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Avira, thanks for explaining details of how exact you are in your judgment of Talmidei Chachamim. I have to assume that they did some aveira in their life to deserve this din veheshbon in addition to the Big One. Maybe they did not say birkat hamazon with full kavanah, or forgot a blatt before bar mitzva .. As Syag is saying, if you are confronted with T’Ch having an opinion, especially in his area of expertise and you would like to disagree, you could read at least his 3-page article, or maybe 3 200-page books …
Note that R Twersky was asking Steipler Gaon regarding his plans to study medicine, so I would presume he was asking him later also. Steipler passed away when R Twersky was 55, so one could presume that he ran his major ideas by him.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipanter > Trump argued he had the “absolute right” to share anything with Russia.
er, I presume your are a Candian er, so you may not be aware: Trump had serious Anti-Russian policies. For example, he demanded from Germany to cancel NordStream-2 project, build LNG terminal, and increase defense funding. Germans finally agreed to LNG and then reconsidered after Trump lost election to someone. They are now claim to reconsider again without admitting that they were wrong.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCTLAWYER > He cannot perform the required steps himself. It has to be done by proscribed government employees according to set procedures.
Far from me to argue with the lawyer, but this seems to be a machlokes. There is a procedure, but constitution seemly gives President declassification authority (with few exceptions where classification is defined by law, such as nuclear). So “meduariata”, so to speak, he does not have to follow any procedures and, at worst, he violates a “medrabanan” procedure and gets malkos. THis will go circles and get to Supreme court by the time Trump is serving his second term (in the white house).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere is no reason to switch from your parents’ customs unless there is a very good reason. But you need to understand your minhag properly.
for example, many Sephardim hold by “when in Rome …” (not my words, afrom a Sephardi Rav). Thus, they had a turban in Baghdad, and their children will follow their minhag by wearing a black hat in Lakewood.
Chasidim forefathers switched from other minhagim to become chasidim, so they should not complain that their children switch to yeshivish or other chasidus.
People whose parents rebelled against religion, will respect their parents’ minhag and rebel against their non-religiosity.
OP focused on the rare exception: – Litvishe is most coming from people who were stubborn against modernishe, chasidishe, goyishe, etc, so there is a good reason to stand by their dress without changing. Those who do follow previous renegades, but disrespect their elders who chose not to change against all odds.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMy apology to R Twersky that my quoting him caused a poster to disregard the Rav’s long-held position (confirmed by his many years of practicing psychology). The poster is obviously having mixed feeling as he is. one one hand, avoiding capitalizing the names and title of people he disagrees with, and on the other hands does use proper honorifics and z’ls. So, yesh tikva, maybe time for PA (Poster Anonymous). Anyway, R Twersky was a humble person, but in my opinion, his books are even a better guide for any Jewish person looking for AA or any kind of middos improvement. If you are afraid of thick volumes, you can start with his pshat on Peanuts cartoons.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI did not ask original question, but the request to count “gedolim” leads to lists and protests, not just by me. (I think) I usually bring names in discussion of certain issues, and controversy starts with someone saying that you can’t quote this guy or that gal … I think it is OK to quote Torah positions even to people who disagree with an authority – at least, there is a chance that all sides will expand their horizons by learning more about the positions than the caricature they have in their minds. To the degree I did participate in mindless name-bringing, I apologize for the bizayon.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantOk, RebE, a simple question – why are you not excited about pursuing your policies in the state or city of your choice? Wherever you are, in NY-Northeast area, I presume. NY currently has an un-indicted governor and NYC – mayor for a chance, both at the same time, so this could be a great time to show the world how great policies work. Or, you can point us to specific policies that you want other states to emulate, like Obama pointed to Romneycare: the latter as so popular in MA that Obama had no problems making it work in IL, or, wait, that is not how it happened, never mind.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, you can’t appeal to history of “same gave over” with a straight face, can you? We had about a 100 of claims and impeachments, each of them outrageous to begin with and then disappearing, as Syag is describing. This, unfortunately, desensitizes all of us to any kind of aveiros. Please ask the guys on your side to be more selective and pursue only the most promising leads. Not only this is tiring but also destroys the moral fabric of the country.
