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  • in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2082056
    ujm
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    “When I was a teenager I thought that 99% of people had really good marriages.”

    And what makes you think otherwise now?

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    “One thing different was that most Yidden did not have a lot of choices, so people stayed within the community.”

    That was excellent. Halevei we had that maaila today.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081908
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    Kuvult, do you have the same attitude of letting your kids be good friends and go to the homes of children from families that are Open Orthodox, Conservadox or Reform Jews?

    ujm
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    Define what a “Mashicist” is.

    How is that different than a “Elokist”? How many Elokists are there (5, 10, 1,000)?

    What percentage of Lubavitchers are NOT either of those two categories?

    in reply to: words that are not commonly used these day, #2081903
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    @commonsaychel: Exactly. “Hallo”, “Herr Nur” and other similar variations to call one’s wife’s attention without calling out her name in pubic is how Klal Yisroel “firt zich” before many folks lost such sensibilities in the postwar generations.

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    The yidishkeit anywhere in golus has been incomplete. The yidishkeit in America doesn’t hold a candle to the yidishkeit in the shtetl. Halevei the yidishkeit of this generation should elevate itself to come closer to the yidishkeit of the shtetl.

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081863
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    I’m answering ubiq’s point.

    in reply to: words that are not commonly used these day, #2081823
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    “Anshuldig”

    This word is used at least 500 times a day just in my neighborhood.

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081819
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    And the UN declared Jerusalem to be an international city not to be controlled by the Zionists or Jews.

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081814
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    “I was under the impression that halacha recognizes conquest as creating ownership. The British conquered Palestine from the Ottomanโ€™s it was theirs not the inhabitantโ€™s and certainly not the neighbors”

    The Balfour Declaration was made by the British when the Ottoman Empire still controlled Eretz Yisroel. The British did NOT control the land at the time. By time the British later gained control of the land, they did not espouse or support the principles of Balfour.

    So you have another reason it is halachicly inapplicable.

    in reply to: words that are not commonly used these day, #2081602
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    Ray: The two words in question in the OP, are Yiddish words.

    in reply to: words that are not commonly used these day, #2081599
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    My Rov zt’l, who was already a Rov in prewar Europe, when he needed his wife’s attention would call out to her with “Herr Nur!” (“Listen!”). That was the common way to call your wife in Yiddish.

    Nowadays, many of the youth have lost our Yiddishe Tznius and will even call their wife in public by her first name.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081588
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    Goldilocks, I don’t remember about one eye, but I certainly learnt looking at the Kohanim during duchanan might cause blindness (not immediately). And, yes, heard that about giraffes.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081585
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    Kuvult, when we were kids television was prohibited. Don’t know what you’re talking about. Kashrus standards were pretty strict. 40+ years ago Yeshivos enforced Kashrus standards and asked everyone every year whether anyone had a TV. Triangle-K was a big no-no since Rav Moshe Feinstein’s time, and famously so.

    Chasidish and Yeshivish kids mixed because both more or less shared strict Kashrus and no TV. MO even back then was a different world.

    Hashkafa must be in harmony both at home and in Yeshiva.

    in reply to: words that are not commonly used these day, #2081575
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    Are we speaking specifically about Yiddish or about English as well?

    Btw, I’m not so sure the two Yiddish words you mentioned have gone out of style. It just might be in your circles.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081519
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    Kuvult, no, Avira proved you wrong. You wrote about “to create divisions based on Hats, Yarmulke type, shirt color, and Sheitel length.” Avira pointed out that any segregation of children is correctly designed to keep them away from being influenced by impressionable youngsters with improper and halachicly non permitted activities such as television (pritzus), Internet, pop culture, poor Kashrus, etc. Noting to do with shirt colors, Yarmulka types or hats.

    in reply to: Any tips for gvirim? #2081507
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    The Baalei Tzedaka who come from Eretz Yisroel to America (and other countries) several times a year (Purim season, around Yomim Tovim, etc.) to collect for various mosdos or other worthy causes know the addresses and numbers of most of the gvirim in New York, New Jersey, Los Angeles and other locales. Try speaking to a few of them.

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081495
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    Advertising something in Lakewood does not convey any sort of hechsher or haskama. Even if one plasters a poster in some random shuls.

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081433
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    N0mesorah:

    ื‘ืฉื•”ืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ ื™ื•ืืœ ืกื™ืžืŸ ืงืœื

