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  • #2487492
    RightJew
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    @UJM:

    Although the deceased Satmar Rav may have rejected some of the tactics of the Neturei Kapos, the current Satmars are not obeying the directives of the deceased Satmar Rav.

    It appears that a fake distinction between Satmars and Neturei Kapos has been manufactured to protect Satmar business interests.

    Your pathetic fake slander of Netanyahu is obvious – he is not “Chazer-Fressing”, the Knesset does not serve chazer.

    Netanyahu is constantly responsible for protecting Jewish lives in Eretz Yisrael, so he cannot really keep Shabbos.

    Is Netanyahu a pious frum Jew? Definitely not.
    But I’m pretty sure he has more of an olam habah than NYC Satmar/Neturei Kapos who aid and abet enemies of the Jews.

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    yankel> the main point he was making is – that one cannot trade
    > trade – meaning gaining one thing for the benefit of another

    Thanks for the clarification. If this were a real equal trade-off – maybe you can rely on shev ve lo taase. For example, if you are under Nazis in Poland, maybe not worth running towards being under communists in Poland. Or, if you are under communists in Poland, no reason to run towards Nazis in Poland … but in this case, I don’t think there was a symmetry – there was no magic frum oilam left somewhere protected that would have been better than matzav in EY. Small yerushalmi kahal, as important as it was, could not stand on it’s own.

    #2487632
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    Yankel Berel, thank you for your valuable quote from the Penei Yehoshua ZTL ZYA.

    I wish you a happy Chanukah and a safe and warm winter.

    #2488092
    ujm
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    #2488096
    ujm
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    WrongJew: Aside from the obvious fact that your drivel is filled with complete and utter obvious falsehoods (including but far from limited to the fact that Neteurei Karta is a Litvish group), the fact that you positively quote an open and proud Mechallel Shabbos and Chazer Fresser like Netanyahu as your ideal ‘tzadik’, completely discredits you from anyone in the Torah world — and, in fact, from every Orthodox Jew.

    #2488214
    ujm
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    #2488261
    yankel berel
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    @rightjew

    its not my ‘“Satmarism replacement theology”

    it definitely is authentic torah

    penei yehoshua is standard ‘authentic torah’

    this is basic to any beginner torah student …

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    re your quote of rambam — rambam himself conditions kapara with teshuva , al derech hapnei yehoshua — cf rambam hilhot tshuva

    without tshuva there is nowadays no kapara at all

    also clear to any serious student of rambams writings
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    equally clear that rambam when he says ‘amru hahamim’ — rambam is referring to the gemara in ketuvot which is the subject of the PN’Y

    which I quoted

    so again —- according to the torah as we received it from the previous generations —- not sure who should really be weeping here ….
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    #2488264
    yankel berel
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    rightjew :

    Your pathetic fake slander of Netanyahu is obvious – he is not “Chazer-Fressing”, the Knesset does not serve chazer.

    Netanyahu is constantly responsible for protecting Jewish lives in Eretz Yisrael, so he cannot really keep Shabbos.

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    total rubbish.

    because knesset is not serving chazzer , is that proof that bibi doesn’t privately eat chazzer ???

    where is elementary logic ???

    because bibi is responsible for lives in EY , is that an excuse for bibi’s documented unrelated hilul shabbat ???

    reasoning and methodology used — reminds me of somejew and katan …..
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    #2488265
    yankel berel
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    @AAQ

    the whole idea from rav mibrisk was that no trade off is permitted —- at all .

    equal or unequal .

    nothing .
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    #2488564
    ujm
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    This is the regular jackbooted Zionist Gestapo unit, often on horseback:

    Justice Ministry Probing Police Violence After Yasam Officer Filmed Beating Chareidi Youths in Jerusalem

    #2488675
    yankel berel
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    ujm should not use the word gestapo when describing israeli police tactics even when they are unjustified

    there is no comparison whatsoever between gestapo tactics and israeli police tactics

    any objective researcher of the holocaust will concur

    usage of totally inapropriate language , besides being factually incorrect and undermining ujm’s credibility …

    … also supports the villains who are waiting to spill our own and ujm’s brothers innocent blood
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    ujm
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