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I personally know a frum person who seriously raised his blood pressure via artificial means before reporting to the draft office. The doctor there disqualified him from serving due to his blood pressure being a severe health risk.
Dr. Norman Lamm called Bnei Torah “cave-men”.
Do any mainstream Mesivtas today still teach Shakespeare?
Rabbi Breitowitz clearly said that the ONLY exception permitting abortion is if the mother’s life is in danger. Any consideration other than the mother’s life, he said, does not permit abortion for either Jews or gentiles.
CS: The most important question here is we need your assessment as to whether the OP is a troll?
The lady doth protest too much.
Yekeshe? Where do they exist nowadays?
AAQ: The frum community in America has migrated TO in-town cities, rather than away to the suburbs, as the goyim and secular have over the last 75 years. The frum concentrated over the last 50 years to moving into the NYC, Monsey and Lakewood vicinities — whereas the non-Jewish and non-religious Jews moved away from there, to spread out across the country. Even the cities with sizable frum communities have seen, on average, a net outflow from there to the “Big Three” frum population centers I mentioned in my previous sentence.
Amil, you are again being dishonest. I specifically referenced “when it is required to save the mother’s life.” I purposely did not state the ambiguous concept of “considers a mother’s health”. If having a baby will strain the mother’s mental health for the next 18 years, that is not a valid reason to kill the baby. Indeed, any reason other than to save the mother’s life should never permit abortion.
Every single of the 50 states (plus DC) permit, under all state laws, an abortion when in its absence the mother will lose her life.
Amil: The fact is that out of the 50 United States, not one state outlaws abortion when it is required to save the mother’s life. In other words, all 50 of the 50 states permit abortion if it is necessary to save the mother.
That’s all that counts. The rest is commentary.
Hopefully in the very very near future we will Im Yirtzah Hashem see states outlawing abortion in all cases other than when it is needed to save the mother’s life. For any other abortion illegally performed, we hope to see criminal penalties resulting in the so-called “doctors” or other practitioners committing that murderous crime locked up in prison for a very long time. And in state with courage and conviction will also imprison mothers who voluntarily choose to illegally obtain an abortion when her life was not in danger.
“And if something comes up on the way, like spilling coffee on your shirt”
Please don’t drink and drive.
“And if something comes up on the way, like spilling coffee on your shirt”
Please don’t drink and drive.
ubiq: If a pregnant woman is being executed by Beis Din, the Halacha is to abort the baby first?
provaxx, you’d be okay with the secular government enacting laws permitting public nudity, teaching public school children that the Aryan race is superior or even legalizing manslaughter, since Goyish laws have nothing to do with Yidden?
AAQ: You’re describing the general American, secular, modern, migration patterns. But it isn’t very applicable or widely true for the Frum American community.
Unzere marry a 17 year old first cousin…
GHadorah: Is it hard for these hillbillies to find a shidduch?
Marxist, non-trolls have always been the most dull, boring people ever.
er: Killing in self-defence is also permissible and/or mandatory sometimes. Do you therefore suggest that manslaughter/homicide be legalized, in order not to outlaw instances of self-defense that’s halachicly permitted/mandatory but illegal under secular law?
Get a helicopter.
GHadorah: What’s the difference whether the unborn child developed through an involuntary action or a party unknown? If killing an unborn child is an affront to G-d, certainly no less than thievery, idolatry, arson or manslaughter, then either scenario should be the same as far as it being impermissible.
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Avira, I’ve long ago suggested to him that he do exactly that.
GHadorah: You consider being a ski instructor or farming goats to be one of the shpitz highest attainable achievements one can reach in life?
Do these farm boys look for farm girl type shidduchim?
She has absolutely no right to kill herself. Even if she is not pregnant.
commonsaychel is the Official CR Troll Buster. His word is first, last and final.
Everyone is considered a troll until, and unless, commonsaychel gives a hechsher certifying you are not a troll.
Avira, statistically, many more OOTers move In-Town than vice versa.
