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February 5, 2020 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm in reply to: Issuing calls for Tehillim when it’s (almost) too late. #1829159
I always wondered the same thing. I am
On multiple whatsapp chats for Cholim and unfortunately some of them take a turn for the worse and then when they are already on hospice and the family is told it’s the end, the chats start to go crazy begging people to read more and more Tehillim . I understand no prayer goes to waste I just don’t know why we expect an open miracle for someone who the doctors have already closed their files on and given weeks or days. Some of these chats were running for a long time already and I could understand a person seeing a yeshuah After a terrible diagnosis , but not usually once they are past the point of being helped medically.
My brother still has back pain until today, over a decade later. If anything natural can be tried at all, try it. One practitioner told my sister- what pulls the spine into a curve? MUSCLES. If they are retrained to not pull in the wrong places, the spine can straighten without using plates and bolts and fusing vertebrae. Which can be incredibly expensive, painful, and may cause years of pain.
My mom had surgery many years ago, and then in the last two decades, three of my siblings. Each went to a top specialist. Each required a second surgery- two because of pain issues and one because the surgery failed and needed to be repeated. In the past year or two, two of my nephews were also diagnosed with scoliosis. One sister tried the natural route with chiropracters etc and was successful at reversing the curve. The second had her son in yeshiva in israel and used a practitioner who practiced the feldenkrais method. Amazingly enough he came home last ben hazmanim and went for new xrays and his spine is now straight. This is after the manhattan doctor told her that ONLY surgery could fix it. Another friend told me her dr recommended strength training (she used a private trainer) and just that alone was enough to align her sons spine. So do your homework and really try natural methods before cutting open the spine and messing around with it.
Most people are priced out of Brooklyn which is now priced close to a million or up for a small dump. Who stays? The ones with very strong ties or reasons to stay. And that’s where the Sephardic community comes in. We have two main reasons to stay- first of all the schools- were very much into keeping with our traditions and you won’t find many Sephardic yeshivot in the US outside of Brooklyn or Lakewood. Second is family- Sephardic tens to keep their kids tied to their apron strings. Family is everything. Ashkenaz are far more likely to plant elsewhere on the globe than we would.
So we stay here… buying houses we can’t afford and living in. Apartments that are too smal
If you live in Brooklyn or Lakewood there’s a company autocorrect , love them. Takes all the hassle out of my worst ever errand. 646-397-4463November 4, 2019 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm in reply to: How much $$$ does a typical Frum family spend on groceries per week? #1797317
Who can keep track? Have six kids and spending in the range of $400 weekly at least. It’s hard to keep track what with multiple stores (moishas shop rite butcher Costco and more)
Message taken. I’m better off staying home pesach.
Unfortunately I think the pesach cleaning and cooking standards have gotten so ridiculously impossible that people can’t handle them. So they go to programs which may not even be kosher….
I eat peanuts.
My kids eat peanuts
My husband eats peanuts
If my nephew eats peanuts he can die. Fast.
Gee… if anti vaxers hate vaccines so much, maybe they would agree to give one or two or even three… but why would they choose to give one for a disease that hasn’t been seen in the US for about 30 years?
Oh and Suzanne humphreys has a very interesting background… she was a standard run of the mill nephrologist working in a hospital getting a fat salary. She saw patient after patient have bad reactions to the typical flu shot given to hospital patients. Remember, vaccines are not tested for sick or pregnant- but they certainly give them the vaccines. Her patients (who probably had all kinds of kidney issues) would say, doctor, I was fine until that darn shot. This caused her to start looking into vaccines and reading up on the safety studies etc . To make a long story short, what she saw going on in the vaccine/medical industry so sickened her that she left her job, and became an anti vax investigator and spokesperson. Now she makes far less and gets destroyed by the medical establishment. Who would you trust, Suzanne or Paul profit, I mean Offit, who walked away with tens of millions from his rotavirus vaccine that he both created and voted to add to the childhood vaccine schedule.
Ok so polio went down in India. But polio like illnesses have been on the rise .
