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Yichusdik, excellent comment. I would only argue that Muslims fear humiliation way more than death. They are completely obsessed with the symbolic.
BTGuy, I hope you agree that it’s disgusting. (Also, it’s Loeg Larash, since the dead people can’t.)
So for us it won’t work, since we don’t know what special action was done, hence ruining the plecebo effect. Hmm.
Maybe they held like the Shitto of Tzelem Elokim being free will, thereby dissipating upon death. Perhaps they even didn’t hold of the Shtikkel of Misa Mechaperes, since they figured that even Harugei Beis din don’t get buried in a regular cemetary.
Why would you want to take away jobs from those poor peasants?
Don’t use until then. Do you have a cold? Take things that soothe the throat, like hot tea with honey.
Because it is not a Kasha according to the Ramban. So, if Rashi holds that even married women were counted, then perhaps he wasn’t going with this Medrash.
Real, that part was obvious. What was the Hameivin Yavin about, though?
I understood the whole thing up until “Hameivin Yavin”.
Shtiky, I don’t think you need to look too far to find that the children of a daughter are not Misyaches to their mother’s family. A girl marries out. That’s the way it is in all family listings in the Torah.
Does Rashi bring the Medrash that Asnat was the daughter of Dina? Perhaps he is simply disregarding that.
feivel, did you turn in your magnetic card?
And what about the RuffRuff subtitle!?
A helicopter will cost you a lot of fuel. I’d suggest using a blimp. Finding parking might be a bit of a challenge.
I can’t respond unless I read the whole thread. The exception is the revived ancient conversations. In the kind-people-only thread there were several comments that were oblivious to the updates, mentioned opinions, and even the whole OP.
Popa, that’s the Kuntz? Let me see you get from New Jersey to Brooklyn without paying toll (or a fine).
Do you know who wrote this?
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Sam2, there might be conflicting reports as to his Talmidim, but where do you find a different story than that of the Gemara?
BTGuy,
To serve that purpose there is a great book, Jewish and Christian Ethics, by Rabbi Eliyahu ben Amozegh. It goes through many of their ideas and shows from where they originated and how they are actually corruptions.
Once we’re dealing with old accounts, how about taking away that horrible subtitle from RuffRuff?
I don’t have practical advice for you. However, a general attitude that can help is not to classify them as another type of person. There is no Chiyuv to be Frum. There is a Mitzva to don Teffilin, to keep Shabbos, Kashrus, Succah, Tzeddaka, Krias Shema and so on.
You don’t have to try to make them ‘Frum’. They already are full fledged Yidden. You can convey to them this outlook that they never ‘left’, they merely slowed, or even stopped doing several details. In this vein, they can make Brachos when eating at your table, or Daven, make Kiddush, shake Lulav, and anything else. They don’t need to feel threatened, since they aren’t making a statement of becoming Frum.
I was talking about WeFightTickets. I belive their number is 212-666-1234
Reccomend? They stick their card into my car almost every day. You’re welcome to take it.
I actually once used them. It didn’t work. They might be great but perhaps the cop was even greater, in my case. Either way, they are very nice people so you can give’em a call.
Change that to “sulk”.
In the New Testament it openly calls him a god, son of god and messiah in one (in John) and ordinary Christians the world over pray to him as their “lord” regularly.
You can argue, though, that it is not Avoda Zara. Tosafos in Sanhedrin seems to say that even though when they mention G-d, they are referring to Oisoi, they mean the One that made the heavens and earth. This means that although their belief is Kfira as to the who Hakadosh Bauch Hu is, nevertheless, it still is not Avoda Zara.
First of all, please be careful with details. This is not a live chat. Whatever gets put up here is here to stay (until someone decides to take it down).
Now, it seems to me that many people have this attitude that an abuser is a sort of humanoid being that is born to punch. However, as Cheftza pointed out, a good reading and following of your story shows that you are married for at least seven years, and the situation deteriorated over the past two years. You mention other factors as well.
It is important that you got in touch with whomever you did, and hopefully things will Bezras Hashem improve greatly. The point I want to make is that you shouldn’t think of him as a monster. What drives a woman to sully in bed on Shabbos noon, drives a man to become vicious. It is obvious that a build up of tensions of two years (at least), drove him insane.
Hashem said to Adam, ???? ??? ???? ?????. The Medrash asks that we don’t find that Chava told Adam anything. The Medrash explains that she was about to cry. From this Medrash you can gain an understanding of how deep a wife can get into her husbands psyche, with subtle nags and whimpers. The immense pressure put on Adam by the fact that he is about to make her cry made him sin. And that is without having an internal Yetzer Hara. Here too, don’t underestimate the effect of the home atmosphere on his inner turmoil.
Just keep in mind that the situation is far from too far. And as essy8 said, don’t let the negative and scary premonitions discourage you. Most people attribute their own stories to everybody else. There is no reason to think that you are living someone else’s life story.
Tetramule = Merkava (medrash)
Coffee, Yaakov was telling him why he is not fit for Bechora, Kehuna and Malchus.
So maybe the bees want to spray themselves with Raid.
Shtickey, the Ramban there points to the Pasuk that says explicitly that the count is besides for their wives.
Rashi asks about the Te’umos and answers that the Te’umos must have died. Rashi obviously learned in the words, ???? ??? ??? ????, that we are not counting the wives they got from the local population. Therefore, the Te’umos should be counted. Yosef, however, did not get sold along with a Te’uma, and perhaps Rashi is going with the Medrash that Asnat was Potifars daughter, or as you said, she died, too.