    ื‘”ื”
    ืงื•ืœ ื ื”ื™ ื ืฉืžืข ื‘ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ืฆืขืงืช ื‘ื ื™ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื”ื™ืจืื™ื ื•ื—ืจื“ื™ื ื‘ืขื™ืจ ื”’ ืฉืžื” ื•ื”ื‘ื™ื“”ืฆ ืฉื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ืขื™ื””ืง ืช”ื• ื•ื‘ืืฉื ื”ืจื‘ ื”ื’ืื•ืŸ ื”ืฆื“ื™ืง ื–ืงืŸ ื•ืงื ื” ื—ื›ืžื” ื›ืงืฉ”ืช ืžื•ื””ืจ ื™ื•ืกืฃ ื—ื™ื™ื ื–ืื ื ืขื ืคืขืœื“ ืฉืœื™”ื ื”ืื‘ื“ืง”ืง, ืžื‘ืงืฉื™ื ืื•ืชื ื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืœื”ื ืœืขื–ืจื” ื‘ืฆืจื”, ื•ืชืขืœ ื–ืขืงืชื ืืช ืคื ื™ ื”’ ืื™ืš ื”ืžื—ื‘ืœื™ื ื›ืจืžื™ื ื›ืจื ื”’ ืฆื‘ืื•ืช ื”ืžื” ื”ืžืขืžื™ื“ื™ื ืฆืœื ื‘ื”ื™ื›ืœ ื”’ ื•ื ืกืคื—ื• ืขืœ ื‘ื™ืช ื™ืขืงื‘ ืœืกืคื—ืช ื•ืœื‘ื”ืจืช, ืืฉืจ ื›ืžื”ื• ืœื ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืฆืจืขืช ืžืžืืจืช, ืœืฆื•ื“ื“ ื ืคืฉื•ืช ืœื”ืฉืงื•ืชื ืžื™ื ื”ืจืขื™ื ื”ืžืืจืจื™ื ื”ื•ื ื”ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื”ื›ืคื™ืจื” ืจ”ืœ ืขื“ ืฉื‘ืขื•ื””ืจ ื ืชืงื™ื™ื ื‘ื”ื ื”ื™ื• ืฆืจื™’ ืœืจืืฉ, ืื™ืฉ ืฆืจ ื•ืื•ื™ื‘ ืœื“ืช ืชื•ืจืชื™ื ื• ื”ืงื“ื•ืฉื” ื•ืœืขื™ืงืจื™ ื”ืืžื•ื ื” ื“ืจืš ืงืฉืชื• ื›ืื•ื™ื‘ ืœื”ืคืจ ื‘ืจื™ืช ืขื•ืœื, ื”ื ืงื•ื‘ ื‘ืฉื ืื‘ืจื”ื ื™ืฆื—ืง ืงื•ืง, ื”ื•ื ื”ื’ื‘ืจ ืืฉืจ ื”ื—ื–ื™ืง ื•ื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ื‘ืืจื””ืง ื’ื‘ื•ืœ ื”ื˜ื•ืžืื” ืจ”ืœ, ื”ื™ื ื”ืขื“ื” ื”ืจืขื” ื”ืžื›ื ื™ื ืขืฆืžื ื‘ืฉื ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื, ืืฉืจ ื”ืŸ ื”ืžื” ื‘ืขืชื™ื ื”ืœืœื• ื”ืื‘ื ื™ ื ื’ืฃ ืœื‘ื™ืช ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื•ืžื—ืจื™ื‘ื™ื ืืจื””ืง ื•ื›ืœ ื”ืืจืฆื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœืœ, ื”ืื•ืžืจื™ื ืขืจื• ืขืจื• ืขื“ ื”ื™ืกื•ื“ ื‘ื” ื”ื•ื ืงื™ื•ื ืชื•ื””ืง ื•ื”ืืžื•ื ื” ื”ืžืกื•ืจื” ืœื ื•, ืฉื”ื•ื ื”ื™ืกื•ื“ ืœืงื™ื•ื ื›ืœ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ื›ืœืœ ื•ื‘ืคืจื˜, ื•ืžื‘ืœืขื“ื™ ื–ืืช ื”ื•ืกื™ืฃ ืคืฉืขื™ื ืขืœ ืคืฉืขื™ื, ืœื”ื“ืคื™ืก ื‘ืกืคืจื™ื• ื”ื˜ืžืื™ื, ื’ืœื•ื™ื™ื ื•ื™ื“ื•ืขื™ื, ื“ื‘ืจื™ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื›ืคื™ืจื”, ื‘ืขื–ื•ืช ืžืฆื— ื•ื—ื•ืฆืคื” ื™ืชื™ืจื”, ืืช ื”’ ื”ื•ื ืžื’ื“ืฃ ื‘ื™ื“ ืจืžื”, ืืฉืจ ืœ ื ื ืจืื” ื•ืœื ื ืฉืžืข ื›ื–ืืช ืžื™ืžื™ื ื™ืžื™ืžื”, ืชืกืžืจ ืฉืขืจื•ืช ืื ื•ืฉ ื•ืชืฆื™ืœื ื” ืฉืชื™ ืื–ื ื™ ื›ืœ ืฉื•ืžืข, ื”ื ื” ืืจืกื• ืืจืก ื‘ืจื–ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื•ื˜ื” ื›ืžื“ืงืจื•ืช ื—ืจื‘ ืœื”ืกื™ืช ื•ืœื”ื“ื™ื— ืคืจื—ื™ ืฉื•ืฉื ื”, ื•ื”ืจื‘ ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื• ื”ืžื“ืื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื‘ ื›ืœ ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื”’ ืžื•ืขืชืงื™ื ื‘ืงื•ื ื˜ืจืก ืงื•ืœ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ื ื“ืคืก ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ื•ื‘ืžื›ืชื‘ื• ืฉืœ ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ื”ืจื‘ ื”ื’ืื•ืŸ ื”ืžืคื•ืจืกื ื”ืื‘ื“ืง”ืง ืกืื˜ืžืืจ ืฉืœื™ื˜”ื (ื”ืจื‘ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื ื’ืจื™ื ื•ื•ืืœื“-ืฉื•”ืช ื–ื›ืจื•ืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื), ืื‘ืœ ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื™’ ืœื ื’ื“ื™ ื”ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ ืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืฉืœื• ืจืื™ืชื™ ื›ื™ ืขื•ื“ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžื” ืฉื”ืขืชื™ืงื• ื”ื ื ืžืฆืื™ื ื‘ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื•, ืžืœืื™ื ืขืœ ื›ืœ ื’ื“ื•ืชื™ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื›ืคื™ืจื”, ืžืื•ื“ ื ื•ืจื, ื•ื™ืœืื” ืœื‘ ื›ืœ ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื”’ ืœื”ืขืชื™ืง ืจื•ื‘ ื“ื‘ืจื™ ื˜ื•ืžืื” ื›ืืœื• ืื•ื™ ืœืขื™ื ื™ื ืฉื›ืš ืจื•ืื•ืช, ื”ืฉื™”ืช ื™ืจื—ื ื‘ืžื”ืจื”, ื•ื™ื ืงื•ื ื ืงืžืชื• ื•ื ืงืžืช ืขืžื• ื‘ื ”ื™ ื‘ืจื•ื— ืกืขืจ ื•ื’ื‘ื•ืจื”.

    ื•ื”ื ื” ืืš ืœืžื•ืชืจ ืœื”ืืจื™ืš ื‘ื”ืœื›ื” ื–ื• ืฉื”ื•ืจืืชื• ืืกื•ืจื”, ื›ื™ ืืฃ ืžื™ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžื™ืŸ ื•ื›ื•ืคืจ ืืœื ืฉืžื—ืœืœ ื”’ ื•ืžื—ื˜ื™ื ืืช ื”ืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ืฉืืจ ืขื‘ื™ืจื•ืช, ืืกื•ืจ ืœืฉืžื•ืข ื”ื•ืจืื” ืžืคื™ื•, ื•ื‘ืฉื•”ืข ืกื™ืžืŸ ืจืž”ื’ ืกืขื™ืฃ ื’’ ื“ืช”ื— ื”ืžื–ืœื–ืœ ื‘ืžืฆื•ืช ื•ืื™ืŸ ื‘ื• ื™ืจืืช ืฉืžื™ื ื”ืจื™ ื”ื•ื ื›ืงืœ ืฉื‘ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืจ, ื•ื”ื‘ื™ื ืขืœ ื–ื” ื‘ื‘ืจื›ื™ ื™ื•ืกืฃ ืฉื ื“ื›ืœ ืช”ื— ืฉื™ืฉ ื‘ื™ื“ื• ื—ื™ืœื•ืœ ื”’ ืืกื•ืจ ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืžืžื ื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ ืชื•ืจื” ื•ืœืกืžื•ืš ืขืœ ื”ื•ืจืืชื• ื™ืขื™ื™”ืฉ ื‘ืฉื™ื•”ื‘, ื•ืข”ืข ื‘ืฉื•”ืช ื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœืžื” ื™ื•”ื“ ื—”ื‘ ืกื™ืžืŸ ืง”ื ื“ืืฃ ื“ืื™ืชื ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœืžื™ (ืžื•ืขื“ ืงื˜ืŸ ืคืจืง ื’’ ื”ืœื›ื” ื’) ื–ืงืŸ ืฉืื™ืจืข ื‘ื• ื“ื‘ืจ ืื™ืŸ ืžื•ืจื™ื“ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืžื’ื“ืœืชื•, ืžื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืื ื”ื—ื˜ื™ื ืืช ื”ืจื‘ื™ื ื”ื•ื™ ื›ื™ืจื‘ืขื ื‘ืŸ ื ื‘ื˜ ื•ืคืฉื™ื˜ื ื“ืžื•ืจื™ื“ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืžื’ื“ื•ืœืชื• ื™ืขื™ื™”ืฉ, ื•ื‘ืžื™ื ื™ื ื•ืืคื™ืงื•ืจืกื™ื, ื›ื‘ืจ ื›ืชื‘ ื”ื—ืช”ืก ื‘ื—ื•”ืž ืกื™ืžืŸ ืงืก”ื‘, ื“ื›ื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืืกื•ืจ ืœืงืจื‘ ืืœ ืคืชื— ื‘ื™ืชื• ื•ื›ืœ ื‘ืื™ื” ืœื ื™ืฉื•ื‘ื•ืŸ ื•ืœื ื™ืฉื™ื’ื•ืŸ ืื•ืจื—ื•ืช ื—ื™ื™ื, ืžื›ืฉ”ื› ืฉืืกื•ืจ ืœื™ืงื— ืชื•ืจื” ืžืคื™ื• ื™ืขื™ื™”ืฉ.