The prevailing theory as to how polio has been eradicated according to non vaxers is spelled out in Dr susan Humphrey’s book dissolving illusions. Basically, polio had always been a normal gut bacteria. It had never bothered anyone. When DDT was in widespread use all around the world, those areas saw the largest spikes in polio cases. People used DDT in their homes to kill disease spreading insects, the government sprayed public beaches with it when people were there. DDT has been thought to open up the lining of the intestines to allow bacteria through, which could go where they should not go. Among other things, the huge amount of children who removed their tonsils were at a higher risk of bulbar polio ( where the brain would get infected) due to the close proximity of the throat to the brain. In fact, polio has NOT been eradicated in India, the country that still has DDT in use, in spite of HUGE vaccination rate of polio- it is said that children there receive more than a dozen polio vaccines.
Furthermore- before the vaccine was invented, any time a child got any paralyzing illness, it was called POLIO. They didn’t send out labs to identify which bacteria had gotten into the spinal cord. In fact, many cases that were called polio were not confirmed ever. Nowadays we STILL have diseases that mimic polio, they just have fancy names like acute flaccid paralysis and transverse myelitis and more.
A perfectly healthy Jewish girl died last year from the the flu shot. I know because I davened for her…
So, basically out of the other hundreds of millions of people on the planet, mine are the ones who are disease vectors…. even with this latest outbreak in the US we only saw less than 100 cases. And if you think that the anti vaxers are the only ones who are capable of catching measles, we have problems. Two of my very own sister in laws who were fully vaccinated as children were told (one was told TWICE) that they needed another MMR. They were tested during pregnancy and surprise, the vaccine was either ineffective of worn off. The vaccine is quite imperfect and many people are not as immune as they think. Add to that number the twenty million undocumented immigrants . Add to that all the immunocompromised. And probably others I can’t rhink of. You should be surprised we haven’t had an outbreak sooner….
Seriously, you are comparing not getting a vaccine to my kid going to the store and buying a measles sandwich and feeding it to your immunocompromised child….
And just as some women have risk factors that make pregnancy dangerous and they don’t have children, so too some people have issues that make vaccines more dangerous for them (such as mthfr mutations a mitochondrial disorder which is genetic and quite common)
, or auto immune issues) Or siblings who were vaccine damaged and the parents don’t want to take the chance.
Am I the only one who gets bothered by comparisons that don’t make any sense?
the difference between cancer and vaccines is obvious , at least to me. Cancer the person is already ill and seeking treatment. It is also usually 100% fatal if untreated. Vaccines are given to PREVENT an illness, many of which are not fatal to the average healthy human. Quite different.
Any body who says anti vaxers shouldn’t have a choice is denying the very fundamental truth which is that vaccines are not 100% safe. Anyone who denies this is either uninformed, misinformed, or in extreme denial. The very inserts that come with vaccines as with any other medications has a list of possible side effects. It lists Common side effects (which would be mild like fever, rash, swelling at injection site) and then it also lists KNOWN severe reactions, which do include life threatening conditions in many vaccines.
Also just wanted to point out that even anti vaxers would say that not all vaccines are created equally. And saying so, not all illnesses are equally dangerous . So while they may choose to vaccinate for a circulating illness, they may feel safe choosing to decline vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases (HPV, HepB) or polio (which hasn’t been around in 30 years) but many are told that if you choose religious exemptions you cannot pick and choose vaccines it’s all or none.
I know exactly how science works . The people with the millions and billions pay scientists to run the study exactly how they want, to prove exactly what they want. The end.
Here are some quotes from a N.Y. Times article. The case turned on the proper interpretation of a provision of the law that bars ordinary lawsuits “if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.”
Justice Scalia acknowledged that “Congress could have more tersely and more clearly pre-empted design-defect claims.” But he said the meaning of the passage was not in doubt. “If a manufacturer could be held liable for failure to use a different design,” Justice Scalia wrote, “the word ‘unavoidable’ would do no work.”……
Justice Sotomayor, joined by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, said the majority opinion “disturbs the careful balance Congress struck between compensating vaccine-injured children and stabilizing the childhood vaccine market.”
Justice Sotomayor said she understood the word “unavoidable” differently in the context of the law than Justice Scalia did. She said it indicated that Congress must “have intended a vaccine manufacturer to demonstrate in each civil action that the particular side effects of a vaccine’s design were ‘unavoidable.’ ”….
The effect of Tuesday’s decision, Justice Sotomayor continued, was to leave “a regulatory vacuum in which no one ensures that vaccine manufacturers adequately take account of scientific and technological advancements when designing or distributing their products.”
