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SQUARE_ROOT:
“This is important, because when Rabbi Ahron Cohen speaks to “various countries” about the evils of “The Zionists”, that is both Lashon HaRa, and also CHILLUL HASHEM, because non-Jews are listening.”As usual, Zionists have it totally backwards. Heretics, including the Zionists about whom he is speaking, are obviously not biChlal amisecha, so the halachos of L”H do not apply to them. In addition, it is a great Kiddush Hashem to inform the gentiles that Jews are represented by only the Torah and its sages and not by Nationalist heretics.
Can you please stop polluting these boards with “Religious Zionist” nonsense?
SQUARE_ROOT
He published that in his Kovetz Maamarim, obviously before he was murdered in the Holocaust, not that it matters precisely when he published it.
And that was universally accepted because it is the simple truth.A few decades later, in the holy land, the Brisker Rav published – and the Gerrer Rebbe and all the others signed on – that “Religious Zionist” education is a “sea of heresy mixed in with a drop of Torah”. This is arguably even more severe than Rav Elchonon’s statement.
According to the Torah, “Religious Zionism” is idolatry and heresy. Period.
YB:
His view that Jews are not responsible for anything the Zionists do or don’t do is indeed a very important one.WrongJew:
Please consult ASAP with a competent LOR, as you hold views that are in direct conflict to the core tenets of Judaism.Duvidf:
Please immediately consult a competent LOR.As Rav Elchonon Wasserman and others wrote, “Religious Zionism” is simply religion biShituf with that same idolatry of Zionism.
And the belief in a divinely-ordained exile that can only be ended by the Messiah is in fact a core foundational principle of Judaism.Dofi (what a name):
You don’t mention the reason they joined that conference: to make the point clear that Jews are not to be held responsible for anything the Zionists do or don’t do.@Litvish95:
The gemara is also readable by English speakers on the Internet, of course.
The answer is very simple: that wasn’t the point of the discussion, and there was no need to mention it.As mentioned, and to quote your post: you and other Zionist idolaters have still failed to answer why you have never expressed pain over the spiritual death of millions of (fellow?) Yidden over the past hundred years due to the Zionists.
To further quote your post: “if you are Jewish, let me ask you a question:” how are you so quick to throw out a Jew’s chezkas kashrus or, worse, accuse a Jew of being a non-Jew?
Do teshuva, including asking for mechila bein adam laChaveiro, so that Y”K might help you.
In my prior response, just submitted, I wrote that SQR is a “disgrace”. I want to emphasize that calling (or even suspecting) myself and others “paid agents of Hamas” and the like is absolutely disgraceful and it was in response to that I wrote the above; still, I should have written that post was “disgraceful”, not that the one who posted is “a disgrace”.
Spamming these boards with Zionist nonsense is bad enough. But accusing Jews – who have a chezkas kashrus as far as you know – about something that you yourself are clearly lacking is extremely disgraceful, of course. Stop it. All of it. At least have an honest conversation, not spam and not (false) character assassination.
SQUARE_ROOT:
Your memory is obviously lacking, but there is anyways no need to state that the sun rises during the day and sets at night. Unfortunately, since idolaters like yourself spam these boards with your Zionist nonsense and filth, some then choose to show why those claims are obviously false. But responding to endless Zionist idolatry and nonsense is for the sake of G-d and Judaism, not whatever other silliness you imagine.But since you mentioned:
“One of the three signs of a Jew is to feel rachmonus, and this has been shown to be lacking. “The Zionists are the biggest achzarim, having shmaded and destroyed millions of Jewish lives over the past century and forcibly impoverish our brethren there who refuse to be shmaded in their army and therefore forbidden to work until age 26.
You and your fellow Zionist idolaters have never once condemned any of that unspeakable cruelty towards innocent Jews by supposedly Jews. You are a disgrace; at least don’t accuse others (falsely, as it happens) about what you, yourself, are quite lacking in.
Do teshuva, drop the idol, and stop spamming these boards.
@Litvish95:
Wow; so much with which to disagree.Do you mean the time when the mods approved the posts?
Gedolim also felt the pain of the Zionist shmad, but I didn’t see any Zionists commenting on how terrible it was that the Zionists have been perpetrating a spiritual holocaust for over a century. The point here is an academic (but very real) topic, not a guestbook for Zionist soldiers.
