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mop, I agree serious discussion never involves debate, and rational people when pointed out the flaws in their opinion dont discuss either.
Mop we dont!
Many don’t buy in to the “age gap theory” or at best view it as (a minor) part of the problem.
consider the following:
1) why can’t they provide real numbers it cant be that hard to ask a few schools to anonymously report how many students are in their graduating classes. We aren’t stupid we can handle numbers they claim a 4% growth rate where did this number come from? Ami magazine ran a several page “expose” on the “age gap” Not one real number was thrown out just colorful bubbles demonstrating a growth rate several magnitudes higher than any imagined by “age gap” proponents
2)Even Accepting their numbers the problem only holds true if ALL boys marry girls 3 years younger. If as little as 11% marry girls their age or older there is no “age gap” If less than that marry girls their age or older or girls a little younger than themselves the “age gap” would become an even more minor problem. Ask around this is certainly the case.
3) The shidduch process in our community works something like this: shadchan suggests girl, boy’s side looks into her, Boys side agrees, girls side looks in and agrees, they date, get engaged and married. Asking around the problem in the chain is that girls arent getting enough dates. (Generally, admitedly I dont have real data to back up this anecdotal evidence but hey neither do the :age gap” proponents).
Now going back to the numbers pushed by the “age gap” people assuming a 4% growth rate, that means 112.5 23 year olds are trying to marry 100 20 year old girls. The average guy dates 3 girls (some less some mouch more) that means 112.5 guys go on 337.5 dates. That is more than enough dates for all 100 girls. Yet the gilrs who arent getting married arent getting dates either. This cant be explained by the “age gap” at all
Why “Jewish” What is it really?May 2, 2013 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm in reply to: MUST READ and PASS ALONGóSpina Bifida, Pregnancy and Nutrition #951000
nfgo3 the source of the post is irrelevant. It is the information itself that is importnat. As the Rambam says “ushma haemes mimi sheomro.”
All medical associations are in agreement that folic acid decreases the risk of spina bifida. The generally recommended dose is 0.4 mg for average woman. Women who are at increased risk (older, have had affected child) should take 4.0 mg.
It is important for women of child bearing age to take this if their is a chance of them getting pregnant since the benefits are within the first 28 days (this is when the neural tube closes). For many women, beginning taking the supplements once they find out is too late.
I’ve done it (well helped) what would you like to know?
Sam 2 and Halevai,
even if the correct girsa is eiruv tavshilin, it isn’t a stretch to accept that the avos observed Rosh hashana, and made erev tavshilin.
Keep in mind particulars of erev tavshilin are learnt from psukim in nechemiah about R”H.
Halevai thank you for proving my point, obviously that gemara isnt literal. No, the gemara is not saying Hashem LITERALLY wears tfilin. According to the Rambam (and most Rishonim) saying that Gemara is literal is kefira, since Hashem doesnt have a head nor arm, thus He can’t literally be wearing tefilin.
On the other hand to say the Avos literally wore tefilin is not kefira, though it may be silly.
If you are saying that the two gemaras are similar in that both cases aren’t literally talking about wearing tefilin, and the Avos did not literally wear tefilin, thus did not literally keep 613 mitzvos, then we are in full agreement.
Otherwise while we can disagree about tefilin (ie you can say they did literaly wore tefilin) we can move on to other mitzvos like zechiras amalek which they can not have literally kept.
Halevai, its a yes or no question. I’ll take your response as a yes. Certainly not impossible but strange to say it said “shema yisroel…” I wonder if avrohom ever wondered who yisroel was. (note: if it didn’t say shema it isn’t Tefilin in which case your answer would be no, “accomplish in another way” means he didn’t wear Tefilin. If I accomplish Tefilin by meditating with sticks or tantzing ah kezatzke that may be beutiful but it isn’t Tefilin)
Ok next this one is harder, was he mikayem zechiras amalek. Yes or no?
(only 611 to go)
Halevai what you are saying is nonsense.
simple question: Did Avrohom Avinu wear tefilin? it is a yes or no question.April 25, 2013 1:25 am at 1:25 am in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146986
I know a frei yid who has served as a mashgiach to make milk chalav yisroel when the regular mashgiach couldnt make it.
Halevai so you are saying the avos didnt keep the torah. They can meditate with sticks fun heint biz morgen, thats not wearing tefilin.