    ื•ื”ื ื” ื ื—ื–ื™ ืื ืŸ ื‘ื’ืžืจื ื’ื™ื˜ื™ืŸ ืคืจืง ื”ืฉื•ืœื— ื“ืฃ ืž”ื”, ืกืคืจ ืชื•ืจื” ืฉื›ืชื‘ื• ืžื™ืŸ ื™ืฉืจืฃ ื›ืชื‘ื• ืขื›ื•”ื ื™ื’ื ื–, ื•ื‘ืฉื‘ืช ื“ืฃ ืงื˜”ื– ืืžืจ ืจ’ ื˜ืจืคื•ืŸ ืฉืื ื™ื‘ื•ืื• ืœื™ื“ื™ ืฉืื ื™ ืืฉืจื•ืฃ ืื•ืชื ื•ืืช ื”ืื–ื›ืจื•ืช ืฉื‘ื”ืŸ, ื”ืจ ื™ืฉืžืขืืœ ืง”ื• ื•ืžื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ืฉืœื•ื ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื™ืฉ ืœืืฉืชื• ืืžืจื” ืชื•ืจื” ืฉืžื™ ืฉื ื›ืชื‘ ื‘ืงื“ื•ืฉื” ื™ืžื—ื” ืขืœ ื”ืžื™ื, ื”ืœืœื• ืฉืžื˜ื™ืœื™ืŸ ืื™ื‘ื” ื•ืงื ืื” ื•ืชื—ืจื•ืช ื‘ื™ืŸ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืœืื‘ื™ื”ืŸ ืฉื‘ืฉืžื™ื ืขืื›ื•”ื›, ื•ืขืœื™ื”ื ืืžืจ ื“ื•ื“ ื”ืœื ืžืฉื ืื™ืš ื”’ ืืฉื ื ื•ื‘ืชืงื•ืžืžื™ืš ืืชืงื•ื˜ื˜ ืชื›ืœื™ืช ืฉื ืื” ืฉื ืืชื™ื ืœืื•ื™ื‘ื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืœื™, ื•ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื”ืจืžื‘”ื ื–”ืœ ื‘ืค”ื• ืžื”ืœื›ื•ืช ื™ืกื•ื“ื™ ื”ืชื•ืจื” ื”ืœื›ื” ื—’, ืืคื™ืงื•ืจืก ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืฉื›ืชื‘ ืก”ืช ืฉื•ืจืคื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืขื ื”ืื–ื›ืจื•ืช ืฉื‘ื• ื›ื“ื™ ืฉืœื ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืฉื ืœืืคื™ืงื•ืจืกื™ื ื•ืœื ืœืžืขืฉื™ื”ื ื™ืขื™ื™”ืฉ.

    ื”ื ื” ื›”ื› ื”ื—ืžื™ืจื• ื‘ืกืคืจ ืชื•ืจื” ืฉื›ืชื‘ื• ืžื™ืŸ ืœืžื—ื•ืง ืืช ื”’ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื‘ื›ืชื‘ื• ืขื›ื•”ื ืžืฉื•ื ืฉืœื ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืฉื ืœืืคื™ืงื•ืจืกื™ื, ืืฃ ืฉื‘ืกืคืจ ืชื•ืจื” ืœื ื”ืขืชื™ืง ืืœื ืื•ืชื™ื•ืช ื”ืชื•ืจื” ื•ื”ืื–ื›ืจื•ืช ื•ืœื ื—ื™ื“ืฉ ืฉื ืฉื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืžื“ืขืชื•, ื•ืืš ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืžื—ืฉื‘ืชื• ื–ืจื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืžืžืงื•ืจ ืžื™ื ื”ืจืขื™ื ืืฃ ืฉืื™ื ื” ื ื™ื›ืจืช ืžืชื•ืš ืžืขืฉื™ื•, ื”ื—ืžื™ืจื• ืฉืœื ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืฉื ืœืคืขืœื•ืชื™ื•, ื•ืžื›ืœ ืฉื›ืŸ ืฉืืกื•ืจ ืœื”ื ื™ื— ืœื• ืฉื ื•ืฉืืจื™ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืœื• ืื™ื–ื” ื”ืชืžื ื•ืช ื‘ื”ื•ืจืื” ื•ืชื•ืจื”, ืฉื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื—ื•ืชืจ ื—ืชื™ืจื”, ืœืืžืฉื•ื›ื™ ืื‘ืชืจื™’ ื‘ื“ืขื” ื ืคืกื“ื” ื•ื–ืจื”, ืžืจื” ื›ืœืขื ื” ืจ”ืœ.

    ื•ื™ืฉ ื›ืช ืฆื‘ื•ืขื™ื ื”ืžื—ืคื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื•ื”ืืคื™ืงื•ืจืกื™ื ื‘ืืžืจื ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื”ืชืงื•ื˜ื˜ ื›ื™ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื”ืฉืœื•ื, ื•ืื ืื™ืŸ ืฉืœื•ื ืื™ืŸ ื›ืœื•ื, ื›ื”ื ื” ื•ื›ื”ื ื” ื“ื‘ืจื™ ื”ื‘ืœื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ืชื ื ืจ”ื™ ืžื›ื—ื™ืฉื ื‘ืœืžื“ื• ื”ื—ื™ื•ื‘ ืœืื‘ื“ ื›ื— ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ืžื”ื ืฉืฆื™ื•ืชื” ื”ืชื•ื””ืง ืœืžื—ื•ืง ืืช ื”’ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ื˜ืœืช ื”ืฉืœื•ื ื›ื™ ื”ืŸ ื”ืžื” ื”ืžื˜ื™ืœื™ื ืื™ื‘ื” ื•ืชื—ืจื•ืช, ื•ื–ื”ื• ื”ืฉืœื•ื ืฉื‘ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืœืื‘ื“ ื›ื— ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื•ื™ื”ื™’ ืื—ืจื™ืชื ืœื”ื›ืจื™ืช.

