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Two hunters are crawling through the underbrush when one of them suddenly falls to the ground. The other guy checks for a heartbeat and finds none so he calls 9-1-1 in a panic. “Help!” He says, “My friend just died.” “Okay,” Said a calm voice at the other end of the phone. “The first thing I’ll need you to do is to make sure he’s actually dead.” The 9-1-1 operator hears a gunshot over the line. “Done. Now what?”
Was there any purpose to this post other than sowing anger? Just out of curiosity.
The question at hand here is not ‘why isn’t the marriage working’ because at this point, that’s irrelevant. The question is ‘why would the husband want to be in loveless marriage if not for wanting to either “get back” at the wife or something similarly nefarious.’
Many colds are under the ‘coronavirus’ umbrella so it’s not suspicious that they worked on corona vaccines earlier. Similarly, many vaccines can use the MRNA technology so it isn’t suspicious that they’ve been working on *that* for a while. Based on your tirade, I assume you are a fervent Trump supporter (it should be noted that I’m a pretty strong conservative myself, just one who doesn’t think vaccines were created to be WMDs or something). Trump took the vaccine, encouraged the vaccine, and *still does* encourage the vaccine.
Tangentially, Philosopher, genuine applause to you for having your device auto correct ‘teshuva’ to ‘yeshiva.’August 26, 2021 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm in reply to: Ahavas Yisrael for those in YU/the MO community (Ask me anything) #2003274
Not so if it is normalized, just like the husband signing the kesuvah — which in part is him agreeing to pay the wife if he divorces her — is not dooming the marriage from the get-go. Regardless, my point was not to discuss the validity of prenups, it was to point out that as far as ‘progress’ is concerned, there is valid machlokes going on about several of the points. Just because you happen to hold against doesn’t mean you should condemn the community that holds for.August 26, 2021 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm in reply to: Ahavas Yisrael for those in YU/the MO community (Ask me anything) #2003230
This summer, I attended the Morasha Kollel camp, a learning camp geared towards MO kids who like learning. It was three sedarim a day, every day (which is signifigantly more learning than most “yeshivish” camps have, I might add). The camp is run by Rav Yitzchak Cohen Shlit”a and Rav Mordechai Willig Shlit”a. On Shabbos, after the se’udah, all the boys would go to the beis midrah and engage in a Q&A with Rav Willig. One of the questions asked was why Rav Willig once taught a gemara shiur to girls. He answered by saying that A) gedolim like the Chavetz Chaim have qualified prohibitions against women learning torah shba’al peh (such as those of the shulchan aruch) to be situational, not a blanket issur, which is why the Shulchan Aruch makes an exception for Pirkei Avos. He also said that, nonetheless, he was not sure it was the correct move. I highly recommend you read his article, Trampled Laws. Over the course of the answer (which lasted 45 minutes) he made sure to let us know, in no uncertain terms, that Open Orthodoxy was nor Modern Orthodoxy. In fact, he went as far as saying that OO was worse than Conservative and Reform Jews because of misconceptions like the one being propagated right here — that is, that MO and OO are one and the same. The hate against MO is, I think, mostly either because people are confusing them with OO or they are resistant to change, for example the legal clause written into some MO marriages that demands the husband give the wife a get if he is abusive or something similar under penalty of facing significant monetary penalties. The “yeshivish” argument against it is that the husband has to give the get willingly but the beis din used to beat the husband until he gave a get in the time of the gemara! How is that more willing than this? There are giant gedolim who have emerged in the MO world and many, many upstanding, Torah-observant Jews. I think it is a mistake to let that get blotted out by those who seek to twist MO, be it purposely or accidentally.
Ethics aside, people who never owned slaves paying to people who never were slaves is just plain silly.
Wooooooow, people are quite satisfied with themselves aren’t they?
So may people who clearly are learning 24/7 with breaks only to eat, sleep, and daven.
“It encompasses whatever agenda is active at the moment in question.”
Abortion and LGBTQ+ and telling us to take off our Yarmulkes? Man, we must have different Torahs!
I can’t vote dem with their Israel politics.
And with the Biden administration telling Jews who are scared of anti-semitic attacks to ‘take off their Yarmulkes and stars of david’?! Can you say victim-blaming?
We have no debt of gratitude towards them.