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The issue is banning a group of non-Orthodox women who want to use the mens section, often immodestly dressed (by our standards – by Tel Aviv/Manhattan standards they are overdressed), engaging in behaviors we consider to be lewd (singing in front of men).
They are trying to get control of the kossel transferred to non-Orthodox Jews and to have it run as a secular shrine rather than as a Torah site.
akupermaParticipantThe payroll tax is not officially a tax since it is officially considered a premium towards social security, which is officially not a government program but is a type of insurance annuity (okay, if it was a real insurance program, it would be closed down immediately as a ponzi scheme, but that’s a different matter). Even though the tax is highly regressive, the Congress didn’t object since after all, it isn’t a “tax”.
Remember, being a politician is to learn how to put your hands in someones pocket without calling it theft. They’re really quite clever at it.
akupermaParticipantgavra_at_work: Almost everyone in the country is mad at the TSA, so why should Satmar be any different? That they are annoying and rude is widely accepted. The only way to avoid them is to avoid commercial flights.
akupermaParticipantDepending on definition, one can argue that real Hareidim don’t accept money from the government, and are learning in yeshivos that depend on private donations (often from abroad, as has been the case for centuries). Those who don’t accept zionist money will object the most forcefully to conscription, and their protests will seriously hurt Israel’s international standing, and undermine those hareidim, who for ideological or economic reasons, which to serve in the IDF. One solution might be for the government to stop funding yeshivos directly, allow anyone with any sort of “religious” objection to be exempt from military service (no questions asked), and rely on economic incentives to serve in the army (which for hareidim may be offering to pay for veterans, opening hesder-style programs, etc.). Raiding the yeshivos to drag away talmidim will be a disasterous policy. One should remember that as it is, many benefits of the Israeli welfare state are tied to military service, and this could be expanded. Such a policy suggests the army’s willingness to increase accomodation of hareidim, and in effect to “recruit” rather than conscript.
akupermaParticipantNaftush: The conscientious objection argument is that the war is contrary to halacha, and there is therefore no heter to schecht the Arabs – we,not they, are the rodfim. Medinat Yisrael is, by this argument, not a state founded on the basis of Torah, but a secular western state founded on secular western principles of law. This is at its essence, the Neturei Karta argument.
To those who argue that army is “kosher” – ask why the hilonim aren’t complaining about lack of sexual freedom in the army? Ask why they never complain about all the restrictions they have? Ask how the female soldiers whose abortions are a national scandal managed to get pregnant? Ask why “gays” are quite happy to serve? Compare the percentage of religious zionists in the combat units, to the percentage of religious zionists as senior officers, and explain. The army accomodates Jews who are serious about Yiddishkeit by putting them in the rabbinate or in segregated units (similar to the “Buffalo soldiers” in the American army) – if a frum Jews wants to serve in a normal unit, he is expected to accomodate the hilonius.
akupermaParticipantFor a large party, and he usually travels with a large party, a private or charter would probably be cost efficient.
January 14, 2013 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm in reply to: Fertility concerns about a prospective shidduch #920413akupermaParticipantIf you are closely related to both her parents (your cousins), I’d worry and ask.
Hereditary infertility is very unlikely since people with such a trait would quickly vanish from the gene pool.
akupermaParticipant1. The survival of the Jewish people is at stake. Learning Torah is more important. Even if Israel were “driven into the sea”, we would survive because there are Jews throughout the world learning Torah. We’ve been through a lot a tight situations, and the single theme in Jewish history is that Torah and Mitsvos is the key to survival.
2. The IDF is very hostile to Orthodox Jews. In fact, a large percentage of Shomer Shabbos Jews who serve do so only in segregated units where their frumkeit is tolerated, but where they are discriminated against in terms of job assignments and promotions. In general, it is very hard for Orthodox Jews to function in a secular environment in which Shabbos and Kashruth are at best tolerated, and where pritzus is a social norm (which is why some rabbanim poskened the army has a din of a Beis Busha – a view supported by widespread complaints among hiloniiot of sexual harassment). There is also the fact that the IDF has historically seen its job as “modernizing” (a polite way of saying “secularizing”) people in creating a modern secular state – which has great significance by halacha since if you are in a situation where non-observance is being coerced for reasons of undermining yiddishkeit, one is required to have mesiras nefesh even over trivial things (the traditional example is over how one ties one shoes). That means a frum soldier will end up being in a situation of having to give up on mitsvos, or openly oppose orders in an institution where there is seriously “frowned upon”.