(Not) incidentally, Alan Dershowitz is already out with an OpEd in WSJ making a good argument why “what about Hillary” sentiment should not be laughed at: if we have punishing laws applied selectively, the country will be destroyed. And he brings some examples there. He then politely requests Mr. Garland to explain in more detail what exactly makes this search warrant different from all other cases. See there for legalese.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag, they are waiting for the second shoe to drop before pounding. Whether Trump was imminently planning to send nuclear codes to Putin via alpha bank basement server or not.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag, I agree – he is saying that others are saying so and he is responding. I find an interesting nekudah in his explanation: some people are looking for an excuse to not deal with the problem, and saying AA is not kosher is just an easy way for them to deny … In other places, he makes a point relevant to many entrenched positions here, whether on politics or anything else: the smarter the person is, the easier it is for him to convince himself in the correctness of his ways despite all the evidence to the contrary. The smart person can always explain the facts away.
Back to yoga, I don’t know enough to know how much “non-denominational” value is there. I just feel there is no urgent need to consider kashering it, other than keeping up with the Joneses/Cohens. you can walk, bike, swim, do calisthenics, I never heard of diseases that yoga is the only way to deal with. I typed “yoga cure for” into google and first suggestion was “diabetes”, it is all about relaxation and mindfulness, something that a Jewish person could achieve within the Jewish tradition. Without eating sugary cakes, in this case.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHow wise was heilike Chofetz Chaim in hilhos lashon hara who says not to praise people, unless they are 100% fully recognized tzadikim – and he is probably the last one who qualifies. So, an innocent question to list roshey yeshiva inevitably devolves into why someone else’ RY is not kosher. Maybe the poster could compete – here is a chiddush from my RY, show me a better one.
August 14, 2022 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm in reply to: A I Stone versus Tyrwhitt or Brooks Brothers #2115086Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantno novi required, we have chachamim – spend on yourself less than your income, on your wife more than your income. So, find out how much your wife spends on clothes, and spend way less.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE, I feel you are going to next ask me when did I stop beating my wives!
Of course, rich are already paying more than others – even if everyone pays 10% of their income, a rich person is paying more. Gemora, I think, in Bava Basra considers several cases of how to access taxes, viewed somewhat as user fees.
In addition to tzedokah and paying for people who perform communal duties (Leviim) – all together ~ 20% , we have some services that apply to everyone, such as protecting city walls (border patrol, Dept of Defense). How would you pay? I guess both by person and by income – everyone needs their life to be protected equally, but property protection is protected proportionally to income.
All in all, it seems that taxes should be a little less than proportional – many services are proportional to property, and some are per person, with some exemptions, such as Talmidei Chachamim. I do not see any suggestions of “progressive” taxation – asking richer people to routinely submit larger and larger share of their income.
At the end, Bava Basra offers another approach – that a community (such a professional guild) – can create their own rules (in a case they do not have a chacham to ask). So, whatever a community agrees to, should be OK, however progressive it is. And as I mentioned above, the implications seems to be that such agreements should be done by smallest community possible. So, do your community, your town, your county, your state before you try to impose your views on the whole country. I am sure you agree to this approach – after all, you are not asking for a world-wide federal tax imposed by UN with Chinese and Russian vetoes, you agree to limit yourself to one country that has some common culture and a chance to come to an agreement. Why not devolve this lower so that we fight less? Rodef shalom …
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantUjm, AA started as a religious “non denominational” program and has references to G-d, the way, presumably, they understand Him. Quoting from THE TWELVE STEPS AND JUDAISM article by R Twersky, 1993:
“A.A. is Christian because meetings are held in church basements,” say some. While it is true that the majority of A.A. meetings are in churches, it should also be mentioned that few Jewish facilities have welcomed A.A. … If more rabbis and community leaders would overcome their resistance and denial, there is no question that more meetings will be held in Jewish institutions.“A.A. meetings involve Christian liturgy,” say others. While A.A. meetings generally close with the Lord’s Prayer, there is no rule in A.A. that precludes substituting a Jewish prayer. While others are reciting the Lord’s Prayer, one may say the 23rd Psalm or any other Jewish prayer.
“All the available literature on spirituality in recovery has Christian origins,” is another common complaint. Like the first objection, this is not inherent in A.A… lack of awareness about alcoholism among Jews is responsible for the absence of literature on spirituality.
He then goes thru 12 steps, explaining how each of them fits into Judaism, such as:
Step Two: Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. The Talmud states “A person’s temptations becomes more intense each day, and were it not that God helps him, it would be impossible for him to resist.” (Sukkah, 52b). This statement is universal, applying to all people, great or small, wealthy or poor, learned or unlearned.Step Five: Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. All the works of Jewish moralists and ethicians are replete with need for cheshbon hanefesh.