    ื•ื‘ื’ืžืจื ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ื“ืฃ ื›”ื˜, ืฉืžืขื•ืŸ ื”ืคืงื•ืœื™ ื”ืกื“ื™ืจ ื™”ื— ื‘ื™ื‘ื ื”, ืืžืจ ืจ”ื’ ื›ืœื•ื ื™ืฉ ืื“ื ืฉื™ื•ื“ืข ืœืชืงืŸ ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืฆื“ื•ืงื™ื, ืขืžื“ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื•ืชื™ืงื ื”, ืœืฉื ื” ืื—ืจืช ืฉื›ื—ื” ื•ื”ืฉืงื™ืฃ ื‘ื” ืฉืชื™ื ื•ืฉืœืฉ ืฉืขื•ืช ื•ืœื ื”ืขืœื•ื”ื•, ื•ื”ืงืฉื• ืืžืื™ ืœื ื”ืขืœื•ื”ื• ื•ื”ืืจ”ื™ ื˜ืขื” ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ืื™ืŸ ืžืขืœื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืฆื“ื•ืงื™ื ืžืขืœื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืฉืžื ืžื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื, ืฉืื ื™ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื“ืื™ื”ื• ืชื™ืงื ื”, ื•ื ื™ื—ื•ืฉ ื“ืœืžื ื”ื“ืจ ื‘ื™’ ื•ืืฃ ืฆื“ื™ืง ืžืขื™ืงืจื ื“ืœืžื ื”ื“ืจ ื‘ื™’ ื›ื•’ ืฉืื ื™ ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื“ืืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ื” [ื•ื“ืขืช ื”ืจ”ื™ ืฉื ื“ืžื” ืฉืืžืจื• ืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ื˜ืขื” ื‘ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ืŸ ื”ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ืฉืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืฉืœื ื™ื”ื ืขื•ื“ ืฉ”ืฅ ืœืขื•ืœื. ื•ื”ืžื’”ื ื‘ืกื™ืžืŸ ืงื›”ื• ืžืฆื“ื“ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืžืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขื•ื“ ืฉ”ืฅ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืค”ื, ื•ื‘ื™ืืจ ืฉื ื‘ืžื—ืฆื™ืช ื”ืฉืงืœ ืฉื–ื” ื“ืขืช ื”ื—ื•ืœืงื™ืŸ ืขืœ ื”ืจ”ื™ ื–”ืœ ืฉืื™ืŸ ื”ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ื‘ืฉ”ืก ืฉืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืœื•ืœื ืืœื ืœืคื™ ืฉืขื”. ื•ืขืœ ื›ืœ ืคื ื™ื ืžื“ื›ืชื‘ ื”ืžื’”ื ื‘ื–ื” ืฉืื™ืŸ ืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืกื‘ื™ืœ ืค”ื ืื ื›ืŸ ื ืจืื” ื“ืื ืื™ืจืข ืœื• ื›ืŸ ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืค”ื ื›ื™ืœื™ ืขืœืžื ืžื•ื“ื™ ืฉืžืขื‘ื™ืจื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืฉืœื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืขื•ื“ ืฉ”ืก ืœืขื•ืœื, ืืฃ ื‘ื–ืžื ื• ืฉืœ ื”ืžื’”ื ืฉื›ืชื‘ ืฉื ืฉืœื ื”ื™’ ืื– ืžื™ื ื™ื ืžืฆื•ื™ื™ื, ื•ืคืœื•ื’ืชืชืŸ ื‘ื–ื” ืกื•ื‘ื‘ ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ ื”ืฉ”ืก ื“ืžื™ื™ืจื™ ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื›ืขื•ื‘ื“ื ื“ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ.

    ื•ื”ื ื” ื‘ืืžืช ื›ืœืœื ื”ื•ื ืฉืื™ืŸ ืžื•ืฆื™ืื™ืŸ ืฉื•ื ืื“ื ืžื—ื–ืงืช ื›ืฉืจื•ืช ื›ืœ ื›ืžื” ื“ืืคืฉืจ ืœื“ื•ื ื• ืœื›ืฃ ื–ื›ื•ืช ืฉืœื ื”ื™’ ืืœื ื˜ืขื•ืช ื•ืฉื’ื™ืื”, ื•ืืฃ ื‘ื˜ื‘ื— ืฉื”ื•ืฆื™ื ื˜ืจื™ืคื•ืช ืžืชื—ืช ื™ื“ื• ืฉืžื‘ื•ืืจ ื‘ืฉื•”ืข ื™ื•”ื“ ื‘ื™ืžืŸ ืงื™”ื˜ ืกืขื™ืฃ ื™”ื– ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื• ื”ืชื ืฆืœื•ืช ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉื•ื’ื’ ื”ื™ื™ืชื™, ืžื‘ื•ืืจ ื”ื˜ืขื ื‘ืชืฉื•’ ื”ืจืฉื‘”ื ืกื™ืžืŸ ื›’ (ืฉืฉื ืžืงื•ืจ ื“ื™ืŸ ื–ื”) ืฉื”ื ืœื•ืžืจ ื‘ื• ืžื™ื˜ืขื™ ื˜ืขื” ื›ื™ ื”ื˜ืจื™ืคื•ืช ื™ื“ื•ืขื™ื ื”ื ื•ืื ืœื ื ื•ื“ืขื• ืœื–ื” ืื™ืŸ ืจืื•ื™ ืœืžื ื•ืชื• ื˜ื‘ื— ื•ืœืกืžื•ืš ืขืœื™ื• ื›ืœืœ, ื•ื›ืŸ ื–ื” ื›ืชื‘ ื”ืจื”ืฉ ื–”ืœ ื‘ืชืฉื•’ ื›ืœืœ ื›’ (ื“ื™ืŸ ื›”ื˜), ื•ืืขืคื™”ื› ื”ื‘ื™ื ืข”ื– ื”ืฉ”ืš ืฉื ื‘ืก”ืง ืœ”ื’ ื“ื‘ืจื™ ื”ืžื”ืจื™”ื• ื“ื‘ืื“ื ื“ื™ื“ื•ืข ืฉื”ื•ื ื™”ืฉ ื•ืžื“ืงื“ืง ื‘ืžืขืฉื™ื• ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืืžืจื™ื ืŸ ื‘ื™’ ื“ื•ื“ืื™ ืžืฉื’ื” ื”ื•ื ื•ืœื ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ื“ืœืžื ื”ื“ืจ ื‘ื™’, ื•ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื”ืžื•ื–ื›ืจ ื‘ืฉ”ืก ื“ื•ื“ืื™ ืืคืฉืจ ืœืžื™ืžืจ ื‘ื™’ ืฉื˜ืขื” ื“ื›ืŸ ื”ื™’ ื”ืืžืช ื‘ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ืฉื”ื™’ ื˜ืขื•ืช, ื•ืขื™ื™”ืฉ ื‘ืคื ”ื™ ืฉื‘ื™ืืจ ืขื ื™ืŸ ื”ื˜ืขื•ืช ื‘ื–ื”, ื•ื‘ืฉืืจ ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ืžืžืชื™ื ืŸ ืœื™’ ื‘ืืžืช ืขื“ ืฉื™ื–ื›ื•ืจ, ื•ื‘ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ืžื‘ื•ืืจ ืฉื ื‘ืจืฉื‘”ื ื•ื˜ื•ืฉ”ืข ื‘ืกื™’ ื”ื ”ืœ ืฉืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ืžื™ื“ ื•ืื™ืŸ ืžืžืชื™ื ื™ืŸ ืœื• ื›ืœืœ ืœื”ื–ื›ื™ืจื•, ื•ืœืžื” ื ื•ืฆื™ื ืื“ื ื›ืฉืจ ืžื—ื–ืงืชื• ืœื”ื›ืœื™ืžื• ื•ืœืกืœืงื• ืื ืืคืฉืจ ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉื˜ืขื” ื•ืื™ืŸ ื‘ื• ืฆื“ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื›ืœืœ, ื‘ืคืจื˜ ื‘ืฆื“ื™ืง ื’ืžื•ืจ ื›ืฉืžื•ืืœ ื”ืงื˜ืŸ ื•ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ืชื™ืงืŸ ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื•ืื™ืœื• ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืžืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ื” ืื– ื”ื™ื• ืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื•ื”ื™ื• ื—ื•ืฉื“ื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื“ืœืžื ื”ื“ืจ ื‘ื™’ ื•ื—”ื• ืžื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื, ื•ืœื“ืขืช ื”ืจ”ื™ ื”ื™’ ืžืกื•ืœืง ืœืขื•ืœื ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืชื™ื›ืฃ ื•ืžื™ื“, ื•ืข”ื› ืฉื”ื—ืžื™ืจื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื—ืฉืฉื ื“ืžื™ื ื•ืช ืžื‘ืฉืืจ ืขื‘ื™ืจื•ืช ืืฃ ื‘ืกืคื™ืงื ื ื’ื“ ื—ื–ืงื” ื“ืžืขื™ืงืจื ื•ืฉืื ื™ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื“ืžืฉื›ื ื•ื—ืžื•ืจ ื˜ื•ื‘ื].