Regarding sources, I have mentioned Rav Elchonon and Kovetz Maamarim, the Satmar Rav and his Torah (as in VaYoel Moshe, Al HaGeulah… and others), etc.
@yankel-berel:
See above.
Of course there is no way that the Chazon Ish, Rav Shach and all the rest would ever permit anyone to be shmaded in the Zionist army.VIN doesn’t generally allow comments that are unflattering of the Zionist idol.
Regardless, this is also spam.
An academic Zionist is obviously not a valid messenger of the shitos of the Chazon Ish.
The Zionist army is shmad and all three of the gimmel chamuros. The Chazon Ish obviously did not allow anyone to subject themselves to that in the Zionist army.
The Chazon Ish’s only point about learning/not learning was that is somebody not learning would dishonestly claim an exemption for learning then that dishonesty could put at risk the general exemption. To resolve that issue, that non-learner should learn and get his exemption honestly, not shmad themselves in the Zionist army of shmad.
It’s really not complicated.
yankel berel:
The Avnei Nezer never stated that the oaths are inapplicable and/or irrelevant. The Avnei Zezer agrees that the oaths are indeed relevant and applicable, as brought by numerous poskim throughout the ages and as unfortunately whose deadly punishment was seen – and documented – by chazal throughout the ages.As mentioned to you above, but seemingly ignored:
“No, he does not dispute it. In fact, from True Torah Jews Org site (read the whole thing):
“He answers that the Jewish Oaths were imposed on the roots of the Jewish souls in Heaven…At this point, the Avnei Nezer is bothered: …how could there be a punishment for violating them? He answers that “I will permit your flesh as the gazelles and deer of the field” is not to be understood as a direct punishment, but as a cutting off of Hashem’s protection that comes as a result of the sin…Hashem’s providence and supervision is removed from the body, and the body is left as ownerless as the wild animals, which have no soul.”Clearly, it would be devastating to violate the oaths, even according to the Avnei Nezer and it is very dishonest to imply otherwise – as the Zionists idolaters do.”
So, yes; you are left with, at most, an academic question.
@Participant:
Severe TDS?The prior administration printed trillions of dollars. The effects of that don’t magically disappear in a new administration, but their policies seem to be at least helping, biEzras Hashem.
Israel “under the bus”? The current administration sent its own forces and equipment to destroy Iran’s nuclear program.
Bris Milah is under attack where?
Vaccinations are still required as before.Severe TDS.
Always_Ask_Questions, ZSK and others:
There are multiple answers for the omissions, but omission does not at all mean disagreement.
For example, the oaths are not as relevant to most people as, say, washing hands before bread.None of those, however, claim that the oaths are not in force, and poskim and history show that they very much are.
user176:
See above.A dispute is when two sides explicitly argue opposite rulings about a particular law. It is not a “dispute” when, like by the oaths, numerous poskim bring something as halacha and some happen to not mention it. That’s called an academic question as to why the others did not mention it.
Avi K:
Of course, the Satan cannot act without G-d’s permission, but that has nothing to do with this. Rabbi Kook’s philosophy was not accepted as valid Torah by the Torah sages, so no comment. But Chazal tell us that Hashem will bring the geulah Himself, not through basar viDam, regardless.yankel berel:
This is about the practical applicability of the oaths despite endless and futile Zionist attempts to pretend otherwise, not your personal opinion of any organizations.@ZSK:
The oaths are introduced in Talmud Bavli (part of our actual canon, as you put it) and brought liHalacha by poskim throughout the ages (see the Satmar Rav for a long list) and are invoked by even the Rambam himself in Iggeres Teiman.Obviously, no Orthodox Jew should invalidate any gemara and also not mislead other Jews about vital halachos that are very real and applicable to life, as has already been proven throughout history.
user176:
The “Religious Zionist” idolaters try very hard, but utterly fail in explaining away the absolute applicability of the oaths.yankel berel:
No, he does not dispute it. In fact, from True Torah Jews Org site (read the whole thing):
“He answers that the Jewish Oaths were imposed on the roots of the Jewish souls in Heaven…At this point, the Avnei Nezer is bothered: …how could there be a punishment for violating them? He answers that “I will permit your flesh as the gazelles and deer of the field” is not to be understood as a direct punishment, but as a cutting off of Hashem’s protection that comes as a result of the sin…Hashem’s providence and supervision is removed from the body, and the body is left as ownerless as the wild animals, which have no soul.”Clearly, it would be devastating to violate the oaths, even according to the Avnei Nezer and it is very dishonest to imply otherwise – as the Zionists idolaters do.
yankel berel:
No, the Avnei Nezer did not dispute it.The oaths are all in force, as they have been throughout history, as can be seen by anyone who cares to open a sefer. The Zionists violate them wantonly just as they violate the rest of the Torah.
