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I agree with Shrek.
popa,
Have some bread after you wash.
Otherwise, I do the same as you, except for the waiting part. ?
I thought you started the expelled from H.S. thread.
The three most important questions are:
1) Middos
2) Middos
3) Middos
After that, you can start asking whether he is makpid on milk from cows that go to the mikvah (good line, Goq).
BTW, I’d be worried about a mashgiach who davens with a minyan 3x a day; that’s when they’ll slip in the pigs’ milk! ?
ilovetorah,
Since your wife has dropped hints as to what she wants, maybe share that with us, and someone might be able to come up with an idea of how to get it within your budget.
Does anyone agree with me that it’s become another thing that is the ‘frummer’ thing to do totally based on nothing?
I can’t answer your question, since I don’t know of anyone who agrees with you. I can say that I disagree.
Bezalel,
The machlokes I remembered is about fleishigs after milchigs. Since you were responding to my post about the reverse, you’d be right, one would need to clear the table and say a bracha acharona first (this is actually a machlokes rishonim, but this is how we pasken).
You might want to purchase a nice gift from a store with a good exchange policy, so that if she doesn’t like what you buy, it’s not a waste (similar to a gift certificate, but more personal).
IIRC milchig is never allowed after fleishig in the same meal regardless of how long the meal takes (or how short your minhag is to wait).
I remember it as a machlokes. I’ll bl”n look it up over Shabbos and get back to you.
Yes.
Then I think that’s also considered “basar”, although it’s something I haven’t (yet) researched thoroughly.
In my experience it is quite rare for the seudah after a brit to be fleishig.
There are some who do serve meat, because it is, IIRC, considered preferable. The reason most don’t is because most people (including the guests) are unaccustomed to eating meat in the morning.
Shticky suffers from amnesia,
so here is one more just to please ya’.
This thread’s not robust,
not dead; it has just
a bit too much anesthesia.
Charlie, do you eat fish?
including vowels, which Hebrew does not have
They’re called “nekudos”.
ilovetorah,
On another thread, your wife wants to know what kind of shtender you want. 🙂
Kiddush, fleishig, wait, wash, milchig.
Every meal.
We’re Dutch.
j/k
TweetTweet,
That’s what I was referring to when I said “a much longer freezer period for age gap shidduchim“; the freeze would only be on close-in-age shidduchim.
y.p,
I don’t think makeup is a problem, if worn in moderation, on a live person.
It’s a big problem, though, in a newspaper photo. 😉
Ask another rav. (You’re allowed to if the first one didn’t know the answer).
Why do you think “ha ha ha ha” (above) is in such a good mood today, thanking HaSh-m?
–He (she?) is an allergist!!!!
I guess her last name is Chu.
till you get to letters like ches /chof, tes / tof, vais / vov straight, it can drive teacher and student to a standstill.
The fact that we pronounce those letters differently is likely a product of exposure to other languages, not the actual pronunciation. I believe that the Teimanim distinguish between them.
OK, I hear ya’.
I thought you were giving mussar for not giving it a fair chance, and calling it off for a shallow reason. I agreed with you, but used the Penina/Chana analogy regarding your tone.
I also agree that texting is “too casual” (I might actually use a stronger term).
I did not suspect a troll, but you might be right; in fact, I wonder if the moderator who closed it suspected that as well.
When you come out of the chill room, could you please bring me an ice cube? 🙂
There is only one torah way.
+69=70
AZ,
Yes, my typo made it come out backwards.
BTW, on another thread, someone suggested that BMG can help fix the problem by implementing a much longer freezer period for age gap shidduchim. Can this work, and if so, is there anything being done to this effect?
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Thanks!
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bpt,
I might have helped you out on that one. I responded to your post, and although I agreed with your opinion, I said you could have been softer (I copied your screenname and subtitle like this):
bpt
never (?) caustic
Raphael Kaufman,
Is there a deleted post that you are referring to?