    ื•ืขื›”ืค ื›ื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืžื‘ื•ืืจ ื‘ื’ืžืจื ื•ืฉื•”ืข ื“ืจืง ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœ ืฉืžื•ื ืข ืขืฆืžื• ืžืœืงืœืœ ืืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื•ืืฃ ืฉื™ื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฉืื™ื ื• ืืœื ื˜ืขื•ืช ืž”ืž ืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื•, ื”ื› ื›ืฉ”ื› ืžื™ ืฉืžื’ืœื” ื“ืขืชื• ื‘ืคื™’ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืงืœืœื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื”ืกืชืคืง ื‘ื• ืฉืžื ืฉื›ื— ื•ื˜ืขื”, ื•ืง”ื• ื‘ืžื™ ืฉื“ืจื›ื• ืขื•ื“ ืœืฉื‘ื—ื ื•ืœื—ื–ืงื ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืฉืฆืจื™ืš ืœืกืœื• ืžื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื‘ืงื“ื•ืฉื”, ื•ืืฆ”ืœ ืฉืœื ื™ื”ื™’ ืจื‘ ื•ืžื•ืจื” ื‘ื™ืฉืจืืœ.

    ื•ื”ื› ืื•ืชื• ื”ืื™ืฉ ื”ื ื–ื›ืจ ืœืขื™ืœ ืฉื–ื” ื“ืจื›ื• ืœื—ื–ืง ื•ืœืจื•ืžื ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื”ื—ืœื•ืฆื™ื ื”ื›ื•ืคืจื™ื ื‘ืืœืงื™ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืคืจื”ืกื™ื ื•ื‘ืคื•ืžื‘ื™, ื–ื” ื‘ืœื‘ื“ ืžืกืคื™ืง ืœื‘ื™ืจื•ืจ ื”ื”ืœื›ื” ืฉื”ื—ื™ื•ื‘ ืœืกืœืงื• ื•ืœื”ืจื—ื™ืงื• ืžื›ืœ ื‘ื™ืช ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ืง”ื• ืื—ืจื™ ืฉื‘ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ื• ื”ืืœื™ืœื™ื, ืขื•ื“ ื”ืจื‘ื” ื’ื™ืœื•ืœื™ื, ื‘ืจ”ื” ื•ื‘ืจื””ื™ ื™ื—ื™ื“ื• ืฉืœ ืขื•ืœื, ื•ื”ืจืื” ืœื“ืขืช, ื“ื›ืœ ืฉื›ืŸ ื“ืคืงืจ ื˜ืคื™ ื‘ื›ืœ ืžื™ื ื™ ืžืจืื•ืช ื ื’ืขื™ื ื•ืฆืจืขืช, ื•ืขืœ ื”ื›ืœืœ ื›ื•ืœื• ื™ืฆื, ืœื›ืคื•ืจ ื‘ืชื•ืจื” ืฉื‘ื›ืชื‘ ื•ื‘ืข”ืค ื•ื‘ืขื™ืงืจื™ ื”ืืžื•ื ื” ืœืชืช ืื•ืชื ืœืฉืžืฆื”, ืชื• ืื™ืŸ ืกืคืง ื›ื™ ื”ื•ืจืืชื• ื•ื›ืœ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื• ื•ืขื ื™ื ื™ื• ื˜ืžืื™ื ื•ืžื˜ืžืื™ื, ื•ืืฉืจ ื™ืจื—ื™ืงื• ืžืžื ื• ื‘ืœื‘ ืชืžื™ื, ื‘ืขื–ืจ ืืœืงื™ ื™ื”ื™ื• ื ืงื™ื™ื, ื•ื”ืžืชื—ื‘ืจื™ื ืืœื™ื• ืžื—ืžืช ื“ื•ื—ืง ืžืžื•ืŸ, ื•ืžืฉืชื—ื•ื™ื ืœืื’ื•ืจืช “ื›ืกืฃ” ืชื—ื™ืœืช ื—ื™ืžื•ืฅ “ื”ื›ืกื™ืคื•” ืคื ื™ื”ื ืœืื‘ื™ื”ื ืฉื‘ืฉืžื™ื, ื•ืกื•ืคื ืœื‘ืืจ ืฉื—ืช ื‘ื•ืจ ืจื™ืง ืื™ืŸ ื‘ื• ืžื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื ื—ืฉื™ื ื•ืงืจื‘ื™ื ื‘ื”ื ืœื”ื˜ื•ืช ื—”ื• ืœื‘ื‘ื•ืช ื‘ื ”ื™ ืžื“ืจืš ื”ื—ื™ื™ื, ืจ”ืœ, ื•ืืžืจื• ื—ื›ื–”ืœ (ืคืกื—ื™ื ื“ืฃ ื›”ื” ืข”ื) ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืชืจืคืื™ืŸ ื—ื•ืฅ ืžืขืฆื™ ืืฉื™ืจื”, ื•ืœื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืื™ื ื• ื”ื’ื•ืŸ ืืฃ ืžื—ืžืช ืฉืืจ ืžืขืฉื™ื• ืจืขื™ื ืฉืื™ื ื ืฉืœ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ืืคื™ืงื•ืจืกื•ืช ืงืจืื• ื—ื›ืžื™ื ื• ื–”ืœ (ืกื ื”ื“ืจื™ืŸ ื“ืฃ ื–’ ืข”ื‘) ืืฉื™ืจื”, ื•ืงืœ ื•ื—ื•ืžืจ ื‘ื™ืช ื’ืื™ื ืฉืœ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื›ืคื™ืจื” ืืžืจื• ื—ื›ืžื™ื ื• ื–”ืœ ื‘ืžืกื›ืช ืฉื‘ืช ื“ืฃ ืงื˜”ื– ืฉืืคื™ืœื• ืื“ื ืจื•ื“ืฃ ืื—ืจื™ื• ืœื”ืจื’ื• ื•ื ื—ืฉ ืจืฅ ืื—ืจื™ื• ืœื”ื›ื™ืฉื• ื ื›ื ืก ืœื‘ื™ืช ืฉืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื–ืจื” ื•ืื™ื ื• ื ื›ื ืก ืœื‘ืช ื™ื”ืŸ ืฉืœ ืืœื• ืฉืืœื• ืื™ืŸ ืžื›ื™ืจื™ืŸ ื•ื›ื•ืคืจื™ืŸ ื•ืืœื• ืžื›ื™ืจื™ืŸ ื•ื›ื•ืคืจื™ืŸ, ื•ื”ื› ืžื•ื˜ื‘ ืœื”ื ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื ืžื›ืจ ืœืข”ื– ืขืฆืžื” ื•ืœื ืœืžื™ืŸ ื•ืืคื™ืงื•ืจืก, ืฉื•ืจืฉ ืคื•ืจื” ืจืืฉ ื•ืœืขื ื” ื•ืืฉื›ืœื•ืช ืžืจื•ืจื•ืช, ื•ืืฉืจ ื‘ื”’ ื™ืฉื™ื ืžื‘ื˜ื—ื• ื™ืื™ืจ ืืœื™ื• ื ื•ืจื ืชื”ืœื•ืช, ื•ื›ื‘ืจ ื ืชื‘ืืจ ื”ื“ื™ืŸ ื”ืœื›ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจื”, ืฉืžื™ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืจื•ืฆื” ืœืงืœืœ ืืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื‘ืคืจื”ืกื™ื, ื‘ื”ืงืœืœื” ืืฉืจ ืœื”ื ืจืื•ื™’, ืืฃ ืฉื”ื™’ ืฆื“ื™ืง ืžืขื™ืงืจื, ืฉืชื™ืงื” ื–ื• ืžืขื™ื“ื” ืขืœื™ื• ืฉื‘ื ื‘ื—ื–ืจื”, ื•ื ืชืคืก ื‘ืื•ืชื” ืขืฆื” ื”ื ื‘ืขืจื”, ืœื—ื‘ืง ื—ื™ืง ื ื›ืจื™’, ื”ื™ื ื”ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื”ืืจื•ืจื”, ื”ืฉื™”ืช ื™ืจื—ื ืœืขืงืจื”, ืœืฉืจืฉื” ืœื‘ืขืจื”, ื•ืืœ ื™ื•ืกื™ืคื• ืขื•ื“ ืœื“ืื‘ื”, ืœื ืคืฉื•ืช ื‘ื ”ื™ ื”ื ืื ื—ื™ื ื‘ืœื‘ ื•ืจื•ื— ื ืฉื‘ืจื”, ื•ื ืคืฉื ื—ืฉืงื” ื‘ืชื•ืจื”, ื”ืฉื™”ืช ื™ื•ืฆื™ืื ื• ืžืืคื™ืœื” ืœืื•ืจื”.

