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So Elon Musk agrees that we brought anti-semitism on ourselves…..DeSantis was given several chances today on CNN to condemn Musk’s posts but instead adopted the Trump strategy of claiming he “didn’t know” what Musk had said and hadn’t heard about it.
The war could also be over ‘minutes” if EY deployed its tactical nuclear weapons or massive 2000lb conventional bombs. Clearly, that won’t happen as a ‘surrender’ by Hamas won’t happen (as many of their terrorists will simply ‘blend-in” to the civilian population and seek to escape.)
As noted repeatedly, this was an entirely POLITICAL event designed to show solidarity within the American Jewish community and maintain the widespread support for the IDF’s war on Hamas in the face of growing calls for a cease-fire. These events, by definition, have a certain “inclusive” nature including politicians from both parties, “inter-faith” reps, celebrities, etc. It served its purpose with a huge turnout. Hopefully, the politicians will get their message and stop squabbling over “how to pay for” the Israeli military aid package as proposed by the new House Speaker.
The rally served its purpose, in spite of the signatories. Hopefully, those who opposed participation in today’s event will find their own way of providing political support to the efforts on the Hill to quickly move a military aid bill to EY.November 13, 2023 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm in reply to: Why aren’t yeshiva’s and girl school’s going to the rally in Washington. #2239439
“nobody kicked out Beruriah from a class…”
True, but she didn’t have to deal with some of the resident CR mycologists
The vast majority of corporate entities that have spoken out on the October 7th massacre have been incredibly supportive of EY. Over 40 major banks and 70 law firms have signed on to letters to universities and law schools demanding action against the pro-Hamas/antisemitic demonstrations on campuses. Multinational corporations that usually remain silent on geopolitical events have found their voice in support of EY, while simultaneously expressing concerns for non-combatants in Gaza.
Sarah S: Perhaps we should boycott posters who feel it necessary to demonstrate their ignorance of reality. The current Democratic administration has been incredibly supportive of EY and has consistently blown off the small number of progressives on the left calling for a cease fire. I’m more concerned about the right wing MAGA crazies who have adopted the rhetoric of Christian nationalism and white-supremacist racists whose clear anti-Semitic tropes are no longer hidden. If you have any doubts, spend a few minutes on Gab or any of a half dozen other right wing social media sites or even the vile antisemitism now allowed on X in the name of “free-speech”. The same anti-Israel garbage (using code works for anti-antisemitism) garbage from the left is equally despicable but no longer taken down.November 13, 2023 12:02 pm at 12:02 pm in reply to: Why aren’t yeshiva’s and girl school’s going to the rally in Washington. #2239224
Some are going, some not. Its going to involve 10-12 hours of RT travel to D.C. (including local travel in NYC and metro from D.C. bus drop offs to the mall and back). For those ehrliche idiots who worry about “yeshiva bochurim dancing with BY maidlach” on the mall as they allegedly did 40 years ago in a Soviet Jewry rally, I’d say get your heads screwed on and get them out of the gutter. The rally is to show support and solidarity for our brothers and sisters in EY after the butchery of October 7th…..I don’t think anyone attenting this rally is thinking about this a some sort of yeshivish Spring Break in November
DalMoshe: Ignore uncle Joe…..he gets off on angry responses to his trolls. In this case, especially, his normally intelligent observatons, albeit on the fringe, are grounded in some degree of reality. Here, its just stupidity for the sake of stupidity. While some may question the efficacy of any type of demonstration, the purpose here is narrowly drawn to make clear that there is solidarity within all segments of the tzibur (except for NK and some some rabbonim askanim edited
There are dozens of rabbonim who are supporting the rally on Tuesday. If Sorotzkin and several others don’t believe it would be effective, that is their right but hopefully most Jews living in close proximity to D.C. with the ability to take the day off from work or school will participate.
“Its a waste of time”
R’ Yosef: If even a few of our brothers and sisters in EY gain a moment of chizuk and comfort by seeing tens of thousands of Americans on the mall showing their support, its not a waste of time. Your comment, however, is but that is true to form.
