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What’s so bad about learning Torah. Plain. Without the prestige… fanfare… just some good old Torah (Taireh, Toyruh, Tooraah) Lishma. Anywhere. For HaShem’s sake. Nobody to see you… nobody to ooh and ahhh… Not even to “shteig” and become a “somebody”. Just learning for it’s OWN sake… Great idea..
Four houses and then a hotel.
oops, I forgot, if you don’t have a computer, you’re probably not going to be able to read this (or that)
Three and a half answers to you very good question. Let me try…
#1) Our communities and basically all of the metropolitan area (I think) had it already in one form or another. The missed opportunity to prevent this at the VERY ONSET is what made it spread like wildfire. Once we all caught it (about Purim time), self isolating, quarantining and distancing was way too late. It could be argued the in fact it did NOTHING AT ALL for us – we all caught it in the following weeks regardless. And there is very strong evidence that once you caught it – the antibody thing – you’re not gonna get it again. At all. So basically there’s NOTHING AT ALL FOR US TO WORRY ABOUT AT THIS POINT (most of us)
#2) At some point one has to make some sort of cheshbon, a conclusion, that the merits of “breathing” outweigh the concerns of this distancing thing. People are going off the edge. Take a look at society lately (or rather don’t bother) … When too many people are layed off.. when too many people (call them what you like) have plenty of time on their hands… you’re creating a most dangerous situation. These nincompoops sitting in their large offices, the once who think they’re the most important, most informed, most knowledgeable in their “fields”, they don’t take this into consideration. And that’s why America looks like it does. The looting, burning down stores and cities, pulling down statues… and EVERYONE’S FOLLOWING THEM LIKE BLIND SHEEP. They have the platform today… because they have the mobs backing them… because there’s nothing else to do. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. And if they don’t do something pretty soon … בטלה מביא לידי שעמום, Chazal knew human nature more than anyone living today. LIFE MUST RETURN TO NORMAL NOW!!!
#3) These clueless “leaders” are just that. So wishy washy. The only way to get them to say something or do something is by getting President Trump to say or do the opposite! And they’re trying to hold on to any vestige of power still in their power hungry hands. Full of agendas. 15 debriefings a day.. the mayor, the governor, this baal ga’ah, that know it all — day in day out.
In Japan there’s a saying:
GENUG IS GENUG!
These nincompoops in power have to realize that keeping kids on the street is a bigger danger, both to the kids and to society. Do you think the “demonstrations” happened by itself? The firecracker pandemic? “Defund the police?” It’s a whole segment of people with plenty of time on their hands.. As the Mishnah states boredom leads to idiocy, insanity. And we are seeing it right before our eyes. If this continues, America will be taken dismantled… Actually it IS coming apart!
So the question is do we kill the people in order to save them?!? These haughty “professionals”, “experts” are, at best, single minded individuals who know nothing out of what their field is or was. They may know something about how the virus spreads (actually we see daily how little they know, things change so fast back and forth. The latest of their findings change direction almost DAILY!). But they don’t know what the effects of locking people up, especially children, for endless month. Made to stare at the ceiling from morning to night, seven days a week. One month. Two months. Three months. And counting!!!
Second note – the camps actually submitted an excellent proposition and plan how the camps would operate; they stated that they would quarantine IN CAMP, and not let any contact with the campers. To any sensible person that’s far better than having a day camp where children mingle AND THEN ARE SENT HOME DAILY – to further spread the virus. Only an individual with a head screwed on backwards – OR SOMEONE WITH AN AGENDA – thinks that quarantining in camp is worse than letting it out.
I don’t know why the Jewish Camp Association doesn’t get me to fight for them. I’d let those who think they’re in power have an earful – and then some!! SOMEONE HAS TO SOUND OUT!
Beep beep (is that spelled correctly?). Anyone in back of me?
CA, For the time being (until someone on the top of the totem pole gets the message) we cannot allow for children C”V to go on the busses (or buses, actually even both). But we CAN drive them without children to Albany and slowly march around town, all 5,000 of them, slowly circling around the streets. One day, two days… maybe someone over there would realize that it’s not such a good idea to keep camps closed.
BTW 5,000 buses isn’t so much, every Mosad could send in maybe 5 or 10. As a side benefit, maybe clear up some parking space…
Another thought popped into my (extra bored) head. Why not send a petition to President Trump to ban overnight camps. That will certainly do the trick.
I’ll let you know soon. First I have to distract the Governor and the state police (wouldn’t want them to know, would I?)
RY: Too much English…
ps… what happened? Went to the county a bit too early and got bitten?
שאלה גדולה שאלת. David Hamelech also pondered such questions. HaShem showed him the usefulness of each creature… They all serve a purpose in HaShem’s great orchestra.
