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AZ – However good your intentions are; they are a total waste because no one’s following the Kol Korei. When the RY 70 start to practice what they advocate, then you might have a chance; otherwise, this Kol Korei has as much clout as the Chasana Takana Kol Korei
“You can’t investigate people on the spot”
Yes you can, but you don’t want to.
rivkib – “She hired a Yeshiva HS girl who comes in twice a week in the evening for 2 hours. She washes pots & pans, folds laundry, cleans/checks vegetables, and mops the kitchen floor. For a little money,”
Forget the age gap, this high school girl ain’t running to get married so quick.
Can someone tell me where these phony baloney statistics come from? I have ba”h seven daughters who have graduated and no school or organization has ever called to track or monitor their marriage status. I have also worked with statistics and numbers for just about my entire adult life and as I stated before, numbers can be manipulated to show just about anything. Oh, please spare me the tears this time.
How about Bais Yaakov’s getting honest with their girls?
Namely, instruct the girls that they can’t all have the kollel fellows that you’ve been brainwashing them about. Tell the girls not to waste their precious short lives waiting for the knight in shining amour to come knocking on the door. Besides, they’ve already been claimed by the Yichus, Rosh Yeshivish and Money families.
Advise the girls that there are terrific yerei shomaim and talmedei chachomim who are not currently in Yeshiva but who would make great husbands and providers; they learn before shachris, and on the way to work, and on their lunch break, and on their way home from work, and before and after ma’ariv.
Tell the girls that these shidduchim are very noble and something that they will be proud of.
It took years of brainwashing to get into this mess and it will take a while to readjust to the way it used to be.
There goes the Shidduch Crises!
“but was ne’enas”
Since the giver can investigate, he is not an oneis if he gives your money to a fraud.
estherh – “Dont make the beds leave them open for airing”
Can I do that with my socks too?
Since you can investigate, it is your responsibility to make sure the money is going to a halachic Tzdedaka.
Why should legitimate Oniyim and causes get short changed because someone is too lazy to do a chakira, an investigation, on every person who sticks out their hand? A Baal Tzedaka means that should not be hefkeirus in alloting funds; you are the Baal of the Tzedaka, with a cheshbon.
In my shul, those who are given the most, are collectors who approach the Rav first with shalom and and brief introduction. The Rav will usually put in a verbal plug for the cause or allow the collector to advocate.
What about collectors who come in teams to the home or close to Shabbos or with props?
Jothar – “The Shlah says that one should have a special white shirt for Shabbos.”
Where does he say that?
Jothar – “If you give tzedakah lishmah, you still get a cheilek the mitzvah for your ratzon hatov.”
What about if you make a b’racha lishma on a posul esrog; do you also still get a cheilek of the mitzvah for your ratzon hatov?
Ok, thanks. Please send it to Yeshiva World C/O Israel Chesed Fund. Be generous.
Hud; Mezonos Maven – Maybe you guys have limitless resources, but I don’t. I want my hard earned money going to legitimate Oniyim and Tzdakas.
tzippi, it doesn’t make a difference; if leadership signs on without conditions, then lead.
“giving everyone a dollar does very little”
If every frum home in Flatbush gave at least $1-$2 to collectors who come to the door, then these fellows, who mostly collect for themselves or to buy apartments for children, can rake in at least $50 an hour. Not bad.
Remember, money given to someone who is not a qualified halachic Oni is not considered Tzadaka.
Collectors who are not Oniyim have no shame, they have Azuse.
In all cases, unless I know the collector, I don’t permit them in the house; or write a check; or come to the door when it’s late and dark.
AZ – if the Roshei Yeshiva 70 were serious about the Kol Korei, they wouldn’t exclude themselves from it.
Statistics lie; anyone who works with numbers can manipulate data to suit anyone. You tell me what you want to see, and I’ll prove it with the numbers.
Ok, but the age thing is only one factor.
The issues which rescue37 and I raised are also factors.
We notice and are concerned about the girls so we think that there are more single girls than boys but the ratio is roughly 50-50; so for every married male there is a married female.
You can also look into the Mortality Rates and other sociological factors for answers.
cholentkugelkishke – The matches are there. The couples need to meet and marry; that is, if they are indeed interested in marriage and not just going through the motions.
Please note: If it’s as bad as you say; then it’s assur to davin or learn or talk in Torah on these buses. Same for subway trains.
I met Rav Dovid last night at a simcha and almost asked him for a comment to the CR, but then I felt that it was the wrong place for it; b”n another time. But if you read the hakdama, it says it all.
Shmeel – Dee rets Yeedish vee a goi.
Yiddish is on a higher plane then other languages, such as Chinese and English, but it is very evident from my posts that Yiddish is not halachic kadosh but rather a respected and exalted form of speech since it incorporates Jewish biblical, historical and cultural experience from the beginning of time.
aryeh3 – “do you follow R’ Moshe on any halachic matter?”
Incompetent, irrelevant, immaterial, and it’s no one’s business.
Question:
I live on the cul de sac (Dead End) street within the “Eruv” boundries. A few of the home owners use the Flatbush Eruv, other don’t. Because the area is enclosed on three sides, it was fairly easy to string a line from a home on side of the street to the other, and behold, we have an Eruv for the entire street.
Now, according to the “No Eruv in Flatbush/Brooklyn group”, is our Eruv muter if it was approved for meeting all other criteria for eruvin?
