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They probably don’t mind if the Rabbanut has standards, as long as they’re higher than their own.
I’m with you, DaMoshe, except for one thing. I think we should respect other legitimate views unconditionally, not just so that those who hold opposing views should respect ours (although that would be nice).
What’s in a name, maybe. I don’t know anything about this, I was just trying to clarify popa’s position here.
Just to clarify yours, if you could only do one, would you do CBT or psychotherapy?
Besalel, there’s a big gap (pardon the pun) between success and a scam.
Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it didn’t work as conceived.
But I think you’re way out of line to level baseless accusations against NASI, together with vicious personal insults.
There is “zero evidence” of any bad intentions or foul play, and you should brush up on hilchos loshon horo/rechilus/motzi shem ra, and see what we’re allowed to say when there is zero evidence.
Ok, then I guess it’s not narishkeit, it just shouldn’t replace psychotherapy.
Thank you, notasheep.
I think too many people today try and learn on the job
No, I think the problem is that too many people don’t try to learn on the job.
I’m just curious, BTW, can someone do psychotherapy and CBT? If I get headaches, I may want to reduce the stress which induced them, and/or make sure I get enough sleep to avoid them, but meanwhile, I’ll still take Tylenol.
Or, is like being tired; I can address the cause and take a nap, or address the symptom and drink a large strong coffee, but I can’t do both.
Didn’t you promise two posts ago that it was your final word?
You’re very welcome.
I actually agree with some of your criticism (certainly not all), but I don’t think it in any way negates the age gap issue.
BTW, it’s interesting to observe how those who have not yet gotten married think that the shidduch crisis is that nobody’s interested in marrying someone in their category.
Has anyone got any ACCURATE info on the new eiruv in manchester?
Any information you get on an anonymous forum must, by definition, be considered potentially inaccurate. (I know – circular reasoning.)
Today the scientists believe that they all originate from outside the fish.
Squeak, what it explains, more than anything else, is why a certain type of girl might be left over.
I am not retracting my assertion that there are more girls in the parsha than boys; the demographic equation which I presented (and you haven’t really refuted) is still true.
That doesn’t negate possibility, which I agree to, that there are additional factors at play.
For the most part though, I think the shidduch market has adapted to the mismatch. I think there’s a little game that goes on. If a girl says she wants someone who will “learn forever”, that’s code for a long term (say 5-10 years). If she says she wants 5 years, that means 2-3 years, and if she says 2 years, that means a few months, but he’ll be kovea ittim. For the most part, the boys play along. So the actual “learner earner” type are still in yeshiva, and those rare ones who are actually keeping serious sedorim while holding down a job are in high demand.
That’s not what Slifkin says. I’ll let you find it on anisakis, but on the post you referred to, he does not say as R’ Aryeh Carmel quotes R’ Dessler about lice).
When the anisakis issue came up a few years ago, R’ Shmuel Aurbach was quoted as saying his father’s psak l’hatir is not relevant to the metzius as we now know it. If he held like R’ Aryeh Carmel quotes R’ Dessler, the psak could never change.
This is a tangent, but he not only does it by lice, he does it by anisakis. He thinks Chaza”l were wrong, but the Halacha remains. It’s ridiculous to think that Chaza”l would want us to eat sherotzim or do melachah on Shabbos based on their scientific error.
The only classic source (AFAIK) for the possible chashash that Chaza”l were merely basing their observations on contempirary scientists was the Pachad Yitzchak, and he was therefore choshesh for issue.
BTW, the Orchos Shabbos quotes R’ Shlomo Zalman as being mattir killing kinim, which is why I am highly skeptical of the claim that he held like the PY.
I was looking for examples of mutual k’firah accusations.
The whole notion of violating an issue d’oraisa to maintain rabbinical authority is so krum to me, that I will take R’ Bleich’s word for it that R’ Herzog never said such a thing.
Oh, and in that world not-learned=Chashud
Where does that come from?
Squeak, if the first half is correct, then the OP, for practical purposes, is correct, because although the right type exist, they won’t go out with him.
My (admittedly limited) experience tells me that there are plenty of girls who describe themselves as hodulashem describes herself, but not too many boys such as the OP describes himself. In other words, the girls feel as if the working boys they go out with are not on their level of Yiddishkeit.
Oh, no, are you gonna make me read that trash so that I can respond?
Ok, popa, but don’t you think we shouldn’t unnecessarily judge an individual based on generalizations? Is there a good practical reason to judge a Yid you see walking into a beis medrash as an am ha’retz based on his choice of head covering?
Don’t expect a slew of posters to express that they have no opinion on this.
I happen to think that I disagree, but perhaps if you gave some concrete examples, I might realize that I actually I agree.
This talk about middos, derech eretz, laziness, davening with a minyan, bain odom l’chaveiro, etc., is silly. The girls looking for learning boys aren’t being m’vater on any of that. They want all of that, PLUS he should be learning full time.
(Now watch a bunch of posters take my first sentence out of context and blast me for saying middos aren’t important.)
Let me point out that, it seems to me, BoysWork and squeak are working under different assumptions.
