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TLIK > . This was not quite as common in the Litvishe circles until more recently,
are you saying that the Litvishe kahal is assimilating? is this possible?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGiven how fast Russians are burning literal and figurative bridges, I would not invest in one going to an island with Russian speaking population (are they still on Brighton Beach or did it “gentrified”?).
I used to laugh at Clinton’s “bridge to 21st century” but would now gladly take to to get back to the 1990s. And it will be great to pay tolls with inflated 2022 dollars
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantRav Elchonon did live under real Evsektsia so he would know the difference. And so many Jews escaped communist part of the world to Israel both after WW2 and later on. Of course, evsektsiya members were murdered by soviets and Nazis by that time
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon, I indeed was not zoche to learn from R Miller in person, only from writings and tape, but I am familiar with his views on the topic. I don’t understand how his views on the topic contradict his equally strong views on learning from history (see above) and taking personal responsibility, like in his moshal of a kind person who invites a stranger into the house, goes to pour another cup of tea, and the crazy stranger meanwhile pouring hot tea into baby’s face. Someone would ask – how is the person punished while doing a mitzva of hesed?! The answer – while doing his hesed, the person did an aveira of leaving a baby with a crazy stranger – and was punished for that. Not understanding this leads people to say crazy things like we do not understand how Hashem can be so unfair (his words up to hear to my best recollection).
If you want to reconcile here the possible (unproven from the article) rudeness of Germans, you can say that Hasidim, while in the middle of their heilicke trip, tripped on following simple regulations and ahavas briyut, not talking about health of themselves and others, and were punished by given to the cruel German rule-enforces. Those who had masks on (if such exist) were punished for associating with bad neighbors and not preventing hillul Hashem. They were especially punished for associating this embarrassing story with a tzaddik who was such a gentle person that he would not even send a mouse to a galach if he was not prosecuting Jews.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThis looks like one more topic for the upcoming Republican congressional investigations after November. This is gonna to be one long dark winter. One minor nekuda I am interested in – who forced Pfizer to delay opening up spectacular Phase 3 results for after election.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantwhy half-quote Rambam?!
וְזֶה דֶּרֶךְ בְּנוֹת יִשְׂרָאֵל וּבְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל – this refers to both men and women referring to the previous para explaining hw the man should behave, not just women. For example, the 2nd par that she should do maaseiah al piv “everything that comes out of his mouth” sounds conditional on 1st par – not make her fear him veihe diburo benahas. So expressing “your will” in a fear inspiring or even strict manner seems to be out of question.One thing that is clear from this Rambam is that nobody should talk H’V to his wife the way people talk on CR – and expect to be treated as a King!
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantUjm, what I meant is that Kesuba (at least mine) lists my responsibilities and none of my rights against your claims. You need to leave mitzraim, you are in De Nile.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMarxist, great to see a real marxist on this board. Viva diversity! As relevant to this board, one of your namesake’s early writings (that is indicative of where he comes from) is a polemic with some German anti-semite pastor who wanted to assimilate Jews. Marx turns the question around and shows that all the world evil comes from Jews who initiated trade and capital accumulation, so he suggests saving the world _FROM_ those evil Jews. Sounds like an ominous starting impulse both for Soviet and Nazi anti-semitism. You probably know more on the matter and can enlighten us on this.
Avot d’Rabbi Natan supports this position: Hillel, I think, on the road – asks some farmers how much is their wheat. They say two dinars a bundle. He goes further, meets another group – they answer 3 dinars a bundle. Hillel tells them that he saw another group for 2. They say – we travelled from far away and worked hard, so we deserve 3 and quote “the reward according to the effort”. He tells them – (communist) fools! Meaning that reward goes by the effort in Torah learning, but not in business! In business, you charge according to market price that signals to you that maybe you should not shlep wheat to another country and lose money! Those were early commies who demanded to be paid according to planned economy, whether their work was efficient or not.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantBtw, did this come up because this is today’s daf in Yevamos that the man should honor his wife more than himself? First cheerful words after 60 pages of plagues killing brothers and sisters left and right and listing all perversions currently approved by the supreme courts…
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantNote that the tzaddik first asked about pastor’s middos. I wonder how would the tzadik paskened in a machlokes between a goyishe airline plagued by the tzadik’s unruly followers. Maybe he would call the mice to return.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira, Zionism is more comparable to left-of-center socialists rather than commies. In Jewish context in Europe, Zionists were fighting Bundists on whether to build socialist policies in Europe w/ Yiddish or in EY with Hebrew. Early Israel had actual communists, mapam, so you can separate between them.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantn0, you may have learned from a Trotskite idealistic haver, playing to the sorrow of the bloodily axed revolutionary. Trotsky innovated using bullets on his own army.