If the answer is yes, then why not make eruvin in Flatbush which would exclude the disputed areas?
I wish it were true. Below is the entire post:
Jothar
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So Rav Dovid Cohen wrote an entire book about Yiddish being a holy language, and never discusses sources or even if it’s a Mitzvah? A real poseik never takes anything for granted. He always looks at the sources. so I ask you, what are the sources? Hoisen?
I’m not denying that there are wonderful Yiddish phrases that revel a Jewish heart that formed the language. There are wonderful phrases in Aramaic and Hebrew too.
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Sam – “but who cares”
You seemed to care very much a few hours ago.
And what’s with you and Rav Dovid Cohen’s children?
Does Rav Dovid Cohen speak in Loshan Hakodesh to his children? Of course not.
My Rav speaks Yiddish in his home to his family and children. So what’s your point?
And it doesn’t speak well of anyone that belittles a sefer written by an Eesh Tzadik, a Talmud Chochem and Rav and Posek in our community from before the time most people in the CR were born.
From a previous post:
Jothar – “So Rav Dovid Cohen wrote an entire book about Yiddish being a holy language, and never discusses sources or even if it’s a Mitzvah? A real poseik never takes anything for granted. He always looks at the sources.”
I can’t believe you either Jothar, but I did respect you.
How do you have the CHUTZPA to question Rav Dovid Cohen as being a “real poseik”?
And you say “and never discusses sources “. Are you talking out of your bottom, or what? There must be about 500 items that Rav Dovid Cohen lists and EVERY one is researched and the MEKOR is shown.
…”or even if it’s a Mitzvah?”
Huh? Your complaining that you want to know if a phrase is a mitzva? Makes no sense.
There goes your ne’emanis out the window.
sammygol – “Yiddish – the holy language, is a very nice little booklet, meant to arouse Jews to the beauty of their esrtwhile mame loshon For one, it was written in English”
Are you nuts! I’m holding the sefer, “Hasafa Yiddish Hakdosha (Yiddish The Holy Language)” in my hand. The only thing in English is the address of the publisher and m’chaber. There goes your ne’emanis out the window.
“Not true by Yiddish”
I agree, certainly if you don’t understand Yiddish, it will do nothing for you. But then again, if Moshe Rabbenu was darshining in Lashon Kakodesh, it would do nothing for someone who didn’t understand it.
“Rav Dovid Cohen’s book was meant as aggada, not halacha.”
OK, I’ll take aggada.
Are you saying that Yiddish was holy when the vast majority of Jews spoke it but not today? I don’t think so.
And you can make choizik all you want; Yiddish in all its holiness will never be silly.
People thought Orthodoxy was dead in America and the same for the language of Yidden. Boruch Hashem for their miscalculations.
If you like to make projections, put your money on continued geometric expansion of the yeshivish and chasidish worlds and Yiddish as the/a spoken language of the majority of frum people in America.
The point that you’re also missing is that Lashome Hakodesh IS part of the Yiddish language, whereas, Lashome Hakodesh, is not part of the English language.
So I’m not saying that Yiddish and Lashon Hakodesh are the same kedusha, but being that Lashone Hakodesh IS part of the Yiddish language and being that Yiddish phrases and expressions (not English phrases and expressions) are rooted in Tanach, Medrish and Talmud; so Yiddish, as has been stated by those who are indeed holy, is on a higher level of kedusha than English.
I have heard the English language referred to by g’dolim as “speaking in Goyish”.
You still missing it.
sammygol – you miss the point. We’re talking about the language, not the speaker. Loshon Hakodesh is a holy language whether spoken by Yaakov, or Eisav; same with Yiddish.
“Point is: You can’t speak this language without incorporating holy idioms and words connoting all aspects of Yiddishkeit.”
I heard that yeshivos are starting to reject donations by contributors wearing colored shirts.
jphone – “Im sure you’ll have no problem walking into MTJ and getting a definitive answer regarding R’ Moshe psak.”
Don’t be so sure. If it was so easy to do, it would have been done already.
It’s at least comforting to note that both sides have qualified piskei halacha that are being relied upon. And hopefully, the machlocus is l’shem shamayim.
The hardest part is to make sure he has no addictions to: drugs; smoking; gambling; women. Many new wives find out about addictions after the wedding, and then its usually too late.
truthsharer – I think that was the Chofetz Chaim’s home in Radin and he was speaking to Rav Elchonon Wasserman.
Anyway, Sara was m’karev the women and Avraham the men. But while Avraham was a terrific host, Sara wasn’t interested in overdoing the hachnasas orchim thing.
There is no exemption clause for Rabbonim and Roshei Yeshiva in this Kol Koreh
The signers need to lead the community into the new era of shadchanus by having their sons marry older girls. What a way to show the community the seriousness of the issue!
Smart cookie and Mod80: Do you really see insulting comments?
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What to look out for while dating?
Look out for Joseph.
Cleans tzitzes? Who cleans tzitzes?
So be it.
Get with it man; Turkish is out, light weight is in.
Too thick is less than 140 count thread. It’s a mitzva min hamuvchar for b’nai torah to be attired in Brooks.
AZ – Where is the list of 70?
The last Lubavitcher Rebbe instructed his chasidem to have kapatas made exclusively of natural fibers.
aaryd621 – Right on. If you want to get married, just do it!