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I’m not going to debate anything, and will not respond to “questions” that are really opinions. But I cannot be a bystander while an entire portion of the Jewish People is smeared. I’m only responding to questions in the original post because I don’t want to be a bystander and there is an audience who may not here this if no one else speaks up.
Depending on who you ask, it was started by R’ Samson Raphael Hirsch or R’ Asriel Hildesheimer. The current Yekke community (i.e. Breuer’s) will deny the former, hence I’m referencing the latter. Basic math makes it about 175 years old.
Regardless of which of the two you will choose to focus on, don’t lie to me and say that they either was not a savior of Orthodox Judaism in Germany.
The current version that we see in America today is based on the ideas of Rabbi Joseph Ber Soloveichik & Rabbi Dr. Norman Lamm (not an exhaustive list, but two major ones that come to mind).
The Mesorah is as old as the Torah, as in 3335 years. They are Orthodox and have more respect for Chareidi rabbis than you have for Modern Orthodox rabbis. What they all share is the belief that there is wisdom from the outside world as well; it complements Judaism.
Anything written in the Torah is a must, assuming it applies. (In the sense that not every mitzvah applies unless you are simultaneously male, female, kohen, levi, yisrael, married, single, living in EY & chutz la’aretz, and the list goes on…) Therefore, it is mandatory if written in the Torah; not necessarily mandatory just because one rabbi said it. I believe Tosfos says in Pesachim that one is not required to follow a ruling of beis din if they have a valid source from another rabbi in the period of the ruling’s source or earlier who disagrees. Don’t dismiss this unless you can attest that you learned the entire Pesachim with Rashi & Tosfos and didn’t find it.
A rabbi must be consulted in cases of ambiguity and doubt; that’s what they exist for. Hope I answered your questions. Like I said, I will not debate UJM or anyone else. I will only answer serious questions; not poorly disguised opinions.
Not to be a nudnik, but there is a problem when the yeshivishe oilam thinks that they have a monopoly on the “Torah world”. Don’t confuse Torah, the basis of our faith, with being yeshivish; a mentality. Being yeshivish requires Torah; having Torah does not require being yeshivish.October 6, 2022 7:12 am at 7:12 am in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2129627
I expressed support for Ukrainian independence. Not Ukrainian nationalism.
Much like in America, you need to learn the difference.October 4, 2022 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2129441
Never did I express support for Bandera or Khmelnitsky.
The banality of evil should be noted.October 3, 2022 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2129348
And speaking of Bandera, do you know of him in any context EXCEPT Jews? He had many faults, and I’m not defending him. But coming from someone who is against cancel culture, shouldn’t UJM be all for the right to promote him as a free speech issue?October 3, 2022 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2129350
When asked why non Jews should care about antisemitism, Rabbi Jonathan Sacks ZTL answered that what starts with Jews never ends with Jews.
This applies in all countries, from the USA to Ukraine to Germany and beyond. Nationalists are never our friends. I do not support Ukrainian nationalism; I support Ukrainian independence. Learn the difference, folks.October 3, 2022 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2129341
UJM, who was the President of Ukraine from 2010-2014?
Was Zelenskyy NOT elected by a majority of Ukrainian voters? Criticize Yanukovych’s impeachment all you want; he was not the successor. Poroshenko was.October 3, 2022 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2129289
UJM is referrring to Viktor Yanukovych, a Putin puppet who was their President a decade ago. Nice!September 30, 2022 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2128680
Just loving the way @UJM takes me out of context, a few words at a time. Grammar and sentence structure are key to proper understanding.
Just a comment; pro-Russia folks such as yourself believe that Russia’s previous control of Ukraine justifies current proposed control. Hence your Texan/New Yorker analogy is flawed.September 29, 2022 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm in reply to: Putin’s attempted annexation of four Ukrainian provinces #2128459
Glad you admit Putin is a madman. But it wasn’t Ukraine that bombed the Shoah memorial in Babyn Yar.
Stop thinking that historical genocide (which by the way, as per your logic, Ukrainians are Soviet citizens, hence Russian) justifies a conflict.
Putin’s terrorism shall not go unpunished. May he meet his Maker soon.
I never thought I’d say this as a response to AAQ, but UJM has a point.
YU’s roots are in the Eitz Chaim Yeshiva in the Lower East Side. When the neighborhood continued on the dense path it went on, YU/RIETS decided to move their campus to Washington Heights due to its upper class status (in comparison).
YU may not be for the proletariat but that doesn’t mean that there are no Jews who can afford it. And yes, Manhattan was the center of American Jewish life when YU opened up there.
Gotta love Alternative History.
