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Those that don’t eat it hold it IS treif(or rather it may be treif and therefore treat it as such), that’s why they don’t eat it. It’s got nothing to do with glatt.
Not necessarily.
I don’t eat it because I prefer to maintain a higher standard for myself. But I would NEVER tell someone who was eating HN that he was eating treif. The same goes for any number of lesser-known hashgachos.
The Wolf
Nah, I just used code so that I could use the “Linda Richman” tag without messing up the board. I had no idea it was going to add the br tags on it’s own.
Thanks for fixing it.
[ Maxwell Smart ]
Sorry about that, chief.
[ /Maxwell Smart ]
The Wolf
To bring back an old memory:
<Linda Richman>
I’m all verklempt. I can’t talk. Talk amongst yourselves. I’ll give you a topic. Rhode Island is neither a road, nor an island. Discuss.
</Linda Richman>
The Wolf
it would still be assur to flick a switch on or off (al pi boneh, not just muktza).
I had never even considered that. That’s quite interesting.
The Wolf
A good price is one you can afford.
Don’t go into debt for sleep-away camp.
The Wolf
yes but people do see past it. It may take time, but c’mon , i hope were not all THAT superficial.
The fact that people will reject other people sight-unseen because they don’t wear the uniform without even bothering to examine if there are other positive traits that the person has clearly shows that we ARE that superficial.
Sadly.
The Wolf
:: blushing ::
Thanks, BP. No, I didn’t Google it (if I did, I wouldn’t have left any unanswered.)
The Wolf
MIXED SWIMMING IS AVEZRAI LZUNUS! Its ASSUR 100%
Klazno,
If mixed swimming is forbidden because it’s “AVEZRAI LZUNUS,” then why can’t I do it in private with my wife when she’s not a niddah? *That’s* what we’re talking about, not “stam” mixed swimming.
After all, hugging another woman is also likely “AVEZRAI LZUNUS” and yet I can certainly hug my wife when she’s not a niddah.
The Wolf
OK, kavod hatorah, please explain to me what the problem is.
And, please don’t tell me I don’t see the problem — I don’t go up to the mountains so I certainly don’t (through no fault of my own).
So, please tell me what, exactly, is the problem that you’re so worked up about.
The Wolf
Bring it on. Let’s here you’re refutations to the proofs I’ve written about
1. Eisav sonei l’Yaakov. In today’s times we see it in the nations’ illogical hatred towards Israel. Why the neverending baseless hatred towards the Jews?
Do you think that Jew hatred is the only illogical long-standing hatred in the world today?
But it doesn’t matter, because even if I grant you that it is, I don’t see how this proves the Torah is divine. All it proves is that a lot of people hate us for a long time.
2. The Torah laws are applicable even in today’s time, approximately 3,000 years after it was given. We’re not talking about two, three laws, we’re talking about tens of laws applicable each day for each Jewish male, less for women per day, but still hundreds of laws dating back to when the Torah was given. Shabbos, dairy/meat, kosher, etc. This is amazing and would never work would the laws be concocted by mere mortals.
Why do you say that? There are several religions that are of the same approximate age as Judaism — and they, too, have rules and regulations about their lives.
But, this too, doesn’t matter. Because even if I grant you that Judaism is the *only* religion to meet this criteria, all it proves is that Jews believe them to be incumbent. It doesn’t even prove that Jews believe them to be divine, let alone that they actually are.
3. Frum communities, while they have their share of social problems have major differences in percentage of crimes than the outside world
So do the Amish.
But again, I don’t see how this “proves” the truth of the Torah. All it proves is that some communities are better behaved than others.
The Wolf
Blinky,
For at least some of those, there are good reasons for the “misleading” names:
1. Aproximation.
2. I have no idea.
3. Ditto
4. I’m fairly certain (I could be wrong, however) that this is because the date came out in October in the Julian Calendar.
5. I wouldn’t be surprised (although I could be wrong) if it originally did have camel’s hair
6. Latin for dogs = canus. Hence the word canine.
7. Done out of deference to Queen Victoria. In practice, the British Monarch can choose any of their given names (and they usually have several) as their regnal name.
8. No idea
9. No idea
10. Just as a guess, they may have originally been black and then later changed to orange to increase visibility.
The Wolf
“Even today’s newspaper (meaning its current news) was printed yesterday”
BP Totty,
Yes, today’s newspaper contains yesterday’s news, but there is one important thing to consider — no one expects it to be otherwise. That’s not sheker in my book. It’s akin to saying that you’re not happy with your copy of “The Complete Works of Fill-in-your-favorite-author-here” because it doesn’t include the unpublished short story he wrote in high school. You understand “Complete Works” to mean published works — not every scrap of everything that he ever wrote.
Or, in shorter terms — consider the context.
The Wolf
bottom line i don’t care if you copied it or not, learnt it or not. but if the halacha is a certain way, you shouldn’t have the attitude of “I’m not sure i agree with that psak” who are you to agree or disagree?? and if someone points that out to you don’t take an article from on line distort it to fit your point and say look I’m right, because you’re not!!!