Keeping “secrets of the torah” is beautiful but meaningless (to us).
They either wore tefilin or didn’t, and sticks aren’t tefilin.
DR, you are making an assumption ” you can basically get the same product”. You may think it us the same, I do too. But to them it is not the same. Period. This is the answerApril 24, 2013 10:42 am at 10:42 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947996
Big deal,That was fun. Its hard to defend something so nutty but I admire your attempt.
All the bestApril 24, 2013 2:47 am at 2:47 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947993
It is solely because of the NRA that this bill didn’t get passed. They have the blood of the next innocent children on their hands. A majority of the US supported the bill, it passed the house a majority of senators did, even they themselves supported it a few years back. Yet here we are EXACTLY where we were Dec 13. After every shooting the slight silver lining is that it pushes people to acknowledge we have a problem, and to start fixing it would be closing a loophole that allows ANYBODY to get a gun.
Also I’m not going after them, they are thoroughly evil people who will one day have to answer for any deaths legislation theyve blocked could have prevented, but I support their right to be evilApril 24, 2013 1:24 am at 1:24 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947990
wikipedia has a category “gangs in europe”
You can read about gangs in each country we’ve spoken of.April 24, 2013 12:58 am at 12:58 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947988
No gangs in Europe? You have got to be kidding their inner cities look the same as ours. (google gangs in europe)
I’d like to think our legal system is more similar to England and France than Russia. If we get our act together their is no reason we cant achieve homicide rates that are closer to theirsApril 24, 2013 12:55 am at 12:55 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947987
Ok lets start by taking back the contry from the corrupt lobbyists such as the NRA.
Let me tell you a story that will really make you mad, many americans where getting shot, much more than any civilized country. Finnaly the american public had enough and most of them said it is time we make sure we stop selling guns to bad guys. The NRA once supported this idea, but have since become more power hungry and have decided to stop it. They bought off politicians and in spite of the country’s best interests, and in spite of a majority of the senate supporting the bill it failed.
You say the law would place “restrictions on normal law abiding citizens who would actually go through the background check.” This is laughable if the person is normal and law-abiding then they pass the background check. If they dont pass it is either because they aren’t normal or law abiding.April 23, 2013 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947984
I’m sorry I see how that was confusing. There are two distinct classes of homicides in my mind and i’m sure you’d agree since it was you who first identified 1 of those subsets.
There is one group of gang related these are mostly (all?) with illegal guns. You indicated that this accounts for less than half to half of all homicides. These would probably not be limited by background checks. These are a result of deep cultural norms and societies with values completly different than our own. These (the pereptrators and victims)are generally people who are part of that culture/society with little to no hope of breaking free solving this problem will take a lot more than gun control laws. I dont quite get why they should be excluded from US stats but not foreign stats. again though even if we did you still have to fudge the numbers to make them close.
There is another larger group which includes most other homicides. These would be drasticly reduced by preventing the wrong people from getting their hands on guns. If we enforce are current laws we wouldbe sitting ducks for mentally unstable people who want to gun down innocents. They cant just walk into a gun shop and buy a gun (B”H) but they can take advantage of a gun show sized loophole and buy as many guns as they can carry no questions asked.
Neither of these groups are a result of culture as in TV/movies (which is what I assumed you meant when you first brought up culture way back when)April 23, 2013 8:58 pm at 8:58 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947982
Nobody is taking away weapons. Nobody. Nobody.
First of all you provided the numbers and no I did not say 50% of murders are illegal weapons. But it doesnt matter.
You can buy all the weapons you want as long as you pass a background check. Using your analogy, it would probably be a great step towards disarming the middle east (Not that I believe that is a good or plausible idea, im just following your anaolgy through)if the world began a policy that for now on if a middle eastern country wants to buy a weapon, they can’t have had a history of mental illness etc. Who would oppose such a policy?
They don’t mean literary kol hatorah kula,
did he write a sefer Torah?
Was he mekayem michiyas amalek? zechiras amalek?
Was he mikayem sipur yetziyas Mitzrayim?
At any rate your statement “he studied the same torah we have nowadays! the same gemara the same chumash” Cannot be correct, as you conceded in your second comment “chumash must have been a little different”April 23, 2013 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947980
I wasnt being sarcastic suicide has a lot offactors involved. Though several studies have shown that making barriers to suicide prevents them from occuring (this is usuallyin the context of barriers on bridges/ buidlings).