3. Some frum Jews question the legitimacy of the State of Israel. If one bases the Jews’ claim to Eretz Yisrael on Torah, you have the problem that it was clearly given for the purpose of doing mitsvos. If there is no halachic basic for the state founded by Hertzl and Ben Gurioun, how it is mutar to kill (or be killed) in defense of that state, noting that in “modern” warfare a soldier often has no control over who he kills. In most western countries, someone with such views would be a conscientious objector and would be exempt from military service – but for Israel to accept such a view as legitimate would be admit that it is a question whether the State of Israel has a valid claim to the Jewish legacy pertaining to Eretz Yisrael (and perhaps it is, as the Arabs claim, an Euro-American ultra-secular colonial regime, and no more).
akupermaParticipantNO ONE has ever claimed that the Karites are not Jewish. That is not an issue (though many Karites are accused of having convinced the the pre-1917 Russians, and then the Nazis, that they weren’t descended from the ancient Jews and therefore shouldn’t be persecuted). However they have always been considered Jews by mainstream Jews, albeit apikoresim.
If the gittim are not proper, they might be considered mamzerim (assuming their marriages were legal) – some have suggested they be considered goyim since it solves the issue of being mazerim.
akupermaParticipantPerhaps. Everyone’s historical traditions (their’s and our’s) say they are not, but the similarities in religious doctrines suggest some connection or influence. Absent a “time machine” no one can know for sure (not that it matters all that much, unless you are into arguing fine points of history).
akupermaParticipantAnytime you do not pay your balance in full by the end of the period, you are borrowing money from the issuer of the credit card (usually a bank), at fairly high interest.
Ignoring the issue of ribis, that interest in compounding at a high rate and over a short period of time the compounded interest becomes a problem in itself.
If you pay off your account on time, you can have up to a six week “free loan” from the credit card company (time between buying the goods/services and paying for them).
January 11, 2013 9:01 pm at 9:01 pm in reply to: Having kids while having a history of genetic disorder #924791akupermaParticipantNote that for recessive traits (such as Tay Sachs and Cystic fibrosis), genetic testing which is widely down in the frum community can prevent a shidduch in which both parents have the trait (which is what is required for a possibility of having a child with the condition), and that even if both parents are carriers, there is only a 25% chance that any given child will have the trace. Due to genetic testing (and arranged marriages), these diseases are increasingly rare in our community. While it is possible, the odds of having 7 out of 10 children display a recessive genetic trait are quite small (it can happen, but is extremely unlikely).
It should also be noted that Cystic fibrosis is treatable, and most people with the disease live until middle age, and in the US, most graduate from university. I’ld question whether killing a kid for having the disease is worth discussing even if allowed. Downs syndrome results in a variety of developmental disabilities, but kids with the disease (which is not a genetic disease) often live to adult hood. The boys get bar mitzvas. They often can be self-supporting with adult but do need family support. Tay Sachs is currently incurable, but that is liable to change. Any psak halacha from more than a few years ago should be considered meaningless since conditions are changing, and the psak should come from a rav who is keeping up on current medical developments.
January 11, 2013 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm in reply to: Having kids while having a history of genetic disorder #924788akupermaParticipantIf you can abort a child on the basis of a pre-natal test showing the child probably has a serious physical or mental deformity, why not allow smothering the child after birth when you can be sure. Even better, why not wait a few years until you can be sure the deformity is all that bad (e.g. some children with Down’s Syndrome are able to go to school and hold down jobs – so why not wait a while) if the kid doesn’t measure up, dispose of him before he drags down the family.
I’m not sure what the Rabbanim would say. However some goyish legal systems have had provisions for getting rid of those whose lives aren’t worth living (if Ha-Shem slips up, maybe we can help by cleaning up the mistakes). The only real problem politically is that the country the led the way in “eugenics” and in supporting elimination of undesirable people from the population had to back track when they lost a war and their enemies decided that such behaviors were illegal and criminal (retroactively, of course).
akupermaParticipantIt involves numerous problems, and I seriously doubt an Orthodox rabbi of any flavor would say it is mutar. If you are looking for a heter, look for one who is not familiar with American goyish customs so he might not be aware of the halachic objections. It is probable that a “modern Orthodox” rabbi, being better informed, would object more strongly.
akupermaParticipant1. I suspect that as Secretary of the Treasury it is unlikely he’ll have any emergencies that require working on Shabbos, unlike his current position as the President’s Chief of Staff which deals with true emergencies. I wouldn’t be surprised if this affected his willingness to accept
whatg is probably a “fool’s errand” since the budget situation is probably hopeless given the realities of partisan politics.