BoysWork is assuming that there aren’t any girls looking for his a boy of his type.
Squeak is assuming that there are, but that BoysWork isn’t looking for the type of girl who is looking for a boy like him.
Josh, I wasn’t joking. Doomsday predictions have been given for the kollel system since it began, but there are more people learning in kollel now than ever.
Change the system or adapt to it. But your current view is only going to hurt you.”
I vote to change it.
That is not very good practical advice to a young man in shidduchim. Squeak’s is.
And who will support the NEXT generation of learners, whose own fathers have no financial backing to give them, because they never learned a trade to earn the kind of parnassah that allowed THEM to sit and learn all day.
The funny thing is, people were saying the exact same thing a generation ago. People will probably be saying the same thing a generation from now.
I don’t like their anti-anonymity obsession
Who cares? They don’t ask for your driver’s license.
nor their their moderation policies
D’haynu?
the problem is there is an assumption that if there is a MO Rabbi he is suspect until proven Kosher, but if he is a Charedi Rabbi he is Kosher until all evidence proves otherwise
How would you know?
Lol, I thought you meant coffee room. My bad.
Anyhow, I disagree. The Rabbanut needs to have standards, and certainly many people who call themselves rabbis, dressed in black and white, blue and white, or any other colors, are charlatans.
Rabbi Yitzchak Adlerstein has a piece about in in Cross-Currents.
Truthsharer, CR or Rabbanut?
Popa, what if we took a whole bunch of normal people and lowered the seratonin level of half of them, and see if they become depressed?
DaMoshe, I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but Hakatan’s initial post was in response to rd and was in context. Feif’s posts were made out of any context.
Do you really expect the mods to approve posts whose intent is to stir the pot and show that the mods are hypocrites?
Sorry, that’s not a double standard.
And I strongly disagree with you about the OP in that thread being a troll.
Just because I dont Live directly in Williamsburg, doesnt mean I am not affected by what goes on there
As opposed to Riverdale.
Smile19, many girls have someone they can talk to; a mentor, coach or therapist. Sometimes an outside person can have a more objective perspective, and can help deal with relationships.
Do you have such a person to speak to? If not, you should try to find someone, who can help you with this and any other issues you may have.
Good Luck!
Can you apologize directly? Or is that too difficult?
I double checked it. You, charlihall, and truthsharer had all joined rd in challenging his choice before Hakatan posted his anti Zionist diatribe.
I assume that had the thread stayed open you would have offered a fuller apology for baselessly calling the OP a troll.
DaMoshe, my comments were directed at Feif Un, not you. I don’t paint everyone who calls themselves MO with the same brush. I like both of you, and often disagree with either or both of you, but I was referring to comments which he’s made.
My point about the difference between the RCA and the Moetzes is that although RCA big talmidei chachomim are consulted, the public policies and statements of the RCA often don’t reflect their views, so an attack on a statement by the RCA is not an attack on their members who are talmidei chachomim. I believe the Moetzes is supposed to only consist of talmudei chachomim, so an attack on the Moetzes is worse.
I will double check the MO teen thread.
Excellent!
I’m not sure why you think you think you don’t have to hold of the “daas Torah” of the yeshivish and chassidish gedolim, but we should hold of the “daas Torah” of the MO gedolim. That’s a double standard.
Also, the RCA is not the same as the moetzes. For goodness’ sakes, Avi Weiss is a member! If the RCA’s decisions were made by Rabbis Schachter and Willig, I would be more careful in my criticism, but as it is, I don’t see an attack on the RCA as an attack on them.
That thread with the MO teen was hijacked by MO posters trying to convince that boy that MO is the derech for him, when he clearly felt it wasn’t. The MO posters got very defensive.
Lincoln
ZD. you would have said the same thing about early Reform.
Hilarious, squeak.
Where was all the outrage when they called non-Jewish murder victims deserving?
I don’t read the Post, so I wouldn’t know what they write on other occasions.
Nishtdaygesheft, good point. I don’t know what her motive for lying about it would be, though. She’s put her name on some pretty nasty stuff.
See? It didn’t work.
Hellena Winston is a rashanta, based on what she’s written.
She denies having written the Post article, though.
It wouldn’t prove mamzeirus, because of the possibility of IVF or other technology.
Who cares how old your guest is?
Also, from which year is the wheat? (That’s probably why you still have a blasted s’fek s’feika).
Avram in MD, it seems that they have their own ministry.
I am going according to the reviews I read on Amazon.
Sam, I won’t presume to know his audience better than he does. It is curious, though. This does not seem to be following the mehalach used to combat reform.
DY: There are cases where we allow Kohanim to remain married to a Giyores, but the kids are still Challalim.
I don’t know what those cases would be, but I certainly do not assume it would be true in ZD’s case.
Also, R’ Schachter himself has said that publicly blasting Avi Weiss/YCT (which he himself has done) as an institution will probably cause more harm than good, which is why they don’t do it.
It sounds like you’re saying that he’s done something which he thinks shouldn’t be done.
Also, people can be educated as to the error of YCT’s way in a calm, non-blasting way (although I personally prefer the blasting method. I suppose different audiences respond differently).