I dont mean dont care about, just that they are not my number one concern. Those are deeper problems often involving cultures with no way out. As you have mentined in the past the guns involved in these incidents are generally illegal and all the background checks in the world wouldnt help.
However your research proves my case a resounding 70-50% of homicides in the US are NOT gang related! In other words with the right regulation these are the ones we can prevent (again, granted not all of them). That is a lot of homicide even the lower edge of that range is still a higher rate of homicide than any of the countries you have brought up in the course of this conversation (France, England, Norway, and Spain) I would love to emulate their homicide rates.
Japan btw has a much much much more violent TV/movie culture. and a much lower homicide rate.April 23, 2013 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146973
DY, according to you and many poskim it is not subject to changeAnd that us fine I rely in them too. Even R’ shechter relies on them and yang moche when the hashgacha he copaskens for allows it.
(there are other things as well)April 23, 2013 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146972
Benign, thanks I haven’t heard from him in awhile and missed a pointApril 23, 2013 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947978
I’m sorry I’m supposed to accept your data-less assertations while you deny factual data.?Both France and England have lower homicide rates than we do (about 4 times lower).
(again in spite if same violent movies/tv).
You are right about suicide though, for example Japan has very strict gun regulation (and thus a very low homicide rate) but a very high suicide rate due to a bizzare cultural thing.April 23, 2013 1:21 pm at 1:21 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146965
Pba, the rov tells you the status of the cow. Assuming rov cows (ie more than half) are kosher, each individual cow’s milk is kosher and doesn’t require any bitul
If less than rov cows are kosher then each individual cow is assumed treifa unless you check.
The gemara says rov cows are kosher, some poskim feel thus metzius has changed and currently rov cows are treifa.
In other words if 14% have this problem, each cow is assumed to be from 86% non stapled and all milk is fine. However if 51% are stapled we MAY have a problemApril 23, 2013 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146963
I think the issue is the metzius MAY have changed. The gemara assumes rov cows are kosher. I don’t know remember the technical details but R’ shechter’s holds this to no longer be true and that rov cows are treifa. Therfore every cow would be assumed to be a treifa unless checked, thus making all milk treif unless came from a cow that was checked and found to be kasher.April 23, 2013 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947976
The homicide rate in both England and France are lower. I know that you don’t believe it but that doesn’t make it less true.
I’m not saying there is a direct link beteen gun control and murder, there is a general trend though.
Ths law would have been good for the country. Most citizens supported it and even most senators. It was the nra who turned it down.
Gang violence is lower on my concern list, since “innocents” aren’t as affected. I want to limit mass shootings, domestic disputes and suicides all of which background cgecks and waiting periods would help.
Would he have used bombs? Who knows probably not. Countries with limited gun ownership don’t have an epidimic of bombings.April 23, 2013 2:14 am at 2:14 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947973
1) Even if that would work (it wouldnt as ive pointed out several times europe and Canada have the same violent movies and TV).
Do you view the “right to bear arms” as more important than free speech?
2) I suppose i agree. I think this law would have saved lives.
4) Ca in of itself doesnt prove. it but comparing it to the states with looser restrictions and more homicdes does.
BTw read up on australia, they have a resounding success story with gun control
5) The law the NRA turned down explicitly banned such a database.
I second the thanks to the modsApril 23, 2013 1:43 am at 1:43 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947970
Many with intent to kill will kill without a a gun. But many more will not. and of those who do, more victims will survive a stabbinf and there will be less innocent bystanders.
For example if Adam Lanza did not have access to a gun. would he have gone through the school stabbing? Maybe maybe not. If he had though what would the outcome be? On the same day as Sandy Hook, in china a mass stabbing took place.
Here are the results:
Sandy Hook: dead 28, injured 2
chenpeng: dead 0, injured 24April 22, 2013 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146947
i’m not sure what you mean by “worse.” If you had milk that you KNEW was froma treifa cow (say you shechted it right after milking it and found it to be a treifa) then it would be treated a any treif milk and requires 60 to be mevatel.
If you dont know the status of the cow (which presumably is usually the case as when you walk into your local grocery and pick up some milk there is no way you can know what the status of the cow is) The gemara says that rov cows are not treifa. Therfore every living cow can be assumed to be a member of that rov and all milk is Kosher.
