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1. Yes 2. Not supposed to but sometimes yes 3. No you change the mode 4. Not that I know of
You can also have it go into Shabbos mode manually and not automatically.
To avoid any heartbreak at all, the only solution would be to check DY before the shadchan thinks of setting them up.
Dear Bot,
You are completely useless here. We already have Beeblerox Inc.
Dear Always,
The fellow had been driving behind you for miles while you pointed out all sorts of things to your children. When you suddenly braked and veered toward the median to point out a sleeping skunk, he was fed up and went around you. You got flustered, and confused his dash-cam for a black hat.
On Deism as an Approval of Free Will.
I have posted on this before, and it is not what I intended to get into on this thread.
To deny both the intervening power and divine consequence, would obliterate this cornerstone. (I have – on other threads, opened the possibility that there is another, unique cornerstone to Judaism that does not involve theistic dogmas.) But what if one goes with an either or approach? It seems impossible, and may very well be the death knell of rational thought on the matter. However, the whole exercise strains our philosophical capabilities to the max. I understand this to be the intention of the Raavad.
My point in bringing up Rav Chisdai was to demonstrate how much the goalposts move. There is a bunch of gibberish (that is difficult to refute) that claims that the great Jewish Philosophers were against orthodoxy. Just because the modern philosopher works against antiquated ideas, it does not mean that he disrespects antiquity.
On religious literature.
I agree that it’s sacredness is because of it’s immutability. I don’t agree that that forces it to be read a certain way. Just the opposite. Because it is enduring, it can be read many ways. I don’t know what this implies for a treatise, that was out of circulation for centuries or that was secret manual that is now publicly available. The Zohar can serve as a loose example of either scenario.
But anyways, just a mere insistence that it can be – or even should be read as literature, is not a denial of it’s metaphysical truths. It is just an obvious reference that Herder was likely not initiated in those same truths.
On misunderstanding.
Well that makes two of us. My point on this thread, is that the anti-Semitism that is found among many communists, is not directly linked to Marx himself. (Or even Marxism for that matter.) Ditto for every philosopher and movement mentioned in this thread. [Though Nietzsche may be an exception to my dictum. Did we mention him?] Please read my posts with some background as getting back to this paragraph. I did not start with any other concrete position. Also, none of this is recent reading on my part. I’m just going off what I know. So I could be completely mixing things up.
And I agree with Maskil. You are very impressive for this site. Which is of the most impressive open forums on the internet.
1) Some guns are a necessity for some areas of the country.
2) And a frivolity for certain neighborhoods.
3) Certain guns have no use outside of a combat zone.
The abolishment or containment of guns should center around the third sentence.
But what use is good sense when it comes to talking policy for our diverse melting pot of a free-thinking media-parroting partisan/independent gentleman’s shouting match?Commas were edited out as a form of evidence. -1776
Dear Avirah,
My apologies for bringing this unpleasant topic back. I was offline since before Yom Tov. If you want to move my point away from the general conversation, you can concede that he made a request of Rav Chiya which is not the same as davening to him. I don’t know if it is a good enough answer for the topic and I don’t care. But I am very sure that if you would have an actual recording of the Hienteger that when he dies it’s time to let go and realize that we are mere mortals, that it would have zero impact on any Meshechist.
Now to the gemara. The thrones moving on their own can’t have any relation to the Malachim Omdim of Kedusha. That would a more flagrant kefirah than we have here. I think you were just inferring, but I don’t have any reason to agree with you. Yeshiva shel maalah is past the decorum stage of honorable existence. I made that last sentence up. Please give me a sevara to the opposite effect.
With that admission. I don’t see anything in the gemara about chutzpa. It seems like his human eyes could not stand up to the eternal light of Rav Chiya’s Torah. A mashal would be to stare into the sun for a long time would burn our eyes beyond repair.
Oh, it’s obviously Menetrier Disease.
If I recall, the Yated does not use the title Gaon at all.
Dear Squirrel,
Not even ten percent of bachurim would check off even half of your list.
Dear Always,
“Hope you too.”
So you don’t really identify as yourself.
Dear Always,
The full time kollel student with a side job is responsible to his kollel above all else. His customers have to be worked into his kollel schedule. Which means that he has to pass on opportunities to grow his career.