Why can’t I say that *I’m* not sure of the halacha? Just because you say “everyone agrees” does not necessarily make it so. Granted, I don’t know offhand of anyone who disagrees, but that doesn’t rule out the possibility.
But fine, you know what? The points not really worth arguing over. So here goes — EVERY POSEK IN THE WORLD SAYS IT’S OKAY TO COPY AN OUT OF PRINT SEFER.
Happy?
The Wolf
did i call u an apikoros?
Not in so many words. But when you say “Now I see why we shouldn’t debate with an apikoros because they lie, distort…” and then you go on to say that I lied and distorted, I think the implication is clear.
The Wolf
I always wondered why we weren’t supposed to argue with an apikoros?
Are you actually calling me an apikorus because I didn’t want to copy a book???!!
because they distort words, lie, and always feel the need to win!
I may be mistaken, but I don’t think I’ve lied. Don’t ascribe to malice what you can ascribe to ignorance.
And, lastly, I have no desire to feel that I have to win. I’ve conceded defeat on matters on these boards and others before.
does he quote someone who says you can’t? NO
does he say some ppl say you can’t? NO
Fair enough… but he also doesn’t give a firm yes. His using the terms “one should ask a Rav” clearly says to me that there is a possibility of the answer being no.
plans for reprinting, all one has to do is call the publisher and ask are you reprinting this?
Actually, if you read my post, you’d see that I did that (well, actually I emailed them). They no longer had the rights — but that doesn’t mean that the rights holders might not have plans to republish with a different publisher.
Ah, but what the heck. If I’m an apikorus, then it’s probably better that I didn’t copy and re-learn R. Berkovitz’s sefer and besmirch his Torah, right?
The Wolf
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Chesed,
Here’s a site which indicates that it’s not 100% certain that you can. The money quote:
A possible exception to the above is when a book is out of print and no plans for reprinting are underway. One can argue that in such a case the publisher or author has nothing to lose, for there is no possibility for making a sale. Indeed, some poskim advance the argument that the author is pleased when his work is studied or heard by additional people. A rav should be consulted.
(Source: http://www.torah.org/advanced/weekly-halacha/5760/kisavo.html)
Please note the following facts:
1. Rav Neustadt (the author of the article) makes it clear that permission to copy an out of print book is not universal.
2. He predicates this on a number of assumptions that I do not know to be true:
a. That the author (or the rights-holders) would be happy to have the book distributed.
The author is dead. Perhaps he might not want it further distributed. In addition, although I don’t know who owns the rights, someone does in fact own them — and they might mind.
b. No plans for reprinting.
At the time I do not know if the rights-holders had any plans for reprinting — and, in fact, I still don’t know.
So, in the end, I’ll stick by my “maybe, maybe not.” You might, after all, be correct; but I just don’t know that to be the case for sure.
The Wolf
Chesed,
I don’t know of anyone who disagrees. But then again, I’m not an expert in the area and don’t know for a fact that everyone does agree. If you’re sufficiently learned to say so, then fine.
In any event, it still didn’t feel right to me. Even if I was technically permitted to do so, I just didn’t feel right about it – and so I didn’t copy it.
The Wolf
Without knowing where you are, how can we possibly know which set of local laws to apply to your case?
The Wolf
Wolf. You may want to try http://www.hebrewbooks.org for a copy of the sefer.
Thanks. I’m well aware of HebrewBooks.com. In fact, I often use that site when someone in the CR gives me a source and I don’t have a dead tree sefer handy.
However, R. Berkovitz’s sefer was written in English. 🙂
The Wolf
*Sigh*
No one should ever be called an apikorus because they have an honest, legitimate question.
No one should ever use the term “apikorus” to silence an honest, legitimate questioner (which, for most kids and teens is the case) because they are presented a question that they cannot answer or don’t want to confront.
I make it a point with my kids to tell them that they are free to ask me any question. I also make it a point to tell them that I don’t have all the answers and that one (even one in a position of authority like a parent or teacher) should never be afraid to say “I don’t know.” I try to give them the best answers I can and sometimes point them in the direction of someone who might be more qualified than I to answer a particular question.
The Wolf
coping a sefer that’s out of print is fine, all poskim agree to that.
Maybe, maybe not. Plus there’s the fact that the sefer IS still under copyright, even if out of print.
The Wolf
With a book that’s not a problem because nobody copies books
I actually spent quite some time looking for an out of print sefer by Rabbi Eliezer Berkovitz. I eventually found a copy in an out of town library. Once I managed to get the copy from the library, I emailed the publisher asking if I could copy selected portions, only to be told that they no longer had the rights to the book.
So, with the author dead and having no idea who owned the rights to the book plus considering the book was out of print and therefore there were no lost sales to consider, and considering how long it took me to find it, I was *sorely* tempted to copy the book.
