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He makes a great point. Even if one was disappointed with the Asifa that doesn’t lessen the dangers of the internet.
It’s a Minhag based on Sakanah and we see that there is no Sakanah Bizman Hazeh. There’s no need to extend it past what is already Nahug.
147: You forgot a third: The Rav who might need to answer a Shaila immediately.
Mommamia: The dream means whatever you interpret it to mean. The Gemara in Brachos explains how every symbol in a dream, no matter how bad it sounds, is actually good. This is because as long as you interpret it in a positive manner, that changes the meaning of the dream to something positive.
Mommamia: If you are really scared about it and are able to handle it, you should fast on the day of the dream (too late now) in addition to saying the Hatava.
MDG: Dayag and Dayan come from the exact same root. In fact, most jobs can be described in the same way. Take a noun or a verb, put a Patach under the first letter and a Kamatz (with a Dagesh) in the second. This is common through Mishnaic Hebrew. All Ben Yegudah did was standardize that.
And R’ Schachter quotes a Maharil that we are not Mapkid on Mil’eil and Mil’rah even where it changes the meaning. I think, however, that this is a Limud Z’chus at best. I have long thought that someone who habitually messes up Mil’eils and Mil’ras is only Yotzei as a Loez and not as a Korei B’lashon Hakodesh.
Chulent: It is well known what the Gra (1720-1897) thought of the Besht (1698-1760). Admitting that fact does not lessen the validity of Chassidism nor does denying reality add anything.
Yungerman: Why not, if it’s solid? Ein Bishul Achar Bishul.
Zees: Once again, you took a point and turned it to the extreme. How does being against the Asifa (which many Rabbonim were) or Mattiring unfiltered internet (which a few Rabbonim have done) extend to looking at whatever you want or doing whatever you want? Your argument changes from one of logic to one of mockery when you do that.
RKKW: And what makes me removed from the Inyan of Tznius? Because I disagree with you on Shaitels? That’s an entirely circular assumption. And are the contemporary Gedolim and Poskim who Mattir Shaitels “so far removed from the Inyan of Tznius”???
Would you like someone to write a Sefer for you here? They are long and complex. Ask a rov for a general overview. The Artscroll Shabbos (Shabbos kitchen, I think) book has a good list, I’ve been told, though I’ve also been told it’s slightly more Machmir than normative.
Zees: None of your points are inherently wrong. But when you take things too far you hurt your own points and you insult others. By making it seem that your opinion (and the opinion of those Gedolim and Poskim you follow) is the only “Torah true” opinion, you cut yourself off from the part of the Klal that disagrees with you. Machlokes is supposed to be Marbeh Shalom, not Sinah and division. Eilu V’eilu is more than just an important Halachic concept. It’s a way of life. Now, one has to be very careful in knowing which opinions are valid and fall under Eilu V’eilu and which opinions don’t fall under the framework of valid Halachic positions. But more valid positions exist than just your own.
PBA: Really? Even in the middle of the summer where society expects here to wear much less? She’s definitely Tzanua by the standard expectations of her society, which is all you can really expect, isn’t it?
Health: What pronunciation did they change? Are you referring to S’fardi Havara?
Chulent: There is a difference between Pritzus-dik and Assur for a Jew to watch. You can’t really say that a Goy, who does not have the same Halachos of Tznius, is a Prutzah for wearing a short-sleeved shirt that doesn’t reach the elbows.
RKKW: Meaning you have no actual response so you say something snide that makes it sound like you know what you’re talking about. Got it.
Loyal Jew: I’m not sure what the Issur of descending from Avodah Zarah or irony is. Still, I agree with you that the others could be a problem if the person becomes too involved.
Dash: Which probably makes it only Chukas Hagoyim, which isn’t Assur for Goyim to do. The flame probably doesn’t have anyone believe in anything Avodah Zarah related having to do with it anymore.
Oomis: If you had no way to know then you’re Anus. These are all clear Halachos in Yoreh De’ah though. It’s not like they take any fancy logic or Lomdus. I think they’re even in the Kitzur Shulchan Aruch if you’re actually interested.
Chulent: A) The same way you milk a living cow, and B) you slightly misread my post. That’s the point of Assur to eat Mishum T’reifah. It is a Treifah, but I don’t think that’s relevant if you eat it before it’s dead. I don’t think an Issur T’reifah is Chal on an Issur Basar Min Hachai.
PBA: There’s no Chiyuv to eat meat on Yom Tov. It’s a B’feirush Rama in Hilchos Aninus (337 maybe?).
Oomis: Actually, only a properly-Schechted Kosher animal can be a Treifah (or, at least, Assur to eat Mishum T’reifah). And milk from a T’reifah is Assur.
RKKW: And I suppose you’re so much smarter than R’ Chaim Kanievsky to realize that when he can’t?
MZ: Those sources exist, though I don’t know if there are that many. Most Poskim realized that R’ Moshe was a Bar Hachi of being relied upon in this case. A few still called it completely Treif, though almost no one nowadays would say that against R’ Moshe.