You Zionists are pathetic. You spam the board with nonsense, people respond point-by-point to your nonsense, and you just ignore it and echo each other instead of at least attempting to answer those points. Pathetic idolaters.
MODS: Please do not approve future spam from SQUARE_ROOT. There are plenty of “Religious Zionist” sites at which he could post this, and he anyways doesn’t respond to responses to his spam posts, which means it’s not a conversation and therefore doesn’t belong on these boards.
ZSK:
You mean not able to convince you and them to drop the Zionist idol?“RightJew”
His points are not “great”; they are nonsense, as mentioned above.And yours is too. Of course, the creation of the “State” severely violated the oaths as mentioned above. That same UN told the Zionists that they were going to start a new mandate in 1948 but the Zionists said no and declared “independence” instead. As well, to actually achieve that “State”, the Zionists needed to fight an actual war (and war and terror before 1948), as mentioned, and as every Zionist knows very well.
SQUARE_ROOT:
Your reply is also Zionist spam.
No major rabbis held that the oaths were no longer in force (though you admit that they were in force before that, contrary to your original post spam).
Cite those original words. There is nothing there.Regarding Rav Meir Simcha, he likely never actually stated that, as that appeared only in a “Religious Zionist” publication. But even if he did actually state that, that would mean only that peaceful and non-political ascent at that time would not violate the very much in force oath of rebelling against the nations. It would not at all permit a political state nor would it permit ascent en masse.
It’s also imply idiotic to state:
“..the United Nations Organization both voted to establish a Jewish state, in 1920 CE and 1948 CE, so the State of Israel was NOT established by force.”
The simple facts are that the Zionist “State” sure was established by force – lots of force, in fact. The Zionists fought a war of “independence” in 1948, and both fought and terrorized both the British and the Arabs before that. That was not what the League of Nations had stated should happen, of course, but it’s anyways irrelevant because the use of force is forbidden (even according to Rabbi AY Kook) regardless of what the LON/UN/whomever stated.Stop spamming these boards.
Evalimoshavlo:
Once prophecy ended in Tanach, it was later given only to children and fools. Given that you are clearly claiming to be revealing a prophecy (because there is no rational way you could claim such a thing), and your writing seems to indicate that you are not a child…anonymous Jew:
Can we stop believing that which the Torah and our sages tell us? A heretic could do that, but a believing Jew cannot and, if they have any brains, would not. Of course the Torah protects. There are answers to your questions as to what happened in those cases, including midas haDin being a different calculus than in normal times, etc. But what makes you claim there was “no assimilation” in all of those? There certainly was assimilation in at least some of those including (to some extent) even in Egypt, the first galus.SQUARE_ROOT:
More Zionist spam.
The most pathetic part of this is that the original author could have opened a VaYoel Moshe and would have seen that his “questions” are not questions.First of all, the objections to Zionism are far greater than “only” the Oaths, deadly serious as those oaths were throughout history.
Zionism is diametrically opposed to Judaism and is its greatest enemy by far. Therefore, of course it violates G-d’s will. Zionism is all about turning Jews and Judaism into Nationalists Zionists and Zionism. Obviously, that is a severe violation of G-d’s will.As the Brisker Rav noted, the “State” the Zionists managed to achieve was the greatest triumph of the Satan since the golden calf idol. Both that idol and this idol are obviously against G-d’s will.
We certainly do derive practical halacha from aggadita unless that would go against halachos elsewhere. And even if we didn’t, we still understand from there G-d’s will. That’s in general.
But, here, specifically, we have numerous examples throughout history of mass murder that occurred, which the great Torah sages of the time (or later) indicated were due to violating the oaths, including Shevet Ephraim leaving Egypt early and the Ben Koziva rebellion. The Rambam himself, quite the “halachist” invokes the oaths in Iggeres Teiman. So, the oaths clearly are halachically in force, as that was the reason given for G-d having punished those Jews at those times and a warning to Jews at other times to not rebel due to those and not to arise en masse to E”Y due to those oaths.
