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  • in reply to: Non-typical Wedding Ideas #2036760
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    You can check AirBnB or VRBO

    in reply to: Operation Paperclip #2035623
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    Reb Eliezer- given the bombing accuracy of the time (dump thousands of tons of bombs in a several mile radius and hopefully hit a factory that’s a mile wide) any attempt to bomb the tracks would be more likely to kill everyone in Auschwitz. Not to mention, let’s say they hit the tracks. All that means is they force the yidden in the camp to work 24/7 to fix the tracks, which wouldn’t take that long. so what exactly would that accomplish?

    not to mention, what shaychis does bombing the tracks have with operation paperclip

    in reply to: Should Rittenhouse have been there. #2033062
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    NoMesorah- You are certainly correct that if the goal was survival, staying home was the best bet, and concealed carry was the 2nd best option. However, the point was to protect and clean up businesses, while providing a back up plan for survival if that became necessary, which it did.

    I don’t really understand what you mean by “You have to commit to use the gun or call it off”
    running away with a gun is absolutely a valid tactic. people spend a lot of time practicing tactical retreats/withdrawals, leapfrogging when backup is available, etc.

    You don’t always shoot to kill, you shoot to stop the threat- for the first two, they stopped when they died. the third guy stopped after he was shot in the arm. Killing him at that point would be murder, because there is no reason to keep shooting if he’s no longer a threat.

    What would be accomplished by dropping the gun or holding it by the muzzle? I highly doubt that people would have stopped chasing him, as mobs are not known for their rational decision-making abilities. There is no rule that you have to kill anyone you are forced to shoot, and there is no rule governing the speed at which you retreat in a fight (other than “as fast as is prudent”). he wasn’t pointing the rifle over his shoulder and cranking off rounds, he was running away, and then shot when he was knocked to the ground from behind and beaten. The prudent decision was to get away ASAP from the murderous mob that just tried to kill him 3 times.

    “One can try to calmly back away with a drawn gun. But do not make a break for it.”

    Why not? wouldn’t you want to get away from the people who tried to take your gun and then kill you with theirs as fast as possible? what would be the reason to go slow?

    in reply to: Should Rittenhouse have been there. #2032870
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    NoMesorah- you seem to be lacking some information, as you said you’re relying on a lot of hearsay, so allow me to fill you in.

    First, let’s get a few things out of the way- Kyle was an idiot for being there, and his mother was a bigger idiot for letting him be there. However, I do not think we can say that a molester who got out of the mental hospital that morning (the first guy Kyle Shot, Joseph Rosenbaum) is totally innocent and would never have attacked Kyle if he didn’t have a rifle. Also, Kyle’s AR-15 is not an Assault Rifle. Assault rifles are specifically select-fire military rifles with intermediate cartridges. Kyle’s AR-15 is semi-automatic only, and was never used by the US military.

    He shouldn’t have been there at all, but once he was, it was completely reasonable to bring protection. Doesn’t mean he was totally super pumped to shoot someone, doesn’t mean he thought he was in the army, it means he wanted to go help the community his father lived in and he knew it could be dangerous, so he wanted to be able to protect himself. Once he was there, good idea or not, when people attack you and try to take your weapon it is reasonable, as the court ruled, to defend yourself.

    As someone who has been training with guns since he was 10 years old, I can tell you that Kyle did an excellent job of defending himself with his weapon. He didn’t fire any accidental rounds, didn’t fire until his life was being threatened, didn’t hit anyone who wasn’t trying to kill him first despite being in a crowded street, did all that while under massive pressure and despite being hit in the head with a skateboard and falling down. He lowered his rifle when the third guy seemed to be walking away, and only shot him when the third guy pointed his gun at him. he also fired only until the threat stopped, and didn’t just keep shooting. All in all, this is very very impressive.

    In court, there were a couple of essential things that came out- 1. All 3 of the people Kyle shot started up with him, while he was trying to get away from them. as I said before, he even lowered his gun when rioter #3 was backing away from him, and only fired when rioter #3 pointed his gun at kyle. 2. He was legally allowed to be where he was, with his gun.

    All in all, I don’t really understand your point. you say that “If you have a rifle, you use it or put it away. I’m not sure what he actually did, but he clearly lacked training or courage. Probably both.” Kyle did exactly what you said he should. he used his rifle when he was forced to to protect his own life, then slung it over his shoulder to “put it away” when he was close enough to police to stay safe. He acted courageously by not panicking, and I don’t know what sort of training he had, but he handled the situation as well as anyone possibly could have.

    in reply to: Macha against men not giving gittin #2013710
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    Yiddishkeit is not twitter, we don’t cancel people. Even in the 1 case where a beis din told people to go protest, the people went on to go after the guy’s family and their jobs, which is 1000% ossur. Are you a scumbag piece of garbage if you abuse halacha to hold someone in a marriage? for sure! But chukas hagoyim in the worst possible way is not a good method of getting people to listen to halacha. That guy from Afghanistan gave a get after 20 years b/c he was afraid of ISIS, should we start handing people to ISIS for not giving a get?