In the end, I decided against it. It just didn’t “feel right” to me.
The Wolf
Why are public libraries legal?
IANAL, and this is just a guess, but my gut feeling is that the law specifically allows for libraries. Lending libraries have a looooooong tradition in the US.
The Wolf
Why don’t you take a look at the lease agreement? Try reading it. It really doesn’t make sense
It doesn’t make sense to me, but then again an advanced medical journal or a doctorate’s thesis on quantum mechanics probably wouldn’t make much sense to me either. That doesn’t mean that they’re nonsense.
I have a better idea — take it to an IP lawyer and ask him/her to read it. If it’s still nonsense to a decent IP lawyer, then by all means feel free to call it such. Otherwise, don’t look to me to defend you if you get sued.
The Wolf
And Wolf y do u refer to ur spouse as Eeees?
It’s a nickname.
The Wolf
i believe that a black suit and white shirt is a very respectabel looking uniform, and that’s one reason why they wear it. same with the hat.
i myself would only marry someone who wore this levush because of that reason, not because i think he has better yiddishkeit – i’m just into looking respectable.
But does it necessarily follow that someone who wears a nice, clean, pressed, etc. blue shirt is not looking respectable?
The Wolf
This is off topic, but if you check out most of these lease agreements, they are all mixed up and make no sense.
No sense to you, perhaps, but I’d be willing to bet dollars to donuts that they make perfect sense to lawyers… and to the judge who will be hearing the case.
The Wolf
BTW, a great item to pack is a George Forman grill. We’ve cooked chicken in our hotel room without any odor or smoke and it’s very easy to clean off.
Amen. When Eeees and I went to St. Thomas, we brought one of those with us since the resort we were staying at did not have a kosher kitchen. It’s a great little grill.
The Wolf
mosherose – you’re not serious ARE you? He was cheppering (kibbitzing, teasing) you. Please!
Well, truth to tell, I was saying it to provoke him. However, it is the truth… but that’s only because Wilma* put up the linguine by mistake instead of the spaghetti.
The Wolf
*No, that’s not my daughter’s real name.
It depends on what you’re looking for. If you’re looking for a low-key quiet romantic getaway with your spouse, then yes. If you’re looking for a 5-star resort with all the glitz and glam where you can hit all the hot spots, then it’s not for you.
The Wolf
What is the best attraction in that area?
Don’t know. We really didn’t do a lot of traveling. We spent most of the time at the resort. We did, however, go to a candle factory (sorry, it was almost ten years ago — I don’t remember where or the name) in the area.
The Wolf
I know it’s going to sound trite — but try to calm down and relax. The calmer you seem, the more confident the DMV inspector will be. If he sees you’re highly agitated and/or nervous, then he’s may prejudge that you aren’t ready for the test.
The Wolf
I would tell you, but then I would have to kill you.
Ooooh. Mystery. Intrigue. Suspense.
The CR is better than any mystery novel. 🙂
The Wolf
Color me a bit skeptical. I highly doubt someone chooses to go off the derech solely because they see a slit in a skirt.
The Wolf
Mosherose,
This week we didn’t have meatballs & spaghetti. Happy?
(We had meatballs and linguini instead. 🙂 )
The Wolf
In general, there are only three ways for a person to become a mamzer:
1. Be born of a father or mother who is a mamzer(ess)
2. Be born of a union between a married woman and another man.
3. Be born of a forbidden union which is punishable by kares (with the exception of a man and his wife who is a nidda).
So, to answer your question, the marital status of the father is not a relevant determinant in whether or not the child is a mamzer. So, assuming that neither of the newborn’s parents are not mamzerim, and assuming the woman in question is not otherwise married to another man and assuming they aren’t closely related to each other, the child is not a mamzer.
The Wolf
Does anyone have any suggestions about the poconos? minyan, attractions and a place to stay shabbos?
Eeees and I stayed at Paradise Stream (one of the Caeser’s Poconos resorts). It was very nice — various activities available — and we had a room with our own private pool (not very large, but still private and ours).
They make accommodations for kosher meals (you get the airline-style meals). It’s about a half hour away from Scranton as I recall. We had a great time and wouldn’t mind going back some day.
The Wolf
Whether or not it’s technically permitted according to halacha, ask yourself this question:
If you were the musician, would you be happy with people doing this?
After you determine (or rationalize) that it’s halachically permissible, use that question as your guide as to whether you should or not.
The Wolf
may I suggest that perhaps posts that heavily reference movies and tv series are not befitting YWN?
Glad to see that I can still predict some events. 🙂
The Wolf
I have long been convinced that when the prophet Micha said ????? ???, ??-?????, he wasn’t talking about hemlines and sleeve lengths.
The Wolf
Sigh. And this is stuff I was certain had been spoken.
In that respect, you are correct. If the misquote is popular, then, in all probability, it *has* been spoken (just not by the person it’s attributed to).
The Wolf