    ื•ืืชื ื‘ื ”ื™ ื”ื™ืจืื™ื ื•ื”ื—ืจื“ื™ื, ื—ื–ืงื• ื•ืืžืฆื•, ืื™ืฉ ืืช ืจืขื”ื• ื™ืขื–ื•ืจื• ื•ื”ื—ืœืฉ ื™ืืžืจ ื’ื‘ื•ืจ ืื ื™ ืœืœื—ื•ื ืžืœื—ืžื•ืช ื”’ ืœื”ืขื‘ื™ืจ ืžืžืฉืœืช ื–ื“ื•ืŸ ืžืŸ ื”ืืจืฅ ื•ืœื”ืกื™ืจ ื”ืืฉื™ืจื” ื”ื–ืืช ืžืžืงื•ื ื”ืงื“ื•ืฉ, ื•ื”ืฉื™”ืช ื™ืชืŸ ืœื›ื ืจื—ืžื™ื, ื‘ืœื‘ ืฉืจื™ื ื•ืžืœื›ื™ื, ืฉืœื ืœื”ืฉืœื™ื˜ ืขื•ื“ ืฉื‘ื˜ ื”ืจืฉืข ืขืœื™ื›ื, ืขื“ ื™ืฉืงื™ืฃ ื•ื™ืจื ื”’ ื‘ืขื ื™ื ื•, ื•ื‘ืžืขื’ืœื™ ืฆื“ืง ื™ื ื—ื™ื ื•, ื•ืžืฆืจื” ืœืจื•ื—ื” ื™ื•ืฆื™ืื ื•, ื•ืžืชื•ืš ื—ืฉื™ื›ื” ื™ืื™ืจ ืขื™ื ื™ื ื•, ื‘ื™ืฉื•ืขื•ืชื• ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื” ืœืฉืžื—ื™ื ื•, ื‘ืฉืžื—ืช ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ื•ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ืœืขื‘ื“ื• ืฉื ื‘ืฉืžื—ื” ื•ืœื‘ื‘ ื˜ื•ื‘.

    ื”ื“ ื”ื›ื•ืชื‘ ื•ื ืื ื— ืžืฆืคื” ืœืจื—ืžื™ ืฉืžื™ื ื•ืœื™ืฉื•ืขืช ื›ืœ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ื‘ืžื”ืจื”, ื™ื•ื ื”’ ืœืก’ ื•ื–ืืช ืขืฉื• ืœื”ื ื•ื—ื™ื• ืœ”ื˜ ืœืžื‘ื ”ื™ ืชืจืค”ื– ืœืค”ืง, ืคืง”ืง ืงืจืืœื™ ื™ืฆ”ื•

    ื”ืง’ ื™ื•ืืœ ื˜ื™ื™ื˜ืœื‘ื•ื™ื

    ืกื™ืžืŸ ืงืœื‘
    ื‘ืข”ื”, ื›”ื“ ืืœื•ืœ ื™ื•ื ื’ ื“ืกืœื™ื—ื•ืช ื”ืชืจืฆ”ื‘ ืœืค”ื’, ืคื” ืขืœ ื”ืกืคื™ื ื”