It’s possible, but it’s hard to know, since there’s such a huge range when it comes to support; some give a small amount to supplement the wife’s income , tutoring money, and programs, and some give enough for a luxurious lifestyle. I’m sure there’s a narrower range for rebbeim’s salaries.
I also depends on whether you count the free tuition rebbeim get (I would).
There’s definitely someone out there for everybody- A bas kol called it out 40 before you were conceived
Someone can turn down their “bashert” for reasons that they consider legitimate.
I’m not advocating giving up. As Mod 80 said, if someone wants it enough, she’ll be”H find someone with good middos with whom she can build a good Jewish home.
I think too many singles, both men and women (but more women, just because of the numbers), are waiting for someone who seems perfect (or almost perfect) and are not willing to settle for someone who is not perfectly compatible, even though with some work, they could have a successful marriage.
I think “wants it enough” doesn’t just mean that someone desperately wants to get married; plenty of singles feel that way yet sadly remain single. I think “wants it enough” means that the person is willing to marry someone (with good middos, of course), even if the bells aren’t ringing, and work hard together to build a home.
Gift certificate to a clothing, accessory, or jewelry store
I can only try.:)
A Woman outside bklyn and Charlie,
You could look at ideas at an online Judaica website (Eichler’s has one, for example).
Guys are you normal at all?
Some of the others might be. 🙂
Seriously, the issue runs much deeper than just one issue (of a newspaper, that is).
It speaks about tolerance and understanding for someone else’s values, which you don’t necessarily agree with. It speaks about understanding a perspective different than your own. And both sides were somewhat lacking in this situation.
ICOT,
How did you do that? (?)
(I just copied it).
btw GAW I would like to hear a name of one of THE GEDOLIM somehow that question went right over your head
Did you look up the story I referred to in an earlier post? I’ll summarize; the Gerrer Rebbe feigned anger and yelled “meshiginer” at someone who felt it was worthwhile for yungerleit to leave full time learning out of concern for what the financial situation will be decades later.
gaw,
If you break it down to dollar amounts, I think rebbeim generally get more than kollel, even including parental support (granted, there are exceptional cases of super wealthy parents who give generous support for years). The reason you perceive it the other way, I think, is because the kollel yungerleit are more often at a stage in life where there are fewer expenses.
they will all be married if they want to be married enough.
Do you literally mean “all”, and deny the age gap issue, or do you mean “any”? If the latter, I agree (at least for most).
gregaaron: Yes, AZ, you must be right – Hashem obviously did not create enough boys for the girls.
AZ: greg: Hashem most certainly DID create enough boys for the girls.
Since AZ is being his terse self, I’ll try to explain.
The age gap theory assumes (and it’s intuitively correct, and, I believe, statistically proven) that more children are born each year into frum homes than in the previous year. There will therefore be approximately 3% more 20 year olds (both male and female) than 21 year olds; 6% more 20 year olds than 22 year olds, and 9% more 20 year olds than 23 year olds.
Although there are approximately the same number of girls as boys, there are 3% more 20 year old girls than 23 year old boys (this doesn’t factor in to the shidduch crises). There are also 3% more 20 year old boys than 23year old girls. This DOES factor in to the shidduch crises, since the older boys have generally been marrying the younger girls, leaving 9% of the girls unmarried. (AZ, you can correct me on the numbers, but I think I’m close.)
When AZ writes “Hashem most certainly DID create enough boys for the girls”*, I think he means that it’s a man-made problem, since He never said that the boys should marry younger girls.
As far as your bitachon, that’s wonderful for yourself, but on a communal scale, should we ignore the issue? If two girls and one boy lived on a desert island, should the girls have bitachon that they will both get married? Wouldn’t you advise one of them to leave the island? (I seem to remember AZ giving this moshol.)
*AZ: ????? ????? ???? ???? ?. ???’ ??”? ???? ????? ????
Mods: can you please tell me what good is coming out of dragging this thread out for soooooooooo long???
I’m not a mod, but it’s pretty obvious; the more people stay on, the more likely people like the good folks at Ohel Mental Health Professionals will feel it worthwhile to advertise.
It would definitely make something think she wasn’t sitting in that chair, no?