Was there a time in history when people stopped dying?
Ever since the advent of “resumes” in shidduchim, a not-that-old phenomenon, girls have become like real estate to be traded and bandied about.
Time to get rid of the resumes.
I keep meeting many many in-towners who have OOT personalities. Most of them have been lifetime in-towners coming from very in-town families.
I know of many gemachs that give cash advance loans with 0% interest.
Mi K’amchu Yisroel.
No one’s trying to ban interracial marriages. Except, possibly, some quacks. No one serious. So stop with the fake scare tactics.
And if illegal aliens don’t get a free education after breaking into the country, then they’ll be less incentive to illegally enter the country. Sounds like a good idea.
No, they won’t reinstate Dred Scott. No need to engage in unrealistic scare tactics.
I’m only interested in a bridge in Brooklyn.
commonsaychel issssssss a trolllllll. The biggest trollllllll of the coffee room EVER. SUCH A TROLL!!!!!
Trolley, Trollster, ________ (fill in the rest)
AAQ: I specifically referred to American/Western culture. Even though too much of that Gentile weltanschauung has most unfortunately infiltrated even some quarters of ours, as you often demonstrate first hand, you are deliberately confusing the Kesuba into an American culture that has no bearing on the point.
Reb Shayala’s brother moved to New York. His Kever is in Staten Island.
If the author or publisher commissioned a crime to obtain this document, the author and/or publisher should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
“Dear Ujm,
“must do her husband’s will” Please quote correctly.”
Dear N0mesorah,
Per your request, here’s the exact original:
וְכֵן צִוּוּ עַל הָאִשָּׁה שֶׁתִּהְיֶה מְכַבֶּדֶת אֶת בַּעְלָהּ בְּיוֹתֵר מִדַּאי וְיִהְיֶה עָלֶיהָ מוֹרָא מִמֶּנּוּ וְתַעֲשֶׂה כָּל מַעֲשֶׂיהָ עַל פִּיו. וְיִהְיֶה בְּעֵינֶיהָ כְּמוֹ שַׂר אוֹ מֶלֶךְ. מְהַלֶּכֶת בְּתַאֲוַת לִבּוֹ וּמַרְחֶקֶת כָּל מַה שֶּׁיִּשְׂנָא. וְזֶה דֶּרֶךְ בְּנוֹת יִשְׂרָאֵל וּבְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל הַקְּדוֹשִׁים וְהַטְּהוֹרִים בְּזִוּוּגָן. וּבִדְרָכִים אֵלּוּ יִהְיֶה יִשּׁוּבָן נָאֶה וּמְשֻׁבָּח:
AAQ: You’ll notice that when the King is sovereign, his wife is entitled Queen Consort. But when the Queen is sovereign, her husband is not entitled King Consort. This is because the title of King, by definition, outranks the title of Queen.
AAQ: American/Western culture has absolutely zero to do with the Kesuba, Torah Judaism or with Klal Yisroel.
User176, what are you referring to?
Coffee Addict: A Queen is not equal to the King. Similarly, the Halacha is that a wife must do her husband’s will, whereas the reverse is not the case.
AAQ: Are you suggesting we learn from the interactions described by Chazal between the heilige Tanna Rabi Meir and his Rebbetzin Bruria?
N0m: Halacha is cancelling them. Avira is merely explaining the Halacha.
In modern Western society, contaminated by feminism, it is deemed verboten to discuss men’s rights or women’s responsibilities. According to the powers that be in American culture, it is only permissible to discuss women’s rights and men’s responsibilities.
Because any threads outside of Decaffeinated doesn’t display on the main Coffee Room page.
Now that Roe v. Wade is B”H about to fall into the dustbin of history, IY”H the newly constituted Supreme Court will soon overturn other despicable decisions such as Obergefell v. Hodges, Lawrence v. Texas, etc.
It took its course after having its day in the sun.
Stalin is the natural result of Marxism.