In a final footnote, Justice Sotomayor wrote that a concern about an asserted link “between certain vaccines and autism spectrum disorders” appeared to “underlie the majority and concurring opinions in this case.”
Apparently even Supreme Court justices argue over the definition
There are tens of thousands of stories just like those. Those are just my own personal examples. In this so called religious “cult” are mothers whose infant babies started seizing immediately after vaccine. Babies who got high fever and died in their sleep two nights later. Moms who miscarried (of course coincidence) two days after a flu shot. (FYI the 2011 flu season when US recommended two flu shots for wine flu? Rates of miscarriage for 2 shots was over seven fold) . Moms who had normal walking talking babies who suddenly wouldn’t make eye contact and stopped talking. Of course, they’re all delusional and looking for scapegoats.
2cents, why don’t YOU tell me why there is a vaccine court, then??? Apparently vaccines are harmless…
You can explain all you want. When a one year old gets ill immediately after an MMR and a week later is diagnosed with kidney failure, doctor says coincidental. When a five year old gets some overdue vaccines and stops talking and eventually is diagnosed with autism, conincidence. I know both of those people. And both of their parents say it occurred because of the vaccine. But if doctors refuse to see the truth glaring at them, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
And for the record, those so called studies that supposedly demonstrated no connection between autism and vaccines?? It was only involving ONE vaccine (MMR) or ONE ingredient (Mercury) to date there have been no major study on the impact of dozens of vaccines , for example comparing a population of vaccinated vs unvaccinated. It’s the study we’re all waiting for. They won’t do it because it’s “unethical” to deprive children of vaccines. I’m sure we can find volunteers
None of the court cases were for so called “defects” in the product. Nowadays we don’t hear about “bad batches” although it has happened. They are for standard vaccines given to normal children or even adults which resulted in serious consequences
No, unavoidably unsafe means that there are inevitably some who will be harmed from vaccines. That’s why there is a vaccine injury compensation court created to begin with. And now there is vaers which is just a reporting system. So if even the government concedes there are people who can be harmed, major damage or death, why can’t it be logical to assume that others are harmed in mild way,Iike a lifelong auto immune illness or loss of ten IQ points.
Vaccine court has already shelled out 4B, and they are notoriously difficult. Anything that occurs after vaccination is “coincidence” and they Are constantly finding new ways to exclude illnesses caused by vaccines. And when you poison , yes, poison, an infant repeatedly without knowing the child’s ability to process those toxins or their immune ability to deal with the pathogens injected, you are setting up some children for real serious damage. I think the only reason that we as a nation do not see the damage clearly is because they poison them so darn young. Straight out of the womb, in the hospital, they’re already injecting them to protect them from an STD. I wish I was joking. We will never know if our children would have been smarter, healthier, or not had a disability god forbid. Because we poison them before they have any abilities we can measure. So probably most of the damage goes undetected. so hurrah no measles- but we have 101 other problems!!
Vaccine court records are SEALED and may not be shared or publicized. They don’t want the world knowing which damages were most definitely caused by vaccines- including almost 100 autistic cases in recent years (except autism is not allowed to be mentioned it’s taboo, they just mention all the other problems )
Go look up the famous case of Hannah Poling, daughter of a neurologist who became autistic after getting too many vaccines in one day.
When will all of you wake up? We have a new set of diseases that previous generations never had. We have CHRONIC illness and auto immune issues. We have increasing allergies autism ,adhd ,auto immune disorders of every kind, and increasing proof every day that this is all caused by the well intentioned but “unavoidably unsafe” (words of Supreme Court justice sotomayer) vaccines they insist on poking into our most vulnerable population in ever increasing numbers.
I know of one dentist in my community who seems to diagnose cavities six at a time…. happened to at least four people I know including myself. I went elsewhere and had none. Some dentists lie to keep busy. Make sure your dentist puts your teeth before his profit.
The “government” does not pay for medications. We the taxpayers, pay for them. And the people who run our government and their health offices are generally in a revolving door with big pharma.
I will, soon as you explain the rapid decrease in thyphoid, cholera, bubonic plague…
I didn’t say vaccines don’t work (they mostly do) but what’s the payoff?
And if William Thompson is saying that the government believes the vaccine program must be protected at all costs, that means you believe it is acceptable for them to lie to us and omit and mangle data and commit fraud, all to prevent disease. That you readily admit that and still choose to vaccinate is your choice. I just don’t have to agree with it.