Chulent: Iwould assume the men’s events aren’t Pritzus-dig, are they?
Naysberg: I have made that Ta’ana myself because it has several Halachic Nafka Minos. Still, to restart a dead language isn’t easy. I don’t think he left the Biblical Hebrew L’hachis. He just did what he felt would make it spoken again. Even in the times of the Tannaim those that spoke did not speak Biblical Hebrew. Languages develop. It does happen.
Avhaben: I never implied an extremist. Rav Moshe is the most Machmir mainstream Shittah in this. He is also the person who K’lal Yisroel in America generally holds by (except by Shabbos clocks and some Eruvin). I was saying that even according to him an anonymous CR shouldn’t be an Issur of talking to women. There’s no Kirvah whatsoever.
OOM: I respond seriously to them because even though they’re trolling, others might take them seriously and they do generally bring up topics worthy of discussion.
R.T.: You missed my point. According to many Poskim one is allowed to learn anything on Erev Tishah B’av. You are allowed to learn the sad things according to everyone even on Tishah B’av itself.
Loyal Jew: Even if you want to go as far as R’ Moshe in his famous T’shuvah, none of those concerns should apply over the internet.
Zees: Thanks. I don’t sleep enough. I meant Erev Sukkos, obviously. Sorry.
Everyone who gets them has different triggers and different ways to deal with them. What works for some won’t work for others. Giving advice is silly. Just find what works for you.
R.T.: Interesting. First of all, it’s a Machlokes by Erev Tishah B’av. It seems that the Minhag by most is to be Meikil to learn, though it is far from a dominant majority. Also, how is refusing to sleep outside the Sukkah on Erev Pesach not a violation of Bal Tosif? Because it’s Shev V’al Ta’aseh? Well, I might know one thing I’ll be looking up two nights from now.
HaLeiVi: Maybe not. I guess it depends on the particular rain dance and which tradition it comes from and how you do it. Native American ones should be actual AZ, I’m pretty sure.
PBA: Until I saw Goq’s post I thought it a Davar Pashut that they weren’t allowed, actually.
MDG: The Shulchan Aruch’s Lashon of Lo Yeilech… doesn’t imply a complete Issur. For an actual Issur he uses the word “Assur”. Lo… generally implies a very strong Middas Chassidus, but not an actual Issur. (Just like “Tzarich” implies Lechatchilah and not B’dieved. I feel like this is in the Yad Malachi or one of those K’lalim Sefarim.)
OoM, this feels like a thread for you.
PBA: I just read this thread. A rain dance should be Avodah Zarah.
Brainfreeze: “I side with the Gedolim”? Really? It’s one thing to have a P’sak or a Ra’aya from a Gemara to help determine what you think is P’shat. But who on Earth are you to “stick your head between these great mountains”? And based on a personal, inherently-biased S’vara (because every personal S’vara is inherently biased), no less?!
Naysberg: See the Gemara in Kiddushin (29a maybe?) and a Maharshal (T’shuvos 72 maybe, I don’t quite remember) that seem to disagree with you.
Clay Kodesh: Your posts are sensible and probably P’shat, but you can’t call them Halachah. We don’t learn out Halachos from Aggada. (Bava Basra 56b (I think), on the other hand, is seemingly a good source.)
R: What’s un-Tznius about a woman posting?
Nechomah: Modern Hebrew is still very, very close to Lashon Hakodesh. Besides, it’s seemingly a Machlokes (Abudraham and P’nei Yehosua against the Nodah Bihudah) as to whether the natural development of the Hebrew language stays Lashon Hakodesh or whether only Biblical Hebrew was Lashon Hakodesh, even in the times of the Gemara.
Realist: Is your point that Mayim Achronim is a Din? I think the people on this thread know that. And yet, a large chunk of Rishonim and Achronim say that Nishtaneh Hateva and it’s unnecessary now. So according to them and people Noheg like them, it’s neither a Minhag, Chumra, nor a Din.
HaLeiVi: It is statistically true for the internet as a whole.
Just Smile: Thank you very much. I had been wanting to hear what R’ Matisyahu Salomon had said. I was shocked when they said the Seder Slichos at the very end though.
Voldemort: I left that issue alone for a reason. It’s a big discussion. Some claim that he did, others think he thought he could have but gives no indication that he actually did.
Cheftze: There are two concepts in play here. One is an issue of Hikon Likras Elokecha Yisroel. You always have to put on something special for Davening to show Kavod to HKBH. The second is that when one is in front of the King, one must dress appropriately. Therefore, one must be dressed in a manner which would be considered acceptable in front of a human leader. I always wear clothes for Davening that are just as nice or nicer as our class was told to wear when we visited the White House (we were supposed to meet the president but he was busy). That seems to be a fair application. I also make sure to put on something special just for Davening.
Cheftze: I’m not suggesting anything. I’m suggesting that we have to know what the SH”A means before we try to apply it.
Bein_Hasdorim: Ironically, the concept of Areivim Kol Yisrael didn’t apply at Mattan Torah. It didn’t start (at least according to Rashi and many later Poskim) until we entered Eretz Yisrael.