    ื›ืืฉืจ ื–ื›ื™ืชื™ ืช”ืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ืขื™ื””ืง ืชื•ื‘ื‘”ื ื•ืœื—ื‘ื‘ ืื””ืง, ืฉืืœื•ื ื™ ืจื‘ื™ื ื•ื›ืŸ ืฉืœืžื™ื ืข”ื“ ื”ืจื‘ ืงื•ืง ื”ืขื•ืžื“ ื‘ืจืืฉ ืœื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ื’ื‘ื•ืœ ื”ืฆื™ื•ื ื™ื ื•ื”ืžื–ืจื—ื™ื ื”ื˜ืžืื™ื ื•ื”ืžื˜ืžืื™ื ืจ”ืœ, ืืฉืจ ืœื“ืื‘ื•ืŸ ืœื‘ื™ื ื• ื”ืŸ ื”ืžื” ื”ืืจื™ื›ื• ืงื™ืฆื™ื ื• ื•ื”ืฉืจื™ืฉื• ืฉื•ืจืฉ ืคื•ืจื” ืจืืฉ ื•ืœืขื ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื”ื›ืคื™ืจื” ืจ”ืœ ื‘ืื””ืง, ื•ื–ื” ืื™ื–ื” ืฉื ื™ื ืืฉืจ ืจืื™ืชื™ ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื ืฉืœ ื›ื‘ื•ื“ ื™ื“ื™ื“ื™ื™ ื”ืจื‘ ื”ื’ื””ืฆ ื”ืื‘ื“ืง”ืง ืกืื˜ืžืืจ ื–”ืœ ( ื”ืจื‘ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื ื’ืจื™ื ื•ื•ืืœื“-ื–ื›ืจื•ืŸ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื) ื•ืœื”ื‘ืœ”ื— ื”ืจื‘ ื”ื’ื””ืฆ ื”ืื‘ื“ืง”ืง ืงืืฉื•ื™ื ืฉืœื™ื˜”ื (ื”ืจื‘ ืฉืื•ืœ ื‘ืจืืš-ืžืฉืžืจืช ืืœืขื–ืจ) ื•ืขื•ื“ ืžืฉืืจ ื’ืื•ื ื™ื ื•ืฆื“ื™ืงื™ื ืฉื‘ืžื“ื™ื ื•ืช ืื—ืจื•ืช ืฉื—ืจืฆื• ืขืœื™ื• ืžืฉืคื˜ื• ืฉืืกื•ืจ ืœื™ืงื— ื”ื•ืจืื” ืžืคื™ื• ื•ื—ืœื™ืœื” ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืขืžื•, ื•ืžืงืฆืชื ืฉืœ ืžื›ืชื‘ื™ื ืืœื• ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื“ืคืกื•, ื’ื ืื ื›ื™ ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ืื– ื‘ื–ื” ื‘ืืจื™ื›ื•ืช (ืข’ ื‘ืกื™’ ื”ืงื•ื“ื) ื›ืืฉืจ ื”ื™’ ืœืžืจืื” ื™ื ื™ ื—ื™ื‘ื•ืจื™ ืขืฆื‘ื™ื ืฉืœื• ื”ืžืœืื™ื ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื›ืคื™ืจื” ืจ”ืœ, ื•ืžืžืฉ ื‘ื•ื˜ื” ื›ืžื“ืงื™ืจื•ืช ื—ืจื‘ ื‘ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื—ื“ื™ื ืขืœ ื”’ ื•ืขืœ ืžืฉื™ื—ื•, ื•ืขืœ ื–ื” ื“ื•ื” ืœื‘ ื”ืžืืžื™ืŸ ื‘ื”ืฉื™”ืช ื•ื‘ืชื•ืจืชื• ื”ืงื“ื•ืฉื” ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื ื•ืจื, ืื‘ืœ ืขื•ื“ ื’ืจื•ืข ืžื–ื” ืžืขืฉื™ื• ื”ืจืขื™ื ืืฉืจ ืžืžืฉื™ืš ืœื‘ ื”ืขื ื•ื‘ื ื™ ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื™ืงืจื™ื ืœืจืฉืช ื”ืžื–ืจื—ื™ื ื•ื‘ืชื™ ืกืคืจื™ื”ื ืืฉืจ ื”ืŸ ื”ืžื” ื”ืžื—ืจื™ื‘ื™ื ื™ืกื•ื“ื•ืช ืื””ืง ื•ืžื˜ื™ืœื™ื ืืจืก ื‘ื™ืœื“ื™ ื‘ื ื™ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืœื—ื ื›ื ื‘ื“ืจื›ื™ ื”ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ืœืกื•ืจ ืžืขื™ืงืจื™ ื•ื™ืก ื•ื“ื™ ื“ืชื•ื””ืง, ื•ืื™ืŸ ืœื”ืืจื™ืš ื‘ื”ื ื›ื™ ื›ื‘ืจ ื ื•ื“ืข ืืฉืจ ืžื™ืกื•ื“ ืžื™ื ื”ืจืขื™ื ืžืงื•ืจื ื•ืžื™ื•ื ืฉื ื™ืชื ื” ืชื•ืจื” ืœื™ืฉืจืืœ ืœื ื”ื™’ ื™ืกื•ื“ ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื›ืืœื” ืืฉืจ ื”ื“ื™ื—ื• ืืœืคื™ื ื ืคืฉื•ืช ืžื™ืฉืจืืœ ืœื›ืคื•ืจ ื‘ื”’ ื•ื‘ืชื•ืจืชื• ื”ืงื“ื•ืฉื”, ื•ืœื ื™ืกืชืคืง ื‘ื–ื” ืœื‘ ืืžืช ืืฉืจ ื”ืขื•ืžื“ ื‘ืฆื™ื“ื ืœื”ืจื—ื™ื‘ ื’ื‘ื•ืœื ื’ืจื•ืข ืžื”ื.

    ื•ืžื‘ื•ืืจ…(ื”ืขื ื™ืŸ ืžื‘ื•ืืจ ื‘ืกื™ืขืฃ ื”ื ”ืœ)

    ืขื›”ืค ืื ื• ืจื•ืื™ื ื”ื—ื•ืžืจื ื”ืขืฆื•ืžื” ืฉื”ื—ืžื™ืจื• ื—ื›ืžื™ื ื• ื–”ืœ ื‘ื–ื”, ื“ืžื™ ืฉืฉื•ืชืง ืžืœืงืœืœ ืืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ืืฃ ืฉืืคืฉืจ ืœื“ื•ื ื• ื’ื ืœื›ืฃ ื–ื›ื•ืช ืž”ืž ืœื ื™ื•ืขื™ืœื• ืœื• ื›ืœ ืฆื“ืงื•ืชื™ื• ื•ืžืกืœืงื™ืŸ ืื•ืชื• ื‘ืจื‘ื™ื ืœืžืขืŸ ืœื ื™ืžืฉื›ื• ืื—ืจื™ื• ื‘ื™ืช ื™ืฉืจืืœ, ื•ืง”ื• ื‘ื™ืžื™ ืฉืžืฉื‘ื— ื•ืžืจื•ืžื ืื•ืชื ื•ืžืžืฉื™ืš ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื”ืขื ืื—ืจ ื“ืขืช ื”ืžื™ื ื™ื ื”ืžืคื•ืจืกืžื™ื ืจ”ืœ, ืฉื—ืœื™ืœื” ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืขืžื• ื•ืœืฉืžื•ืข ื”ื•ืจืื” ืžืคื™ื• ืœื ื“ื‘ืจ ื•ืœื ื—ืฆื™ ื“ื‘ืจ.

    ื•ื‘ืขื•”ื” ื”ืŸ ืจื‘ื™ื ืขืชื” ื”ื ืžืฉื›ื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื• ื•ื ื’ืจืจื™ื ืื‘ืชืจื™’, ืื‘ืœ ืืฃ ืื ื™ืชืงื‘ืฆื• ื›ืœ ื”ืจื•ื—ื•ืช ืฉื‘ืขื•ืœื ืœื ื™ื•ื›ืœื• ืœื–ื•ื– ืื•ืช ืื—ืช ืžื”ืชื•ื””ืง ื•ืžื” ืฉื”ื•ื ื‘ืจื•ืจ ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ ื—ื›ืžื™ื ื• ื–”ืœ ื•ื”ืคื•ืกืงื™ื, ื•ื‘ืืžืช ื”ืจื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืžื” ืฉื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ื›ืืŸ ื™ืฉ ื‘ื–ื” ื‘ื“ื‘ืจื™ ืฉ”ืก ื•ืคื•ืกืงื™ื, ืืš ื‘ืขื•”ื” ื‘ืขืงื‘ื ื“ืžืฉื™ื—ื ื”ื ืกื™ื•ื ื•ืช ืžืจื•ื‘ื™ื ื”ืžืกืžื™ื ืืช ื”ืขื ื™ื ื•ื”ืจื‘ื” ืกื™ื‘ื•ืช ื‘ื–ื” ื”ืžื˜ืขื™ื ืœื‘ ื”ืขื ืฉื”ื ืœืคื•ืจื˜ื, ื•ืžืฆื•ืจืฃ ืœื–ื” ื ืกื™ื•ืŸ ื”ืขื•ื ื™ ื”ืžืขื‘ืจืช ืขืœ ื“ืขืช ืงื•ื ื• ื›ืž”ืฉ ื—ื›ื–”ืœ (ืขื™ืจื•ื‘ื™ืŸ ื“ืฃ ืž”ื ืข”ื‘), ืื‘ืœ ื”ืื™ืฉ ื”ื ืœื‘ื‘ ื™ืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ืืžื•ื ืชื• ื•ื™ืฆื™ืœ ื ืคืฉื• ืžื“ืจืš ื”ืžื‘ื™ื ืœื‘ืืจ ืฉื—ืช ืจ”ืœ, ื•ื”ื™’ ื›ืœ ื”ื ืฉืืจ ื‘ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ื•ื‘ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื ืื•ืชื ืืฉืจ ืœื ื›ืจืขื• ืœื‘ืขืœ ื”ืžื™ื ื•ืช ื•ื”ื›ืคื™ืจื” ืจ”ืœ, ื”ืฉื™”ืช ื™ื”ื™’ ื‘ืขื–ืจื ื•ื™ืฆื™ืœื ืžื›ืœ ื”ืงืžื™ื ืขืœื™ื”ื, ื•ื™ื—ื–ืงื ื•ื™ืืžืฆื ื›ื™ ื™ืชืŸ ืืช ืจื•ื—ื• ื‘ื”ื, ื‘ืฉื•ื‘ื• ืืช ืฉื‘ื•ืชื ืœืขื™ื ื™ื”ื, ืœืจืื•ืช ื‘ืฉืžื—ืชืŸ ืฉืœ ื›ืœ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืื—ื™ื”ื.

