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“Gadol’s approach to disregard the risk entirely sounds like an ostrich policy that failed in previous generations…”
AAQ: While I am obviously more open to “risk” than others here, I’ve never advocated “disregarding risk entirely” (especially given the large percentage of my waking hours advising clients on financial and geopolitical risk management). For the last time, my point is that for those unsure of their hashkafah or insecure in their ability to avoid what you might consider “pritzus” or inappropriate intellectual dialogue, than an online college education is certainly preferable than avoiding college entirely. For others, in-person learning may be a preferable option. There is no “right” or “wrong” for everyone. Its safe to say that hundreds of thousands of frum yidden in the past decades have successfully navigated 4 years of college w/o going OTD.Reb E. Thank you for a beautiful vert which raises the eternal question of when the pursuit of material “stuff” goes beyond that deemed necessary for you and your family to enjoy a comfortable life and instead becomes an accelerating treadmill and an “end” unto itself.
“corrupt radical feminist agenda”
You neglected to note some of my less attractive qualities such as occasionally misreading a post, which obviously was the case here. Perhaps we are saying something not all that different. A marriage, unless coerced, typically begins with mutual love and respect Beyond that, building a bayis ne’man b’yisroel requires that BOTH parties must work to retain and enhance the mutual respect which is the foundation of enduring shalom bayis. My narrow point,which I’m sure many will disagree with, is that it should not be the type of “respect” derived from a submissive, misogynistic or subordinate relationship.But in fairness, I try to mix them up occasionally …..
“…a husband is entitled to basic respect just by dint of being a person, and a person who is in a spousal relationship…(slight edit by Mods) ”
Not clear what was edited out or reprhased but the concept of symmetry was noticeably absent from your comment. Presumably, you would agree that BOTH parties in a “spousal relationship” enter that relationship by virtue of love and mutual respect for one another and hopefully that respect grows and is reinforced every day through their treatment of one another. Of course, every individual is entitled to basic respect until their words and actions directed towards their spouse, peers, etc. result in a loss of that respect. I obviously misread one of the earlier posts implying that men have an entitlement to respect simply by virtue of their gender abstracted entirely from their treatment of others.
@Dofi: Please get a thesaurus and come up with some new adjectives to insert before your references to POTUS.
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Forum Role: Participant“Feminists made it that women don’t have to respect their husbands…”
So true. First they asked to be allowed to leave the kitchen for a few hours a day. Then they wanted to go outside the house on one or two days other than shabbos. That was followed by their getting an education and pursuing a career. Its been downhill ever since.
Respect is EARNED, not a default position obtained by virtue of gender.
edited“You took him out of context..”
With Trump, there is no “context”. Have you ever heard one of his call-ins to Fox & Friends or one of the conservative talk-radio shows. Its a non-stop, free-flowing rant combining self-adulatory hyperbole, fiction with no beginning or end. The “hosts” or “anchors” rarely interrupt when he fails to answer a question or goes off on a tangent and even when they do, he just talks right over them. At various times, he has expressed admiration, “Love”, great respect etc. for the world’s greatest tyrants and despots, including the leaders of China, Russia, North Korea, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Brazil.
“80% of American Jews aren’t religious so who cares about their silly political views …
One of the more breathtakingly stupid comments posted recently. Unless you are living in a cave or your own version of a political echo chamber, you should care a lot since they will exert a lot more control over the lives of yidden in the U.S. and EY than your 20 percenters. Even among the latter, there is a considerable divergence among those hold by “traditional” and conservative values but share the disgust and contempt held by the 80 percenters for the #45.
“But online college .. .might protect from wild parties and bad ideas”.
Sorry to break the bad news, but your fantasies about “wild parties” are a bit exaggerated. Millions of young men and women have managed to get through 4 years of college and graduate without ever having experienced the kind of crazy stuff that shows up in the evening news occasionally and in those “Spring Break” movies. Between keeping ups with their courses and working to pay tuition in many cases, there really is little, if any time for “partying”.
As to being exposed to “bad ideas”, I would respectfully suggest that part of the college experience for ALL students should be the ability to evaluate a broad spectrum of beliefs and ideas and learn how to make decisions for oneself as to the validity of competing positions. In-person learning provides considerably more opportunity to discuss and debate ideas with other students than a sidebar “chat” with other students on a zoom call.Seventy seven (77) percent of American Jewis voted for Biden. Most still believe that he has managed the Ukraine situation better than his predecessor ever would have.
Think of all the chesed that could be accomplished by reprogramming the hundreds of millions of NIS spent travelling and partying in Uman to serious needs in EY
Crazy Horse: Yup….It would be funny, if not tragic, to watch principled Republicans who have been demanding the strongest possible sanctions against Putin suddenly doing a 180 degree shift once they heard Trump calling Putin a good friend, a “genius”, etc. and praising the invasion as a “brilliant strategic move”. A bunch of obsequious, gutless hacks.
