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Reb Eliezer, do you ever cross the street on red if the road is completely empty on both sides, perhaps at night time or any other time, or do you ever jaywalk by crossing in middle of the (empty) block rather than going (all the way) to the corner (on a long avenue) as the law demands?
Or are you truly the tzadik who is concerned about Dina Dmalchusa and would never walk across the street on red or cross in middle of the block?
ujmParticipantDon’t parse a legal letter from Rabbi Zweibel Esq. like a Chazal.
ujmParticipantActually, doctors use a looser description of life at risk than poskim.
ujmParticipant“And a different part of the answer is the failure to educate ourselves about how to reconcile the teachings of Torah with the teachings of science.”
No “reconciliation” is necessary. The Torah is eternal, as true today – in every sense and in every word – as it was 3,500 years ago. “Science” is overturned once newer science disproves older science. Just because science says something now that does not mean that tomorrow a newer science will disprove and overturn it.
ujmParticipantChelkas Mechokek (2:5.9): One who knows that there is a mamzer is not allowed to reveal this information – But it is stated in Shulchan Aruch (EH. 2:3) that two people had testified that a family has a mamzer or challel. How can they do this since they are violating the halacha of not revealing this information? However saying they shouldn’t testify also presents a difficulty since we pasken in this sif that if there is a doubt whether there is a mamzer in a particular family that someone who marries a member of that family needs to get divorced – so why isn’t it a mitzva to reveal this information because today or tomorrow witnesses will come and testify that there is a mamzer in the family and consequently the children of this family will be considered sofek mamzerim? A possible answer is that concerning the Ran on which the leniency of the Rema is based, he could be talking about a case where it is not clear that a member of the family is actually a mamzer – but merely that there is a rumor. Perhaps it is only such a case where the Ran is saying that there is no need to reveal this information except to modest people [who won’t spread the information]. However when two witness know for certain that a mamzer assimilated into this family it is very difficult to claim that they should not testify since the children of this family – once the information becomes public that there is a mamzer who is mixed into this famly –will henceforth be sofek mamzerim.
ujmParticipantEdios (8:7): Rabbi Yehoshua said, I have received a tradition from Rabban Yochanon ben Zakkai who heard it from his rebbe and his rebbe heard it from his rebbe as a halacha l’Moshe m’Sinai (Tradition given from Sinai) that Eliyahu will not come to declare unclean or to pronounce clean, to put away or to bring near. But rather he will put away those brought near by force and to bring near that who have been put away by force. The family of Beis Zerephah was on the other side of the Jordan and Ben Tzion put it away by force. And there was already another family there and Ben Tziion brought it near by force. For such people Eliyahu will come to declare unclean or to pronounce clean, to put away or to bring near. Rabbi Yehuda disagreed and said Eliyahu will bring near but not put away. Rabbi Shimon said that will come to resolve disputes. The Sages disagreed and said that Eliyahu will neither come to put away nor to bring near but rather to make peace in the world. As is stated in Malachi (3), Behold I will send Eliyahu the Prophet to you… And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children and the heart of the children their fathers.
ujmParticipantShulchan Aruch (E.H. 2:5): If a family of Cohanim has a definite challel amongst them then every woman of that family is prohibited until she is checked and if she marries she must be divorced. The same applies if there is a family that a sofek mamer or definite mamzer.
Rema: However all of this applies only if it is definitely known to be true. However a family that has a person who is invalid for marriage – but it is not public knowledge- since he has been successfully mixed in then let him remained so. Someone who knows about this invalid person – is not allowed to reveal the information but the family members are to be left with their presumption of validity (chezkas kashrus). That is because all such families which have an unknown invalid person amongst them will be declared as fully kosher in the Messianic Era. Nevertheless is appropriate to reveal this information to those who can keep a secret (This is implied by the Ran). However this ignoring of the information is only when the invalid member is successfully mixed in and concealed from public knowledge. But as long as he is not mixed in then we reveal the invalid members and publicly announce it so that unblemished people will avoid marriage with them. See Choshen Mishpat 25 as to who is believed to testify about a families pedigree.
ujmParticipantDo we force a Kohen to divorce his wife today if she was raped?
ujmParticipantGreen’s calling card isn’t antisemitism. The Democrat Party is the home of modern antisemitism.
ujmParticipantGreen’s calling card isn’t antisemitism. The Democrat Party is the home of modern antisemitism.
ujmParticipantAvira, I may be mistaken, but I think there’s some Litvish Hamon Hoam that wear a Kapote.
ujmParticipantOP: Institutionalize him.
ujmParticipantMr. Potato Head, is that you?!