2. His frumkeit isn’t an issue. His economic policies are what many frum Republicans object to (though in all fairness, most frum jobs support “tax and spend” policies – just look at the press releases in YWN celebrating increased “pork” obtained for the frum community).
akupermaParticipant1. Many things have never been translated.
2. Most translations are poor.
3. The goyim has a saying that “translators are traitors”. Translations inherently distort.
4. A good analogy would be to someone who studies a subject on a college level (the person who uses the real text), very someone studying the same subject on a middle school level (the person using a translation).
5. Translations between Hebrew and either Arabic or Aramaic are not necessarily so bad, since those languages are close. Translations to English are especially problematic since English is totally unrelated (English having as much in common with Hebrew as it does with Chinese or Zulu, whereas Hebrew’s relationship to Arabic and Aramaic is similar to English’s relationships with French and German).
akupermaParticipantabcd2: You asked “Why not assume that maybe Lew will help things get better? ” —
because he is a liberal (as are most Orthodox Jews, when it comes to economics), and will therefore implement Obama’s unwise economic policies
akupermaParticipantUnlikely there would be an emergency. Secretaries of Treasury normally work more regular hours, so it won’t be a problem. He primary a budget maven not a banker, and he’ll probably have fewer problems than as the president’s “chief of staff” who might get woken up whenever there is a presidential crisis.
He is the first Shomer Shabbos cabinet secretary (under the Republicans Dov Zackheim was an under-secretary, albeit with a yarmulke in public). In Israel, Orthodox Jews have held cabinet positions, but they got them as patronage rather than based on merit.
“MO” means “Modern ORTHODOX” – he davens at a frum shul, keeps Shabbos and kashruth – that’s pretty much the basic definition of frum.
akupermaParticipantCorrection: In 1949 they were “Beis” (united with the Religious Zionists). When they split for the following election, the Religious Zionists kept “Beis” and Agudah got “Gimmel.”
akupermaParticipantAgudath Israel was one of the original parties in 1949, and they got the “gimel” which has passed on to Yahudus HaTorah. Back then the religious parties were much more unified (okay, the fact that the Communists were the second largest party and threatened to win was a factor in encouraging religious unity – when it finally became apparent that Israel wasn’t going to ally with Stalin, that unity started to break down).
akupermaParticipantIf the person who posted the question is becoming a Baal Tsuvah – there is no issue. No one will challenge that he is Jewish, and even if the did it would be very easy to have a conversion (since conversion of someone who is already frum and discovers they might not be Jewish is extremely uncomplicated).
If the case came before Beis Din in a situation where the woman has a child from the non-Jewish second husband, and that child wanted to become a Baal Tsuvah – most Betei Din (in practice) would be super-critical in looking at the validity of the first marriage and the validity of the conversion in order to avoid ruling that the hypothetical child of the second marriage is a mamzer. Excluding politicized Betei Din in Eretz Yisrael, our courts and rabbanim have always displayed great intelligence and “thinking like a lawyer” to resolve such problems (based on actual cases in printed shailohs and tsuvahs, not based on theoretical treatises).
akupermaParticipantIf the woman had a valid conversion, followed by a valid halachic marriage to a Jew, and subsequently bore a child to a non-Jewish male without have received a “get”, that child would arugably be a “mamzer”. In practice, if the putative mamzer (or his/her descendant)then became a Baal Tseuvah, a Beis Din would look at the validity of the mother’s initial marriage, and the validity of the conversion – since Beitei Din “bend over backwards” to avoid deciding that someone is a mamzer.
Those who said that the status of the non-Jewish father is irrelevant were addressing a situation where the mother is an unmarried Jews whereas in the “question” here she is said to be a woman married according to halacha.
akupermaParticipantThere is overwhelming evidence that the safest and best way to lose weight involves eating less and exercising more.
akupermaParticipant1. The Rishonim obviously thought they themselves were Achronim. Rashi and Rambam thought they were utterly contemporary, modern authors .
2. There is no strict rule. As with all historical classifications, it is subjective.
3. A border of around 1500 seems logical. Before you had a big kehillah and Spain, and afterwards Sefardim were those who had left Spain. Among the Christians, this was the end of the medieval period and the start of the modern period (rise of nation states, Preotestants, etc.). Among the Muslims this was the period where the Turks (rather than the Arabs) rules the Middle East. It was the period in which printing became widespread – and that was a major technological change that affected us more than most, since most goyim were illiterate.