“It seems clear to me that Hashem does not want our learning or our mitzvos. There is more Torah being learned worldwide than ever but still we are threatened…”
You succinctly verbalize a thought that many yidden must feel in these dark days and its difficult to find a simple rebuttal or intellectually satisfying explanation for something that cannot ever be “explained” other than by Emunah, Emunah, Emunah
The same Alan Dershowitz who has reinvented himself as Trump’s favorite Jewish lawyer and who has made a small fortune selling books and appearing on OAN and NewsMax claiming poor Donald is being persecuted???
The Jewish Federation of Rockland County is chartering buses for those who want to attend the Rally. You can RSVP on the federation website
Schnall ran as Dem for ONE reason only….$$$$.
The heads of the various mosdos in Lakewood finally realized that the Republicans in Trenton had very limited leverage in budgetary decisions. Tuition vouchers are clearly not popular with the Dems but Schnall is likely to have more success pushing for some form of limited financial assistance as a member of the majority party than as a Republican.
“Nowadays, most politicians can’t think for themselves. They just blindly follow the party line….”
DaMoshe: I’d say thats generally true but even more so, the VOTERS in the frum communities who often mindlessly go out and vote whoever their Rebbe tells them to, without independently analyzing the issues and the candidate’s stated positions and record on those issues. Often, the ONLY objective is to “follow the money” (code words for who will try to funnel more $$ to certain mosdos).
The rabid antisemitism today is the outcome of normalizing hate speech across the spectrum, from BLM to the Proud Boys, from Talib to Kanye West etc., from woke University presidents who are willing to tolerate hate speech in the name of academic freedom, to right-wing social media sites that have become a cesspool of white-power and Christian nationalism and the worse kinds of anti-semitic vile.
“The OP is repeating what HaGaon HaRav Avigdor Miller zt’l said about this…
Well, not exactly……the quote below provides a bit more context…Fortunately, the Rav explicitly contemplated the likelihood that some would disagree with his political perspective and on that point, he was 100% correct.
“..There’s no question that the conservatives of today [circa 1976] are extremely more liberal than the liberals of thirty years ago. We have already advanced so far beyond the borders of liberalism, that today we can afford to retreat many miles behind these boundries and still remain in the forefront of liberalism. And therefore, today there’s no such thing as too much conservatism. You have to vote for conservative candidates on every level – on national, state and city levels……That’s my opinion. By the way, nobody here has to agree with me – on anything. Only, I don’t have to agree with you either…”
Source: TAPE # 133 (July 1976)
“Does Hashem approve of voting for a democrat”
Certainly, 10X more so than voting for a lying, racist, repeat-adulterer who energizes anti-semitism.
Its bad enough when some jerk in EY talks about “nuking Gaza”…..Its even worse, when ostensibly intelligent yidden in the CR normalize that type of Trumpian (“I’ve got a bigger button than you”) rhetoric in response to a real existential threat. If EY were to use nukes, it would go down in flames with the rest of the Middle East. (And yes, at that point the Ravens become irrelevant).
Takamamash: It is a huge commitment and mesiras nefesh for anyone relocating to EY now, whether for 1 year, 5 years or making aliyah permanently. My belief that such a couple are worthy of my initial wishes of kol hakovod and much hatzlacha stands, to them and all those who work on behalf of protecting the medinah, whether through their service in the IDF or limud torah.
A “new” Gaza in the Sinai would still border/close proximity to EY. We are now seeing long-range missiles aimed towards Eilat being fired from Sudan. We don’t need a new Hamas controlled “Gaza” in the Sinai.
These or other equivalent videos have been shown by virtually all the media, including MSNBC. I wish they were shown more frequently but at least they are being recognized for what they are. The problem is that too many people seem to tune out what is obvious and instead focus on the more prevalent videos showing the suffering in Gaza.
Most U.S. banks maintain correspondent relationships with Israel’s top 3 banks, Bank Leumi, Bank Hapoalim, and IDB. Likewise, several Israeli banks have their own subsidiaries in major U.S. cities (e.g. Bank Hapoalim has branches in NYC and Miami; Bank Leumi has a U.S. domiciled subsidiary, Leumi USA, with offices in New York, Chicago, California, and Florida. You can have a separate credit card (e.g. Chase) that doesn’t charge foreign fees and allows you to earn miles for air travel (e.g. UAL) to and from EY.