This is the halacha as codified and according to most poskim is equally applicable today.April 22, 2013 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146945
I dont think so, and even he holds there are tzdadim lehakel. Keep in mind he is one of the OU’s poskim and would obviously leave if he felt he was certifying treif milk.
R’ Reisman on the other hand is more chamur in this sense as he really feels there is little room for heter in regard to chalav stam due to this concern. i have heard him on more than one occasion viewing it as triefus gamur due to the above mentioned concern.He has said to avoid keilim as well for this reason.
Although again R’ Belsky holds it is fine. I dont know the details of the metzeius.April 22, 2013 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146942
daniela, Not quite when combining liquids we always need 60 times (if they are the same min (regardless of how you define “min” treif and kosher cow milk is certainly the same min) then it is “only” derabanan while deoraisa would be batul by simple majority)
With milk majority we rely on is different. How can we ever drink milk, maybe the cow is a treifa? The gemara addresses this and says Most cows (simple majority not 60 times) are not treifa. Therfore each cow that is milked can be assumed to not be a treifa.
(There are those such as R’ Hershel sShachter who hold this rov to no longer hold true in the US and therfore avoid milk altogether. Others such as R’ Reisman hold this is an issue among cows in general due to their eating habits/ various treatments they undergo, however cy cows are fed a different diet and thus are kosher. R’ Belsky holds this isnt an issue at all)April 22, 2013 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947968
So in canada (which oviously has a similar culture to ours) strict gun control helps. Their homicde rate as youve correctly pointed out is lower than ours (1.6 vs 4.8).
The other 70% kill with any weapon to get their hand on, but it is more difficult to kill, reflected in their lower homicide rate.
(again keep in mind guns arent just a problem in the number of people they kill, they also cause worse injuries than say knives and to more people)
A longer reply to your 6 outlined points is awaiting moderationApril 22, 2013 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146939
relying on majority isnt a leniency it is basic halacha.
(Of course if a majority of milking cows are in fact treifa that is another story)April 22, 2013 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947966
1) So would you support a ban on selling guns to people involved with “involved somehow in a violent culture thing be it vidoes and games, religious fanatics, or disallusioned military nincompoops” (more theoretical than practical, supposing he mentioned it to the seller)?
2) agreed. Though I cant think of a private citizens way to help solve the madness
3) None of these mass shootings were commited by illegal immigrants. So while this may be an important point, it is entirely irelevant to the subject at hand.
4) California proves it DOES work but is not perfect. I’m not looking for a perfect solution (yet).
5) A background check on all gun purchases would not be a restriction on any leagl guns. It would prevent crazies in the future from purchasing a gun no questions asked.
6) Probably, the problem is some people are unwilling to listen to reason. The NRA had supported universal background checks. There was nothing controversial in this bill. Yet the NRA purchased senators blocking oppostion in spite of the fact that a majority of the senate voted in favor of the bill.April 22, 2013 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947965
in the post that has yet to go up do you answer my question
“Are you ok with anybody getting a gun no questions asked?” I think it is an important question.
In other words do you agree with Lapierre in 99′ or 2013?April 22, 2013 4:33 pm at 4:33 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947963
that and the fact that European countries and Canada have the same TV/movies we do yet multiple times lower homicide rates.
Even if they are underreported. Several times? The countries you brought up (APain and Norway) have 6-8 times lower homicide rates. Even if the are grossly underrepresented and are in actually twice as high. They are still3-4 times lowerApril 22, 2013 3:41 pm at 3:41 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947959
So where is the line drawn?
Are you ok with anybody getting a gun no questions asked?
Again if course the govt isn’t perfect. Far from it. That is not a reason to not try what has worked in other countries. We have an epidemic. Something MUST be done. And no it has nothing to do with culture.
Pba. Where can the article be found?April 22, 2013 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm in reply to: Weird, but I don't know if this has any halachic implication #1146921
Milk in the us does not need a hashgacha (unless you’re looking for cy obviously). The supplements are batul.April 22, 2013 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947954
You’re right it probably won’t prevent gang violence. Though it proabably would prevent the next mass shooting, many cases of domestic violence, and many suicides. I don’t think if it won’t prevent all homicides its not worth trying. It’s time the us stops ranking along with third world countries in this regard.April 22, 2013 3:41 am at 3:41 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947952
homicide is homicide. There is only one way to define it. A hate crime that kills people is homicide abortion is not. Denying the statistics wont make them go away.
