☕ DaasYochid ☕

Can you use a chanukiah for latkes?

Infallible? Wrong religion. No, in the yeshiva world, we don’t believe gedolim are infallible.

Only problem is that Hashem isn’t limited – He can create a satisfying and just system of He wanted.

Not if “just” doesn’t fit with your definition of “satisfying”…

You know the famous question if Hashem can create a stone so heavy that He can’t lift it? How would you answer it?

I would answer that He can’t, but that isn’t a contradiction to the idea that He is “kol yochol” (unlimited), because the fact the He “can’t” do something which is inherently self contradictory isn’t a limitation in Him, it’s the nature of the paradox you are asking about.

Similarly, if your definition of “satisfying” doesn’t fit in with His (perfect) concept of justice, that’s not a limitation in Him ch”v, it’s a flaw in you.

The moshol I referred to above is as follows: (apologies for any embellishment or inaccuracy)

A man with no marketable skills begs a distant relative, a wealthy owner of many factories and businesses, for a job.

He hires him to work in one of his factories, as a kindness.

Years later, the owner, who doesn’t even remember this man, decides to visit this factory.

He calls a meeting for all employees, and asks each what his job is.

One replies that he works on the product design, another that he does maintenance of the facility, another that he does inventory, etc.

Finally, it’s his relative’s turn. The poor fellow, clearly embarrassed, sheepishly looks down and mutters, “every day I come to the factory and collect my wages”.

That’s called “nahama d’kisufa” – bread of shame.

As I recall, the Chofetz Chaim used this moshol to explain why, since Hashem created us for our own benefit, ultimately, as the Mesilas Yesharim says, “l’hisaneg al Hashem v’leihanos miziv sh’chinoso” – for the ultimate reward which awaits us in the World to Come – why couldn’t He have simply put us all in Gan Eden without all of the mitzvos (positive and negative), which are tremendous challenges?

He answers with the above moshol, and I believe it also answers why we need punishment and suffering.

Chabadshluchah, the fellow you refer to may counter that it still doesn’t explain why Hashem had to create such a system, but I think the answer to that is that a system without reward and punishment, and the benefits of earning the reward by working for it (and the possibility of punishment and suffering for sinning) is inherently not a just system.

Yes, Hashem has the ability to do anything, but that doesn’t mean it is His will to do something which is not inherently just and correct.

So, in order to create a just world with the potential for us to obtain the utmost reward and pleasure, He created a system with reward and punishment, which sometimes takes the form of suffering.

May Hashem help this poor fellow to see the truth.

The bottom line, though, is that it’s not really an intellectual question, it’s an emotional one. You mentioned that this person had a great deal of suffering…

The Rebbe was not actively opposed to zionism

If that’s the case, he went against his predecessors.

Yes, CS, I would love to hear why you think putting Yiddishe lives at risk is a good thing.

I can’t prove you wrong on the CR, but just take copy paper and store brand paper towels (I use Costco’s Kirkland Signature) and see which absorbs a spill better.

Personally I think the reason more MO’s leave (As a percentage wise) is because the mo community is more accepting of people “less than MO” meaning you will get people who are more on the margins and a greater chance of leaving

It could work the other way – because a broader range of people can be accepted as MO, they should have less of a dropout rate.

Lol daas yochid, is an amazing day :):)

Then why do you connect it with a meaningless symbolic announcement which puts many Jewish lives in danger, Hashem yishmor?

It seems from Syag’s comment she holds Mr. Carlebach in much greater esteem than, say, MBD

She can speak for herself if she chooses, but I did not get that impression whatsoever.

I find it quite annoying that almost none
of this thread (I don’t count Avi’s obvious nonsense) is discussion of the
article and instead is a discussion of Shlomo Carlebach’s listening habits.

Oops, sorry. For a minute I thought this was the Coffee Room.

Syag, why does this information about Carebach disappoint you more than knowing MBD used non-Jewish tunes?

I see two differences. One, I don’t think MBD ever claimed that he never “borrowed” secular tunes, but according to oshriv, Carlebach did make such a claim – in fact he claimed he never listened to it. Two, the big Carlebach people like to think that his music is 100% authentic Jewish music, not influenced by anything else. It’s simply not true; he certainly borrowed elements of his style from folk music and other styles.
(answering for myself)

DaMoshe, I was unaware of that, but I looked into it and it’s true – the high part of Ki Va Moed is from there, note for note.

Please don’t speak in the name of all .
I know of not a single sin , but disscusting it here will just cause you to loosen your mouth further with הוצאת שם רע .

See Igros Moshe, Even Ho’ezer Vol. 1, 96

This is the vodka song I know:

Nye zhuritzi chloptzi shtoh s’nami budiet mi paidem nuh karchunki tam ie vodka budiet.

L’chaim!

Oshriv, I spoke nothing about his ahavas Yisroel, but his sins were well known, and although he was a smart person, calling him a “gaon” is ludicrous.

Unless you meant a gaon in ahavas Yisroel, in which case I don’t think the terminology is apt, but again, I won’t argue that he wasn’t an ohev Yisroel.

I think it’s wrong to look at him as a role model (although one can learn from anyone’s ma’alos, including him).

Mostly, I was rejecting the simply non factual claim that he wasn’t exposed to secular music.

i know now i will be bombarded with comments , but i can back it up ,

How would you back up something which is so clearly untrue?

this is often a kneejerk response to shut down halachic discussions

I don’t think it’s ever stopped you or me. 🙂

Is that a dish made by Mechi’s deli?

If Moshiach were to come from the dead, wouldn’t Dovid Mamelech himself be the ideal candidate?

Or Daniel Ish Chamudos.

it can be asked why did the gabbai not ask the rov.

That’s not what I was addressing.

I hope people aren’t reading the CR in shul.

As far as the actual halacha, it’s a machlokes (as I recall, the Aruch Hashulchan brings both sides), so is very much dependant on minhag hamakom.

I just put all the ingredients in the pot and let it do its thing.

I turn the fire on too. This way it cooks.

And many hold that which is called Cholov Stam is Cholov Akum mamish.

Name them.