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Shabbos take out is pretty good there, great if you’re heading to Ste Agethe or Trout Lake, less then five minutes off the highway
I spoke to quite a few people who went to camp from 1960s- 1990s and the focus was to enable to children to escape the city not to get rich on yinnem chesben, one person told me the camp charged 650 dollars for 5 kids payable over the year [his father was delivery truck driver].
There were federation camps like Mogen Av and Sternberg that charged next to nothing, if you were borderline frum or dirt poor the Lubavitcher camps took you in at next to no cost. The administration consisted of survivors or children of survivors and hence totally different focus on the why they have the camp in the first place.“It’s lashon hara to share anything negative about anyone else. There’s also a general mitzvah to be happy and to stay positive and to not be negative, and also to be in control of all other negative emotions. So, ideally, how is a Jew supposed to express their negative feelings in a healthy way? Are we supposed to just let all anger, sadness, depression, all pent up? Or must everyone hire their own therapist? Seems abnormal to me; like there’s no room to exist in Judaism, to be human. The world has its problems but at least out there, people can freely discuss issues without the shame and taboo that exists in frum circles.”
@haleivi. or perhaps he is being sarcastic because he is sick and tired of this subject being discussed over and over and over and over again.
@bja, you did not answer the other comments.
PS I think more damage was done by fellow campers then by the 19–21-year-old counselors.@CTL, the taste and smell of the fish franks from the camp kitchen still makes me cringe, almost all the food of gvmt. surplus, you were allowed off premises once a week for a hike, and color war brought out hidden talents that no one knew that person had.
“I never understood how parents who keep a watchful chinuch eye on their children all year, hand them over to a 19 year old to be the mechanech for 2 months”
You have 19 yr old soldiers in IDF and USA with guns, you have 19 yr old dropping bombs, you have 19 yr olds driving cars, I am lot less afraid of entrusting my kids with a screened 19 yr old in a supervised setting then I am with any of the prior mentioned cases.@Rocky, our minor trip was always to the Orange County fair, where we would meet all the other camps, the memories the car stunt shows, demo derby, farm equipment, country music and rides will stay with me forever, I doubt the vaad of the camps today will ever permit this, yet we all grew up and raised yiddisher doros.
Another cost factor that is greater today in the chadishisher velt [with the exception of stoliner camp] is that until 20 years ago they hired bucherim as counselors, now they hire kollel yingerlate who they have to pay a decent salary and fringe, and frankly I think kollel ppl are much less devoted to the campers.
@Rocky, The high end camps like Kol Ree Nah always took fancy major trips like Florida in 1977, if anything the style of the major trips went down, I remember going to Lake George, Hershy, Niagara Falls, Washington DC etc. for major trips and this was not a high end camp, just your typical mainstream chasidisher camp in the mid to late 70s
you can always send the kid to the TROLL camp run by the TROLL Mosdos
Your direct quote
“Chanie315, you’re clearly not an educated person. Viruses are something that people can control, look at smallpox, measles and chickenpox. Smallpox has been eradicated, and the incidence of measles and chickenpox has been markedly curtailed. Small minded people, like you, who can’t see past the end of their own noses (“why can’t we go to Eretz Yisroel?”) never appreciate the seriousness of a public health emergency until it affects them directly.”
“@provaxx, this is rich, coming from someone who spewed venom to the people who did not take the covid shot
Letting the hilltop youth run amuck in the west bank makes things worse.
I think we need to end the affirmative action for the settlement, wasting so much resources to protect a few crazies living in in a scattered bunch of caravans is insane.
I forgot. I have two racoons and countless squirrels.
@ AAQ “rejection of Chabad by other groups is not based on recent events, it was there when L Rebbe Z’L was alive”
Totally not the case, when the rebbe sat shiva for his rebbetzin 100s of mainstream chasidisher rebbehs showed up to be menachem ovel.
With the previous Rebbes there was always interaction with Chabad, the problem is 85% of chabad is tzugerkimminer, not chasidim like Reb Mendel Futufas. reb Yoel Kahn etc.Almost all Chabad threads are posted by Chabad pushing an agenda or in like 3/4 of the posts its by trolls looking for attention.
Yankel berel, interesting all you posts are on this subject only
Sewer cleaner, you can do that pt and huge demand
Why give this Troll what he is craving?
Amul is gervain ah masseh
Ah key a vasser
Ah shepsel ah roiter
De bist a shoyterThe poetry the my seven year old grandson picked up in school
Give this subject a rest.
I have two skunks, 4 groundhogs, 3 rabbits, and 5 deer.
@YSL1234, what are Yunderlite? people who live over yonder and are lite?
PT corrections officer in a private jail, drive a yellow cab, work at call center.
@CA, yes rich people have a tendency to drone on and on.
I did not know drones were invented yet.
This tread is getting dumber and dumber by the minute
Get a life! Get a life! Get a life! Get a life! Get a life! Get a life! Get a life!
Other than that I have no opinion.@ YO”: “UJM: where did I say R Ovadia was Posek HaDor? Did I even mention his name?”
Its called a preemptive strike, because most of your post are about how bad Askinazim are and how great Sephardim are.@daas, no but BH tens of 1000s of chesed have been done since
Nice story but 15 yrs old
Old MacDonald had a farm
Ee i ee i o
And on his farm he had some cows
Ee i ee i oh
With a moo-moo here
And a moo-moo there
Here a moo, there a moo
Everywhere a moo-moo
Old MacDonald had a farm@GH, how about here is a wedding present, if your marriage does not work out I want a refund.
@YO, without a doubt.
You really need to get a life
@AAQ, I think you need to get a life.
@smiler613, what do you do for a living?
ahhhh, finally some sense in Israel, take these Hilltop Youth and lock them up until they know how to grow up.
i have 3 places
1. Troll
2. Troll Troll
3. Troll Troll TrollTry the TROLL Yeshiva, that you only need to show up every two years the way you do in the CR
@AAQ, so do as I say not do as I do?
Yes its a place called troll
AAQ, “so you should probably ask a Rav …”
You don’t believe in that.Reb E, kol hakovod.
@smiler613, i think it would be worth it for a troll to get a life
When organizations like Tzedek and Aleph glorify these crooks it make me sick, there is nothing honorable about running a Ponzi scam and ripping off people, these crooks were in jail for a reason.
Why is anyone taking this troll seriously?
The thiefs should be thrown out shul not be given the mizrach vant
He would make a great Secretary of Transportation with all his experience in bridges, other than that he is just a pompous windbag with a weight issue,