@mdd1, I apologize if I wasn’t clear enough in referring to Western Ukraine as Western Ukraine. It is correct to say that Galicia was Austria. What is not correct is that other regions were all Russia. Poland was larger before WWI, controlling areas such as Volhynia. Lithuania was larger before WWI, controlling areas such as Kyiv and Odessa (which are not near each other; my point exactly).
As a descendant of Jewish immigrants from Ukraine, my ancestors declared their birth country when filing for naturalization in the early 1920’s as Poland. I.E., Congress Poland, which I realize was part of the Russian Empire, but was Poland at the time of the Tach ve’Tat massacres that non-Russian pro-Russian Jews are fond of bringing up. Khmelnitsky was not Ukrainian; he was a citizen of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (later and presently Ukraine).
Does the Pale of Settlement mean anything to you, by the way? Just curious if you realize that Jews were restricted to that area, also known as apartheid. All Russia’s doing. Don’t try to spin the story.
And on a side note, does anyone think Russia was kinder to the Jews than Ukraine?
You say Ukraine was part of Russia (implying Russia proper) but then blame the Ukrainian government for actions committed by Russia when Ukraine didn’t have their own country?
I would never have said this in most contexts because I know it’s history, but I’ll say it now (and congrats to the folks who can read it without Google):
If only the pro-Russia folks on this site would realize the following:
Yes, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union (not Russia proper) until 1991. The only reason that stayed until so recently was due to WWII; Hitler invaded Ukraine (which was Austria & Poland at that point). Stalin won it at the end of the war and hence added it to the Soviet Union.
Stop unwittingly supporting Nazism.
@common saychel, did I ever say that was the case? None of the gedolim you just mentioned were on this site. I’m not comparing; merely pointing out the difference between people who post on here PRETENDING to know what they’re talking about and an actual rav.
@ujm, Have you ever learned מסכת עבודה זרה? Already in the beginning, there are opinions (פירושים) which, when discussing the relationship one can have with an ‘עובד ע”ז, תוס says it is permissible to do business with them even on their holidays, for the same reason. Despite the גמ’ saying otherwise, משום איבה. But I doubt you know that because you probably haven’t learned it. The basis for entering a church under some circumstances comes from the same general area.
@common saychel, I refer to Rabbi Sacks ZT”L and Rabbi Mirvis Shli”ta when I refer to people who are greater talmidei chachamim than anyone on this site.
@ujm, eating chazir is an explicit prohibition in the Torah (must have split hooves and chew its cud). I’m not denying any source’s legitimacy when saying that entering a church is forbidden. However, please recognize the right to other opinions, especially when that opinion is from someone who is a greater talmid chacham than anyone on this site.
At the wedding of William & Kate (also in Westminster Abbey), Rabbi Sacks ZT”L attended due to fear of Chillul Hashem if he didn’t.
Considering Rabbi Mirvis is representing the Jewish people at the funeral, as a rav in his own right, I don’t see him not going. משום איבה.
“(Except, in those cases, they are mostly not well deserved.)” Sounds pretty selective to me…
Do you deny that anti Semites love using Soros as their prime example of Jews controlling the world?
@ujm, if it were being done because Bush and Reagan were Christian (I intentionally exclude Trump from religion), by people who hated Christians, then yes.
Face it, George Soros is a dream come true for neo-Nazis.
It is not anti Semitic to criticize George Soros.
What IS anti Semitic is to blame him for everything you don’t like. And no one will explicitly say that, but as things that are disliked by various right wing politicians are in the news, they blame him one by one for whatever they don’t like.
Perfectly fits the Nazi stereotype of an old Jewish billionaire running a cabal in government, finance, and overall controlling the world.
Totally taken out of context. Full sentence:
“We can only reelect Donald Trump if we get engaged in this circular firing squad. It’s got to be a positive campaign, so join us.”
A half truth is a whole lie.
Benny Friedman was there as a viewer. Section 303, row 14, around seat 10.
I’m no fan of Obama. I don’t think he was such a good President, not that he didn’t do anything good.
I’m sick of this whataboutism. If Trump does something wrong, but Obama also did it, does that make it right?November 28, 2019 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm in reply to: Any of the 2020 DNC Presidential candidates 100% against abortion (aka murder)? #1805707
Republicans believe that life begins at conception. Democrats believe life begins at birth.
Democrats believe life ends at death. Republicans believe life ends at birth.
Or so it seems. Republicans believe in self reliance (hey, Kim Jong Un! #Juche), they don’t support any kind of safety nets or health care.
Joseph, are you advocating deporting natural born American citizens?August 12, 2019 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm in reply to: Tuna soup is delicious, and if you refuse to try it, you’re a coward. #1773066
Do you admit that it’s an imperfect recipe? Why do you need additions?August 12, 2019 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm in reply to: Tuna soup is delicious, and if you refuse to try it, you’re a coward. #1773052
What’s the recipe?
