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I was called a Harry in 10th grade, because I was MORE frum than the rest of the class
Ppl make fun of those who are not culturally the same as them.
This has NOTHING to do with religion, but rather cultural association.
They make fun of chassidim, and they use even more derogatory terms to refer to those more frum than them.
Do you need a place to live?
Did something just happen to you?People who live in other people’s houses/apartments think they are above morality. They don’t have to pay to live in someone’s house. Gimme ur house and don’t ask for payment!!
Not paying rent is STEALING and NOT moral. At all. Sorry.
Move to north Korea or Cuba. Everyone is equal there. No one has anything.Many chasidishe minhagim come from sfardim
Most “chasidim” today ARE sfardi.
Think Hungary, Romania etc…
Mostly sfardim from the ottoman empire.(Remember R Portugal from Skulen? Remember the Aruch hashulchan from Barbashti? Remember R katzelenbogen? Sat, Katz, karmen, all are sfardim)
While I agree that one should not stray from your heritage, the fact is that most acharonim were ashkenaz, mainly because the sfardim moved to Europe and became ashkenaz.
Also half the sfardi rishonim, specifically those after 1200 onward, were influenced by ashkenaz. Ramban, ritva, rashba , ran etc..
Once the Europeans started having more influence in Spain, the sfardim pretty much became European, eventually assimilating into European jews over the centuries by the1800s.This also explains the heavy sfardi influence in Europe. Many of the munhagei ashkenaz from the Rema are not kept today, and instead we follow sfardi shitos.
Sorry, none2.0, I will NOT CONFORM to your version of “morality”. People have different versions of morality. What’s right and what’s wrong. You either follow an established version (such as the Torah’s, which u probably don’t actually accept, if u wud study it), or America’s, or u make up ur own, like the Wild West
Me
What was ur original name?
“the biblical principles of reality are coming back to life. No more lies. Only truth”
Huh?? In the world u talking about man??You are __ conforming__ to this ridiculous idealogy, that doesn’t have any basis in history. Was invented in the middle ages.
What exactly is “the Bible” and who made those texts in it?
You are the victim of CONFORMITY!! Just a different religion, invented in the dark ages, instead of the original Law of Israel – what we call mishna, talmud (all israel, not just for prushim, like the Bible is)
But u don’t wanna admit it
I’m very happy that I’m the only one that none2.0 wasn’t able to respond to. Thank you!
I’ll take the medal. My point has been proven true.
There is no “written” Torah, and its certainly not what you call “tanach”.
To AAQ, I’m referring to the idea that all these books are one entity, like this none2.0 thinks.
The Law of Israel is the Torah (as taught and studied – mishna, talmud – by generations of all Israel – not limited to a particular sect), not a set of books that were canonized, or sanctified by the Prushim. Even in Yavne there were deciding which books to make holy. The study of Torah, i.e theTalmud, on the other hand, was universal and existed way before the “tanach”.None2.0 thinks he’s smart, but he’s clearly ignorant of historical reality and the fact he thinks the “writtenTorah” is divine, proves it. There is no “written Torah”. That’s sectarian. Only the Law, as taught and studied. Over 80% of today’s Talmud was universal among all Israeli groups (including tzedokim and Kuthim/Shomronim). Every time they argued with the Prushim, it is recorded. Most of the time, they agreed.
In fact, there are times when chazal paskened like the Tzedokim, and i can prove it. This is Torah. Not the “Bible”.I actually agree with alot of what “none2.0” says (and i WISH there would be a thread like this about me).
But somethings make no sense and demonstrate __conformity__ to ridiculous, yet weirdly common (in the last 2 millennia) ideas. Mainly, the concept that something quoted in chazal is a “human” idea, but quoting the mythical “Bible” is somehow “the word of god”. Nothing could be dumber. Literally.
The Prushim created the concept of “kisvay hakodeah” and “ruach hakodesh”; the Tzedokim ONLY taught and studied the Laws of the Torah (in other words, “Mishna Torah” and “Talmud Torah”), and would agree with 80% of chazal today. The “Bible”, on the other hand, was non existent. The first jewish “Tanach” was published around 800 CE
Hey @SQUARE_ROOT
what about me??
How come i don’t qualify as Kanoi??
Please add me to the list. Thank you!!
We should be asking more important questions:
Why isn’t the state of Israel fighting for Torah, as commanded?