Just checked out wiki to make sure: Trotsky organized Soviet army in 1918, mobilizing 1 mln people, and installing political commissars to monitor commanders of every unit. EStablished death squads for his own army. In his own words ” Masses of men cannot be led to death unless the army command has the death-penalty in its arsenal…the command will always be obliged to place the soldiers between the possible death in the front and the inevitable one in the rear. The following applied to small businessmen as many of Jews were: The bourgeoisie today is a falling class… We are forced to tear it off, to chop it away.
And this is just the first page of wiki.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> be in American culture, it is only permissible to discuss women’s rights and men’s responsibilities.
says the man who either did not give ketubah or did not listen carefully when it was read to him.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantLearning from R Meir and Beruriah? of course, both from their achievements and shortcomings. Why would Gemorah bring those stories otherwise – just to make fun of them? R Yehuda himself brought Beruriah as a (positive) example to a guy who wanted to learn too much too fast.
Regarding the family, you can learn from Rav whose wife always sent him the dish opposite of what he requested and his “smart” son changed his words and made Rav happy for a moment (not just with the right dish, but with the fact that the wife changed her attitude).
There is a lot to learn from this (direct one – do not teach kids to lie even in permissible case of shalom), but – if you can keep the secret here – I learned to request the opposite of what I really want in those – rare, very rare! – cases when I expect make request to be reversed. It was most important for Rav to have a peaceful spouse, but I am humble enough to be satisfied just with the right beans in cholent.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere are kings and queens that are merely consorts of the reigning spouse, like recently in England (historically, mostly queens indeed, but there were enough real queens in history), and there are those where both were powerful, like Isabella and Ferdinand of Spain. Does anyone comment on what Rambam had in mind?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIt is hard to measure. Trotsky was a military leader and a visionary calling for an immediate revolution worldwide. Stalin was a behind the scenes operator who consolidated his power. European intellectuals were fascinated even by Stalin’s version, kal vehomer they might have bought the more inspiring version.
Trotsky was not more merciful, he was responsible for enough killings. When Chometz Chaim was running away, it was still pre Stalin, I thinkAlways_Ask_QuestionsParticipantR Salanter encountered a serious apikoires in an inn and they decided to debate publicly. Rav suggested that the loser should don the jacket of the winner (that is conservative v modern style). The other guy agreed. Then rav took his off to show that he is ready to follow up whatever the outcome. The other guy refused. Then r Salanter refused to debate if the opponent was not serious about it.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMishayos may be a long way to start getting there for a bochur, but if someone is currently married, a faster way would be to observe talmidei chachamim interacting with their wives, and other way around… Even bochrim, like Akiva and haverav would prefer learning actual practice, going so far as hiding under rebbe’s bed… Torah hi velilmod ani tzarich
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon, you seem to see the world only as they relate to Jews. This seems to contradict r Miller quote above: if you choose to be friends with reshoyim if they don’t hurt us personally, you may hvsh invite them to hurt us and only then learn the lesson. Abraham Heschel, while still in Nazi Germany, wrote a “historical” discussion that Sephardim were kicked out of Spain for a reason. Otherwise, they’d join Spaniards in their brutality in America’s – and it is better to be a victim than a perpetrator, sending a message to the German Jews who were upset that Nazis weren’t letting them be patriotic Germans
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantBiden administration made everyone wiser admitting an error of electing him, and made the whole country agree in their opinion about him. He is almost as good as Putin as unifier. The latter unified Ukraine against him.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWe finally found something in/with Common: yidden are responsible for their own actions.