Now *that* is hairsplitting!
would definitely make something think
you mean as opposed to a human being?
And so is that!
🙂
Wolf,
I think the gist of what msseeker is saying is that by now, most non-Jews who are not anti-Semitic have accepted that although the paper made a mistake, they’ve apologized, and are ready to move on, so why can’t we Jews also believe that no harm was intended, accept their acknowledgement of poor judgement, and move on.
C’mon, you’re splitting that hair so thin that there’s barely anything there.
I don’t think it’s as fine a distinction as you claim, and I again assert that seeing that picture would not make anyone specifically think that she wasn’t there. It wasn’t a senate session or UN meeting with a senator or delegate’s name plate in front of an empty chair.
Besides, I learn a lot of gemara with meforshim, so I’m allowed to split hairs! 🙂
GAW,
Good question. Since the question was what they deserve, I would say current normal. B”H most are willing to live at a standard below that, and unfortunately, many are forced to live at standards considerably lower than that.
Since what we’re talking about is subjective, I’ll give an example.
Essentially, someone involved in avodas hakodesh should receive our utmost respect, and deserve to dive a Lexus. However, this would be distasteful, because someone in avodas hakodesh is expected to be above such pursuit of gashmius.
Wouldn’t it be nice, though, if our klei kodesh were able to drive a relatively late model, respectable looking vehicle, to fit his family in comfort, and not be busy every week at the mechanic?
Unfortunately, though, too many must drive an old, beat up jalopy with barely enough room, and constantly getting it repaired just to get it into working order.
Unfrtunately
This is getting worse and worse!!! Don’t you have anything else to talk about??????
Nice weather we’re having today!
She is in the position that she is in, and out of respect for her authority, should not have been omitted out of some misguided sense of tznius in this case. JMO
Why should that newspaper follow your guidelines for tznius? It makes a whole lot more sense for them to follow their own guidelines, and that of their readership.
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it’s not that people would think that there are no powerful women; it’s that they think that we are suppressing that fact, as a reflection of our views on women.
You’re right, in a sense (that it allowed people to claim that these are our views of women, although that claim was made out of ignorance) but I was addressing those who feel the paper acted dishonestly. As far as those who feel that the paper acted stupidly, I am in agreement, as I’ve mentioned.
The issue is that they lied about the fact that Hillary Clinton and Audrey Tomason were there
I disagree. Omission of a fact is not a lie (unless a strong inference could be made, which is doubtful in this case).
You say that “people viewing the photo would have believed that they weren’t in the room”, which is not true; they merely might not have known that they were not in the room, which is completely different. Besides, their normal readership knows that all pictures of women are removed.
To all those who feel that the paper was guilty of lying and dishonesty, I ask; do you really think anyone fell for it, and thinks there are no women in powerful positions today?
I personally prefer to learn at the table; I don’t use my shtender, (although it’s possible that if I had a tabletop shtender, I would use it). So my first recommendation is to make sure he actually would use it, or buy from a store with a good return policy.
When I do use a shtender (on occasion in a beis medrash), I prefer a solid wood one with a good foot rest. I don’t enjoy the pressed wood adjustable top model, although it has adjustable height as well as angle, so some do prefer it. I once received one as a gift, but it didn’t hold up well (although it’s possible that they are now better made).
Your best option is to buy from a store with many models available so that if he indeed wants one, he can always exchange for the model he wants. If the store has a good money-back return policy, but a more expensive model (depending on your budget, of course), because otherwise he might feel awkward exchanging for a better one.
GAW,
I wasn’t agreeing with ofcourse’s rant, I was saying that it was unrelated to the OP.
I agree with your post, although certainly some take their gashmius to a higher level than a/c.
I think kollel yungerleit and rabbaim deserve to live at a normal standard and in most cases are willing to live more frugally than most.
What about Rebbetzin Jungreis?
I heard that she gives a monthly shiur in a shul near where she lives, and only women are invited.
Her speeches to a mixed crowd are for kiruv purposes; I’m sure she received a p’sak.