חזקו ואמצו אל תערצו מפניהם
Hmmm
How is it different from those today who refuse to join Hamas or PIJ to fight for the land??
Pure natural sweetener only!!
Honey!!!!!
Maple syrup
Or fruits
Aha
THIS is gadlus!!@none2.0
You yourself started a thread quoting “the Bible” about man created in gods image etc….. whatever ….Everything you just said should be thrown back on that thread.
The jewish restoration in Israel also disproves Christianity and their Bible, which is why modern evangelicals have re-invented their religion, in order to reconcile it with modern times.
There are so many problems with this post
אבל אין להאריך כאן
אין כאן מקומוTo build the bes hamidash and establish malchus bes David melech yisrael and the Torah in Yerushalayim, yehuda and possibly all of eretz Yisrael.
Hadrian (starting 58 years after churban) originally supported this idea, as it would get the annoying rebellious jews out of the diaspora, where they were causing major trouble. Just 20 years earlier, in the Kitos war (Andreas Lukas was Moshiach then for Egyptian jews), the jews killed most of the gentiles in Egypt, Libya – called Cyrene – and Cyprus, in response to anti Jewish actions etc… They failed dismally (like most Messianic jewish rebellions – except the Macabees and the modern zionists), and were almost entirely annihilated (the rest sold as slaves).
Hadrian sent his relative, Aquilas, to help the jews come back and rebuild. Long story short, he became a Ger and explained the Torah in Greek.
Bar Kochba was Moshiach and rebuilt the third bes hamikdash in Yerushalayim. It stood for 2.5 years, after which Hadrian destroyed it (65 after churban), causing Him to flee to Betar, where they were eventually mostly annihilated (the rest sold as slaves – mainly to Europe)
What caused Hadrian to change his mind? Good question!
כיון שמת אדם נעשה חפשי מן המצות
The absolute foolishness displayed by people like “keith” is shocking.
It’s the PRECISE OPPOSITE of the truth!!When the gentiles see orthodox jews attacking zionism, it tells them NOT to kill jews, since we are not zionist.
They want to kill all zionists regardless. Question is if they will kill all jews too. To that, NK tells them NO!!You are safe in NYC because and ONLY because of NK. Go thank Yisrael David Weiss that you can live in America safely.
If not for NK, not a jew in the world would be safe!!
NK helps the global jewish community ALOT on social media and YouTube.
If not for NK, there wouldn’t be a jew in the world that is safe.
They mitigate around 20% of the issues that the zionists cause.
Makes no sense what your saying !!
The reason why we don’t thank hashem for Israel’s success is PRECISELY BECAUSE we are anti zionist.
What you’re saying is extremely zionist. Why would we give gratitude to hashem if we are anti zionist????
Such backwards, opposite thinking. This whole thread is based on a TOTALLY corrupted understanding of anti zionism.
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Post it. Ya!@philosopher
You clearly missed the jokeBut, the point is, he shouldn’t be publicizing this
Gemara is Iyun.
Mishna is Bekius.Yes, they should know Mshna and Gemara
Bavli, yerushlmi, mechilta sifra sifri tosefta And Dead sea talmud library.
That’s what yeshiva is for.
If you have question, you can look st Rishonim….
It’s like asking why a button down colored shirt is different than a white shirt (even a white polo shirt).
Society, ANY society, automatically labels people based on externals.
And, believe it or not, you label YOURSELF based on externals.The way you dress, look, phone shape etc…. has an automatic effect on the “class” that people (and, more importantly, YOU) view you.
Once you are a “smartphone” person, you start associating with, and acting like, that “type” of person.
Same thing with clothing. Etc….
I’ve seen this fist hand and it’s a FACT!
Fellow IRS agent here.
Thanks for letting me know of your dillemas.I will let my boss and colleagues know about this issue and we’ll make sure to solve it quickly, by adding extra audits and checks on Israeli American tax returns.
Totally different type of “chassidim”
Satmar is not chasidus. It’s about preserving the old culture.
No shaychus to chabad or breslov “chasidus”.Same word. Different context
What we are saying is that we are not counting the years from the start of their religion, but rather from the Common Era, the accepted year of counting in modern times.
It is used by secularism as well, so it is just a socially accepted year, hence “Common Era”, of the commonly accepted time.
Not connected to religion anymore.
Agav, the years were arbitrarily chosen in 523 CE for one reason: because it was 70 years before the Churban Bes Hamikdash.