Step Nine: Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. The Shulchan Aruch, or Code of Jewish Law, states that all the atonement possible is ineffective if an individual has harmed another, unless forgiveness from the victim has been sought. If the wrong action resulted in financial loss, then adequate restitution is required.
He ends with a statement pertinent to a lot of threats here:
It has been said that new ideas often have a three-stage course. At first, the idea is thought to be anti-Jewish. Then it is decided it may be compatible with Jewishness after all. Finally, it is declared that Jews thought of it first. This theory notwithstanding, it is difficult to see how anyone can point to any conflict between A.A. philosophy and Judaism.Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE, as I mentioned shooting strawmen is not useful. Obviously you need some compromise between gevurah and chesed. And this compromise depends on the community it is applied to. For example, feds might provide minimal assistance to unemployed and illegals, CA may decide they will help unemployed more, San Francisco may decide to help illegals more, Jewish community may want to help parents and learners more. We can apply additional favorable assumptions about people within the community that will not be true for the country as a whole, such as half payment for animal damages that gemora brings in Roman analysis of Jewish law
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantR Twersky highly recommended AA despite the religious origin. What if I just stand on my head with crossed over legs – without even knowing where this comes from? Not in shul , of course.
On the other hand, why would one need yoga other than sound fashionable? You can walk for exercise and meditate before davening.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantShimon, I don’t think this includes embarking, does it? Going to maariv and staying there is not the solution I am looking for. On the kulah side, I see that “for the purpose of a mitzva” may extend to doing business and seeing a friend in some cases.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantTheory behind deficits as used by Reagan:
government programs are hard to eliminate. Every benefit relates to a specific group of people with whom it is popular. At the same time, cost is dispersed. It is just $2 for every citizen. So, every program has a voter block that will defend it, and fighting to close these programs one by one is hard.Instead, you reduce the total amount of money available to the government. Here people see substantial savings and support it. This leads to immediate deficits but eventually forces government to live within the means. This is like instead of convincing your teenager that ice cream is bad for him, you simply reduce the allowance if money is not spent well.
So, your real disagreement with Republicans is not “deficits” but whether we need more or less government involved in economy. Obviously, the right place is somewhere in the middle – we don’t want people without charity help, and we don’t want to live in Communist China. As to American reality, I think there is this place of compromise by having multiple layers of government and private charities. Each state, city, community is capable of doing a lot of things on their own. Then, people can choose where to live. I understand people who want to have political decisions different from my own, whether to the left or right. What I don’t understand when people want to restrict themselves and others from having peaceful choices. Especially those who had hasdei Hashem to escape totalitarian world. Another Hungarian, von Neumann, who witnessed (a little) both Nazi and Commie powers, became very committed helping US Army rather than participating in world socialists dreams as many educated people of his generation did.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE, you can’t study economy as Indian blind men were studying an elephant: each describing the part that he touched. In your personal finance, you can be a college graduate or a home owner with “deficits” due to acquisition of knowledge or assets. That is ok. So, just point that out without analyzing overall impact on economy is silly. And it is not even the country’s deficit you are talking about, but the government.
R Twersky describing how we are all affected by personal biases, recalls a rich man who had a socialist driver, who went to daily meetings where they railed against the rich, but the two were ok with each other. One night, the driver stayed home. The rich man asked him – why he is not at the meeting. The driver said – today that explained that after the revolution, they’ll divide all assets and everyone will get $4,000! I already accumulated $4,100 from your wages, so I am not interested anymore.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI think the problem with discussing movements and institutions, that one uses personal knowledge of one side and an external, based on papers or other lashon hara. No surprise, such fair comparison confirms your original bias.
So, to be fair, one needs to have personal experience in both, or be equally clueless about both! Or simply be a little more tolerant to other opinions.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantUjm,. A litvishe rosh yeshiva Ben litvishe Rosh yeshiva in Philadelphia
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWhen we talk about colleges, we need to define the terms. 80 years ago, 3% of US 20 y.o. population was going to college. This was an elite thing. In 1970 maybe 30% of men and by 1990, 30% of women. Now, it is 60-70%.
So, first, an “average” American now goes to college and work prospects for those who do not are diminishing both in quantity and quality.