They lean against whoever is in power. Are they anarchists?
Famous people I met:
Jill Biden, AOC.
Famous people I kinda met:
Chuck Schumer, we made eye contact at the Israel Day Parade.
Famous people I saw:
Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Mitt Romney, as well as every other sitting U.S. Senator with the exceptions of Booker, Bennet, Harris, and Gillibrand.
Famous people I will see, or possibly meet in the future:
Cory Booker, I intend on going to his August 7 rally in Philadelphia.
Only if it’s repealed. People spent decades paying in.
Is that a question?April 3, 2019 10:46 pm at 10:46 pm in reply to: Donald Trump should not be the President of the United States #1708961
Hey, Joseph. Yes, you.
This country was founded on the basis of not having a king. Having Donald Trump as king would defeat the purpose of the US of A.
Hope you enjoyed the history lesson.
I read the entire Torah.
There was no commandment of ‘thou shalt not be liberal’.
AviK, I was not demoted. Smerel is someone else.
Leibidik Yankel, vaccines don’t have a 100% effective rate. I wouldn’t care about anti-vaxxers if they did.
But there’s something called herd immunity, which means that at least 95% of the population needs to be vaccinated for a disease to be eradicated.
I remember getting the flu shot last year and still getting the flu. That’s because it doesn’t work all the time. Yet I got it again this year because I’m not stupid. I know that just because it doesn’t work once doesn’t mean they don’t work.
The only people who should not be vaccinated are babies that are too young and people for whom it poses health risks. If you use Judaism for a “religious exemption”, you are turning it into a cult. Venishmartem Me’od Lenafshosechem.
It’s not anti-Semitic to criticize Soros. It is anti-Semitic to use money ads against a Jewish candidate, as Jews supposedly control the wealth.
“Globalist” has for a long time been a white nationalist code for Jew. When David Duke complains about globalists ruining this country, he means Jews.
A few days ago, Kevin McCarthy, the House Majority Leader, tweeted that we “cannot allow Soros, Steyer, and Bloomberg to buy the election.”
After widespread criticism, he’s deleted the tweet.
I don’t know what was going on in his mind. You can call it a coincidence, you might be right.
But as I said before, using ads with money against Jewish candidates is generally anti-Semitic.
It’s not censorship. Censorship is from the government.
Apple, Twitter, etc. are private companies and don’t need to host him against their wishes.
Because no one is accusing Kennedy or Ellison of doing it to them.
Remember when Franken was forced by his own party to resign?October 3, 2018 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm in reply to: President Donald Trump, Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence #1598253
And then they expect a peace plan.
Peace will not come without concessions!
Soldiers are required to have a high school diploma.
1. If your analogy was the case, nothing would be worth money.
2. Actually, this guy thought he would lose money. But once the minimum wage went up, businesses started paying their workers more, and the workers could finally afford an occasional night out. They went to this guy’s restaurant, and he made more money and opened another five, all with new workers.
Bottom line is, a $15 minimum wage works for everyone.
A $15 dollar minimum wage drives up the economy.
Poor people need more money, and when they get it, they’re not saving it for a yacht. It goes back into circulation, and more money gets spent. The money goes right back to the employer from many people, and they can afford to pay their workers.
Seattle has a $14 minimum wage. Some guy had a restaurant. When they passed a bill for the $15 minimum wage, he thought he would lose money. Turns out he opened another five.
When you share the wealth, it’s good for everyone.July 26, 2018 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm in reply to: Why are Liberals outraged that Trump acted like Obama #1565772
The Fighting Sefardi is correct, if you change around Laurel and Yanny. It’s Yanny, period!April 29, 2018 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm in reply to: President Donald Trump, Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence #1513197
On April 22, Trump tweeted:
“Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd of Fake News NBC just stated that we have given up so much in our negotiations with North Korea, and they have given up nothing. Wow, we haven’t given up anything & they have agreed to denuclearization (so great for World), site closure, & no more testing!”.
“Sleepy eyes” is an anti-Semitic term. Chuck Todd is Jewish. Such an oheiv yisrael…
Hurricane Harvey never happened, it just was a screen prop to film a movie about climate change.April 11, 2018 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm in reply to: Can a “Kosher” Restaurant Advertise it also is “Halal” #1505479
People seem to have misunderstood what I wrote earlier. If a kosher restaurant is willing to pay for Muslim supervision, I don’t see any reason that they shouldn’t advertise that they are halal, as well as kosher. I’m not so familiar with the laws of halal, but assuming no part of halal contradicts kosher, they can very well serve both Jewish and Muslim clients.
Did anyone read what I wrote before (https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/climate-change/#post-1503761)? What was written after it doesn’t stand if you consider it.