I don’t like the heading. At all. Say what you want. Protest too. But no name calling a sitting president.
גם במדעך מלך אל תקלל
Was referred about a king who did much worse. On purpose.
Good to know you’re still around…. y’know, these days….
כל הנשמה תהלל ה
כל נשימה ונשימה
And we see it, literally.
אי”ה by Shavuos it will be over.
The first Shabbos in all the Shuls will be spectacular. NOT A PEEP! The entire Davening. EVERY SHUL!! Many will try to augment and savor that spectacular feeling, there will be Kabolos in many Shuls not to talk by Davening. To give HaShem His proper due respect – one positive outcome of this tzara.
Also this Shabbos Kria will be quite long. It will be Vayakhel – Pekudai – Vayikra – Tzav – Shemini – Tazria – Metzorah – Acharei – Kedoshim – Emor – Bhar – Bechukosai – Bamidbar – Naso. (since the majority of Yidden did not have Keria since.
There will be many, many Gomels, maybe even the ENTIRE congregation – since anyone alive was literally in the situation and place of dire Sakana – and got saved. (I’ll leave this decision up to the Rabonim)
Then there will be a Kiddush – a Kiddush to remember. No – not for the food and drinks, but for the words of thankfulness and gratitude to the Ribono Shel Olam for ending this terrible plague. For the words of Chizuk offered at the occasion. For the warm (may I dare think it?) HANDSHAKES, HUGS, KISSES, ETC. , for human interaction and connection. For the resumption of humans to live as humans!!!
I see it coming (I have that crystal thingy). One day we’re going to be able to smile in public, and offer one another a hearty handshake!! That day is coming. Closer, closer. Ever so close.
Oh do I remember this one!!! This is one of those questions that come around from year (or maybe 2, or maybe 3 or maybe 4, but definitely not 5) years. That’s how I gauge how much time (what’s that?) has passed. So if I remember correctly from last time, the first answer is that I don’t comment here. That answers all questions.
The second answer is mostly to drive people off the web, back into the world of reality – of people, places and things. So when I go and rant my mind off, that in of itself is a great incentive.
The third answer is the sometimes I may THINK I have something important enough to broadcast to the world at large, something I felt the world is just waiting for…
Fourth – sometimes just a quip, a joke (r”l) or a line, maybe a word of Chizuk, something to share with another, something which to brighten up another person’s day. A kind word, a virtual smile / giggle, a thoughtful piece of comfort… Bringing a lift to another, to changes another’s bleak, dismal outlook to that of a bright, sunny future…
Olam Chesed Yibaneh – that’s what we’re all here for, no?April 21, 2020 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm in reply to: Corona is another step in our long Golus. A nisayon, not a rejection. #1851660
Haimy, Nice piece. Thank you!
I guess it’s bashert no one read this… (posted last night)
Thank you, all.
I feel lately like I’ve joined in and participated with צרת הכלל. I found out what I need a head for (where else would you put an ongoing pounding headache?), the lungs and etc.
Hallucinating forever in bed, I gained another insight into the words וחכמים כבלי מדע, ונבונים כבלי השכל.
Imagine – so many organizations and centers, bureaus, offices and divisions all charged with keeping our world safe. They’re all preparing bedavka for such a scenario… such an occurrence… years and years, study after study, universities after universities – all in guard to ward off such a massive catastrophe. What is the WHO for? CDC? And all the rest. All the brains, from the top medical advisor all the way to the bottom. WHERE ARE THEY?!? And a lot of them saw it coming (as will be unveiled to the public in the coming days, months, when each entity knew what), and did not or could not do anything to prevent this.
There’s this famous clip of the PM in Eretz Yisroel being interviewed by a secularist and HE says something about davening to HaShem… The matzav is definitely causing a lot of people to realize that אין לנו להישען אלא על אבינו שבשמים.
At the precise time He deems fit, a cure / remedy / vaccine will be discovered. I beg you, HaShem, please make it quickly. Too many karbanos.
Sam: the question was what are you doing while at home, not what I can do. (I don’t suppose you’re learning with my children..)
If you want to fast from today till next doomsday it’s fine with me, or most people, don’t spew your contorted ideas on others… Yes, everyone knows its a time for teshuva, no need to cash in on it (like every time something happed…) There are true Gedolim who we follow, who we listen to… No one call for fasting – actually REAL Gedolim stated to the contrary – one should absolutely NOT fast in a time like this.
Don’t know. Seems like the place here is also in the blink. I’m having major problems logging on from my computer (something about ssl giberish).