That’s accurate.The birth of their god was not then anyway.
They said that because it was 70 years before the Churban.So, it’s actually a Jewish calendar, based on the Churban.
But I get your point, nonetheless.I was gonna respond with an anti zionist attack, but when I saw that your 2 sons are involved, I realized it’s better to refrain.
Shomer Yisrael should protect them.
It’s hilarious when the same people who are against protests of smartphones, are the same ones who wouldn’t let a kid, or teacher, come to school without vaccines and immunizations.
Working people don’t NEED birchas Kohanim or any Tefillah at all.
They are Yotze with the Tzibbur, while they are at work.But we do need to keep Shabbos.
And since the Minhag among non-chassidim is to keep Shabbos from when the Sun goes under the horizon (an opinion that has NO basis in Torah or Chazal, and is actually quite laughable when seeing how Chazal argued intensely about when Bein haShmashos starts, clearly NOT as simple as when the sun goes under the horizon – the official Ashkenazi minhag has always been a later shkiyah, and even Bet Yosef, the leading sfardi posek, held that way as well. But the Sfardi minhag is to follow the first shkiyah),
And most frum people live in places when sundown is at 430 nowadays.
This is a BIG problem. And there are not many options to resolve it OTHER than abolishing standard time.THE AGUDAH, AND ASKANIM, SHOULD BE PROMOTING THE ABOLISHMENT OF STANDARD TIME.
UNTIL THEN, THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE ONE PENNY FROM ME!!What about men?
Should be about the same….If anything, the question should be the opposite….
As jews, we’re supposed to follow the Torah. Nothing more, nothing less.
All this other stuff is a new religion. Like other new religions.
The whole purpose of the stripes is to remind us of the Tcheles (see Trumas Hadeshen)
So it should be blue. Why it was historically black is the better question. Perhaps it was easier in olden times
Kabalah is Lhepech from Torah. Granted, it’s old. Very old. But also very dangerous, as can be seen from looking around the world. Most of the enemies of the Jews, over the last 2000 years (Christianiaty and Islam), come from Kabalah.
Having said that, it’s also important to remember that we need Kabalah, Ruach haKodesh, Tchias haMesim etc… (otherwise known as Prishus and Chasidus – see braisa of R Pinchas ben Yair), to survive the long and confusing Galus.
But always remember: the Torah is the #1 priority!
Don’t fall into the trap of Ruchnius!
The Bris is the Torah. Studying the Law (mishna and gemarah) and keeping it (lishmor vlaasos) .
And that is our Tzidkus.אין בן דוד בא עד שיכלו כל הנשמות שבגוף שנאמר: רוח מלפני יעטוף ונשמות אני עשיתי
This directly contradicts the later concept of gilgulim, if understood literally.
Chazal clearly held (according to this pasuk) that each person is a new Neshama that needs to come before Ben David.
One of the purposes of having so many children, is to bring down all the remaining Neshamos.
Any gilgulim at all, if understood literally, would be against Chazal (besides for having no basis in Torah or Chazal)Some people try to reconcile this by interpreting gilgulim as being a “bechina”, some connection, but not literal. (like a candle being lit by another flame)
Where can I find the picture please
So the zionists who scream and yell at those who disagree or dont support zionism, thrive on conflict (the holocaust and Oct 7), and curse NK, we are supposed to not hate them,
@smerel ?What about NK?
Do they deserve “Ahavat Chinam”?Only secular Israelis deserve that, right?
We can all hate and curse (an actual issur doraysa) NK, because Ahavat Chinam doesn’t apply to them, right?
NK is not a chillul hashem.
If anything, they are defending the Torah, and making a kiddush hashem.The Torah says if we don’t follow the Law, we will be exiled and not redeemed. Yet we see the secular state of Israel flourishing and prospering, like never before.
אין חילול ה’ יותר מהצלחת מדינת ישראל
This should NOT be considered controversial.
ALL Rabbis were anti Israel originally and the Torah curses the state of Israel and threatens destruction.“The land will SPIT you out”
People think the holocaust was a chilul hashem .
Maybe. That’s debatable.That the state of Israel is so successful is one of the biggest chillulei hashem in history, should not be debatable
What I’m saying is that the Torah is the #1 priority and therefore, Nach, Agadah etc need to interpreted in a way that fits in to it.
That’s basic Torah Judaism.