As to China, they didn’t hurt Jews much because mir yeshiva escaped before Mao consolidated power. R Avigdor Miller days that one should learn lessons when he reads about events far away (his example is Vietnam). If one doesn’t learn, Hashem brings problems closer and closer. And the most foolish ones learn only when the problem affects them (one might have thought this was written during COVID, but I digress)
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantZionists indeed started this conspiracy more than a hundred years ago. Hashem turned it around and used the Zionist army to protect Charedim, their roads to lead to yeshivas, their electricity to enable learning at night, their taxes to pay for childcare, their buses to go to Meron, their airlines to fly to EY. Those grateful Charedim who took advantage of these chasdei Hashem, live great. Now, those who will take the jobs that Hashem made Zionists provide for Charedim, will be able to afford life in yir hakoidesh.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAnd then Gini found a leftist friend to sneak this to a leftist publication. If she were so skills, the congress would have kept Trump president on the 6th
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantErev Pesach
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIf men were responsible for pesach and women for sukkos, they would start on the same day.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantMy joke above didn’t go well in my household. Now, I need to explain who this Miranda is, and how I got to know her. Unfortunately, 1st and 5th parts of bill of rights were incorporated down to states and towns, but not households, so men generally don’t enjoy those rights.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantOf course the husband has rights that the wife doesn’t – Miranda rights.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYou guys are arguing about a singular decision. Maybe there are different steps here? For example, it is possible to advocate against federal support and encouragement, at the same time not criminalizing individual actions. Proper social policies could significantly reduce unwanted outcomes without having government policing everything
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThere were communist alternatives to Stalin. Some were possibly even worse, like Trotsky, others might have been better. Some claim that modern European socialists are the mild followers of Marx. A minimal test would be if their group was consistently against Soviet style of Marxism. Many of those mild socialists supported USSR in some form.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantThe episode with the semicha was in part due to ravs humility never obtaining credentials and also, I think when he was running from Soviet Russia to Lita in the 1920s, so pikuach nefesh overrode humility. He actually paskened that it was pikuach nefesh when he asked his s-i-l to go get the vids on Friday, and sil replied yes, I’ll take first train on Sunday, but rav said: no. Please go on shabbos. Incidentally, he later regretted the decision to save his life at the expense of abandoning others, as all rabbis left and remaining Jews had no support. This is relevant to some other discussions about how to relate to nonreligious Jews especially from USSR
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, thanks for the tip to not go low on gas. I presume you have a good mesorah for this. Are you sure this is still true in this century with new tech? I have this bad habit but most of my cars fall apart way before having engine problems
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon, I don’t think we can resolve the case based on a phone video. What is clear that a number of Jews there are unruly. Whether Lufthansa was able to separate kosher ones or whether they tried, I don’t know. I am just not in the habit of throwing accusations around just because we don’t like the country. If you want to boycott someone, just focus on current perpetrators: Russia, China, Cuba
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCall grandkids!? You raised them well if they answer.. How about Whatsapping them .. when I encourage youngsters to call someone they say it’s a weird thing to do
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvram, thanks, I tried family link also. I don’t fully recall, and wouldn’t repeat, how the kids were dealing with it.. if you are going this route, I had more successes with surveillance. If you don’t force them into dark approaches first, you can observe network traffic and see where they are going without causing any rifts. Knowing whether you have a problem is a big thing. Sometimes you can address the issue by talking with the kid without revealing your sources, or blacklisting.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantOhio primary had one anti trumpian candidate and it got 25% 0f the vote. So, anti Trumpers here can only hope that Trump decides not to run. I suggest offering him some good business in Saudi Arabia and a Nobel for the accords now so that he feels he doesn’t need to run.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, I am repeating: with people like Bibi, you can’t discuss their shortcomings without acknowledging their zechuyot. This would also apply to Sharon, Begin, Rabin. Ben Gurion, etc
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira brings a great point hashkafilly if not halachically: people who keep Torah are responsible for the rest of the yidden. As r Salanter said: someone not learning Torah properly in vilna leads to a professor in Paris to do aveiros….