ujmParticipantAseh: Did you start building pillars, yet, to hold up the falling sky?
ujmParticipantLubavitch has beautiful niggunim.
ujmParticipantGotAGoodPoint: If Halachicly there’s no basis to declare a child a mamzer, but a DNA test says that the child was fathered by the next door neighbor and not the husband, then Halachicly the child is still kosher.
ujmParticipantAvira: I think a real sofek mamzer is assur to both a kosher yid, since he might be a mamzer, and to an actual mamzer, since he might be kosher. So, in a sense, a sofek mamzer is worse off than a known mamzer.
ujmParticipantAvira: It’s different than wearing a bekeshe?
ujmParticipantIt’s the best Kugel. Everyone loves it.
ujmParticipantTLIK: Since when does one need to be on any particular madreiga to wear a Kapote? Do you need to be on a certain madreiga to wear a Yarmulka, too, in your esteemed opinion?
ujmParticipantTrump is doing excellent in the frequency his candidates are winning both the primaries and general elections. No one expected a 100% success rate but his not too far behind 100.
ujmParticipantAfter you figure out this milichig chulent, I’d be interested in a recipe for a fleishig cheese blintza.
ujmParticipantAseh: No, you don’t have it right. It’s been unambiguously exposed that the climate scientists cooked the data, hid data that didn’t comport to their desired result of “proving” man-made Global Warming, so that they could “scientifically” report it is man-made despite the inconvenient facts that cropped up against what they were trying to prove.
Their email accounts, where they openly discussed all this among themselves who they trusted, was hacked and exposed. They had no choice but to admit the legitimacy of what they wrote.
ujmParticipantDeae N0mrsorah: Thank you. Perhaps I can hire you to encapsulate my most potent comments into book form, for the benefit of mankind.
ujmParticipantWe’ve been hearing what the OP says since at least the 1960s. That’s 60+ years.
ujmParticipantAseh: Maybe there’s a sofek if the sky is falling and we should build pillars to hold the sky up. Just in case.
ujmParticipantIt’s been exposed that the so-called “scientific community” manipulated relevant data in order to reach the desired conclusion that man-made Global Warming is real and the cause. Respected scientists who disagreed, and/or pointed out the manipulation of the data and conclusion, were pilloried and threatened with job loss.
ujmParticipantI put all my garbage into the regular garbage. Black bag, tied up.
ujmParticipantAmil: To be a good progressive, you should be sticking only to consuming locally harvested coffee.
ujmParticipantGlobal Warming is science fiction.
ujmParticipantOne of my three wives isn’t sure I should take on the responsibilities of having a fourth. The other two are all for it.
That’s my Shidduch Crisis. My Rov/Posek, who is Moroccan like myself, is still mulling it over.
ujmParticipantYabia: The answer has different shittas. You want a full Halachic analysis?
ujmParticipantChazal and the Rishonim tell us why the white dress dance was discontinued and may not be done in our days. Are you seriously suggesting reinitiating that despite this?
ujmParticipantYabia: I agree. But your example wasn’t what my comparison was about. My comparison was about two people who are in Yeshiva 10 hours a day. The first one seriously learns for 10 hours; the second one seriously learns only for two hours, and is “battling” his other eight hours there. The first one is getting through half a Daf a day; the second one is getting through 5 Blatts a day.
ujmParticipantAseh: Why is there even any hava mina that there might be a right to kill a mamzer, any more than to kill a non-mamzer?
ujmParticipantDoes everyone agree that it Congress passed a law that anyone who performs or undergoes an abortion will be executed, but categorically and explicitly ties both the law and its enforcement to directly match how abortion (and how judicial enforcement) is treated under the Sheva Mitzvos, that this would be a wonderful thing that we all support?
For the purposes of this question accept that this is legally viable, rather than trying to weasel out of responding on secular grounds.
ujmParticipantWe should return to how we made Shidduchim in prewar Europe and prewar Mizrachi world. It was done, more or less, unchanged for thousands of years. We should never have changed to the current American model, large portions of which were emulated from the contemporary non-Jewish world.
ujmParticipantBeing a Priest is definitely not an unusual occupation for Jews.
ujmParticipantN0m: I didn’t say that he didn’t understand. I said it took him an awfully long time to understand a small amount. In my theoretical example it was 10 hours to understand half a Daf. But understand it he did.
By the way, even if he wouldn’t understand it, which wasn’t the example I earlier gave, he still gets full credit of Limud HaTorah for all his effort. As much as a Masmid who put in an equal amount of effort and time, and came away understanding 100x more and 100x better.
