use the mainstream media to connect to the nation, when the mainstream media will only twist his words to make him look terrible?
The double standard in which the BLM and capitol riots are being handled is frankly, everything wrong with the state of our media, our elected officials, and our country.
And just to add another point, you say they are “rioting for their lives”, while trumpies are just being sore losers. This is entirely incorrect, because while YOU may believe the election was clean-you have that right-the tens of thousands (in addition to millions around the country) that traveled from all over were protesting what THEY believe was a stolen election. Whether or not the election was stolen is not the debate here. The point is that those protesting in DC believed it was, and I’d go so far to say with 110% confidence, that those protesting at the capital, believed in what they were protesting a LOT MORE than those “rioting for their lives”…
the literal translation of”riot” is is exactly that-“excessive thuggery”.
And being that they are not actually “rioting for their lives”, your entire premise falls apart.
Oh and btw the blm riots took place at other federal properties around the country, not much better than the capital…
ENS-You mister, are FAKE NEWS! I see Cnn has trained you well…youre arguments are so wrong on many different levels
First point-lets learn about the 5 people who died.
1-Officer Brian Sicknick. He sustained injury while protecting the Capitol. He is an American hero, and the thugs who killed him will hopefully be caught.
2-Ashli Babbit-An UNARMED woman shot while climbing thru a window in the capitol. Dont feel all that bad for her, as she had no business being in that position, and deserved anything she was going to get. But if instead she was a black woman, and shot while climbing through a window at some sort of federal building by the BLM protests, they would be painting murals of her face, and she’d be a national hero.
3-Kevin Greeson-Trump supporter attending the rally, died of heart attack, had a history of high blood pressure
4-Benjamin Philips-Trump supporter attending the rally, had a stroke.
5-Rosanna Boyland-Trump supporter attending the rally, also died via medical emergency.
Yet you paint the picture of Trump supporters brutally murdering 5 Police Officers. There were at least 2 officers that I am aware of, in addition to non-officers, who were murdered during the BLM riots.
Second point-Absolutely NO ONE condoned the violence, while in regard to the BLM riots, you actually had elected officials, including Kamala Harris, ACTIVELY supporting the violence! Why no impeachment for them?? Double standard much??
Third point-participant, you say the BLM riots were tolerable-what is that supposed to mean?? Would you say that if it was your business, which you spent your whole life building up that was looted and burned down? The idea that there were merely protesting racism is GARBAGE! Do you know that George Floyd had fatal levels of fentanyl in his system when he died? Do you think for one second that these blm thugs would actually be interested in that inconvenient fact? By burning down black-owned businesses, and attacking black cops, by them totally not being interested by the amount of blacks killed by other blacks, they have been pretty clear-THEY DONT GIVE A DARN ABOUT BLACK LIVES!
DY-What was the order of events in which this machlokes came about? Was the Kallah side originally planning on spending extra on the sushi alone? Did they have a conversation in which the kallah side agreed to spend extra only if the chosson side agreed to split?
Cs, john, I think we all agree on that point.
The point of the rally was to show the GOP establishment that they are united behind trump, we won’t be silenced by bigtech, and anyone in the GOP in wants any sort of political future better get up and demand transparency. Now what exactly could trump have wanted from pence? If it wasnt constitutional, what are you concerned about? Pence wouldn’t have been able to actually do anything. And if it was constitutional, then why is it an impeachable offense?
I’m not sure why the chosson side should be paying anything here. Food is part of the hall cost which the kallah side pays. Now was the kallah side depending on the chosson side chipping in to cover these extras? Was any conversation held previously?
