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n0mesorahParticipant
Dear Bocher,
To say that exactly zero people in any affected community are currently contagious is wishful thinking. The question is at what point is it wise to reopen. I know of young people who had symptoms or were exposed and did not quarantine.May 27, 2020 9:45 am at 9:45 am in reply to: Empirical data: how did we handle COVID vs our neighbors? #1865318n0mesorahParticipantEmpirical data and covid have not really gone together too much.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Coffee,
The anything that was not found, was enough for Mitt Romney to fear “the censure of my own conscience”. Also, according to The President’s legal team no crime was yet uncovered on either of the Biden’s. [The investigation in Ukraine was to uncover a crime.]n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
Everything that was done was without the federal government stepping up production, or national coordination. In your view the Feds could not have done more. The States were ineffective. The virus itself is almost meaningless. No wonder a medical opinion is not needed for public health! Therefore, I can’t even ask you the one question about our President. Here is a random one. Do you think the President feels the suffering of his fellow countrymen?n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
The issue is that as soon as the restrictions lifted, there have been too many instances of large gatherings. China took a risk with new year celebrations. America is being stupid. Now I see why so many support the President.n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
What will go away? Coronavirus? Maybe it can take the flu with it. Or, maybe it will be here for centuries.n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
Check. Neither one called anyone Nazi. But Kahane was called that. This misses the point. Your examples are of people who spoke for themselves. They had to answer for their actions. The recent stories are regular people who reflect on their community. Why is Doingmybest the one attempting to clean up for them?n0mesorahParticipantThew point here is that these yidden thrive on the claim that they follow their gedolim and are not influenced by current trends in how they apply Torah to themselves. When a civil commotion like this occurs, it comes across as a serious corruption of religion. The question is not about their values. Rather how come they cannot make their actions fit in with everyone else?
May 26, 2020 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm in reply to: $1200 for the Public but Trillions of Dollars for Corporations #1864891n0mesorahParticipantDear K,
The small business needs the financial help now. Or there will be much less consumers. Economies today are driven by debt. It will not last forever.May 26, 2020 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm in reply to: $1200 for the Public but Trillions of Dollars for Corporations #1864884n0mesorahParticipantDear Coffee,
Almost all Americans want a free market. The issue is oversight. Congress has not been up to the task this century.Independent groups are the main watchdog of today’s market. Capitalism guarding capitalism does not work.n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
You must mean the states. The white house is waiting for it to magically go away.n0mesorahParticipantDear Thetruth,
What do you think about the “most unvaccinated children have autistic parents”study?n0mesorahParticipantDear Ready,
What do you think helped, the Doctor or the medicine?n0mesorahParticipantRemember this one?
We’re building a wall on the border in New Mexico and we’re building a wall in Colorado!”
n0mesorahParticipantEating inside on SA is mentioned in the gemara.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Mammele,
I came across a younger person who got sick (no taste or smell, 3 days fever, coughing, etc.) in May. It seems to be true that most of us are no longer contagious. But the chance that right now no one in Lakewood is contagious is about zero.
There is reason to suggest that kids do not get sick from other kids. That does not help the teacher. Camps have younger staff, so it may work.n0mesorahParticipantDear Health,
“Not proven to commit a crime” and ” hasn’t had a trial” sound the same to me. These to candidates are not at all similar. Why compare them? Just say what you like. I am having difficulty following.n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
The key word here is ‘normal’. Shuls could reopen in a creative way. To get back to pre-covid, will take solid science or zero cases geographically.n0mesorahParticipantDear Bocher,
I apologize for my joke missing your point. Maybe your theory is true. Maybe. The situation is more serious than that. A lot has reopened in the Northeast. Yeshivos and shuls returning to normal seems like a bad idea. What guidelines should they use? Good question. Answer: One based on solid science, not a maybe.
(P. S. If someone dies through negligence Hashem will not be “understanding’.)n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
My point was that Hashem was looking out for your son. I apologize.May 25, 2020 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm in reply to: $1200 for the Public but Trillions of Dollars for Corporations #1864696n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
The opposite is sensible. I support the idea of a just society. There is no need for society to support the corporation. [I assume a corporation to be a legal fiction.]n0mesorahParticipant“Shocking how many frum (or I assume frum people here) support Biden and allow sheker to come out of their mouths regarding Trump. Maybe he is a goy, but once you allow sinas chinam to enter your bloodstream it doesn’t take much to use it on fellow Jews.”
Shocking how many frum……… to use it on fellow Jews.
Evidently.
Support Biden and allow sheker.
They really support Trump. The only problem is sheker.
Maybe he is a goy.
To avoid sheker say maybe.
Sinas chinam………
Do not hate , the new Republican rally cry.n0mesorahParticipantDear 1,
The cowboys and the mexicans have been wearing wide brims for 2 centuries. The yeshivishe velt wore them for a 1/4 of a century. My grandfathers never had a wide brim hat.n0mesorahParticipantDear Ubiquitin,
I looked up the first post. Perhaps it is asking about using hydroxychloroquine to treat malaria?May 25, 2020 4:29 pm at 4:29 pm in reply to: $1200 for the Public but Trillions of Dollars for Corporations #1864618n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
That is less factual. Look into where the money is actually going. The government is not.n0mesorahParticipantBiden’s son is about a tenth as crooked as Trump. It is weird to bring up dis-honorable points to discredit any presidential candidates. I am getting the feeling that a lot of Trump supporters do not have any reason to support him, other than that he is on the ticket. If that is how you feel, then say so. It is no worse than saying oh yeah well um the economy. Or, my life revolves around preventing abortion. Or, he will stop climate change. He is a true oheiv yisrael. A model citizen, or some other junk. Elections are elections not much else. One ticket will one. Picking one at random is fine. Lying about it is not okay.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
Not sure if the slur was intended, but I appreciate the pun. Other than that, I have not been victimized at any point.n0mesorahParticipantDear CTL,
My fault. I bumped the post to see if it would get updated.n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
Were you relieved that he did not get in?n0mesorahParticipantDear Takah,
A narrow beis medrash in the same building as Beis Shalom. By the main entrance on Ninth Street. It always had a senior crowd.May 25, 2020 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm in reply to: $1200 for the Public but Trillions of Dollars for Corporations #1864527n0mesorahParticipantDear 1,
However they managed to vote for the last eighty years.May 25, 2020 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm in reply to: Lakewood Yeshivos closed because of Murphy not Corona. #1864523n0mesorahParticipantThis whole thread is not based on truth. As a community we are very different. We could reopen in a lot of ways, without violating the state guidelines. Especially, in Lakewood where there is an excellent relationship with the township, the police, public works, etc.