And I can’t log on to the main section. So I’ll have to post it here – it’s about the piece “NYC Passes 20,000 Coronavirus Cases; NYS Has 12,000”, which was funny last night, because then it read “NYC Passes 20,000 Coronavirus Cases; NYC Has 12,000” – see url. OK. They fixed it. Oh really? Anyone else out there chaps?!? (No I don’t mean outside rachmana litzlan, lo aleinu, chas v’sholom – I mean out here in this world)
hint, for those on planet Z, NYC is a city (always wondered what the C stands for) in NYS (assuming S stand for state)
Reminds me of a sign…
Last one alive please shut the lights…
No. I’m in my over the ground bunker…. Dose anyone know – is there any weather outside today?
I remember watching some time ago a debate with someone about the era of Mashiach. And the guy asked the Rabbi “Do you really believe the whole world is going to collapse or maybe some otherworldly disaster or occurrence will descend from above”? And the Rabbi replied that he doesn’t know exactly how it would unfold, only that we’ll know when it happens.
Yes, it IS unfolding right here (and there and everywhere) before our very own eyes! Something so NATURAL AND SPECTACULAR! Both, together, concurrently. HaShem is using his very natural nature to show his might and glory! ואין מידי מציל, no technical advances can defeat His will, no scientific developments will overcome His bidding. עד עת בא דברו, until He wills it, until He sends His word forth…then the בורא רפואות can and will send (by simple discovery or difficult, complicated experimentations ) a medicine or vaccination, or just make it disappear!!!
And another thought:
Recognize the influence and affect of one bad, evil contact. There are one million healthy people and all you need is just one infected to cause all of them to catch it. No amount of health, no strength in numbers (majority) is going to help. Only cleanliness, removal of the effect – disinfecting, isolation etc., where one removes the germ in its entirety. Once it enters – it’s a different story…
So too, the hashpoah of a bad neighbor, acquaintance, friend, contact. Just as a thousand tahor utensils won’t clean a tamai one, to the contrary – they all become tamai from the lone tamai one…
(if this doesn’t end soon… I’m going to be at this until…)
Does this thing go away once I’m finished cleaning for Pesach?
I’d say Frielach translates to happy, and Tamid means always.
So, it could be, maybe, possibly, that instead of vinching (it’s a special kind of tool) you a happy Purim, he’s wishing you a happy forever. (most people are happy on Purim, why’d you need a Bracha for that?)
MFF MMMFFF FFF MMMFFF
(that’s me trying to communicate from behind my masked disinfected, sanitized, pasteurized spacesuit)
They’re call environ Mental ists for a reason.
Oh, and if you meet up with one of those crazies you could send them regards from the globe called Brooklyn. It’s not sinking, last I checked. Here to stay for as long as HaShem wills it. They can come live here from all those remote areas of their “globe” they claim is going under — “within 12 years!!”
— to get it out of your system
I’m almost sure the notzrim did not speak English
You ARE a Kluger Yid!!!
Sorry for that long winded derasha, Certainly did not mean it to be “lofty” or anything of that sort.
To clarify, of course I pick the better of the two… And there are two issues I’d like to further clarify:
#1) He doesn’t go around throwing, spewing and broadcasting his lifestyle upon us. A goy, like all other goyim, some with a bit more, some with a bit less.. nothing for a Yid to admire. Again, as Rabbi Miller זצ”ל says over and over, the best of אומות העולם cannot hold a candle the the lowest of עם הקודש. But the mere fact he doesn’t turn it into some “pride”, that of itself is something.
#2) He’s OUR PRESIDENT now. And Chazal say גם במדעך מלך אל תקלל, I think it surely applies to our sitting President. We don’t curse or bad-mouth him.
#3) As someone else mentioned, his views aren’t skewed, they’re more aligned with an upright, moral standard of lifestyle. As opposed to the others who are so open headed and mindless. Right and wrong are so skewed… They’re worried about a planet they “claim” is sinking while they disregard their morals which has sunk.. to the depths…
We, as Yidden (that’s ‘Jews’, for the uneducated), have to stand up for what’s moral, upright, upstanding. And our ‘neighbors’ acknowledge that, they expect us, as HaShem’s chosen people, to do so. And that’s why every misstep chalila makes it into the news. Because we have a higher standard, a higher calling – whether we like it or not. We’re expected to behave differently.
As a visibly identifiable Yid (again, that’s a Jew), we cannot condone nor disregard moral depravity. It has to be called out again and again. It has to be known that “while current U.S. law cannot forbid, nevertheless it is still utter depravity. And I abhor it and call it out in no uncertain terms. I know it and you know it too.” Yes, it’s freedom of speech. Standing up for what’s moral is not outlawed (YET). Let them hear it over and over again, just as much as the democrats and liberals try to spew THEIR filth onto us. Just as much as they’re trying to rip away at human society, at the last visage of Godly grace, צלם אלקים.