    Not to mention all these major “yorei shomayim” and “shluchei beis din” who spend their days on social media yelling about this stuff, and give interviews to the most disgusting, animalistic news outlets telling loshon hora on yidden to the lowest class of goyim around.

    Does any of this seem like something torahdig? Do pictures of these protests look like an event the Chofetz Chaim and R’ Moshe would be seen at, or an event AOC would be at? Do they look like birchas Kohanim by the kosel, chavrusah tumult in BMG, or the women’s march in DC? Do the announcements to go sound more like the invitations to the siyum hashas or an antifa protest?

    in reply to: Get Refusal- Family Involvement #1962084
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    It’s almost like adopting twitter tactics and turning the job of shluchei beis din and talmidei chachomim over to a bunch of lo yutzlachs who have no respect for halacha anyway was a bad idea that has and will lead to more chillul hashem and lynch mobs. Look at a picture of these get protests. do the people there look like yorei shomayim who mamesh feel for these poor women and are standing up for the kovod of beis din? Not in any of the pictures I’ve seen.

    in reply to: Get Refusal #1957729
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    regardless of who is or isn’t a “get refuser”- can anyone possibly think of a worse thing to encourage than “hey random people, form a mob and go ruin someone’s life based on hearsay”? This is very quickly going to turn into a nightmare, with the worst forms of loshon hara, and I have no doubt that countless innocent people are going to have their lives ruined over this.

    in reply to: Those guilty in SNL bloodlibel “joke” #1950959
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    I don’t understand the outrage about this joke. SNL thrives on making edgy jokes. This same comedy set had a joke about the new mars rover running a white supremacist twitter account, cuomo covering up nursing home deaths, and inappropriate conduct by catholic priests. It is highly unlikely that Michael Che made this particular joke because he really hates Jews or anything like that.

    in reply to: Twitter Bans Zelenko – He Should Switch To Parler #1931721
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    Parler is designed to be a version of twitter with free speech for all (as long as they are not directly threatening violence). Yes, free speech means disgusting people are allowed to say nasty things we disagree with. that will include anti-semitism and holocust denial. It also means you will be allowed to say all of the various things we believe as yidden that would have the types of people who like twitter accuse us of baing nazi facist haters.

    in reply to: Student Loan Forgiveness #1929277
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    The government created the problem as a whole, but the truth remains that the people who borrowed money individually have to return the money they promised to return. This isn’t going to return anything to the economy, because most people with productive jobs are already paying off their loans and are also spending money already. The people with no money to pay their loans got there because of bad financial decisions, and that won’t change if we forgive their loans.

    in reply to: Kashering A Laptop. #1902304
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    Remove the WiFi and bluetooth cards and Ethernet port. Any form of filter or digital block can be broken.

    in reply to: Filters Iphone 11 #1898066
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    if you have an iPhone, consider using th native restrictions. they work pretty well for most uses

    in reply to: Jacob Blake #1895841
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    There is a police officer on youtube, MikeTheCop, who said that Blake was known to local police to carry a gun in his car, told them at that time he had a gun in his car, was holding a knife, and had an active warrant for assault and domestic abuse.

    in reply to: What kind of police reforms do we need? #1886176
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    “body cameras should be on all the time without control of the wearers” Forget bathroom breaks. What about an officer texting a spouse? Talking to a confidential informant? Talking to a victim of a horrible crime who is terribly traumatized and doesn’t want their face plastered across the internet? Not to mention that body cams overwrite the footage they have every 30 min. because they just don’t have much storage. Suggesting that such footage be saved forever or uploaded to the cloud instantly is so financially and technically laughable it is not even a serious proposal.

    What reforms do police need?

    Before you even talk about it, if you are not committed to making their job easier in any way you can, and tackling crime by negating the causes of it, don’t even talk about changing policing or the police in general. If you want to make certain parts of policing more stringent, you need to make some parts of their job easier too.

    I think there are a lot of things police departments can do better. However, I want to point out that a lot of our community (and the whole country) falls into 2 camps.

    Camp 1- police officers are the bravest, best people ever. Litteral malachim who can do no wrong (I might say they theoretically can do wrong, but good luck finding a case that happened outside of an hour before shabbos where I thought the cops were wrong)

    Camp 2- I got a ticket once, or a cop was mean to me, and therefore I am to the far left of BLM, and I hold all cops are Nazis.

    We need to realize that police are just people who do a job that while scary, is not actually that dangerous relative to most jobs people hold (farming, roofing, and trucking are all kill more people every year). There are a lot of things (using qualified immunity, using civil asset forfeiture, de-escalation tactics, general community relations) that the police need to do a MUCH better job of. That being said, most police officers are wonderful people, not racist or anti-Semitic, and do a job which is lemaisa dangerous and scary, for little pay and horrific side effects. They keep us safe, and for that, they deserve hakoras hatov. But they are not perfectly good or perfectly bad.

    in reply to: Why does the government give benefits to kollel yungerleit? #1885259
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    There are many aspects to this question, depending on how you approach it. From a small government/conservative side, the government should not fund people who are intentionally poor. the idea of welfare should be to help people get back on their feet. Now, you might say funding education is a good idea, and it is, but this education does not contribute to the things that national policymakers consider valuable.