Second, college education is not what it was to be, 90% of it is simply preparing people for routine jobs, not engaging in medieval philosophy. So, issues are completely different from what R Feinstein, R Hutner, etc were confronting.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantNote a worrisome new argument by a former supreme court wannabe: we have to talk about the investigation because the other side is saying dad things about our department. This is more like French or Russian revolution: you talk about the government, we are opening your files.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThis sounds like a high stake poker. We have to presume that DOJ knee how public this going to be, so they got to have good reasons.. Trump also knows what he has and doesn’t want to get in real legal trouble for no reason because of some nuclear codes that he will get back soon anyway. So something else is playing out. For example,. Trump knows he doesn’t have anything there and he sends a fake informant to the feds to help him launch the campaign and clear away the competitors. Or/and bidenistas are misjudging reaction same way they did in Kabul and Ukraine.. for example, yesterday they were asking to open the warrant saying; see T himself is afraid. That sounded as a brilliant political move by supposed career politicians.. for less than 24 hours
August 12, 2022 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm in reply to: In honor of Tisha B'av. What you respect about… #2114605Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI respect the lurkers who have enough seychel and self constraint
not to say anythingAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE I don’t have to read him as I don’t agree with him
I am stunned hearing this from such a tzadik. I hold the same position regarding Einstein, never agreed with him on anything.. Surely MF heard all bala batishe explanations before doing his Nobel prize winning research.. and note that there is way less inflation in the world after his theories got accepted. I would be interested in your opinion after you read MF. Some of his writings are quite accessible. Not saying that he is always right. He has an early paper comparing two similar sized economies, Hong Kong and Israel. His conclusion was that Chinese capitalism worked better than Israeli socialism. Of course, things changed in the long term,
August 12, 2022 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm in reply to: A I Stone versus Tyrwhitt or Brooks Brothers #2114600Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDon’t buy shirts better than your spelling, it is geniva daas for future mehutonim. That’s a real dilemma
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI sometimes have a minyan near me, 10 minutes by boat.. are there any kulos allowing getting there on shabbos!? A non jew rowing? Having food posted on the other side before shabbos?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon, cultures merge. Someone chashuv wrote already 40 years ago saying that Lakewood is litvishe teachers with Hungarian students.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvraham sent some kids to the East with gifts and -maybe- told them not to eat cows so that Jews have enough
August 11, 2022 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2114478Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI find it very useful when people put they/them on the resume so that I can toss theirs without having an awkward interview as in this thread
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIt is not always about quantity… 24000 early students of r Akiva were less successful than the later 5.
I heard a similar story about r Schwab refusing to give kibudim to non shomer shabbos people, majority of the congregation left, but modern Baltimore grew out of remaining small shul.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMenachem, I had nothing to do with this but it is indeed ironic that Shlomo was not able to apply his approach to his own son… I wonder if there are any perushim on this
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantJackk, are you claiming that because you were cheating by less than a perutah, we should still consider you an honest person? Unfortunately your claim is not valid because you are cheating again saying you cheated by less of a penny as you were off by 1.6 pennies
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRebE, and who is your source so that I could review? Or is this your reading of Milton Friedman?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMDG, as mentioned above, a Jew always have heirs. If there are no children, you go generation up to children of person’s father and check brothers, then children of grandfather – uncles, then grand-uncles. Thus, everyone has heirs unless someone in the chain is a ger. Then, I believe the property becomes hefker and whoever grabs it, has it. In the case of Hashmonaim, they are kohanim, so there are no gerim there.
Maybe Cohanim now can join together and claim to themselves the ruins of everything Herod built.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantI aalso lways use quotes around “frum” – because most people are using the word to improperly look down at some undefined mass of observant Jews who “ain’t frum”. To appreciate, I never heard someone who excels in chesed, or tzedoka, or middos be called “frum” because of that, it is usually based on more trivial things, like levush or limiting food choices. As in: “a driver stopped to let a pedestrian cross the road, I did not know he is so frum”
August 11, 2022 12:00 am at 12:00 am in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2114053Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWe have halakha that your local poor come first with concentric cirlces of increase of “local”, with EY adding priority. Many people say that their place of birth and yeshiva are their “locals”. But, this is of course, presuming have some credibility. I don’t use levush to jusge people either way – nor presuming that they must be tzadikkim if they dress like some T’Ch or judging them to be presumptuous for daring to dress like the Rov. But you can usually see middos by how people talk and act.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantjackk, thanks for sharing. I felt so down for the guy thinking that the only positive thing going his way were covid tests ..
