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Marxist, chatGPT does not claim to solve our problems. It merely learns from the corpus of human writing and repeats nonsense similar to what an average human is spouting. It also might be biased towards the way you ask question in order to please you. Were you to ask the same question using a more lefty terms, chatGPT would have answered that service in Tzahal is a great way to meet eligible partners.

Hashem offered Torah to various goyim and they objected to various of 10 comm. Isn’t this a good moment when a nation wants to post all of them?!

DaMoshe, I also perused the book and do not remember anti-Israeli stance. This is motzi shem ra, even if the poster meant it as a praise.

Look at state gov site for Passport Agencies. You schedule an appointment and go there, I think, with tickets that are in 1 or 2 weeks.

P v NP is a misleading scholastic question. It talks about “worst case” performance -that is, a performance on a hardest problem of certain type. So, a traveling salesman problem (finding a shortest path through a set of towns) is NP-complete, does it mean that all of us are unable to plan our day with 3 stops? of course not. A relevant theory is “average case” performance – how long does it take to solve an average problem of this type. Many modern algorithms, including AI/machine learning, are built in this way (some explicitly, most implicitly) – solving typical problems fast, even if theoretical hardest problems are not solvable.

Avira > the state being a harbinger for moshiach is baseless, but the fact that jews returned(not all of whom came b’issur – only declaring the state was totally assur) could be kibutz golios

Great, this is a meaningful step forward! So, if we see Yidden coming to EY is positive, what next should have happened? (unrealistic ideas above about charedi medinah notwithstanding).

I don’t think Yidden in EY at the time were less religious than pre-war Poland and USA, with majority non-religious. Polish state tried to establish something along the lines of historical Vaad arba artzos, and Chofetz Chaim was writing forceful letters to Polish minister, explaining that such arrangement will make Rabbis subject to control of non-religious Jewish leaders, and he did not want it, and tried to make a case that Polish medina should not want it either.

So, what kind of entity could Jews have realistically? Ask British to stay or submit to Jordan and ask them to maintain separation between charedim and chiloim? I think the system that emerged with charedi community in many aspects separate from the state is close to what could be done realistically. So, as long as there is ability to maintain religious institutions, we should have at least same respect to Medinah that Chofetz Chaim had for Medina Polin.

Neville, some of this “public knowledge” possibly came as leaks from, or in opposition to, this investigation. Some of that was clearly new to some of the participants. Report mention one FBI agent, leaving to cry and returning to say that the info Durham showed him was withheld from him and this affected his investigation.

There is also clear information about multiple named participants in the same meeting “forgetting” what was said at the meeting – not enough to prosecute, but enough to form opinion about them. Some are still in senior positions in the government.

@Neville, ^, Ohr Sameach, Avira, and I all seem to agree that there is no problem at the Balfour time. Ohr Sameach of course is the most significant here, not just because he is the gadol between us, but he wrote that at the time.

Now, Avira nd you seem to make a point of “making a state”. I understand your emotions here – this is a major event that you do not like. But this is a very Zionist view, pardon me. Why is a “state” shaich to anything in halocho?

Do the Oaths say anything about a state? or about establishing malchus? having elections? building a Knesset building? Waiving a flag? I think not, they are only talking about arriving to EY. Please correct me if I missed the fine print.

Gadol, maybe the father removed the seforim for the tznius of his son?! As one is allowed to hide knowledge of a maseches – a sefer with his son’s name will give away what the son learnt?!

jackk > worthless investigation

did you actually read it and feel everything mentioned there is OK? FNI agents considering an investigative action against a political candidate and one warning another – she is going to be a President and she will not forget?

Neville > From his comment, it sounded like he meant the fact that Jews even lived there (pre-state) made the Oaths not apply and therefore matir’d conquering the land.

Not just some Jews lived there. I think we can’t easily use small old Yishuv as a justification for further expansion, but at some point pre-1948, there were masses of Jews in possession of Tel Aviv and multiple kibutzim without, seemingly, any violation of Oaths. I am not sure whether you disagree with this premise, or you don’t agree with using it as a starting point (Avira’s Tanna Kamma seems to disagree on the first point, but agrees on the second).

Maybe technology in general, and AI as a final point, are the ways zman Moschiach comes “naturally”. Given productivity increase in last 200 years, most people do not need to work any more and can spend their time either learning and doing mitzvos, or drinking, smoking, and killing other people.
Maybe people are complaining more because they have more time on their hands and they do not know what to do with it.

you have a point, but I wonder whether this is a healthy backlash.

Original setup was that states had jurisdiction on most things, and feds insured interoperability via commerce clause. Later, feds abused commerce clause to regulate almost everything, and states lost most of their power – and that is why everyone is obsessed with Presidential elections. a President is supposed to be someone who faithfully executes the laws … Chief Shoter, not a big deal

so, npw, states are finding how to use the legal system to get some of their power back.

> What, then, was their reason?

I am pointing out a historical loophole in the Oaths that Yidden exploited (and maybe Hashem provided) – immigration happened under Ottoman Empire and British mandate, in a large part with their agreement. So, at that point, Arab opinions were not relevant – they were subjects. So, after Brits left, Jews and Arabs were left to their devices. At this point, Oaths are not shayach as Jews are already in the land. Would you agree to that? So, whatever wisdom was in the decisions after that, this is not about oaths. Similarly, the next waves were of refugees from Europe/Arab countries/USSR, not political movements to conquer anything (and as there was a state already, oaths may not be relevant to new arrivals anyway).