President Trump, with all his … notwithstanding, still appears to hold on to these last stands of decency. Think of the moral decisions he’s made whether abortions, toeva community, so-called climate concerns… He’s also used his guts to stand up to the nations and do what needed to be done, whether Israel, UN, Iran, North Korea, China. He’s got a spine like no other president I can remember, BECAUSE of his personality. While we may not necessarily like it, sometimes it seems a bit… it’s all tools the manner he presides. That’s the President HaShem has chosen for us, הממליך מלכים, and he comes with all his tools. And boy has he made a splash – in the right direction.
These other no-gooders (dems, libs, וכל טמא לנפש), are just concerned with their power, their own agenda which is to wipe off the last visage of shame from human society. Anything’s ok. Just do your one thing. And then turn it into a pride!! Hear that?! Turn shame into pride. Disgusting. And then these nincompoops who want to tear down human society, are so concerned about climate change. (For those who don’t recall – first it was global warming… but when proven that there’s nothing to substantiate that claim, they turned their mission to climate change. Like in the olden times the weather didn’t change!) Which again, all these Copenhagen chachmei Chelm notwithstanding, there’s nothing to back their claim either. No – AOC and Co. – the world is not going away in twelve years! Unless Brooklyn is from some other planet, I don’t see it sinking.
What is sinking at an alarming rate is basic human decency. But OH. And Duh! That’s what dems and libs are all about.
Is that the guy from the snow removal fiasco, the one who had others fired because of HIS blunders?!?
Is that the guy who changed the laws to allow himself to be mayor for three terms and then afterwards changed it back so that no one else could do it?!?
What does wiring have to do with the lifespan of the LED?
How ’bout me?
Sorry. I’m going to have to wait until next year’s nittel to cont<<LINE CUT OFF>>
Am I an “intelligent yid”? I’m far out here in the CR planet.
Hurry… Fast… Anyone?!?
Just 20 minutes left…
I’m big. Pretty big. (OK, not pretty, but big) And I try to learn Daf Yomi. Does that mean I’m not a Rabbonim?
And I was thinking that this crowd over here supposedly of the “Yeshiva” type (as is Yeshiva World), would appreciate Gedolim. Good Heavens – this was a Siyum Hashas for some people (for those uneducated – that’s the completion of the Babylonian Talmud “daily reading”), they’re here to celebrate that long milestone with some meaning, feeling, inspiration. They’re not here for some concert with those other “gedolim”, who’ve nebach become the leaders of today’s lost sheep. They were here to bestow nachas to HaShem, to be encouraged to plow on. To give encouragement…
True, some singing is in store… a Chasuna needs music and dancing (and what a chasuna it was), but let’t not forget the Ikkur. Our heros are our Torah Gedolim, not those musical artists. We (should, of course) strive to emulate the ways of our Torah greats, it is to them alone who we look up to.
Yeah…. reminds me… Does anyone know how to post something here?
LOOOOOOOOOONG time no see…. (actually, that’s a good sign!) Hope everything is fine…
Chash… Obviously you’re new here. This place has been “home” to many peoples, all walks of life, for many a year. You may not know… this place – scratch that – this home has a long history. Some have moved out, (some have moved UP) some are still here. This place went through a LOT (putting it mildly), many cycles… ups and downs, right, left and mostly upside down! Many personalities, opinions, feelings, ideas and ideals. Each had what to offer… Every once and a while someone ‘from the old time’ would come by and leave another “I WAS HERE (AGAIN)” post in the form of another quip…
Though I may not “Know” my sister at the opposite side of the mechitza, a fitting Mazel Tov best wishes is surely proper. Family is family, no?!?
Syag… It’s my fault… I got up in the morning in a good mood… trying to see the good, the brighter side in everything.
See? Here (center of the world, “YiddishKite”,aka BP) is’t a bright, glorious rainy day today!!!
Syag… Please allow me this once…. I think just a casual reading of the post make it abundantly clear he was only pulling the OP’s leg. Albeit his modus operandi… In my opinion it was surely in jest.. too appealing to let it go by..
That’s WONDERFUL news. Thanks for sharing with us.
May you build a home together worthy of having the Shechina join in. May accomplishment, happiness, gladness and goodness accompany you and yours forever more…
..the croakings of Little Forggie..
Sometimes you have to park “out of town”, and walk to your house!!
Who revived this one?!? I totally forgot!!!
(and still no one ‘chapped’ the pun intended in the question)
Who cares? It’s the “PARK” that’s a misnomer. Ever tried?!?