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere is one and only one basic cause of inflation: too high a rate of growth in the quantity of money
Milton Friedman
August 10, 2022 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2113917Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYou are a trustee fór the poor and should treat their money at least as careful as yours, maybe more. Shmuel’s father would keep money hidden in 3 layers, 2 of his and the middle of yotomim, protecting them on both sides – from genavim and from water.
And it is easy to spend their money more efficient than your own, as there’s so much need … If you are buying house for yourself, you are limited to a neighborhood and your family members preferences. If you are looking to buy a house for poor people, you can invest where you can find a good property. If ny is overpriced, buy in Lakewood. If poor in Lakewood are getting free government food, buy food for poor in Florida. If you meet a person looking for help with a wedding, but looks suspicious, go to a gemach and find a worthy recipient. A possible argument against would be that Hashem sends you a mitzvah and you should do that rather than looking for a better one. So a need in front of you should have preference over slightly higher need in another place, as halakha says
August 10, 2022 8:01 am at 8:01 am in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2113764Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantDofi, great argument. Ujm, punishment is right in the Mishna – poverty and inability to give tzedoka
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGH, you mention specific declassification regulations, my Dershowitzian argument is that president can use his own procedure. The only problem would be if he were to take anything after 1200 on the inauguration day or maybe after the new guy takes a shvuye. I think a ganav acquires movables when he picks it up with the intent to take it even while still on property of the baal habait. In this case, T was still baal habait lavan when he picked them up and had declassification powers.
Again, if he were to sneak in later while new guy was sleeping at the wheel as usual, T would be hayav. I am sure this is discussed in halochos of renting real estate somewhere
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAAQ> , but I think Dems attempts to federalize it as well as other issues will help here.
Today’s FBI raid proves this point reviving Hillary and Hunter for elections. a great point, AAQ.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantjackk, thanks for starting posting correct numbers.
inflation in real life: I stopped by a retail non-Jewish grocery store (usually as all Jews I “don’t buy retail”), tried to pick up a 1.5 lb pack of chicken from the usual place, but the bottom park of the pack fell off! Turns out, they now sell thinner packages with 0.8 lb per pack… When I jokingly mentioned this shrinkage to the store employee, he claimed to “know nothing” about it. Next they’ll rename “chicken thighs” into “chicken thigh”.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantagain, Antipater was the slave in question and he was not a king, but a powerful king-maker. There was no reason for him to fail given his political talents, so surely his owners had yiush.
August 9, 2022 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2113694Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon,
as I understand old-days halakha, baaley tzedokah were responsible for checking out the recipients. So, this mishna may presume common practice (and seychel!).Maybe, there is more leeway if you give your own money. Still, a more detailed reference will be needed to make a decision.
August 9, 2022 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2113693Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> “Get a job!” yelled the rav,
I actually observed the Rav always calmly getting a thick pile of money out of his table and giving to them, while I was hesitating (in deserving cases, he might announce who it is and why).
I then asked whether to give in suspicious cases. He answered “give a dollar”. So, I don’t need to wonder any more how is a Rav in possession of such think pile of funds – these are all single dollars prepared for such cases.
So, the halakha seems to be – do not over-indulge, but do not offend either.
August 9, 2022 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm in reply to: The process of asking for money for a wedding #2113691Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram, re:educational system. Note that Bava Basra directly relates to the age of schooling. At least one of the methods tried during that period was to start at teen ages (and the result was that they did not listen to parents). So, they were not following Pirkei Avot. Maybe not surprising – avot misha is either by Yehuda b’ Tema or Shmuel HaKatan, both late tannaim who seemingly lived after the school experiments.
I accept a possibility, as you say, that avot advice may be normative and BM2 period was an exceptional period. But so are other periods, especially current one. Modernity uprooted so much and created so many opportunities – including our capability to measure results. So, I would say Bava Basra experimental approach is so relevant.
Also, Ketubot 50 discusses ages and seems to suggest that 6 and then 10 or even 12 are _earliest_ ages to teach, that is, one should not force a younger kid. This is discussed in Usha, so it is post-BM2 when things got even worse …
August 9, 2022 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm in reply to: Hospital to Haredi woman applying for job: ‘From Bnei Brak? Not with us’ #2113690Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantHe could have easily found a way to dismiss her without showing his attitude …
As Berdichever would say – look Eibishte how honest are your children, they’ll risk a lawsuit but will not lie! Hopefully, after this story, more nashei hayil from Bnei Brak will get jobs at Ichilov and Tel-Avivians
will start changing their attitudes when they encounter these nurses. -
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