Regarding the oaths not appearing in various halachic works, that is an academic question, not a serious question, but that would likely be because they aren’t applicable to day-to-day life like, say praying and kashrus. This involves things like mass “aliyah” and fighting wars against nations. These are not your typical day-to-day Jewish issues, at least not until the Zionists came and grossly violated the entire Torah (not “just” the Oaths) as per the Brisker Rav.
5TR:
The cause of antisemitism is assimilation. Its antidote, then, is the opposite. Do yours and Hashem will do His.Koifer BIkur:
What a screen name. No, He is obviously not sending that message, because that’s against the Torah in multiple ways including the gimmel shevuos, as brought by poskim throughout the ages.We daven for Hashem to return us all to E”Y with Mashiach, not CH”V to en masse do so on our own.
akuperma:
The Zionists would never allow that. No matter how many religious Jews would be members of their parliament, that “State” is Zionist, and that is their greatest priority. As the Zionists stated all the way back, better Zionism and no State rather than a State without Zionism.anon1m0us:
“A famous Rosh Yeshiva said that today’s generation more people go OTD by staying in Yeshiva than by going into the Army. Look how many people even had time to betul Torah for a stupid match.”I didn’t know that the Reconstructionist movement had yeshivas. Famous where? Hollywood?
Your accusation of bitul Torah is odd considering that the greatest actual Roshei Yeshiva promoted this. They are obviously well aware of what is and is not bitul Torah.Please help yourself and find an authentic rabbi and liberate yourself from your anti-Torah mindset.
ZSK:
Links are not allowed, but see please Judaism StackExchange question #82218.somejewiknow:
Presumably, the problem is that their advertisers wouldn’t like that silence.Zionism has not “become a dirty word”, as if it was always so wonderful. Zionism is fundamentally anti-Jewish and is diametrically opposed to Judaism.
Regarding the comparison to the 1930s, first, some background:
Throughout galus, whenever a place turned hostile to Jews, Hashem always arranged other places to open up to take in the Jews. The sole exception was the Holocaust, because the Zionists interfered in that hashgacha and lobbied governments against allowing Jews into their countries, and on and on.There are at least two fundamental differences between today and 1930s Poland.
1. The Zionists then needed rivers of Jewish blood spilled to get “sympathy” from the nations in order to get their Zionist “State”. But, at this point, they already have their Zionist “State”.
2. We have a mesorah from Rav Chaim Volozhin that the last station in galus for Torah is in America.user176
“Need I warn about the dangers of speaking negatively about eretz yisrael? E”Y is eretz hakodesh…Whether controlled by an irreligious body or not is irrelevant. ”Nobody is speaking negatively about E”Y. But, the “who is controlling” (part of) it question is obviously very relevant if you are considering moving there.
“…the mesirut nefesh those living in E”Y must endure to learn Torah…it is precisely that mesirut nefesh that will ultimately put E”Y in the right hands.”
This is totally made up. Hashem alone will control when He will return to E”Y. Hashem loves all His children wherever in the world they may be, and it’s very possible that a guy doing daf yomi in Phoenix despite a long day at work, etc. will be just as much a factor in bringing the geulah as anyone else’s mesirus nefesh for Torah.
Kids have to know, including the example set by their parents, that we exist to serve Hashem properly. Once that foundation is established and everything you allow or forbid (for yourself as well) is viewed through that lens, then it becomes much easier to do and require of your kids what is right even if other people do differently.
The answer to “but everyone does it” is, then, that they are wrong but they don’t know any better, and we will try to do only what is right, not follow other people in doing what is wrong.
This applies to everything from outright issurim to gray-area issues of sensitivity.
SQUARE_ROOT and other Zionists:
He was wrong then, is wrong now and will be wrong forever. Of all places that Jews live, the Zionist paradise is statistically, by far, the most dangerous place for Jews. And the wicked Zionists hate the frum Jews and are attacking them now in unprecedented ways, attempting to end the olam haTorah in the portions of EY under their control. Zionism is itself diametrically opposed to Judaism.Again, as mentioned, we have a mesorah from Rav Chaim Volozhin that the last station for Torah in galus is the USA, not the Zionist paradise. We also have explicit prophesies from the prophets that being in Jerusalem at the end of times will not exactly be a picnic.