Most importantly, kol hakovod and much hatzlacha for making Aliyah at this difficult time.
No mainstream Dems have “switched sides”. For obvious reasons, the growing body count of non-combatant Gaza residents is triggering pressure on EY to do as much as possible to minimize collateral damage. The IDF acknowledgement today that they had accidentally bombed a refugee camp with multiple casualties is certain to increase that pressure.
Meanwhile, back in the House, the new majority leader is already trying to condition the aid package for EY to funding offsets, which has NEVER been done for emergency assistance. They may also add in border policy changes. None of these will be accepted in the Senate which means they are deliberately delaying the Israeli aid package.
Individual who posted threats to Cornell Hillel (a/k/a Young Israel House) was arrested several hours ago
“Why mention reshaim when you can mention a gadol?”
If any “gadol” espouses the vile and disgusting views expressed by the NK with respect to current events, they are all collectively reshaim. I don’t think either of the two Satmar rebbeim share the NK perspective on current events, and if they do, I’ll avoid making any further comments since they would be blatantly disrepectful.
BaltimoreMaven: Perhaps consider that your Ravens are leading the AFL-N and look like they are headed for the playoffs. Not a siman that the world is ending.
All of these comments are so powerful and reinforcing of our emunah in these dark times. Its also so rare to share a thread where ALL are coming to the same conclusion from somewhat different directions.
Israeli media have stated that some of the leaders of the Hamas October 7th attack were among the 1100 terrorists released by Netanyahu in 2011 as part of the Shalit exchange. At some point, the moral fixation on pidyon shivuim must give way to the greater moral imperative of pikuach nefesh.
Paragliders are no more threatening than surfboards or all terrain vehicles in the sense they can be used to traverse political boundaries without formal authorization. Anyone who has ever played a round of golf at Pebble Beach or any one of multiple sections of US 101 along the Pacific Coast is used to seeing paragliders soaring along the cliffs. Its not surprising that these could easily be brought into Gaza w/o raising alarm bells.
For the first 10 days, the nightly coverage on CNN and CNBC was almost 100% pro-Israel, showing the horrific aftermath of the Hamas attacks….late last week, after the Hospital bombing (caused by an errant Hamas rocket) the coverage pivoted to 1:1 videos showing the “suffering of innocent Palestinians in Gaza and interviews with relief organizations predicting a catastrophe unless Israel stopped the bombing and allowed aid to enter. While there is obviously a need for military preparations, Israel is going to quickly lose the “PR war” if the delay in a military response lingers much longer. I suspect they know this so have to assume it is a risk they are willing to take.
Well, today he acknowledged that everyone (including himself) will be subject to scrutiny at the appropriate time, without at any point taking an iota personal responsibility. At least some of the IDF and intelligence leadership has acknowledged they screwed up Meanwhile, his hostage negotiator (Hirsch) jumps into the first photos of the released hostages even though he had zero role in the negotiations. You would think a negotiator tasked with dealing with Arab state intermediaries would at least speak Arabic (which he doesn’t).
It was interesting that in the immediate aftermath of the October 7th attacks, many large law firms and financial firms offered to match employee donations to the victims of the attack and suggested the International Red Cross be the vehicle for assistance. When made aware of how tone deaf this was considering the historic animosity of the IRC to EY and Magen David Adom, many quickly pivoted and offered to match donations to both IRC and MDA but also added United Hatzalah as a donation vehicle.
“ujm – aside from being a Jew-hating troll, you’re also an ignoramus…”
IsraeliYid: So tell us, what do you really think about R’ Yosef??
I think the mainstream media, especially the cable news networks, have saturated their coverage over the past 12 days with horrific pictures of the Hamas butchery to an extent I would not have expected. Yes, they also show destruction in Gaza but that is the reality of news coverage. They have consistently interviewed victims, victims’ families and virtually all the IDF and political leadership of the medinah. Most can disagree, but I continue to believe the coverage is about as good as one might expect for this kind of event. Its not the singular moral clarity that we should expect in a perfect world but better than its been in prior Middle East coverage.