After 2020, I dont think anyone can predict what will happen tomorrow lol…
But I dont see “participants” prediction as anything close to reality. It remains to be seen what role/if any, Donald Trump has here, the storm on the capitol lost him a lot of support among republicans. I do believe the next republican nominee, will be someone with who goes about pushing conservative policy the Trump did, someone who openly fights back against the radical left, but someone who acts more professional than Trump. I dont see any scenario in which the rinos retain control of the GOP. Republican voters have got a taste of what it means to have a politician actually fighting for you. The Republican base has grown considerably more diverse in the recent years, and not thanks to the rinos. Just take a look at who we’ve elected to congress this past election. I think Ron DeSantis would make a great candidate. As for Harris winning in a landslide, a ton remains to be seen in that regard. Remember, she and her socialist agenda was rejected in the democrat primaries. Once Americans get a little taste of what socialist, and “woke” policy, the score might be just a little different in 4 years…Also, Election reform is necessary as well, this years mail-in ballots were an unmitigated disaster. Without change, the republican nominee will be fighting an uphill battle from the start…
I probably would not vote for him I’m the primaries, I would like to see DeSantis2024, and I held this opinion before the storm on the capitol. As for the presidential election, there’s not much he can do that would lose my vote for him, he would have to become an outright racist, or liberal or something like that….so yeah, if he wins the primaries he’s got my vote…. anything, absolutely anything is better than corrupt politicians occupying positions of power…
charlie if you really criticize blm, why wont you criticize democrat leaders who encourage and approve of their violence?
I would think that as time goes on, and this mass distribution, and handling of this special type of vaccine becomes more routine, the vaccination process will accelerate quickly. Of course this will coincide with when biden takes office, after which he will credit for saving the world …
Slight difference between BLM riots and the one at the capitol.
Not a single Democrat condemned the BLM riots, (until they realized it was hurting their poll numbers), and MANY actually encouraged it.
Not a single Republican approved of the riot at the capitol, and MANY actually vocally condemned it.
A slight subtle difference, hard to catch, you really have to have a keen eye to notice this one.
(Btw I wouldn’t assume so fast it was a trump supporter who killed the officer, there were plenty of antifa/BLM at the scene…)
Jackk, don’t know what “easier” has to do anything. Lg, are toevos, but should have nothing to do with government, and lg people should therefor not be denied any rights, b, obviously shouldn’t be denied any rights, but t is a totally and completely different discussion. It’s a lunacy, and lunacy shouldn’t be forced upon other people. And I have quite a hard time believing this existed 500yrs ago. Yes, maybe 20yrs ago, and in many countries now days, there may be people “in the closet”, but that is only because the lunacy has been introduced to the world, and is now widespread. I assume you states your last two “beliefs” to compare them to “t”-that just like your latter 2 have no standing here in america, so shouldn’t your “personal opinion as a jew”, on “t”-have any standing.
And I would respond that there is no comparison. Because for someone who doesn’t have the torah, and doesn’t think about life too much, the latter 2 are not only acceptable, but actually quite understandable. Therefor they have a place here in golus. But believing one can change their gender is a completely different story.
And if the rights they are “denied” is that they aren’t regarded in society as the opposite gender, then so be it.
Gh, jackk-so exactly what rights are we supposed to be giving them that they don’t have? Allowing biological men into woman’s bathrooms? Into woman sports?
Jackk, I wish you wouldnt lump lgb, together with t. No semi-normal person in history, until recently ever grew up believing they were the opposite gender. Trans people should be regarded by all as what they are -mentally ill, depressed people. Thats not to say at all we should exclude them from society, no thats definitely not what im saying. I wouldnt even mind calling one by their prefered gender if i ever met with one. But when we are dealing with a child, who is not mentally ill, rather simply confused, we shouldnt be teaching them that you can in fact choose your gender. And that is what I find problematic, and quite disturbing with your democrat heroes, who do indeed promote this lunacy.
Charlie-Before abandoning it.
Oh btw 2 of the “pro-trump” scumbags who stormed the capitol have been identified as members from antifa…wonder how many more there were…
The dirtbags who stormed the capitol may support the president, but in no way has the president, any republican, or any right wing media supported them and their actions. Quite the contrary, President Trump has said/tweeted repeatedly “NO VIOLENCE!” I am rather confused, and id appreciate if someone can explain it to me, why a video trump put out, telling everyone to go home peacefully, had him banned from social media. (i didnt get to see the video myself…)
Compare this to how when you had antifa/blm burning down private businesses, democrat leaders giving them a free pass, one even called it a “myth”…
As for America, R.I.P. 1776-2021
Not once in history, has a socialist government succeeded. Even today, people have to flee these types of countries…because in a socialist government, they give you everything, but expect you to give up your freedom in exchange….just scroll through history…
A silver lining-or perhaps a lot more than just a silver lining, is that i have been forced to realize how badly we need moshiach. At this rate, in the not-so-distant-future, not even will America will be able to provide a safe haven for those who flee from tyranny. And even if we dont end up there, i have seen how close we came to being in that position. Now Im pretty sure we need moshiach for a LOT more reasons, and a LOT more important reasons, but america’s death has done me pretty good in this regard….