4. Over time such definitions would likely change. If you wait long enough, we’ll probably be considered Rishonim. Playing with the dates that periods began and ended in history is something historians love to do, especially with sufficently strong beverages to encourage discussion (meaning it is about convenience, not substance). I would argue that the period of the 1940s is a major “watershed” in Jewish history, and everything before 1940 is the “past”, and post 1950 is the “present” – and maybe in a few centuries people will see it that way.
akupermaParticipantKovodHabriyos: Kippas only became popular recently. Before that people tended to wear hats more. One should note that until recently, goyim (particularly scholars) would wear a skullcap. In a pre-modern environment when many goyim wore skullcaps, and most goyim wore hats – the kippah didn’t stand out.
akupermaParticipantIf the conversion was valid, it is always valid. All the children of the woman (subsequent to the conversion) are Jewish. The children of the non-Jewish second husband are Jewish but are also probably mamzerim.
akupermaParticipantIt’s a matter of fashion, not halacha. As with all fashions, there is a tremendous sociological and sometimes political issue. However there is no halachic significance – regardless of style or fabric – they all meet the requirements for men to cover their heads.
January 7, 2013 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm in reply to: Insanity!! Netura Karta Sicko Forces His Boys Into Frum Girls School in Antwerp #928790akupermaParticipantIt’s a clever legal strategy. For political reasons, none of the frum schools will let him in (or rather, will let his kids in). So he is making legal mischief for them. It seems that the American style of using litigation as “warfare by other means” is spreading to Europe.
It isn’t clear why he doesn’t want to send his children to the Satmar schools (perhaps he has higher academic standards), or why he doesn’t home school. However this suggests the law suits are a deliberate nuisance against the non-zionist and pro-zionists, and is probably retaliation for their (arguably justifiable, and certainly predictable) harassment of him.
I’m surprised the schools didn’t try to have him summoned by the Satmar Beis Din, which he would have trouble ignoring. Of course, that would also be politically incorrect, especially for the zionist schools he’s been suing.
January 7, 2013 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm in reply to: Inadvertently taking extra merchandise – halacha #918146akupermaParticipantOf course you need to return. Even goyim don’t hold by theft. Can you find one gadol who when asked such a question ever approved of shoplifting. And that’s without getting into the question of creating a Kiddush ha-Shem be Rabim.
January 7, 2013 2:13 am at 2:13 am in reply to: Do Goyim Have A Shidduch Crisis Due To An "Age Gap"? #918198akupermaParticipantIn most western countries, middle-class men typically do not marry until they are able to support a family, whereas women married when they were able to start raising a family, leading to a substantial age gap, since men traditionally had to complete things such as apprenticeships, college, building a career, fighting wars – before they go married.
Of course, disreputable teenagers always were, well, you know (we can’t discuss it here) -and they were disreputable with people their own age.
Increasing, women have been delaying marriage in order to enter careers, leading to many women being upset once they hear their “biological clock ticking.”
In all fairness, women seem to be emotionally ready for parenting a lot soon than men.
I suspect the norm in the frum community will gradually be for men to marry in their late 20s or early 30s, and women to marry in their mid 20s. Remember that unless they are “1%” types, women as well as men need time to finish college and have a career so they can support a family in a middle class manner (including paying tuition).
akupermaParticipantIsn’t the best answer to not use a telephone (which, after all, can connect with anyone in the world, no matter how much you would rather not talk to them), and rely on sending letters (or even better, walking over a talking to people). People got around reasonably well for years without using electronic communications. It can be said with certainty, that neither the Vilna Gaon nor the Baal Shem Tov ever used a telephone or any other device capable of being connected to the internet.
P.S. Frankly, if you’ve done such a bad job of parenting that you can’t trust your kid to talk to anyone without your supervision, you probably have totally blown it as a parent.
akupermaParticipantIf you have the grades and scores to go to NYU or Columbia, they are better schools than Touro. If you can get into a public university (e.g.CUNY or SUNY for a New Yorkers), the in-state tuition is much cheaper. Some people lack the grades to get into a public university, and they’ll find Touro is an option. Some people find a co-ed non-Jewish environment to be too intimidating if not hostile, and Touro is an answer.
akupermaParticipantTouro is a broad range of schools. Some are better than others. It is typically more friendly to frum Yidden than any American university (excluding parts of Yeshiva University, and not considering online-only schools). It is more expensive than public universities (CUNY, Maryland, Rutgers, etc.), but usually cheaper than the high quality private schools (such as Columbia, John Hopkins, etc.). Touro is NOT famous for high academic standards (which is good if your transcript is not known for high academic standards, but that means the degree is less prestigious than one from a school with a better reputation for academics).