A Yeshiva or a Kollel is better off with the Talmid who spends 10 hours a day seriously learning, even though he only finishes half a Daf per 10 hours, than a Talmid who spends 2 hours a day seriously learning, but he fully understands inside out 5 Blatts every 2 hours, but then spends another 8 hours a day schmoozing, socializing or catching up with what’s going on in the world.
ujmParticipantIt went well for 70+ years prior to 2020, as well.
ujmParticipantCan one call himself frum if he says motzi shem ra or loshon hora?
ujmParticipantN0m: Limud Torah is a huge mitzvah in its own right. The Mitzvah is not one iota less if the person is an extremely slow learner and takes 10 times as long to understand Torah or Gemora than an average person. Him learning 10 times as long and still end up understanding “only” half as much Torah as the next guy who aced the sugya in 20% as much time spent in Limud Torah, the guy who knows half as much gets 5 times the schar for Limud Torah as the other guy. And if the Yeshiva can only have one of the two, they’d be much better off holding unto the slower learner.
ujmParticipantReal Learners do not necessarily need to learn or know a lot. A learner who spends 10 hours a day cracking his head to try to understand less than half an Amud, and after the 10 hours has only a very basic idea of what he learnt, and he does this every day of the week, year after year, is a much better Yeshivab or Kollel student than the guy sitting next to him who spends two hours a day learning five new blatts with all the meforshim, and he successfully knows it inside and out and is capable of acing any test with flying colors, but spends the next eight hours of his days battling about sports, politics and whatever else.
ujmParticipantYabia isn’t Sefardic.
ujmParticipantEveryone must get a Rov.
ujmParticipant“If yeshivas were helping in some way, what was the basis for that?”
Pekuach Nefesh. A Yid is prohibited from serving in a gentile army if doing so risks his life. He’s required take whatever possible steps (refusing to serve, draft fishing, moving to Canada, fake exemption, etc) to avoid putting himself in a sakanas nefoshos situation, such as enlisting in the army 0
ujmParticipantYoung male African-Americans engage in more risky behavior than young male Caucasian Americans. And their death rate is higher. There are statistics to demonstrate that.
Young gentile males engage in risky behavior far more so than young Jewish males. And their death rate is higher. There are no statistics demonstrating this is true or false. But common sense, living in the real world and paying attention to what’s going on will make this clear to any clear eyed, unbiased, observer. Even if he can’t prove it with official surveys and stats.
In Israel the young non-Chareidim face a higher death rate in the armed services, something the Chareidim serve in far lesser numbers.
For these things that no statistics exist for sub-population groups we can argue both sides back and forth with no clear proof who is correct. You might argue there’s no statistical proof that the Amish suffer any less motor vehicle deaths than the national (or state) statistics for the population at large. Or that conservative religious Muslims suffer no less alcohol poisoning than the general statistics for the population at large.
ujmParticipantWhat’s so hard to understand about Footsteps? Anything they, their board members or their supporters say, state or claim starts off with a presumption of falsehood. If he told you it is raining in Bnei Brak, you should not believe him until you verified it. Even if he was then in Bnei Brak.
Would you accept alleged statistics regarding Jewish behaviors from a “board member” of Hezbollah?
ujmParticipantSpare us the falsehoods from your Footsteps board members. The OTD claims presented have no basis in reality.
As far a the general age gap issue, I’m not sure you can be effective in convincing Litvish boys to marry younger or convince them to marry older girls (than they currently do) unless and until the Yeshivish oilem adopts the Chasidish type Shidduch process.
In Eretz Yisroel the Litvish Shidduch process is closer to the Chasidish system than it is to the American Litvish system.
ujmParticipantWho are we kidding? We both know that the African-American population has a significantly higher youth death rate as a result of violence, drugs and certain very unhealthy behaviors. That skewers the national statistics, whereas if you excluded such minority populations the general Caucasian rates are significantly lower. And on top of that factor, it is quite clear and obvious to any observer that the Orthodox Jewish (and general Jewish) communities have a significantly lower youth violent death rate than the general gentile population (even compared only to Caucasians) as well as a significantly lower youth death rate from drug overdosage and, say, HIV/STD for example, than the general gentile population.
There’s no reason to believe that male Orthodox Jews suffer greater disability rates or greater OTD rates than female Orthodox Jews. Nor have you or anyone else provided any evidence, other than innuendo and anonymous claims, that there’s any reason to think there’s any difference, one way or the other, between the genders.
And Footsteps is an antisemitic, religious-hating, hate group that has a notoriety for lying about figures, statistics and anything relating to Orthodox Jews. The fact that THEY are your source, demonstrates that you have an agenda other than the truth.
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