ubiquitin-sorry, but you dont get to just “admit it was a dumb pun”, after making a stupid political statement that didnt age well. He meant it when he said it, and he said it with a purpose.
Jackk-“You can’t imagine republican parents having kids that are t? Why not ? I am sure that it is as common as democratic parents.” im sure its not. Because while you may have republicans with crazy depressed kids, Republicans wouldnt encourage and normalize such behavior. ”t people are alive in the US and need to be given the same rights that every other US Citizen has, no matter how detestable and disgusting they are to every frum yid.”-what “rights” are they missing?
Jack, yes there are plenty of Republicans that are lgb-and I never had a problem with that (not that I approve of lg, but I feel the government has no business in other people’s personal lives)-its the “t” that I have a problem with, it’s the “t” that is sheer lunacy, and no I can’t imagine too many Republicans that are trans.
Charlie-the “prayer given by a christian minister” isn’t the problem here-its the fact that a standard word was “cancelled” for not being “inclusive”….this is just ridiculous….
This conversation is ridiculous, we can keep just calling each other liars, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again-if all is clean, why have election officials pushed back so hard against a thorough audit? I know if it was the other way around, as human nature dictates, knowing that all is clean, I would LOVE to conduct a thorough audit, just to stick it to the other side…you don’t to have the benefit of the doubt when all you’ve been doing is covering up evidence.
Firstly, the statistical irregularities have never, been addressed, additionally, the Amistad Project has identified tens of thousands of illegal votes in Georgia, underage voters, out-of-state voters, double voters…they’ve sent the information to the office of the sos-with no response whatsoever.
And you guys flipping out that trump is “threatening” raffensperger, what he’s saying is pretty simple. If he doesn’t a adequately address the concerns, he will be primaried, and he will lose. Because gop voters won’t stand for this nonsense.
that’s it, nothing wrong with that.
Being that there were tens of thousands of illegal votes, I don’t see what is wrong with trump requesting the secretary of state of Georgia uncover them. Still befuddled how a thorough audit wasn’t yet conducted. More time is spent on every play of a football game, making sure everything is straight. And your label “fascism” describing trump, and comparing him to mussolini, is not just misplaced-its downright disgusting as it completely deligitimises true fascism. Furthermore, being that the overwhelming percentage of -orthodox- jews actually support trump, (ami poll, 85%), your disdain for all trump supporters can be linked to disdain for rov am yisroel. Perhaps, just perhaps, we support trump for what he has done, standing between the Liberal Lunatics who wanna take away gender assignment, and us. What he has done for israel. What he done pushing conservative policy. You can baselessly scream “RACIST, BIGOT…” but you can’t expect us to do the same.
Keep an eye on the novavax vaccine, it’s entering stage 3 trials, and is the traditional lab-grown virus type of vaccine, rather than the new mRna type, which some are afraid of…
If lockdowns work, why is israel locking down for the third time? you wanna answer that the virus slows when we lockdown and spreads when we open up, so shouldnt we have one continuous 5 year lockdown?(destroying countless lives in a non-covid manner…)
Do blue lockdown states own better covid statistics than red states? Are we supposed to follow and listen to politicians who endlessly break regulations they set forth for us? Or deborah birx who is “retiring” after being caught traveling with family members from 2 other households? Or media networks which promote “certain” science, and “certain” doctors, while silencing and censoring those who offer a different stance? As far as im concerned, masks MAY work, and so i will wear a mask WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO WEAR ONE! That means not in my car, not outdoors, and not indoors where there is no problem to social distance…mask wearing started off as “wear one when social distancing is not possible”. Now, its practically a religion. And one who refuses to wear one in a situation that doesnt warrant mask wearing, is demonized as a selfish animal. This virus has overall been tremendously politicized. But who is surprised.