OK so lets pretend California’s gun laws are too strict and they’d be better off backing up a bit to a nice middle number. They are still better off thanalthe states I mentioned plus 6 others who have weaker gun control laws.April 22, 2013 1:37 am at 1:37 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947950
Are you saying the homicides are falsely reported. Which way are the US over reporting for some reason? Are forign countries underreporting? Why dont the repressive countries underreport as well?
Fine lets pretend you are correct, lets examine the data that you clim will make you happy
California does not have the highest homicde rate in the country. It is 17th (Probably thanks to its strict gun laws). Louisiana is the state with the highest rate and it has among the waekest gun control laws (Ithas a brady score of 2/100). in fact of the 10 worst homicide states (LA, MD, MO, SC, NV, NM, MI, TN, MS & AZ) 8!! Had a Brady campaign score of 10 or lower making them among the least restrictive states in the country.
How would his Rav know?
Ah you must mean check with his boss. Ok efsher. Though he does not say that. He must assume we are dealing with grownups
I was wondering how much the OP thought should be lost for a minhag.
For a mitzvas Asei deoraisa(!) the MOST a person has to lose is a chomesh (1/5).
If youre not equating (and you shoudnt since shabbos and sefira arent similar) why mention irrelevant examples
Poskim HAVE decided R’ Moshe allows shaving for parnassa in two tshuvas one in O”CH 4 other in the O”Ch in chelek tes (which I assume is 5)
Toi, that is correct.
My question was regarding shaving during sefira (as was the op’s)
Are you saying sefira is as chamur as chilul shabbos?
how much money do you think a person would have to sacrifice to avoid shaving during sefira? Half his income? 3/4? All of it?April 21, 2013 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947948
YES!!! I think you finnaly nailed it (partially)
“but it would make sense if they were far more available in the us and it is.” Proabbly correct. This is why we have to make getting guns harder. Increase background checks. (something the NRA supported a few years ago).
It is easier to kill with a gun (suicide too which we havent discussed yet, but is important to mention as well). getting rid of guns makes it harder (though not impossible, we have addresssed this) to kill.
Additionally keep in mind as ive mentioned to PBA guns are worse than other weopns becuase when they dont kill they injure MORE people and with MORE SEVERE injuries. compare the knife attack in china to the massacre in Sandy HOok which occured on the same day.
a few other quibbles:
“If you want an accurate study you need to go to an area where all crime is classified by the same group on the same standards.”
The data was compiled by a UN office.
“Come up with something decent without taking away my 2nd ammendment. “
background checks dont take away your second ammendment. The amendment calls for “well regulated”
(as an aside for almost the first 200 years of its existence has been understood as applying to militias and not individuals but this is a beside the point since it doesnt matter what the was meant/understood. the supreme court recently read it as applying to indivduals, so until we can replace the current justices with ORIGINALISTS ūüôā there is no point discussing this established fact.)
“Im saying i dont know if homicide is greater in the us.”
“Do the research.”
I haveApril 21, 2013 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947945
So when numbers prove you wrong you deny them?
Late term abortion is illegal in Norway and more limited in spain than in the US. Thus it cant explain why the homicide rate is 6-8 times higher in the US than in those countries.
Do you ave any other thoughts as to why the homicide rate is so much higher in the Us? Are you saying it isnt?
While you are thinking about that consider this, guns arent used for abortions why is the firearm-related death so much highier in the US?April 21, 2013 11:41 am at 11:41 am in reply to: Obama is crying because his gun law didn't get passed #947942
nice try the numbers are from UN office on drug and crime. I dont think dont think they consider abortion.
Besdies guns aren’t used for abortions so this point is entirely irrelevant.
here is where it gets better Late term abortion is illegal in Norway! In Spain it is legal for medical reasons only. In the US only 22 states have restrictions on late term abortion. 28 (more than half the country!)do not.
This was a nice try, but once again you will have to come up with a real reson why the gun violence rate (or homicde rate if you accept PBa’s point) is so much higher in the US. It is not (solely) due to TV/Movies. Nor is it as a result of abortion.
(Interestingly if you are into the yeshivish freakanomics, he argues that the legalization of abortion in the US actually DECREASED the violent crime rate.)