May 25, 2020 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm in reply to: Lakewood Yeshivos closed because of Murphy not Corona. #1864516n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
I know of four. And I am not in Lakewood. (Big deal, there are dozens that are closed.) All kinds of rumors about minyan factories being open there as well. Very unclear if they have strict guidelines or not. Do not react to rumors.May 25, 2020 2:07 pm at 2:07 pm in reply to: Why do some of us we think the rules do not apply to them? #1864513n0mesorahParticipantDear Nachshon,
I think it is peer pressure. Personally speaking to people, they are more unsure of what they think, than what they practice. (Both ways.)n0mesorahParticipantDear Bocher,
I went out into the street and met a coronavirus. (I always take my transmission electron microscope with me.) I asked are you frum? It responded very much so, and will only reside among like minded people. I left the street and met another one. Are you frum? No, I am of the derech.Just kidding. Viruses do not work that way.
May 25, 2020 11:40 am at 11:40 am in reply to: Minyanim Legal in New York starting tomorrow #1864447n0mesorahParticipantDear Common,
There is a sweetness to this one, but we discussed this about the ill fasting on Yom Kippur. What is different here, (I call someone that age daily.) is that when they were young, the world was in turmoil. (the Great Depression & WWII) Then, was 40 years of national uncertainty, with the fear of atomic war etc. The last three decades were ideal for retirees to enjoy what they worked at their entire life. Now, that there is global tragedy and national conflict again, they see it, as it is not their world anymore. [In a comforting way.]n0mesorahParticipantDear Rava,
We just do not know. It sounds better to me to say that we received our oinesh and are doing teshuvah. Unverified medical opinions sound very silly to me after the last three months.
1)This is not the measles. After multiple waves there could still be a solid percentage that never gets it.
2)Herd immunity is far more effective on viruses that are out of the community. Corona has to leave for a bit, for it to be a real factor.
3)Covid-19 is not the direct work of the virus. The fact that people have antibodies will not mitigate the factors for those that do not. A weakened strain of coronavirus may just as lethal.n0mesorahParticipantDear Ubiquitin,
Can I take hydroxychloroquine for malaria without zinc?May 25, 2020 11:37 am at 11:37 am in reply to: Lakewood Yeshivos closed because of Murphy not Corona. #1864430n0mesorahParticipantBoth opinions seem correct. People must move on, but be cautious at the same time. And think of others. Some need to distance more, and some need to distance less. (There may even be someone who needs cleaning help,pizza, and needs to stay out of shul.) It is much easier to social distance when we do it as a community. What happened? I have no idea. To paraphrase a philosopher ‘our community is dead and we killed it’. Let’s all do our part to make that line into an absolute lie.
n0mesorahParticipantWhere is this bocher today?
May 25, 2020 2:58 am at 2:58 am in reply to: Lakewood Yeshivos closed because of Murphy not Corona. #1864333n0mesorahParticipantDear Bocher,
It is wrong to say virtually zero about people who were in the hospital. [They are people, not zeros.] It is fine about people who are at risk of being hospitalized. [Now it is numbers, not people.] You may be correct about reopening, but do not forget the orphans, mourners, the ill, and the unemployed. There is a lot to clean up. Instead of blaming the President/Governor, or starting a minyan vs. cleaning help debate, we should think about those who really got hit.May 25, 2020 2:16 am at 2:16 am in reply to: English speaking countries are safest for Jews #1864326n0mesorahParticipantHow about Australia?
n0mesorahParticipantDear 29.
Thank you for looking! I think I am not submiting some of my posts before I close the page. If you have anyway to check that for me……n0mesorahParticipantLast month: “If groceries could be open, than shuls can be open.”
This month: “Every store should start selling groceries.”May 25, 2020 12:49 am at 12:49 am in reply to: Hachnosas Kalah or Mishuluchim during the day. #1864309n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
What mitzvah was the speech?n0mesorahParticipantI remember when I was in Lakewood, squankum avenue used to flood several times a year. Not anymore. The township put in new drains throughout town.
n0mesorahParticipantDear Syag,
I agree with that. But there is no push to pass legislation to help small businesses. I wrote a longer piece, but it did not post. All the stimulus bills make it hard to look into the matter, anyway. We agree to support the locals.
I don’t see any deleted postsn0mesorahParticipantThe frum stores do not want to miss the Shavuos season.
May 25, 2020 12:42 am at 12:42 am in reply to: Hachnosas Kalah or Mishuluchim during the day. #1864310n0mesorahParticipantDear Forshayer,
I heard from a well known senior Rav, that a woman home alone should not answer the door for a meshuluch.May 25, 2020 12:07 am at 12:07 am in reply to: What is EY doing in fighting Covi-19 that NYC can learn from” #1864299n0mesorahParticipantDear Joseph,
Great idea! You can go and help them reopen. No poor country has high numbers. But that is starting to change. -
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