January 2, 2013 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm in reply to: What did the dirty diaper-throwing individuals hope to accomplish? #917390akupermaParticipantPerhaps they should throw rocks – big ones, ones that can cause real damage. The Arabs tend to prefer things that go “boom” – which is what the zionists used when they wanted to protest (note – they didn’t throw diapers at the King David Hotel).
Perhaps it might be better to have totally orderly, peaceful civil disobedience. Such were used by African Americans in the United States and worked out well (albeit the vast majority of states had already banned racial discrimination and regarded the southerns as jerks for their racial policies). Also the American legal system
was open to civil rights suits, whereas the Israeli legal system is controlled by a self-perpetuating system that reflects the viciously anti-religious elites who dominated Israel in the 1950s.
Given that in that part of the world, protests tend to involve a lot more than tossing diapers, we shouldn’t complain. The real issue is that the rulers of Eretz Yisrael want to surpress Torah Judaism no less than the “Hellenists” did, but that the Hareidim don’t want to rely on a miracle and take up armed resistance (you can find a full halachic discussion of why not in the original Satmarer’s seferim).
akupermaParticipanthershi: That refers only to the Income tax (what you file the 1040 form for, with joint returns, graduate rates, deductions). They also raised the “Payroll tax” from 4.2% to 6.2%, which is on all earned income up to roughly $105,000, per person (double that limit if both spouses earn the maximum or better). While only about the top 10% will be affected by the increase in the income tax, 75% pay payroll tax (the rest are unemployed or living off savings or welfare or charity), so for 2/3 of the country what matters is the increase in the payroll tax.
akupermaParticipantYou probably should seek assistance from a lawyer (or at least a social worker) who does this for a living.
January 2, 2013 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm in reply to: how does Hashem want girls with good voices to use them? #917098akupermaParticipantWhat is considered “modest” varies by culture. In some cultures we frequently encounter, a woman who leaves her face uncovered is considered to be serious undressed. In mainstream secular American culture, certain parts of the body are required to be covered, even though in other cultures (and even in American culture in certain circumstances, such as at a beach) they are uncovered. There are often amusing (or tragic, or at least pathetic) stories of American tourists visiting other countries who believe they are acting normally and are mistaken for prostitutes based on that countries’ culture. What is considered acceptable varies considerably between cultures – what is hard for a BT to accept at first is that frum culture is NOT part of western culture – we are cultural aliens here.
In our culture (meaning traditional Jewish culture), the hair of a married woman, and the singing of woman, are considered to be immodest. In American culture, even erotic singing is allowed (though women are expected to wear a ring to warn others that she is not available). If you have trouble explaining this to someone, ask the person who has trouble how they would explain why American women are expected to wear shirts in public if they were talking to someone from a culture where women can be considered to be modestly dressed without wearing a shirt. There are such cultures, and they think that Americans are weird for being so strict about wearing shirts in public.
akupermaParticipantanon1m0us: Actually, they cancelled the raise for Congress, and will probably cancel raises for the civil service (which is a leading employer of Orthodox Jews). The spending parts of the “fiscal cliff” were postponed for a few weeks, so they are still “up in the air”.
All they decided was on a broad tax increase including and probably most burdensome on anyone who is working for wages (or self-employed), earning less than $105K (per person, double that if both spouses have similar incomes – no discount for families under payroll tax). The “rich” will pay more money, but the middle class have the worst percentage changes to disposable income.
akupermaParticipant1. Taxes will go up, probably on everyone not just the superrich.
2. Government spending will decline, especially on programs we like.
3. If the deficit isn’t addresses, it could lead eventually to a high inflation. At the current rate of printing almost half the federal budget, hyperinflation similar to German in the 1920s, or Eretz Yisrael 30 years ago, isn’t inconceivable.
akupermaParticipantArguably not Avodah Zarah since it was created recently without any claim of religious significance (making it a secular holiday similar to the classic “king’s birthday” or “Independence Day” or “Columbus Day” or “Veterans’ Day/Armistice Day/Remembrance Day”).
akupermaParticipant1. In America, they aren’t. The fanciest American Jews are Sefardi (cf. Shearith Israel in Manhattan).