This applies especially to Israelis who are so close to datiim, but often not really relating
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, I am not sure how all these technology advances change the issue. If you facilitate improper information reach their audience, it may be a problem. Possibly, if you’re a platform for business, you can say that rov of your clients are kosher.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantCommon, thanks, I was not aware about what share is for trauma. Still caution is required in professions where lucrative deals are questionable morally. Will you be satisfied to work for the trauma hospital, when your colleagues earn easy money the other way. Similarly, say, in jo s where you can get profitable business representing Russian or Chinese clients. Or construction where you may not even be able to compete without employing illegals. I am not a bokeh in these professions, just highlighting issues in choosing professions.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantn0 > All I’m suggesting is not allowing oil futures to be traded publicly.
that’s an interesting question … Nixon tried price controls .. There are Jewish sources for not increasing prices during emergencies on necessities, and arguably gas is one for people who need to get somewhere important.
On the other hand, price sends a signal. Germany just announced that “in solidarity with UKR” they’ll reduce water temperature in their pool by 2 deg (C). I guess, 3 would be too much of a sacrifice, but 2 might reduce ammunition RUS can make and save some lives. High price will naturally send the same signal and make people use less of it. Also, you don’t want to start a black market of people smuggling subsidized oil into other places.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSyag > where do you see me saying they buy in bulk?
Deduction? It was mentioned $70 gas, so presumably a full tank, not a couple of gallons, but I did not check the prices for a couple of days (feels like Weimar)
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon, did you lose your glasses? It is a matter of fact, not the opinion, that about 50% of these Yidden are maskless or half-maskless. Not sure, how you define “rov” here – by gavras who do not wear it properly or be heftzas that are not covering noses. And these are videos _they_ chose to post … presumably after being told multiple times to wear masks.
I think this is just a classical Chasidic-Yakkish divide over warmness v order replayed…. Just fly Malev or Al Italia, if it still exists somewhere.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantChofetz Chaim encountered someone selling newspaper (a blog advertiser in modern times). He asked how is parnosah, turns out it was so-so. So, Ch Ch suggested that his friend can offer a beter job. Which one? A friend is a priest and he needs someone to once in a while to ring the church bell …
The Jew was shocked by the offer, but Ch Ch explained that this is still more honorable than selling newspapers.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantis plastic surgery (and skydiver for that matter) a frum profession? or even “mutar”?
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantcommon, I hear you, but in that case the doctor did not give hard time to the “frummer” youngele, but turned out to be even “frummer” just in the closet (literally).
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantWolf +1
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol, similar comment – the gentleman has lots of zehuyot both in the Army and in world politics. I can’t say whether he borrowed some cigars or betrayed coalition partners, this is one big mess there, but you sound like you simply disagree with him and ready to throw any argument at it. We somehow find this permissible in the American context between a real estate developer and a senator from Du Pont. If if that is not asur, I don’t think we should use same brush with Israeli issues and people.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant@Marxist > What does quoting Marx have to do with being knowledgeable about Torah?
Sorry, did not mean you personally. I meant to say that some old-time anti-Torah Jews had an ideology, such as Marxism, current ones usually do not and not oppose anything. You are right, even someone who knows Das Kapital b’alpe can still be an ignoramus, but at least, he was a dangerous ignoramus.
This “yeridas ha doros” is one of the interpretations of arba banim in Hagada: first generation – chacham, second – rebels, third – not sure why his father rebeled, fourth – has nothing to talk about, fifth – disappears unless we put him back into first. Note that this 4th+ generations are far removed from the original rebels.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantGadol > and are now instilling the same values and practices in their own kids.
I think that is the point. Again, there are things that need to be done in many cases, such as keeping computers, not phones, and in the open, etc, but it seems that kids seeing parents using computers for work, learning, good comms – even posting on CR! – is the most useful thing.
Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantAvira > You can text me on a regular phone number
Define “regular”. If you have a thingy with an attached cord going into the wall – you can’t text it at all. I mean you can text but I won’t get it.
(again, same kids found my old one and, despite their internet skills, could not figure out why there is a cord attached to something that is similar to a phone).
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