Given recent events, having a filter that still allows access to news sites for emergency information, resources, transportation reservations, online banking etc. is something you should consider.
Actually, mainstream media coverage is considerably less-biased than I would have expected although they were too quick to blame IDF for the Hamas rocket that hit the hospital. If you tune in to NewsMax, they were covering the “news” about Natalie Holoway murder and One America News was covering another election denial story in Arizona and the announcement of Kari Lake (the loser last time) that she is now running for the Senate.
Huju: Agreed, but we need a transition plan to get there (hopefully b’mharah b’yamneu)
Whether you call it “Zionism” or any other term, that is the reality and EY is the ONLY choice for Jews in today’s world. For those mindless yidden who think they go back and live peacefully under Palestinian or Arab rule, you will likely find yourselves getting your chelek of olam haboh a bit earlier than anticipated ch”v. There is no going back to a world than many of us think never really existed.
High above Cayuga’s waters there are some total idiots. If ever there was a time for a University to get beyond the absurd invocations of “academic freedom” and “first amendment rights of free expression”, this is it If you cannot condemn this evil and insanity without adding a “BUT” and also having to express sympathy for the Palestinians in the same breadth, than the leadership of Cornell, UofP, Harvard, etc have lost any notion of moral leadership.
Its sort of crazy to expect every company, institution, organization etc. to rebut some stupid or hateful comment made by a group of employees or students unless that group is doing so with company resources and facilities (like some of the College-funded student groups issuing statements of support for Hamas). Starbucks has been engaged in open warfare with this union so it has no need to “disown” the union’s comments.
P.S. Howard Shultz is not a self-hating Jew although he has been critical of Netanyahu’s judicial reforms along with half the population of EY.
Just a bit more intensity and kavanah yesterday both for הַנּוֹתֵן תְּשׁוּעָה לַמְּלָכִים and the me shebrach for חַיָּלֵי צְבָא הֲגַנָּה לְיִשְׂרָאֵל
Aside from the occasional reserve unit operating in a rear-support capacity (supply, logistics, public affairs etc) that may not have the most modern or newest version of equipment, virtually all of the front-line units are fully equipped.
The intelligence failures and lack of high level government focus on an obvious threat is beyond understanding and demands answers once the immediate crisis has been mitigated to some degree. edited – Sorry, not doing this. Unless you want to go stand in his shoes right now, that can wait
Whether you agree with the hostage deal or believe in the ability to restrict expenditures, not a penny has been released as of yesterday. The gross stupidity and efforts to “blame” broad swaths of Yidden as reflected in some of these posts is beyond embarrassing. If you go on some of the right-wing social websites frequented by the MAGA crowd (e.g. GabSocial, etc.), you will see some of the most vile, hateful anti-semitic, anti-Israel posts saying the U.S. should NOT give a dollar of aid to Israel and linking the terrorist attacks to global Jewish elites “domination of the world”.
As has been conclusively demonstrated in peer reviewed studies, inside even the most ehrliche Litvishe yid beats the heart of a chassidishe wannabe.
Just hang around a newly affluent yid when he gets to Avinu Malkenu and see if you can understand a vert of his adopted sephardeshe nusach
Chaim: Your comment about costs and ostentatious lifestyles prevalent across “in-town” communities is a bit bizarre. There are those who live beyond their means EVERYWHERE and its not unique to (in-town) Brooklyn, Monsey and Lakewood frum neighborhoods. A trip to Orlando is not outrageously expensive nor do most yidden fress out at $500/person 5 star Moshelin Dining venues. Insecure people with a need to keep up with their more affluent neigbors live both IT and OOT, although in the latter case, you may have to drive a bit further to monitor the most recent displays of obscene opulence.October 4, 2023 12:01 am at 12:01 am in reply to: Validity of Jewish Marriage where it’s for other reasons #2229058
” Later the husband marries another wife….”
In the immoral words of R’ Ron Reagan, “there you go again”. Why is a certain CR participant so fixated on polygamy when most yidden have enough difficulty with a single spouse.