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    ujm
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    ujm
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    ujm
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    Shimon Katz
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    This “conversation” has one whopper of a title! Ujm, don’t you think you exaggerated a little?

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    Yaakov Yosef A
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    Shimon – A day in the life of the “Coffee Room”. This should really be called the “Rage Room”.

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    SQUARE_ROOT
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    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:

    During the 1991 [CE] Gulf War, Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer
    spoke on the phone to [Mr. Yisrael] Katsover
    [a longtime military reporter] almost every day:

    “He [Rabbi Moshe Sherer] didn’t sleep.
    Every missile that fell [on Israel] was a cut in his own skin.”

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    PERSONAL COMMENT:

    At that time, Israel was a Secular Zionist state with
    a Secular Zionist majority and Secular Zionist leaders!

    Yet Rabbi Moshe Sherer ZTL ZYA considered an attack
    against Israel to be like a wound on his own body!

    #2480294
    ujm
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    #2481583
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    When Rabbi Shteinmann ZTL ZYA came to Monsey,
    the Neturei Karta spit on his face.

    When will we Jews get SERIOUS about stopping this very dangerous evil?

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    Every member of the Neturei Karta is a LUNATIC.
    Every member of the Neturei Karta is a RODAIF.
    Every member of the Neturei Karta is a MOSAIR.
    Every member of the Neturei Karta is a CHILLUL HASHEM.
    Every member of the Neturei Karta is a SHONDA FOR THE G0Y1M.
    Every member of the Neturei Karta is a FANATICAL ANTI-SEMITE.

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    Neturei Karta Attacks Rav Moshe Hillel Hirsch:

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/2480878/boro-park-slabodka-dinner-proceeds-in-triumph-as-neturei-karta-fringe-launched-vile-attacks-on-rav-moshe-hillel-hirsch.html

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    SQUARE_ROOT
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    Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky ZTL ZYA said this about the modern State of Israel:

    The State of Israel was one example he gave of
    the need to replace kana’us with a more balanced view.

    On the one hand, he fully endorsed a letter issued
    by Rabbi Elazar Schach on the eve of Agudath Israel
    entering the governing coalition in Israel in 1977 [CE],
    which called upon the religious community
    not to be carried away by enthusiasm for a state
    founded as a secular state, whose laws are secular laws,
    and whose leadership is secular.

    He had himself frequently warned those leaving for Israel,
    “Don’t lose your head at the sight of a Jewish army.”

    At the same time, he [Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky]
    disagreed with the view of the Satmar Rebbe
    that the miraculous Israeli victory in 1967 [CE]
    was the work of the sitra achra (satanic forces):

    [Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky said:]

    ________I deny that miracles can emanate from a destructive satanical force.
    ________Miracles of such magnitude can only be performed by a force for good
    .”

    Reb Yaakov [Kamenetsky] felt that but for
    the creation of the State in 1948 [CE] a million Jews
    would have become assimilated as a result of
    the despair that followed the Holocaust and
    attributed the renascence [rebirth] of Soviet Jewry
    to the miraculous Israeli military victory in 1967.

    If only the Israeli government had also recognized
    Hashem’s miraculous deliverance in 1967 [CE],
    he added, history would have been changed.

    .…

    Similarly, he [Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky] concluded, recognition of
    Israel’s role in preventing millions of Jews
    from losing any connection to the Jewish people

    must mitigate our kana’us, even as
    our love for our fellow Jews in Eretz Yisrael
    must “not blind us to [their] shortcomings.”

    SOURCE: Reb Yaakov: The Life and Times of HaGaon
    Rabbi Yaakov Kamenetsky
    by Yonason Rosenblum,
    based on the research of Rabbi Noson Kamenetsky (chapter 11, page 209),
    Mesorah Publications, publication dates: February 1993 & January 2004,
    ISBN: 0-89906-413-2 (hardcover)
    ISBN: 0-89906-415-9 (paperback)

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    from from the ArtScroll History Series biography
    of Rabbi Moshe Sherer, chapter 22, page 547:

    In a fascinating letter to Rabbi Menachem Porush,
    written half a year after Israel’s dramatic victory
    in the Six-Day War [in year 1967 CE], Rabbi [Moshe] Sherer
    agreed “that what transpired were great miracles.”

    PERSONAL COMMENT:

    This short quote proves that Rabbi Moshe Sherer
    disagreed with those who said that Israel’s dramatic victory
    in the Six-Day War resulted from the sitra achra (satanic forces)
    [for example: the Satmar Rebbe].

    Rabbi Menachem Porush was a member of Knesset for Agudath Israel
    between 1959 and 1975 CE, and again from 1977 until 1994 CE.
    The Jewish Press published Rabbi Porush’s articles hundreds of times.

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    HaKatan
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    SQUARE_ROOT:
    As previously mentioned, you should be banned from commenting further until you apologize to those you falsely accused of being Hamas agents and the like.

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    ujm
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    evidence that the Agudath Israel organization is pro-Israel:

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    Yeshivah World News said this:

    “Agudath Israel of America expresses its appreciation
    to Ambassador Nikki Haley, whose service in
    the United Nations over the past nearly
    two years has been exemplary.”

    “Ambassador Haley’s voice was clear and consistent
    in championing the causes of human rights
    and democracy across the globe.”

    “Her strong support of Israel and articulate defense
    of its security made her a deeply respected figure
    in the Orthodox Jewish community.”

    “Agudath Israel represents and among citizens of
    goodwill of all faiths. She will be long remembered
    as a fearless fighter against the pervasive
    anti-Israel hypocrisy of the United Nations
    .”

    “We wish Ambassador Haley well as she leaves
    her post, and look forward to working with her
    again in the years ahead in whatever form
    of public service she may undertake.”

    SOURCE: article titled: “Statement Of Agudath Israel
    Of America On The Resignation Of Nikki Haley
    US Ambassador To The United Nations

    2018 October 10 at 9:30 AM by The Yeshiva World [News]
    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1602773/statement-of-agudath-israel-of-america-on-the-resignation-of-nikki-haley-us-ambassador-to-the-united-nations.html

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    ujm
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    YYA: If you observed anyone referring to the Republic of Ireland as the Fourth Reich of Ireland, would you get as bent out of shape as you do when you hear the State of Israel being referred to as such? If not, it appears you give the Zionist State some sort of messianic categorization.

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