Aaq-sounds like a plan.
YSF156-thank you very much for your input. What you say goes hand in hand with what we’ve seen regarding the govt, big pharma’s handling of the life saving hydroxychloroquine.
Zvei dinim-my concern doesn’t even necessarily rely upon the govt being corrupt. Even if they were tzaddikim, there are doctors who aren’t so comfortable about this new type of vaccine.
Akuperma-“Anyone claiming absolute knowledge of the matter is lying or a fool”
What I’m worried about is the exact opposite. Us NOT being able to claim absolute knowledge of the matter(vaccine). Yes, the chance of dangerous long term side effects is super low, which is why I agree 100% that anyone at-risk should absolutely get the vaccine asap.
AAQ -you seem to be sure taking the vaccine will stop transmission-but is that so? If yes, then I fully understand why the young should vaccinate, but a Google search tells me otherwise…
“The virus is deadly, that’s a וודאי”-you mean covid is like a 100% be’vadaus death sentence?? You do realize, that even for the most at risk patients, the survival rate is >95%…
That being said, I do understand a high risk person shouldt think twice about taking the vaccine, as the benefit surely outweighs the risk at this point. What I don’t understand, and maybe someone could explain it to me, is why should young adults and children take the vaccine? At first I thought maybe because taking the vaccine would make you unable to transmit the virus, but after a google search, I found that is not the case. A total of 95 people up to the age of 14 have died from covid in the US. An additional 458 in the 15-24 age group. Does the benefit outweigh the potential risk in these age groups?
Your probably not aware, but in a recent appearance before the senate, Jack Dorsey(Twitter CEO) said that holocaust denying does NOT break Twitter rules and isnt censored…
Besides, it is well documented how twitter accounts calling for the destruction of Israel is given a pass…while those promoting Israel’s defense is banned for “breaking Twitter rules….”
I’ve heard about security issues with parlor…
Either way, the way Twitter and big tech censors Doctors that don’t parrot the mainstream media narrative is such a tremendous threat to democracy….
I’ve heard of 2 studies recently, one was published in the NEJM and one wasnt.
The one that was-“assigning gender at birth has no positive impact and may have a negative impact later on… ”
The one that wasn’t- a large study on masks showing it mostly ineffective…
This is where the world is at….
To all those claiming warnocks statements were taken out of context, can you please explain the context? Warnock is a radical’s radical. Yes I get it, you wanna turn the Senate blue, but let’s be straight on that instead of you looking like fools trying to defend him. Oh btw, you guys had no problem taking trumps comments out of context(specifically his comments on Charlottesville) and utilizing them to paint trump as a racist…
My point is all you leftys hating on trump, you are welcome to hate on him, but assuming you are registered democrats, you don’t vote in Republican primaries….
Ctlawyer all due respect you were supposed to understand I meant 90%of gop voters, not total voters, I thought that was obvious…
This thread(not that I care) wasn’t intended to debate his actions and accomplishments, leftists will always scream how terrible he was, they’ll always without reason at all call him a liar, bigot the, racist…….
this thread was intended for the commensaychels of YWNCR…conservatives who don’t like trump and his personality….though it is always funny to hear leftys hate on trump for being impeached -when he was impeached for something Biden did😂😂
What makes Biden “so diverse” is the (D) next to his name!😂😂
Trump got the most non-white vote of any Republican in 60 yrs!😁
Timothy king vs gretchen whitmer.
Not sure why your confused as to why a court rejecting a case on “standing”, has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the case. Meaning to say, the court rejecting the texas case on “standing” says nothing about the legitimacy of claims. This election could have been obviously stolen, democrats could have admitted they stole it, and scotus still wouldn’t have taken the case.
” includes the forensic audit from michigan,”
“This wasnt released by Sidney Powell”
Not sure what your point is.