Let’s not lose focus. The reason I’m saying that it was consistently harsh under Arab rule is a response to what you say that it would have been fine to live under them, in Eretz Yisroel. Even if the Christians were worse that doesn’t change my point that it was not tollerable and stable under the Arabs. Besides, bringing up a certain events that stand out doesn’t either help. Since my point is to judge what it would have like, we should look at the recent trend.
Now to your other point. Since you are discussing what it would have been like in Eretz Yisroel it seems like you are taking for granted that Jews would inhabit the land to a noticeable degree, and that it won’t be considered Ola Bachoma. So we agree on that one. Yet, you still say that it is Assur Gammur to have the land given to you by legal means? Which Shvua is that going against?
By the way, do you really think Israelis are less safe now, in Eretz Yisroel, than they were in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, or Russia and Poland?
Moi, why do you say that? I haven’t posted there in years. Very seldomly do I glance at that site — perhaps twice a year.
The songs that just happen to be made up by a Jew can also be goyish.
Gavra, since you like talking in extremes, are you telling me that before giving a haggard pauper your hard earned quarter, you’ll hire a private investigator to check if he ever took a car service when he could have braved a trudge in the snow!?
You are leading out of the area that we are arguing about.
I’m not really advocating Zionism or Zionists. I just don’t think it’s fair to say that everything would have been fine and dandy under Arab rule. Neither am I sure that the 2 Shvuos were breached.
Had a group of Frum, sincere people been the ones to try and legally gain the land, I’m pretty sure that all Rabbonim would have enthusiastically backed them.
What’s wrong with Chazal’s idea? They should marry Frei boys and make them Frum!
I was never promised anything, spoken or not, for being Frum. In fact, I was never instructed to be Frum. I was told to learn, Daven and be an Ehrliche Yid, though.
Emunah, your job as the one with the money is to simply give Tzaddaka, not being Mechanech Aniyim.
There is extra Schar for what your money achieved. That is what you don’t get when you give a fraud.
Where are the Jews of Saudi Arabia? Did they migrate? No. They were killed. Read up.
You are bringing up a specific large event of which you don’t know of an Arabian counterpart. Also, you are bringing up events from long ago.
This is not a contest of who is more capable of inflicting harm. The idea is that you are saying it would be just fine living under Arab rule. The problems with that statement are:
Arabs themselves don’t live peacefully under Arab rule.
Arabs have consistantly mistreated Jews.
Arab mistreatment was more fatal. The pogroms usually did not wipe out a whole town.
In the recent history until the Holocaust, which the Arabs backed, there was more aggression under the Arabs.
The trend of recent history is what counts, since that is that is the time that we are living in. The holocaust didn’t happen every ten years, but Arab mistreatment was consistent.
And finally, I don’t care if it was worse under the Christians. I’m not advocating living under Christian rule. Aren’t we talking about Jewish rule?
You are just unaware of what other people went through. True, my grandparents in Russia and Germany did not suffer under the Arabs. Neither did the Arabian Jews suffer under the Germans.
Arabs committed genocide on whole communities. That is not a pogrom, that is Tach v’Tat.
Anyhow, no difference who’s troubles where worse. It was never great under the Arabs, and that’s what counts. It is not even good now, for Arabs. It is a big mistake to think it would have been good for us under them.
Sushe, that was the case in 1492, and perhaps another generation thereafter. Since the Age of Enlightenment of western Europe Jews lived in much better conditions then their brothers in the Arab countries. That is why they couldn’t believe that the Holocaust would happen.
In unenlightened Russia and Poland there were pogroms throughout the years, and the same was true in the Arab lands. You can Google “Iraqi kristallnacht”. Also read the book “From Time Immemorial” by Joan Peters for a better understanding of what really transpired and who lived in the land.
Besides for all that, it is too late. The Ottoman Empire no longer exists. The Brits conquered the land. It would not have belonged to the Turks rather than the Zionists, it would have gone straight to the Arabs — the ones that the Ohr Hachaim Hakadosh says are worse than the Christians.
Mytake said something very true. Very often, our judgement is based on self-taught, untested, trait-testing techniques, which are more likely xenophobic and racial biases.
The Gemara says that the fakes save us from the harsh Din of not giving. Because of the fakes, we can always say that we thought this particular collector was a fake.
If they do us such a service, don’t they deserve at least a quarter?
Avi, that point is debatable. The Arabs were responding to the Zionists before the state was established.
What is true is that the last peaceful years amongst Muslims was 400 years ago. It was never great.
It was not good under the Turks and it would not have been good and inhabitable now either under, Arab rule. They are killing Arabs today, not to mention Christians. To think that Jews would do better, is ludicrous.
He lost time in the time machine.
It’s not in Yiddish, it’s in “Der Yid”ish.
Popa, thanks!
Whenever you’re feeling low, just Google Translate a page of a Sefer.
1) Those that hold that it is tied to how we were treated look at the 3 Shvuos like the rules of Galus. If part is not kept, the other part falls away, as well. I personally would not subscribe to this opinion, but there were those that held this way, and I can not mock it.
2) The legal ruler of the land was the League of Nations (UN wasn’t invented yet) and that’s what counts. Rav Nachman in Eizehu Neshech had people work for him, against their will, because of the king’s law. I never heard of a Halacha that you must listen to every and any goy. You’re lucky no goy ever told you to jump in the lake — because, don’t forget, it is a Yehoreg v’Al Yaavor!
Besides, you are making a very big mistake by thinking that the land was full of Arabs before Jews came. Arabs came there because of the Jews, because of job opportunities. That is why they settled near Jewish towns.
3) Perhaps.
A moderator would have to do it for you. When you are creating your account then you probably have more options.