The truth is that if one did not believe Rav Chaim Volozhin, then the logical thing to do would be to look into other civilized countries, not to be shmaded by the Zionists in their paradise that is perpetually in “existential risk” according to their own leaders.
yankel berel:
Great post re: yeridah.brisker:
Filters can easily remove images (and you could do so even without filters). But filters cannot and will not remove treif “hashkafos” imparted by banned magazines.We have a mesorah from Rav Chaim Volozhin that the last station for Torah in galus is the USA.
@ZSK:
Rabbi Kook was indeed very learned and had certain standards that were extremely high, like tznius, for example. He also held that their “State” may not come about through violence and war, which is exactly how it did end up being founded. But all of that doesn’t change what the gedolim held of him, as mentioned above. The Chazon Ish also banned the sale of Rabbi Kook’s books, which included at least Rabbi Kook’s “hashkafa” books, if not also the others. So, no, that would not fit into the rubric of “hardline chareidi”.“Calling large factions of Yere Shamayim, Torah keeping Jews fools/idoloters is not a wise choice of words.”
You have it backwards. The facts are what they are. As Rav Elchonon and all the rest wrote, Zionism is idolatry and heresy, and “Religious Zionism” is both religion and idolatry biShituf. And idolatry is, of course, irrational. So, anyone who believes in Zionism as part of their religion (as do “MO” and other “Religious Zionists”) is, therefore, one or both of those: fool and/or idolater. It really is that simple.
So, therefore, you have it backwards. Those large factions of Jews should give up the idol of Zionism. By doing so, they will cease to be both fools and/or idolaters, as noted.
@yankel-berel:
As many gedolim wrote, Rabbi Kook wrote and spread heresy in Klal Yisrael, which continues to be spread today by his students and students of his students. Period. This is indisputable as it is simply the facts.As to your questions, in general:
The Brisker Rav convened the B”D of Brisk for every one of those titles that he felt he needed to use when addressing Rabbi Kook.
Rabbi Kook was mesader kiddushin of the rather young then-bochur Rav Elyashiv, not the nonagenarian gadol Rav Elyashiv. Etc.As shown above, you can’t bring raayos from stories and/or fairy tales. Stories are very specific in nature and, when quoted, like here, are very much lacking context and other pertinent details.
But the Satmar Rav and Rav Elchonon and others all applied titles to him specifically, titles including “mechabel biKerem Hashem”, “Rasha gamur” and more. Rav Yosef Yedid mockingly called him a Navi (and titled that piece “Regarding an apikoros against whom we must protest”). And that’s besides the others who condemned his Torah, like the Gerrer Rebbe who ruled that Rabbi Kook was “omer al tamei tahor” (and that was after Rabbi Kook supposedly retracted his “controversial” positions – but afterwards essentially rescinded that retraction), etc.
Those are not stories about things that happened, which could have all sorts of reasons that make them irrelevant to anything, like what you quoted; rather, the above are criticisms of Rabbi Kook himself. Just open up a Kovetz Maamarim, for example.
besalel:
Calling Antiochus a “slimeball” is like calling Kastner a Hungarian; that might well be true, but is not at all the concern.
In fact, Antiochus stated recently that he would do it all over again, not any differently.Regardless, Hashem is the one in charge; our job is simply to go through the motions, so to speak, of hishtadlus. Hishtadul would indicate to vote the candidate most aligned with Torah values, and then let Hashem run His world.
@Avi_K:
Rabbi Kook learned a lot in Europe but then was “omer al tamei tahor” as per the Gerrer Rebbe; Rav Elchonon Wasserman and the Satmar Rav among others were far, far, more condemnatory of Rabbi Kook. Rabbi Kook’s son, who was far more radical than even his father, was never taken seriously in the Torah world and obviously was not a gadol. The Satmar Rav discusses that chazal, if memory serves, and points out that this sign of the fruits would be when they are miraculous/super-sized, not when they are normal. It doesn’t matter that the land was much less developed in Twain’s time, of course.Of course, even if those Rabbis Kook did believe that then, and even if either of their opinions did have any Torah authority, it’s been a century or so since that alleged “beginning”, and what we’ve instead seen is, as Rav Elchonon noted, “galus under the yevsektzia, which is the worst galus of all”.
The Zionist “State” was founded completely against the Torah and remains just as forbidden by the Torah; only an idolater (or a fool) would believe that this cataclysmic disaster of unprecedented shmad is the “beginning of the redemption”.
That publication was banned by the gedolim. They also lean rather liberal/leftist.