Republican Committee and campaign advisors have urged members of Congress to stay “silent for now” on how to respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine until Trump decides how he will come down on the issue between his admiration for Putin and wanting to boast that nothing happened on his watch. Those who previously called for a strong response and sanctions are suddenly silent waiting for the Trumpkopf to set the party line. Going into the primary season,no Republican politician would dare contradict him even if he ends up supporting Putin.
The vast majority of Ukrainian citizens (outside of the two eastern “breakaway” areas) have zero interest in becoming part of Russia or even becoming part of a Russian “sphere of influence”. They and their economy have thrived, notwithstanding long-standing corruption, while allied with the West. Not clear this really matters to someone like Putin.
AAQ: Your quote from R’Twersky is really important. In the current world context, hard to tell which tyrants are acting “rationally’ while concurrently obsessed (aka addicted) to illusions of grandeur, perceived persecution, outlandish aspirations etc.
A constructive question – anyone knows good short term learning options for post high school girls?
A great question. And the answer is YES. Its called “college” and is available to both “intown” girls and “OOT girls”. They provide great learning opportunities which allow young women to obtain a degree and a good paying job. There a “colleges” such as Stern College for Women in NYC which offer a quality secular education along with limudei kodesh. There are also programs available for college women who want to pursue limudei kodesh in small women-only groups while attending a secular college. Not all post-high school “girls” want to stay home, socialize and help their mothers. Some may choose to use their education and good paying job to help support a husband who want to be a full-time learner for several years before starting a family. Others may decide to be part of a family where both parents work and share family responsibilities. The point is there are multiple options available today and a year at a very expensive seminary in EY is not the only path.
UJM, are you sure you aren’t the old Joey??
“Get a (good) online degree, get a respectable job to feed your family. Then, you can divide remaining time between learning, teaching your kids, and trying risky ventures in Amazon selling and real estate to become richer….’
Thats one strategy. Alternatively, if you are just starting out and have the discipline, consider applying to a good college and pursuing an advanced degree in business, law, engineering, medicine or any of dozens of professions where you can earn a really good and predictable income without the risk of trying to resell chotchkis on Amazon or flipping real estate. It is increasingly possible in today’s job market to have a flexible work schedule, that would allow time for family and learning.
I know no one here are נביאים
And how do you know that?? Some of the CR geonim have a reasonably good track record on their geopolitical prognostications.
BOTH parties have totally miscalculated Putin’s resolve to be remembered as having restored Russia’s cold-war power as defined by the geographic extent of its sphere of influence. While he may not succeed in bringing back all the Eastern European countries under the Russian umbrella, he clearly is counting on Western fears of a nuclear war to allow him to add additional real estate to the new Russian empire.
The same “doom and gloom” investment gurus have been predicting Armageddon for two decades or longer. Using classic value investment metrics (P/E, P/S, P/B, PEG etc) the market today, on an inflation adjusted basis, is actually cheaper (i.e. more rationally priced) than it was during prior “bubbles’. In simple terms, you can buy a dollar’s worth of S&P 500 company normalized profits today for less than you could 5, 10 or 20 years ago. Obviously, there were Covid-related bubbles in a subset of stocks like Zoom, Peleton Docu, etc. which have recently been substantially deflated. These companies never had real profits for any sustained period so it was really hard to value them. Also, the various Crypto related stocks are in a bubble of their own but have come down more than 50% in the past several months. Otherwise, the rest of the market is trading quite well and reasonably price for a rising interest rate, mega geopolitical risk environment.
“Its a side effect of TDS”
Side effect?? Its a primary symptom….just like ‘long Covid” (with a plea for mechilah from those talmedi chachamim who live in the zip code but outside of the walls of the palace)
“A vaccine mandate for all companies with more than 100 employees was b”h ruled unconstitutional…”
Screwdriver: Tighten those screws a bit and don’t credit the Ebeshter for something that didn’t happen. The Supreme Court did NOT rule that the vaccine mandate for companies with more than 100 employees was “unconstitutional”. The Court did find that OSHA, which regulates workplace safety for the Labor Department, issued the mandate under its emergency power established by Congress rather than under a notice and comment APA rulemaking (which would have required 12-18 months) The Court found that the generic vaccination rule, as a broad public health rule, did not fall within the emergency authorities granted by Congress to regulate workplace safety and a more narrowly focused rule would have to be adopted using regular APA rulemaking process.
“PS other than in the zip code 08701 an am haretz is not insult.”
I think you meant 33480 which is zoned exclusively for am haretzim.
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“Ale tseyn zoln bay im aroysfaln, not eyner zol im blaybn oyf tsonveytung…'”
Don’t rely on ANY network. Wherever possible, do your own diligence based on source documents. It so easy today to quickly locate and download court filings and decisions, government reports, etc. Don’t rely on any filters…read and decide for yourself.
For a change, Rightwriter is 100% right. China is the primary source of both generic drugs and the chemical/biologic ingredients used in drugs manufactured in India, Ireland and of course, the U.S.
