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charlie: If it is between 2 frum Jewish parties, Beis Din will rule based exclusively on Halacha, not goyish law. Dinei Momunos are binding, and not secular law, if in conflict (i.e. Halacha demands one ruling while goyish law demands the opposite ruling.)
I’m casting him posthumously.
Bravo estherhamalka! Well said! I wish I had the courage to say it like it is, and put it down so beautifully. But me always being Mr. Nice Guy I just couldn’t get myself to say it so forcefully — and correctly — and beautifully.
cutie pie: There is more Torah in New York. In Lakewood it’s more concentrated though.
No way eclipse. I have way over 500 registrations myself and almost as many postings.
There is no place outside of NY (in chutz laaretz) that has the intensity of Torah and Yiddishkeit as New York. That’s why most frum Jews in America call New York their home.
I’ve been casted as squeak.
It’s only an issue bshas hadchak. And even then a baal nefesh is machmir.
If he’s late, he lost the seat.
My Rebbeim always made choizek of professional sports players, saying they are no more worth paying attention to then the garbage men.
Yersl:
I agree with you 100%.
Agreed.
I do agree with DY that attempting to apply secular law in a Torah setting is corrupting.
squeak, I like “boogeyman” better.
yentingyenta: So how’d she get in?
Why would you shlep someone into this mayhem?
tbt, no one is saying she is “responsible” to unlock it for him. But it definitely would be a nice gesture and the right thing for her to do.
mw, I think “posting under the influence”, or PUI, sounds better.
Daas Yochid: Well said. Many Gedolim have said the very same thing you have.
ckbshl: She probably didn’t unlock the door because she wasn’t trained well.
agittayid: I completely agree. The masculinization of women being pressed into society by the feminists, and unfortunately affecting even some frum folks, is a leading cause of this.
The title is wrong. The yeshiva is the real world. Outside the yeshiva is the oilem hasheker.
“So, for example the mishna says you can wear shaatnez if you are doing so while crossing a border and trying to avoid paying taxes on your merchandise by pretending it is your clothes.”
So the Mishna says you can avoid paying taxes by hiding what the government taxes?
Interesting shaila. I never thought of this, but you have a very good point.
oomis1105: So why then, if your “b” reasoning regarding kollel/seminary has any accuracy, is the divorce rate of kollel yungerleit lower than other frum demographics? Your argument would only lend itself if you could demonstrate they have a higher rate.
ItcheSrulik: In any event, the “engagement ring” (which itself is just a mishgas like Mod-80 pointed out and not a custom) is given by the “Vort” which is a few days or week after the proposal was made. So it is therefore a non-issue, as he is not proposing at the time he gives her the ring — the were already previously engaged as Choson/Kallah.
A card reading: Mazal Tov on a half a century of service to humanity!
Achdus is a lot better.
Because they are spoiled by modern society and influenced by it.
“Since everyone knows that it is customary nowadays to give a ring to a girl upon reaching an agreement to get married at a later date and that no one ever has in mind to accomplish Kiddushin by that giving of the ring”
Sam2: It isn’t customary by Jews to give a ring by the proposal. (Maybe it is by non-Jews.) The custom is to give a bracelet then.
Let’s say the proposal was a kiddushin. Then they have a chuppa 3 months later. What is the problem with the proposal/kiddushin?
So halacha doesn’t matter if it says you can’t do this?
Huh? Where do such bubbe maaisas come from?
Well said Derech HaMelech.
We just learnt that it is against halacha (see the Chofetz Chaim posted by HadaLXTP). There is nothing more to really discuss.
The same way you say to stay away from divorced men who may have gotten divorced for no fault of theirs, others say stay away from the children of divorced parents who may have not been negatively affected by their parents divorce.
Open your mind for one and you can open your mind for both.
fabie: Derech HaMelech has definitely been helpful to my understanding of these issues.
All Shidduchim came through G-d.
And a 30 year old should jump in?
I think that particular shadchan works with girls than want NO movies/TV PERIOD. You need a different type of girl and thus a different shadchan.
“Do you really believe that?”
100%.
I would say thank you. But what I told you before is the answer to what Rav Schach’s basis was. Another answer is that the giver should be thanking the collector for being given the opportunity to give.
Moderator-80: Maybe I am misremembering, but I think I learnt in halacha you can’t steer someone away from a merchant if the potential customer decided to purchase there.
And that woman was very wrong for what she did. I think it is even against the Torah.
“Manners stem from societal norms”
If that’s how you are choosing to define manners, there are many times we Jews either must or are better off to differ from “societal norms”. If that means someone will declare they lack “manners” so be it, rather than the alternative.
He probably thought you mentioned that to him because you wanted the price matched.
“I find it hard to believe that Rav Shach would say that you don’t have to say “thank you” to someone when they give you money.”
They are not giving money to the collector. The collector is merely an agent for the Torah, and not the beneficiary.
Afterall, the divorced boy may have gotten divorced for no fault of his own. Why automatically treat a divorced boy as second class and not consider him (assuming he has no children.)
“how about to go out with bochurim who they themselves have been married and divorced, is that fair? i dont think there is a/t wrong with the bochur per say, but i dont think it is fair to say that since my parents marriage did not work out i have to marry a bochur who has been married previously”
BJJ:
Why are you considering marrying a divorced guy anymore second class than a girl from a divorced home? Also give the divorced guy a fair chance.
willi, how well’s your optimum service working for you?