Tell that to the thousands of families suffering from dealing with autism.
I don’t have to read the second half of his words, the first is damning enough. He’s saying that sorry, we lied to you, a disease which now damages one in 36 (up from one in 10,000) which we still continue to deny has been aggravated by the insane vaccine schedule, we hid the data. But hey, keep pumping that poison into your kids. It will only harm one in 36 kids. Are you believing this stuff??
Midwesterner- For the record, all the top grossing drugs on the market do not HEAL anything. Statins don’t heal high blood pressure and diabetic drugs don’t heal diabetes and anti depressant don’t heal depression and painkillers don’t heal pain. All of these are just bandaids. They only work so long as you take them. All of them have lists of side effects a mile long. Most of them give us an excuse to ignore our health (weight, stress, fitness, food choices) so our numbers looks good on paper while we continue to feel unwell. Many of those issues can be addressed with good old fashioned dieting and other natural approaches. Cinnamon and other supplements might lower blood sugar safely but your doctor is not allowed to prescribe it because it isn’t proven and metformin he can prescribe (even with lots of adverse effects) because the makers of metformin spent the millions in studies that no one will do for anything natural. You know why? Because you can’t patent nature. So even if it’s natural, safe and effective, if a real study hasn’t been done, it isn’t real to most of the medical world . This is modern medicine.
You say studies linking autism to vaccines doesn’t exist. William Thompson a former employee of the CDC says those studies do exist, and that he himself was complicit in one such study which proved the link and was subsequently revised and revised until the evidence was buried in the data. Our own government doesn’t want the truth coming to light to protect their beloved vaccine program. Vaccine companies surely wouldn’t allow a study that besmirched their golden products. That leaves it up to us, the consumer, to decide if we want to trust these products. Remember, science always follows money. Always. Studies rarely prove anything that will cause a loss to profits. The victor writes history. In this case, the money writes science.
Yes, profit is a good motivator to lie to the public
Take vioxx for example, the company memos indicated they knew it had a severe increase in heart attacks. It was only after half a million people got heart attacks that it was taken off the market. You can see how well the US Drug lords watch over us. Now they had to pay out billions in settlements, and they STILL made money on the drug. This is a company that currently makes vaccines for our Children. And u trust THOSE people with their studies??? Profit comes before people. Always.
A few years ago I was told my son may have pandas and when I looked into it I was bothered by two issues: 1. I hate antibiotics , I think they are a over used medicine that should have been reserved for emergency use only. They alter the entire microbiome of the body in ways we cannot fully appreciate yet. Possibly for life. 2. Many doctors out there don’t even believe it exists, it seems one expert is behind this epidemic of pandas.
If it existed it would be a very easy solution to years of pain and frustration for me.
I keep trying to throw out this useless brown garbage can but the trash collectors don’t want to take it 😩 ok seriously though, who left their brains at home the day this program was developed? Don’t they know New Yorkers are too busy and too short on space to create yet another trash receptacle in their faces? This one will go the way of the titanic… hope it happens soon.
When your cleaning help is increasing stress instead of reducing it, time to find someone else. Your paying the money- find someone who will do the job with a modicum or intelligence and neatness. Find someone new and efficient . Training is a pain but worth the time for good help.
Egged is a money making business. Mikvah is a non for profit service that the shul runs as a service to the community. My husband (and I) put in time for no compensation. Erev Chag expenses Are significantly higher than normal usage, and yes maybe it’s an opportunity to put away a few dollars for future large expenses. The last time my husband changed the hot water system (enough complaints about the showers running out of hot water) to the tune of $20,000… and yes, the shul got a slip and fall lawsuit once.
My husband runs a men’s Mikvah (volunteer) so I feel qualified to answer this. Normally the worker will wash the towels , as the shul owns four washers and dryers. Erev holiday towels get sent out (at a cost of over $1000) because the machines can’t wash quickly enough. Also more workers are needed because of the crush, to keep the place clean and to keep an eye on things. So while the cost is normally $5, holidays the charge is $8. Some may charge more, and yes some of it is probably going to the organization. But it’s not much. Mikvah’s do require a lot of maintenance and sometimes money is put aside for future expenses (costly plumbing repairs or new hardware etc.)