While the FDA ostensibly has inspectors at Chinese production facilities, they are limited in both the frequency of inspections and what they are allowed to inspect. At the end of the Obama administration and through the Trump and Biden administrations, there are ongoing efforts to onshore those production efforts, which of course accelerated during Covid. However, it could be another 5 years or longer before those efforts result in “most” of the drugs produced in the U.S. or by U.S./European countries being sourced 100 percent in either the U.S. or Europe.SCOTUS has ruled on several of the vaccine mandates. It has upheld the EOs dealing with health care workers and rejected the EO (implemented through OSHA) that created the mandate for all employers >100 employees. In both cases, the rulings were NOT based on constitutionality but the procedure through which the rules were adopted (short-circuiting the APA) or absence of underlying statutory authority for a rule of the scope contemplated (aka the blanket OSHA rule).
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AVD: Well stated. There is a strange generational component about obsessively “sharing” your life online that is obviously more prevalent among goiyim and secular yidden than among those living in the “yeshiva velt”. I’ve been in restaurants with younger business colleagues and truly cannot understand the motivation to pull out their phones and photograph a plate of nondescript chalupahs with borscht (aka “beet emulsion”) and garnished with a cactus flower. Same for hiking down to see an incredible lava flow at the currently active volcano on the Big Island of Hawaii where the visitors seem obsessed with getting their selfies and posting them online immediately than actually watching the incredible natural phenomena occurring behind them. In both cases, they were oblivious to the disrupted effect their camera flashes and flailing selfie camera poles had on those around them. You may occasionally see this among younger folk dressed in yeshivish lvush but its much less prevalent and usually (albeit no always) done with a lot more derech eretz and consideration of those around them
“Why would a woman be traveling alone??”
@UJM: Are you offering your services as a “heimeshe travel companion” ?If so, where does the line form?Not sure what level commercial or legal positions you are addressing. We have done multiple transactions with Israeli companies represented by Israeli counsel and bankers and I’ve not encountered situations where anyone on either side of the deal who was shomer shabbos had any difficulty finding accommodation. Even the closing schedules routinely took account of shabbosim and yom tovim. If you are talking about mid-level management positions in retail or commercial service companies or routine legal/accounting work for individuals, I’d agree that willingness to work weekends (including Saturday) is more likely to be an issue both in the U.S. and increasingly in EY.
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes..”. The Feds use that authority, inter alia, to regulate all forms of “commerce” including all forms of interstate and international transportation. The so called “Dormant Commerce Clause” refers to the prohibition, implicit in the Commerce Clause, against individual states passing legislation that discriminates against or excessively burdens interstate commerce.
“How is it legally different for the government to regulate a requirement to cover ones legs, stomach or other body parts than to regulate covering ones mouth and nose?”
Probably not an appropriate question for the CR but take my word that there are peer-reviewed studies showing why uncovering certain parts of the anatomy may offend pubic sensibility and decency and trigger midflight disruption more than others. Until 2 years ago, there were a few episodes ever year where flights were diverted or passengers removed from planes for “displaying” too much of their real estate. None of those, to my knowledge were either a nose or mouth. Passengers COULD be denied boarding if they openly appeared to have a contagious illness but that rarely happened. All of those rules were specified in the airlines’ filed tariffs. Conversely, the FAA’s authority to promulgate rules (using proper APA procedures were codified in its organic statute and were not changed by airline deregulation which eliminated the CAB).
Johnny:
Roses are blue ‘
Violets are red
The Trumpkopf lost big time
The Electoral College saidSuch actions are fundamentally prohibited in the Aseres H’adibros Shamos (20:17)
לא תחמוד את המנקה של רעך“When you make a wedding, ask your LOR if it’s the right thing to lift up the chassan!
Johnny: And just assume its OK to lift up the Kallah??
Feds have full authority to set rules governing interstate commerce which spans all forms of jurisdictional interstate transportation by air, rail, bus, trucking etc. The 1978 Airline Deregulation Act “deregulated” the airline industry in terms of removing federal control over such areas as fares, routes, and market entry of new airlines but the regulatory powers of the FAA to set rules governing air transportation health and safety remain intact.
“With all due respect….”
“There’s the obvious issue of the choson being lifted over the mechitza and viewing the women’s section…”
I’m glad its an “obvious issue” of a Choson being carried on a table holding on for dear life being “lifted over” the mechitza where the bochurim presumably hand over the table (with the Choson still hanging on) to the women on the other side so he can watch his kallah and all her friends engaging in you know what??? Meanwhile, the Mashgiach at the simcha hall is checking his Hashgacha Manual to decide whether he needs to yell STOP!!
“When I go on a trip, most of the time the principal purpose of the trip is photography”
You can stay home and post photos of your wife’s chulent and claim it is a $59 chulent entree from the most expensive restaurant in South Beach and photoshop a picture of a smiling mashgiach in the backgroundAAQ: Most of the major national law firms and investment banks offer up to 6 months paternal leave for their associates and VPs (an entry level position in the banks)… most with full pay for the first several months. some for all 6 months. The policy in our firm and many others also grants a separate category of paternal leave for adopting parents. If a woman supporting her husband in kollel has completed law school or with an MBA working in a bank is eligible, she could take off for months with pay and still have an income. I’m not sure how often the paid-leave option can be taken for those contemplating big families.