Really not a big deal and definitely not controversial.Torah means Halacha.
הברכה והקללה, החיים והמות, נתתי לפניך.
The Bris is the Law. The Bracha and Chaim is if we follow the Mitzvos, the klala and Maves is if we don’t.
ובבחרת בחייםWhat I said was that 80% of Gemorah is a discussion about Halacha אשר אנכי מצוך היום
It’s very concerning that not one person here properly understood anything I said.
Menachem,
I was not kofer in Torah shebaal peh. That is pure manipulation.
If anything, I would be a kofer in “shebiKsav”
The whole Torah is Al peh. Both Torah, and Limud.
Talmud Torah, means “studying the Law”.
The Law is the Bris. 80% of Gemorah is Torah. Period. No games.
That is the Torah. Not Nach, Agadah, Kabalah etc….
ושננתם לבניך is Mishna. ולמדתם אותם את בניכם is Talmud.
The posuk does NOT say, read this book.
It says, study the Law, בפיך ובלבבך לעשותוI understand that Chazal held Moshiach needs to be from David, but the Chashmonaim disagreed. Yochanan Kohen Gadol, was Moshiach. HaKohen haMoshiach.
That’s why he conquered Edom and destroyed Har Grizim, to unite Israel, in Yerushalayim. He looked at himself as Moshiach.Anyway, (ignoring that part), my point remains the same.
The identity of the pizza delivery man is not important.
As long as the pizza is delivered.
If someone brings chopped liver, and claims he’s the pizza guy, he’s not, until he brings the pizza. Period.I’m not specifically attacking Chabad.
If Chazal meant that a Chazer would be Mutar as is; they are wrong. And we MUST interpret it that the SCIENCE would change, not the Law.
(that it would raise cud, “chazer” means “return”, like “Maaleh Gera”, thats why it’s specifically the Pig)Just like Chananya Ben Chizkiya Ben Garon, RE – INTERPRETED Yechezkel 44 to not contradict Toras Kohanim (sefer Vayikra).
Because, otherwise, that book would have been removed from Kisvay haQodesh.Same with Koheles, Shir haShirim and others.
Many Shitos took these books out (last perek in Yadayim).Only by interpreting it in a way that doesn’t contradict the Torah, can we accept it.
Same with Rus (yibum to a cousin??)Some books were removed entirely, because they couldn’t be interpreted in line with Torah at all (like Shoshana, Chanoch, Yovlos etc….)
Why dont you ask that question about the Arabs?
It’s the same thing!The reason Charedim don’t join the army has NOTHING to do with learning. Even those who are NOT learning do NOT join the IDF.
It is because they do NOT support the state of Israel. Period. Just like the Arabs.
The learning is an excuse. Everyone knows that.Not everyone jewish (even those who live in israel!), need to support the zionist military.
They believe the jews would be better off without zionist harassment and antagonism.
Having said that, I do feel pain for your zionist family members who are suffering. It really breaks my heart that so many people in that region are suffering so much.
Saying Chazer will be mutar is against the Torah. Period. I don’t CARE who said that. Including Chazal. Chazal, like the Neviim and Ksuvim, have NO right to contradict the Torah.
This is why Ruchniyus is so evil and why the Torah WARNS us against the SEDUCTION of Ruchniyus, and how we should only focus on Gashmiyus.To defend the Rabbi who claimed that Chazer will be mutar, the ONLY explanation could be that it will “Rise up” its cud,
מעלה גרה
, מלשון חזרה,Ruchniyus was invented during Bayis Sheni to PROTECT the Torah, even when the government isn’t enforcing it, like a wrapper protects food, until the time to eat it. Not to replace the food!
Using Ruchniyus (Nach, Agada, kabalah etc…) to REPLACE or CONTRADICT the Torah, defeats the WHOLE purpose of why it was adapted to begin with.
Call me an Apikorus. I’m proud to defend כבוד התורה
Oh. And by the way. The whole PURPOSE of Mashiach is to RESTORE the Torah (דברים פרק ל)
Who cares who Mashiach is, or even if there is a specific person??
It’s like arguing who will be the President of the USA in 2032. As long as he / she upholds freedoms / American values, right?
Who cares who / if Mashiach is? As long as he / she RESTORES the Torah and Israel כדת וכדין.
הנסתרות לה’ אלוקינו והנגלות לנו ולבנינו עד עולם לעשות את כל דברי התורה הזאת