Dear Avirah,
I don’t get what your saying. Hashkofas HaTorah does not lend ‘authority’ to gedolei yisroel. Their statements stand on their merit as an individual. In many areas specific gedolim stand out. The yeshivos at large follow their elder R”Y, even if the RSHKBHG disagrees.
On second thought, maybe you mean specifically mean ‘dogma’ and not the general idea of ‘authority’. I hear that. What generally differentiates regular orthodoxies from MO, is their extreme hesitancy around everything dogmatic.
PS On the main topic. Exhibit A Igros Hagrid. Exhibit B Sichos Hagrid.
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Dear Yserbius,
We are discussing different things. You are talking about communal direction and power struggles. That is something each community has to adjust to their own needs and circumstances. I am responding to personal attacks on Lubavitchers over matters of personal belief. My position is that this is not a matter of Chabad. Certain types of people do not know how to accept higher authority that isn’t divine. So they combine or confuse the two. Such confounding thought experiments exist in all communities.
Dear Avira,
No google. Just my memory. Did you look up the gemara? It doesn’t mention any chutzpa. I don’t know what you make of the upper realms, but I doubt that there is a need to maintain any decorum. It’s something of an existential condition. It’s nothing to do with the way to act.
A person believes what is in their head. How it looks to you or me, is not of consequence. “It shows that he believes in the power of something besides Hashem” is the bludgeon of Jihadists and Crusaders. Hashem Knows and is not fooled by any shows. The laws of A”Z are clearly spelled out. Beseeching a human, dead or alive; is not addressed.
And to get to the main topic. What is the difference if the body is dead or alive? The neshoma is unchanged, because it is eternal. (At least according to the Kabbalistic Gospel of Chabad. Which is older than Lubavitch itself.) The tzaddik helps you from the depth of his neshoma, so if you can ask him when his body is holding his soul, the same should apply after they seperate. I don’t know your answer on this.
[I see I missed your post about why schism is necessary in Judaism. Not all those schisms were intentional. And nowhere do chazal tell us they were needed. The justification for schism is recorded in other religion’s writings. Our seforim ignore the topic.]
These are two separate issues. Kollel and young couples in Israel. Kollel is a question of means. It can be done a multitude of ways. There is no real way to make ends meet in (Chareidi) Israel. So the conversation has to start with either support or a lot of sacrifice.
Dear Common,
To think the NYPD would lose this case, is the most naive take of all. Qualified immunity is almost always applied.
Dear Yserbius,
I don’t understand why it matters how vocal, powerful, or influential they are. My point is that it’s part of the package of having a religious community. How much traction it gets under it, is just a matter of circumstance.
Dear Common,
I know a group of guys who will take your car for a week, and return it completely clean for no charge!
Dear Square,
Why do you feel like the mainstream media, the UN, the ICC, and commonsaychel, are all biased against you? Similarly, why do you think anybody cares what Chananya Weissman thinks about shidduchim?
Dear Avira,
I don’t understand how he aggrieved Rav Chiya.
Pardon my ignorance on communicating with the dead. What is the deciding factor if it is prayer or not? Why is it different than solicitating from the living?
My only point is that we find a straight petition to the interred. Don’t ask me what it means. I was only challenging your blanket statement.
If I had to chose if it is forbidden or desirable to betten the rebbe, I would choose the former. But it’s not a choice for me, because I have no interest in doing so. If your asking me to definitively prove, I can’t. Too many kabalistic implications for me. Though I admit of the two ongoing arguments on this thread, yours are superior.
Dear Gadol,
I prefer two shorter flights to one longer one.
Dear Ujm,
I understood it to mean only departures are affected.
When, where, and what topic?
Dear Yungerman,
You mean you do not appreciate random posters on the internet telling you that it is all up to Hashem and you should just daven?
Well, I have to honestly tell that this is not found in all the chumashim in the world. Some do not give a siman for the amount of pesukim in each parsha.
I don’t get the question.
See; Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah (1993),
That was an attempt to satirize the communal outlook to what bachurim do today. But seriously, outside of providing food and so on, the bein hazmanim programs have really disappeared.
Personal god or free will does not on it’s own a heretic make. These are debates. Was Crescras guilty of philosophical apostasy?
Metaphysical truths <en>inherent</en> in scripture is an extreme position. Even secular scripture is only bound by time and place, if man assigns himself the position of the all knowing reader.