    ื”ื“ ื”ื›ื•”ื— ื”ืžืฆืคื” ืœืจื—ืžื™ ืฉืžื™ื, ืœื”ืชื”ืœืš ืœืคื ื™ ื”’ ื‘ืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื, ืœื”ืื™ืจ ืขื™ื ื™ื, ื‘ืชื•ืจืช ืืœืงื™ื ื—ื™ื™ื, ื•ื ื–ื›ื” ื‘ืžื”ืจื” ืœืจืื•ืช ื‘ืฉืžื—ืช ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ื•ื™ืจื•ืฉืœื™ื

    ื”ืง’ ื™ื•ืืœ ื˜ื™ื™ื˜ืœื‘ื•ื™ื

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081379
    ujm
    Participant

    Logician, how young are you that when you are younger adults were already spending a considerable amount of time communicating on computers?

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081329
    ujm
    Participant

    n0mesorah: So help me out and quote specifically which peer said exactly what in backlash to Rav Elchonon Wasserman hy’d’s statements regarding Rabbi Kook.

    It is worth noting that Rav Elchonon was the eternally loyal Talmid Muvik of the Chofetz Chaim (the paragon of Shemiras Halashon himself), who spent his life disseminating his Rebbiโ€™s Torahs. When the Chofetz Chaim was considering moving to Eretz Yisroel, Rav Chaim Ozer asked him who will take care of Klal Yisroel in Chutz Laaretz if he leaves. The Chofetz Chaim answered, โ€œWhat do you mean? You have Reb Elchonon!โ€

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081304
    ujm
    Participant

    Kuvult, the father with vaisa zuken who sends his kids to Satmar lives in Williamsburg whereas the father with the kipa sruga who sends his kids to YU High School lives in Teaneck. Which family would be forced to move and change their kids to the other school to achieve your goal?

    in reply to: Denigrating Gedolim #2081185
    ujm
    Participant

    y1836: You cannot fault Yidden today who accept and take what Rav Elchonon Wasserman hy’d (and the Satmar Rebbe ztvk’l) said and share these Gedolei Hador’s open and very publicly expressed views on this, and express and hold the same as them.

    in reply to: Dejavu #2081183
    ujm
    Participant

    You’re seeing their previous gilgul as well.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081172
    ujm
    Participant

    Kuvult, you got it right as a child and wrong as an adult. I dunno where you daven, but I daven in many places where Yeshivish, Chasidish and MO Yidden all daven together in the same minyanim, in great harmony. I think you’ve read to many blogs and websites and therefore ended up too cynical.

    in reply to: ืฉื ื”ืฉื ื‘ืชืคื™ืœื™ืŸ #2081143
    ujm
    Participant

    Under proper circumstances, we should be wearing Tefilin all day.

    in reply to: 2 Luchos on Shovuos? #2081140
    ujm
    Participant

    Being a lefty is a mum. There’s no reason to suspect Moshe had such a mum.

    in reply to: Dejavu #2081138
    ujm
    Participant

    It is from your previous gilgul.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081058
    ujm
    Participant

    It depends who you’re judging. You’re not supposed to be dan lkaf zchus everyone. For example, someone like David Ben Gurion or Ehud Barak, you must be dan lkaf chov.

    in reply to: Girl summer tour #2081052
    ujm
    Participant

    1. No one judged here.

    2. As Yidden, we are supposed to judge.

    3. So the correct question you should have asked is, why haven’t you judged?

    in reply to: Girl summer tour #2081011
    ujm
    Participant

    What happened to simplicity?

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081009
    ujm
    Participant

    “And anyway who said we should judge in the first place??”

    Hashem commanded us to judge others.

    in reply to: Local elected frum people #2081003
    ujm
    Participant

    Avi: What is your objection? What Pirkei Avos says about this?

    ujm
    Participant

    Avi: The problem is that you think since your family left the shtetl you are free to abandon the Yiddishkeit we practiced in the shtetl.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2080966
    ujm
    Participant

    YungermanS: Why do you accuse Klal Yisroel of not having done Teshuva?

    ujm
    Participant

    lakewhut: I’m a holocaust survivor family. Yes, like most of pre-holocaust Yidden, we lived in the shtetl. Why do you hate shtetl Yidden? The way Yidden lived in the shtetl, is the way Yidden should live today.

    in reply to: 2 Luchos on Shovuos? #2080847
    ujm
    Participant

    Reb Zev, you’re also happy about the drawings of Moshe Rabbeinu wearing a shtreimal, right?

    P.S. Good answer, by the way.

    P.P.S. Hint – The answer to my question is yes.

    in reply to: The Latest in Democrat Craziness #2080844
    ujm
    Participant

    You can speak to him, then.

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2080841
    ujm
    Participant

    1. That I’ll grow up and become a fireman.

    2. That my Totty was bigger and could beat up your Totty.

    ujm
    Participant

    The so-called holocaust day established by the atheist state is a meaningless farce.

    in reply to: The Latest in Democrat Craziness #2080727
    ujm
    Participant

    huju: When will you visit his Kever?

    in reply to: Meron 2022 #2080521
    ujm
    Participant

    Because the government has a political need to demonstrate they’re doing something big.

    in reply to: The Longest Seder Contest๏ฟฝHow Late Will Your Seder End? #2080520
    ujm
    Participant

    “why?”

    Reb Eliezer understands the question why.

    ujm
    Participant

    Shalom/OP: The mistake you’re making with all these threads is your assumption that the Israeli government and state is any more Jewish or Judaism oriented than the government or state in Singapore.

    in reply to: The Longest Seder Contest๏ฟฝHow Late Will Your Seder End? #2080339
    ujm
    Participant

    Everyone please share what time your Seder ended this year.

    in reply to: How much hand shmurah matzah should I buy? #2080337
    ujm
    Participant

    I like eating hand matzah all year.

    in reply to: The Latest in Democrat Craziness #2080336
    ujm
    Participant

    daddy noun
    dadยทโ€‹dy | \ หˆda-dฤ“ \
    plural daddies
    Definition of daddy
    1: FATHER sense 1a
    2: GRANDDADDY sense 2

    Synonyms for daddy
    dad, father, old man, pa, papa (also poppa), pater [chiefly British], pop, sire

    in reply to: Local elected frum people #2080335
    ujm
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    Joe Lieberman, who originally called himself Orthodox, later changed his description to not be Orthodox not rather traditional, as his public positions often were against Torah Judaism.

    Pirkei Avos has a comment regarding public officials.

    in reply to: Elon Musk Buying Twitter #2080167
    ujm
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    OCC: The government can regulate content and ownership of broadcast media since they utilize public airwaves, which is a public owned resource. The government constitutionally cannot regulate the content or ownership of digital media, social media or print media unless the First Amendment is repealed.

    in reply to: enough of trump #2079778
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    To Dems, a leftist like Chuckie Schumer they think is “center” in their minds. Anything not as far left as Chuckie, they think is “right-wing”. They even think McCain and Romney are right wingers.

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