The question is how AI uses the data. In theory, machine learning (actual current technology behind AI marketing name) is capable of generalization and coming up with new solutions not envisioned by the developers and their data. In practice, most existing applications collect so much data that when confronted with new data point, they simply need to find a closest data point in the data they collected. Not much generalization, just old-fashioned database lookup. See, for example, a self-driving car that gets further away in the rear mirror. It seems that they are still not able to collect enough data to resolve all possible situations.

Nechemiah – do you mean Persian king? Note the difference as at the moment Persians are somewhat better than Assyrians towards Jews

space race was not completely political. Capability to send satellites is equivalent to the capability to send nuclear intercontinental missiles from which there was no protection at the time. So, that lead to MAD … and to explosion of Americans learning maths. Growth was so fast that there were no qualified teachers, of course, so US ended up with generational plague of teachers who hate maths teaching next generation to hate it.

We have in Sotah ~42 that if a person has too much zevel coming out, he needs to check the status of his health and fix himself before things became worse. Similarly, B Metztya 107 talks about people being responsible for effects of cold and heat and how a healthy breakfast (bread, salt, water) has so many physical and spiritual benefits. At the same time, Sotah also says that Hashem protection is limited to people who do not have aveiros…

So, you need to read BB 116 in the context of these other sources. My suggestion is that one first checks his health, then checks his aveiros, and only then go to the chochom (not simply a talmid of one). Just for the simple reason that we, R’L, have more sick people than Chachomim, so the latter need some time to learn. Do you have a better explanation that covers all sources, not just one?

R Elchonon’s statement seem to contradict all of the sources, whether requiring refuah or going to the chochom. also, requires an explanation.

Ze truth> Reverence for words – an awareness of the wonder of words, of the mystery of words – is an essential prerequisite for prayer. By the word of G-d the world was created

Well said! Is there a source for these wise words?

R Bruan has some interesting expressions:
I am not going to give an answer whether one should vaccinate or not, but I want to discuss the principle of Torah … medical questions are to be determined by doctors. You are not the barometer of truth. This principle that people should debate whether we should vaccinate or not vaccinate, and everybody has an opinion on the matter, is anathema to Torah.

“You are not entitled to your opinion when it comes to medical matters!

“You are not entitled to your opinion when it comes to Torah matters!

“A, It’s a waste of time and bittul Torah. And B, the Rebbe wrote to people many times when it came to medical matters, they should not research this matter. They should listen to the doctors and not involve their minds in their condition other than to listen to doctors’ instructions,” Rabbi Braun said.

That was years ago, before the “information superhighway,” Rabbi Braun said. Nowadays, with the “social media explosion, everybody has an opinion which they spread around all over.”

“Every one of these WhatsApp groups should be closed completely – they have nothing to contribute to this discussion,” he said. “You can’t even answer a question about v’sen tal umatar, you are going to decide about pikuach nefesh issues – issues of life and death?!”

And someone will say, I will find a doctor who agrees with my opinion…I will shop out for a rov who agrees with my opinion,” he said.
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“Conspiracy theories about doctors and Rabbonim is apikorsis,” he said. “You are not an expert – you are not the one to decide if there should be an eruv or not, or to vaccinate or not.”

“Furthermore, you have no ownership of your body to begin with. That’s another principle of Torah – nobody has ownership of their body. This whole concept of liberalism where I get to decide what I feel is right and you are taking away my rights to make choices for myself, is also not according to the Torah,” he said. “You are not to decide whether to get vaccinated or not – that is a flawed way of thinking.”

RBZS, see here https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/308078/haircuts-on-the-night-of-lag-baomer.html
Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l, however, argued against the Mshna Brurah’s position and allowed for weddings on the night of Lag BaOmer even if it did not fall out on a Thursday night. He writes that one can rely upon the lenient view – especially for one who has not yet fulfilled the Mitzvah of Pru uRvu.

I see commonality here on several subjects – do we look at a treif object (feminism/socialism/zionism) and see the worst manifestation of it, or do we try to see possible positive elements that might be motivating some of the adherents. This is nothing new – avoda zara started as an attempt to show respect to Hashem’s messengers; some religions started/ or became popular as misguided version of Jewish religion…

I think the hiluk is in timing: when Inquisition was chasing us it was not the time to ponder their Jewish roots; when commies were sending Yidden to gulag and closing schools it was not the time to discuss with them the betterment of the world … But, as I understand Lubavicher Rebbe quoted here, one can look at person’s motivations and try to find and strengthen the right things. As one (non-L, yeshivish) Rav told me, he was sometimes asked by non-religious people whether he is a “Zionist”. He did not want to sully the good part of it, so he responds: yes, as in “hamehazir shhinaso l’tzion”.

N0, I think you are right. Modernity is plagued by ideologies, with people creating fake theories to justify what they are doing and both Z and our esteemed poster are doing a similar thing. It is not a surprise at all, in this context, that people bitterly opposing each other, have similar features. Nazis Y’Sh rose as opposition to communists Y’Sh but created a very similar movement.

DaMoshe, amazing story! Thanks for sharing.

For those who want to take their words back, know that the eye is watching and recording it at archive org periodically. This is not taking into account NSA and FBI … But I think this is why we cherish this anonymous forum that people can post things they are thinking about and can get honest (and more) feedback from fellow posters. On many issues, you would be reluctant to propose an idea to your IRL friends and they may be reluctant to point the contrarian views to you. So, if you end up realizing that you said something that was not accepted, you may change your opinion, or you may change how you argue your case.