2. In Israel, only some Sefardim are discriminated against. The people who rule Israel are secular Europeans who want Israel to be a secular version of a modern west European country (non-ethnic, non-Jewish, with “freedom from religion”). Even Sefardim who aren’t super-frum are still very Jewish, and thus are quite undesirable from a zionist perspective. Some Sefardim who have managed to give up (or appear to give up) all trace of Jewishness can make it into the Israeli elite.
3. Among frum communities, the differences are rapidly shrinking as strict Torah observance “trumps” ethnicity. Various religious practices and accents get mashed up, and many Sefardim end up learning in Ashkenazi yeshivos, and the Sefardi yeshivos have rebuilt themselves on Ashkenazi models. Based on current trends, while the Yiddish-speaking Ashkenzi may stay distinct (for linguistic reasons), strictly frum, Hebrew-phonic Ashkenzai and Sefardim are increasingly becoming indistinguishable except by nusach.
December 31, 2012 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm in reply to: Does the Gemoro say that we should have fewer children when times are tough? #916952akupermaParticipantWeird question. Unless you were in occupied Europe during World War II, there haven’t been “tough times” in modern times. Even in 1648 or the Crusades, the “tough times” only lasted a few weeks. Today the world is universally more peaceful, prosperous and healthy than anytime in human history – especially for Yidden, but also for goyim.
If you run into frum Jews born between 1940 and 1945, you have your answer. Even in Mitsrayim people still had children – there’s an agada saying that we were saved in the zechus of the wives who didn’t let tought times bother them.
akupermaParticipantRead about how Yidden lived 100 years ago, and you’ll feel like a millionaire.
Imagine the kashruth issues when milk was sold by “quality” depending on how much, and with what, it was dilluted?
Imagine having to rely on checking ingredients, and generally not being able to buy any processed foods.
Imagine housing when most families used sheets instead of walls, and people often had to take in boarders.
Don’t even ask what it was like when the standard work week was 54 hours, including a Saturdays, and religious discrimination was considered public policy rather than something you could sue over.
Consider what is what like when on finding out she was pregnant, a woman knew there was only a 50% chance the child would make it to adulthood – and a good chance she wouldn’t live that long, and even survive childbirth.
Then stop whining.
December 31, 2012 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm in reply to: Picking Up A Neighbor's Phone Calls on a Scanner #917144akupermaParticipantIf your scanner is operating illegally, shut up and stop scanning before you get arrested.
If her phone is operating on the wrong frequency (which is the only way you could be legally getting her conversations), tell her since her phone is broken (and she could get in trouble for it).
akupermaParticipantIn almost all cities it is required to have dogs on a leash or fenced in. The city government should enforce this law. Responsible pet owners don’t let dogs go wandering on their own. If a person is in control of the dog, and the dog is allowed to threaten someone, the person is criminally and civilly liable.
December 31, 2012 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm in reply to: Naming a grandchild from a living relative #917175akupermaParticipantAshkenazim name only for dead people. The “logic” is that the Angel of Death might get confused and get the baby instead of the namesake.
Sefardim has a different custom.
Of course, since we typically give multiple personal names, it would be easy to get around the prohibition – which is just a local minhag.
akupermaParticipantThey already have such restrictions for welfare programs aimed at able-bodied adults. Most of the welfare programs are aimed at people who are disabled, elderly or too young to work – such as Social Security, disability, WIC, food stamps, medicaid. Needless to say, the frum community benefits greatly from welfare spending, and as we tend to be in the “47%” who don’t pay income taxes rather than the “1%” who pay most of the income tax – it is a good deal for our community.
December 30, 2012 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm in reply to: When & why did we start giving children more than one name? #916334akupermaParticipantThe early bibliographies of sefarim in the 17th century clearly showed that many people had double forenames (personal names, as opposed to surnames or nicknames). Albeit this was limited to authors of sefarim, who by definition are more “hashuv” than the average yid. Interesting, at that time the custom of Ashkenazim was to use the second of the two names as what one usually called the person (“Shmuel David” know to his friends as David). The discussions of writing a “get” (the only time it is really important to get the names right) also so that double personal names are not a new invention.
December 27, 2012 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm in reply to: When & why did we start giving children more than one name? #916277akupermaParticipantIt started becoming popular a few centuries ago when, Baruch ha-Shem, population started to rise (largely because more babies surived into adulthood, and fewer women died in childbirth). If everyone had only a single name, it would get awfully confusing.
akupermaParticipantoomis: Miami will get Havana’s weather – no problemo.
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