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ChiefShmerel: I’m born and bred Yeshivish and I first heard the term in the coffee room here (years ago). I don’t ever remember hearing it used in real life.
Being an Oved Hashem with good Middos is exquisitely describing and impeccably depicting being Yeshivish. It’s virtually synonymous.
Simcha: Your poisoned into thinking that Daati Leumi and Modern Orthodox are just normal variations of Judaism or simply another shitta, like Beis Shamai v Beis Hillel or Rav Yisroel Salanter v Rav Chaim Ozer. But that is far from the case. DL and MO, while certainly not open apikorsos ( are at its core identifying “cause c�l�bre” deviations from normative Judaism.
My earlier point was not every so-called shitta is legitimate. Just like Conservative and Reform aren’t legitimate shittas, so, too, Zionism isn’t a legitimate shitta. I wasn’t comparing DL to Conservative/Reform; I was pointing out by example that not ever shitta is legit.
Very simple. Normal people don’t use the term Harry. It’s used by people who think highly of themselves and consider themselves to be big shots. And it isn’t used that often in common usage. And when it is, it isn’t necessarily only used regarding newly Yeshivish.
In short, it isn’t justifiable; and it isn’t common.
Simcha613: Do you envy the din vecheshbon of someone who can be Motzi la’az so publicly on the entire Masorti/Conservative/Reform tzibur, including rabbanim, dayanim, and talmidei chachanim?
Do you hope they are able to do teshuva before that time comes, but considering the amount of genuine mechila they will need, it’s will be a monumental achievement?
I’ll tell you one thing; better a three day lag due to the limitations of the moderators, than a completely uncensored forum where everything is immediately posted.
Perfect.
He writes “he should
shout out to HaKadosh Baruch Hu”.He does NOT write that he should wage a war against the Arabs to take the land.
He writes to daven. Not to fight. He writes ask Hashem to intervene. He does not write that man should take the matter into his own physical hands.
Thank you for sharing this important point.
Ysiegel:
I’d be very interested in hearing the rest of your take.
Thank you
LuckyStrike: The figures you quoted for the IDF OTD rate is an underestimate. The correct figure is r’l higher.
What’s a “Chareidi Godol”? That’s the same thing as referring to a “Jewish Godol”. Both are redundant, as there’s no other kind of Godol.
He owns the house. He doesn’t need any other justification.
DaMoshe: Baruch Hashem I’m thrilled that you’ve seen the light and you became a supporter of HaGaon HaRav Eleazar Mann Shach zt’l and shared some of his thoughts. I’m sure you’ll just as much appreciate a few more thoughts from Rav Shach.
Rav Shach said that secular Israelis are “breeders of rabbits and pigs” who did not “know what Yom Kippur is.”
Rav Shach said places like Yeshiva University promoting a fusion of Torah with secular studies are “an absolute disaster,” warning that they posed a threat to the endurance of authentic Judaism.
Rav Shach rejected the Religious Zionist movement, viewing it as a secular ideology cloaked in religious garb. He criticized the movement for attempting to merge Jewish religious identity with nationalist aspirations, which undermined the sanctity of Torah. He related that the Religious Zionists had adopted a secular messianism, attempting to solve the “Jewish Problem” through human means rather than divine intervention.
Besides being a journalist, isn’t he also a Rebbi for kids in some elementary school?
Square, you make clear Chareidim are terrible people.
I’m sure you advocate that they be placed into Concentration Camps and forced to wear a Yellow Star, to keep them away from good people like yourself and others.
Kosovo, which is legally part of Serbia, is occupied by foreign forces.
Some people call Texas as the Occupied Mexican Territory.
Just to get into the spirit of CR, as you describe it above, if you’re non-Orthodox like none2.0 and GadolHadofi, the answer to the question at the end of your OP is they make no bracha at all.
The Czarist Russian army also had a Chareidi/Jewish division.
The IDF violates Torah laws on a daily basis.
Now you understand why the Gedolim shlita banned the Internet.
There’s no kashering neveilus.
You should never cast aspersions on a Befeirushe Artscroll.
I still call Western Ukraine (the Carpathian Ruthenia region) as Occupied Northeastern Hungary.
What’s so important that Jews constitute a majority?
Is anyone here familiar with the migration trajectory of Ashkenazim, Sephardim, etc.? As in, which came from Eretz Yisroel, which from Bavel, etc. And where the separation formed between Ashkenazim, Sephardim, and others.
Of course Ashkenazim and Sephardim aren’t the only groups. There’s the Teimanim, Italkim, Mizrachim, etc., who contrary to some popular thought are not Sephardim.
The Sephardim, of course, are those descending from the Spanish peninsula (Spain, Portugal), hence the name. Which is in Europe, so someone’s earlier comment questioning European influence upon Sephardim doesn’t make much sense.
ZSK: A large portion, indeed likely well over a majority, of current fully Torah observant Sephardim, are religiously observant under Ashkenazic influence. This includes them (or their parents/grandparents) having attended Ashkenazic Yeshivos, etc. A lot of this is the result of the Ashkenazic Torah world having strongly helped their Sephardic brethren remain strongly Torah observant during their transition from the Arab lands to Israel, when the State of Israel spent considerable resources in attempts to secularize the Sephardic immigrants.
This includes a great portion of the contemporary Sephardic religious leadership.
You can easily observe some of these influences in how they dress nowadays similar to the Ashkenazic Torah world, etc. Of course this is a superficial point, but it extends much deeper.