“which is not the case with these licentious ones [הני הפשים]”
I don’t think that translation to “licentious” is accurate. פשים are those who transgress both willfully and, worse, “negligently”.
Always_Ask_Questions:
You aren’t being specific: Jews who specifically were looking to “integrate” into secular culture were rejected from doing so. Jews continuing to live as Jews as did their fathers and grandfathers and all the way back, however, were doing just fine.You also seem to have missing the part that his Plan A was conversion. He himself has zero Jewish descendants as do others who became Zionists, of course. Since the entire goal of Zionism was assimilation, there would obviously be no objection to intermarriage. Even today, Zionists move out to various countries and marry the women there. And, not to forget, the wicked Zionists also run programs to mingle their youth with the Arabs, and Yad Lachim and others exist specifically for the purpose of rescuing Jewish women from the hell that is an Arab “husband” and village.
No, Zionism does not at all guarantee Jewish grandchildren.
chiefshmerel:
Yes, the most mild of what the gedolim stated in their criticism of Rabbi Kook was the Gerrer Rebbe after Rabbi Kook supposedly agreed (on which he “clarified” that he meant only the “intent” and only if the others would retract) to retract his writings. The Gerrer Rebbe wrote that Rabbi Kook ruled “al tamei tahor”. That was the mildest of what the gedolim stated about him.“You don’t source…”
You can read Rav Miller on the Holocaust in A Divine Madness. You can buy the sefarim of the Chazon Ish, Rav Elchonon and all the rest. Or, you can ask your LOR for the sources and if he has other sources that claim otherwise and bring those.Avi K:
“…British…greatly restricted Jewish immigration in 1936 in a vain attempt to appease the Mufti ym”s…”
No, that would be because of the Zionist terror and war that the Zionists waged against both the Arabs and the British, so the British didn’t want it to get any worse. Had the wicked Zionists not invaded and not agitated, then the British would have welcomed and encouraged Jewish immigration at a time when Jews badly needed (especially because the same wicked Zionists lobbied governments against allowing in Jews to their countries).Eileh elohecha
simcha613:
The proof that your fantasy is incorrect is that all the gedolim were vehemently against Zionism, and many were also vehemently against even the non-Zionist Chovevei Tzion that preceded it. Rav Hirsch stated that what Rabbi Kalischer (who founded but later retracted his support for CT) considered a “great mitzvah”, he Rav Hirsch considered “no small aveirah”. And that without the Zionist kefirah and replacement theology of changing Judaism into secular godless idolatrous land-based nationalism which was the case of the Zionist “opportunity” to which you referred.No, “we” were not all given that opportunity. That is given only with the coming of Moashiach. Until then, while some may go, it is assur for Jews to en masse go up to Eretz Yisrael, as per the gimmel shevuos which are, of course, fully in effect according to all. So, that’s obviously not what Rav Meir Simcha meant with Berlin replacing Jerusalem, of course.
Finally, look at what the Zionists have done over the past century. According to their official stats, 40% of all Jews in Israel today are completely secular, and 35% are “traditional/Conservative”. That’s 75% of the JEWISH population there. That’s after the intense teshuva movement that many have been valiantly attempting despite the ongoing immense Zionist shmad. No, it was not a very good idea to join the Zionists in being cannon fodder for building their paradise.
Always_Ask_Questions:
“And so was Hertzl. True, his primary motivation was fear of anti-semitism in Europe (pretty prophetic, unfortunately)…”
This is a classic Zionist myth, of course.No, his primary motivation was wanting to be “normal”, which is why his first plan was mass baptism R”L L”A. Once that didn’t work out, he chose Zionism, especially because of how en vogue it was among the Christian Zionists (who long pre-dated him and his fellow heretics) and how he would be able to propagandize Jews for it.
If his mythological supposed concern was in any way “prophetic”, then it was very much of the “self-fulfilling” type. In fact, he and other Zionists deliberately said nasty things about Jews, like “A Jew’s life is a dog’s life”, and that a Jew cannot be a citizen of his host country, and on and on. He, himself, wrote that anti-Semites will become the Zionists’ friends, because that would get Jews to emigrate to their planned future State.
And on and on.
@yankel berel
Looks like the sand is on your side of this.
Claiming that this is “hashkafa” rather than “halacha” is absurd, as mentioned.It is halachically forbidden to believe in idolatry and heresy. Doing so could also cause someone to be considered a heretic/idolater, which is an additional and very serious concern. So, yes, it is halachic, of course.