Dear Yserbius,
Every group has some. These people are just overly effusive of their leaders. But when they feel safe, they move their reverence beyond any mortal boundaries.
Dear Mods,
I’m guessing that most of benToiroh’s posts are going to spam.
High level shiurim for bein hazmanim? This isn’t 2019 anymore. A dvar halachah, some mussar, and a kumzitz, is all a yeshiva bachur should strive for. If he is really talented, he can simultaneously raise money for some cause. What is the purpose of learning biyun today anyways?
Dear Avira,
Okay, I will try to entertain. The gemara clearly reads as the petitioner addressing the interred. Nothing else is mentioned. It’s a spot on quote. Maybe it’s irrelevant to the argument. But I was only responding to the broad claim that there is no such Chazal.
I found your first post, and read your follow up to mine. I don’t see it. What does it mean to ask forgiveness by a grave for something that occurred in the upper realms? How is that not a direct prayer? The way you explain it, what did he do wrong to Reb Chiya (From memory.) by looking at his throne?
And to be blunt, you have never clarified to me why Chabad should be singled out. Every group has some that confuse their leader with The Divine. (As they should.) That is my take on this topic which seems to trouble you endlessly.
I explained myself well. It’s none of my business because I don’t share my innermost thoughts and prayers online. Nor I do I go to any cemeteries or graves. Your turn.
Dear Avira,
I have no idea where got that I have such an idea that most …..
I don’t want to go there, and probably neither do the mods.
But it was not about the Rabbonim that are issuing the gittin.
Okay. Truce. Let’s drop it.
You don’t seem at all familiar with the inner workings of the American Rabbinate. Modern or Traditional. I don’t want to air endless dirty laundry online. Next time check your own backyard before commenting on your neighbor’s driveway.
Dear Avira,
“They are definitely going to have more of it”
You sound so sure of it. The leaders of the YV are not. To put it mildly, they are pulling their hair out.
Dear Ujm,
You misquoted my citation. L’chol hadayos the Rambam was not michaven to your misquotation. yesh omrim that he only codified these ideas for you to cite them as you please. But then my citing any Rambam, is mufrach ma’ekaro.
In plain English, I’m not sure what you are trying to claim.
Dear Avira,
That means the beis din backs the legitimacy of the contract.
Dear Avira,
I don’t care for this argument. Ben’s posts are too tedious for my time. It caught my eye that there is no mention of asking from the deceased so I posted a source. I’m not aware of the implications.
Dear Avira,
I wasn’t talking about a few bad apples. Rather the best of the bunch issuing gittin that are halachically very questionable.
In certain ways, the MO set up is better than the YV when it comes to sticky problems. (Gittin, Kiddushin, Geirus, etc.)
Dear Ujm,
“is obviously going to have far more ..”
It makes all the logical sense that it should be that way. But in reality, it’s equal. Why? I don’t have an opinion. I just rely on whatever the Rambam says on this topic.
PS Even if it was Halachicly permitted to have a girlfriend, it should lead to the same problems. You really destroy your own arguments on this topic.
Dear Yserbius,
Your current credibility rating on Lakewood is abysmal. Maybe the people <en>you know</en> have a hard time getting in to a mesivta with an English program. I know of one that does not have a full enrollment. Even more likely, finding a good enough well rounded mesivta is their problem.
That may help get you back on your soap box, but…………………
Probably not even one of these kids was heading to a decent level mesivta in eighth grade. And it has nothing to do with a lack of secular education. And everything to do with some social dysfunction.
A request made to the tzaddik in the kever himself: Bava Metzia 85b
And much worse goes on Meron, and nobody says boo.
Why is this an endless, big deal to anyone?
Dear Ujm,
That is not what it means. Your posts on these morals are as Torah-less as a kids at risk whatsapp group. Come to think of it, you’re probably on those too!
Dear Coffee,
If their interested in the Torah, it will shift their priorities accordingly. Even as you assume, there is still no clear benefit of attacking Chabad. I have no rational for it other than our own insecurities.
There are about a hundred mesivtos in total. I know of three that have secular studies and five that don’t.
The bigger shtuss is to try to make sense out of all the random shul publications.
Dear Avira,
I learned the hard way that some RCA rabbis learned in BMG.
As the Rambam writes, arayos is a universal problem. Any yeshivishe bochur who knows the hock, wouldn’t throw stones at the MO on this issue. It’s worse by us.