    That being said, we are yidden, not secular policymakers or small government advocates. If benefits will be distributed, then an exclusively peaceful nation of scholars that produces people who do contribute a lot to the nation physically (not usually while in kollel, but afterwards) and by and large pays taxes should definitely be on the list to receive benefits. From a yiddishe perspective, the world runs on Torah, and while some may not appreciate this, it is obvious to us that yungerleit learning in kollel are of immeasurable benefit to this country.

    in reply to: Socialism OTD #1884476
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    Socialism didn’t cause people to go OTD. People were losing their grip on Hashem for various reasons, and socialism was a new, attractive Ideology that was sweeping people up all over Europe.

    in reply to: Freedom of Speech #1882307
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    Yes. A swastika is davka freedom of speech. You don’t need a law protecting the right to say “good morning”. You need a law to protect speech people don’t like. People have the right to display a swastika, and I have a right to tell everyone what a disgusting racist they are and how we should all boycott any business they have or ask a nazi’s employer if that’s really who they want representing their company. We can’t just outlaw things that make us uncomfortable, even if we are uncomfortable for a good reason. We have to allow people to express their ideas, and then react appropriately.

    in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #1881343
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    George Floyd was not strangled. While kneeling on someone’s neck can cause asphyxiation and loss of blood flow to the brain, Floyd died from a combination of intoxicants in his system and underlying health conditions exacerbated by having the cops kneeling on his neck (aka he had a heart condition and being high and extreme stress plus a heavy weight pushing on you is not great for your health normally, let alone if you have a heart condition).

    in reply to: Is EMP Strike Imminent? #1875904
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    North Korea and Iran don’t have NEARLY the capability to launch an EMP Strike against the US. F-14s and Mig 17s from 1/2-3/4 of a century ago are not going to get through NORAD, or even get close enough to the US to be under the jurisdiction of NORAD. Honestly, I don’t know that China has capability to deliver an EMP to the US either. The US has not prepared for a domestic war against those countries, it has prepared for “if they get annoying enough, what’s the easiest way to invade and destroy them”.

    A single EMP strike would not take out the entire country. US domestic nuclear launch facilities are hardened against EMPs, as is a large area underneath the Pentagon, Air Force 1, The White House, and many other command and control locations, not to mention the multiple nuclear-capable carrier strike groups we have at sea pretty much constantly since the aircraft carrier was invented. While we can’t know for sure, it is INCREDIBLY likely that there is some sort of protocol for nuclear subs to launch if they don’t hear anything from their commanders after a certain amount of time. Not to mention US forces and diplomats all across the world, as well as the aforementioned EMP-hardened parts of the US military command and control. As I said before, I don’t know where you are getting your info, but I suggest not following that source and taking a chill pill.

    in reply to: Is EMP Strike Imminent? #1875379
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    I don’t know where you are getting these “talks and warnings” from, but I suggest you stop taking information from that source. China is not going to start a war with the US, because without us their country will collapse, not to mention that we would very likely win a war against them. No one is looking to start World War 3, especially in the current climate.

    It is patently ridiculous to imagine that the US government is totally cool with this impending strike, or can do nothing to avoid it, and is keeping us all at home to somehow prepare us for it. Even assuming that this was the case, how would a stay at home order be preparation for an EMP strike? Wouldn’t better preparation for a strike that would take out most of the US’s electrical devices be a summer full of outside work and play, which would make people better prepared to live without electricity?

    Are you possibly saying the Chinese released the virus to keep us at home as preparation? Why would they want to prepare us at all?

    While an EMP bomb is a legitimate tactic that might be used in warfare (although it is tantamount to a nuclear strike, and the most effective EMP weapons are in fact nuclear), I don’t know what you mean by “attack on the electrical grid by overpowering it”. An electromagnetic pulse is simply a pulse of electromagnetic energy that causes a massive power surge, destroying all electronics, not just those hooked up to the grid. EMPs can be naturally produced, or manually produced.

    in reply to: Atlanta #1874782
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    To add to Som1’s post- aside from the low likelihood of hitting someone’s leg, legs have veins and arteries that can easily be fatal if hit. For these two reasons, anyone who expects to be in any sort of self defense situation is trained to avoid attempting leg shots.

    in reply to: Atlanta #1874522
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    This guy was driving drunk, fought the police, stole one of their weapons, and tried to use it on them. the orientation of his body as he shot a stolen taser at a police officer is completely irrelevant. Even if he had just grabbed the taser and run, and they shot him in the back, it would STILL be ok! The supreme court ruled in Tenessee v. Garner that if the police think someone poses a threat to the public they can use appropriate force to prevent that person’s escape. A drunk child abuser who fought the cops and was running away with a stolen taser is certainly a threat. I don’t care if he was a yid, a goy, or a purple octopus- if you drive drunk, fight the police, and attempt to shoot them with a weapon you stole from them, you are going to get shot.

    The DA absolutely DOES NOT have any more evidence than we do- vha raya the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said they hadn’t given him any evidence or finished their investigation when the DA decided to charge the officers. Also, there is no “more evidence” that makes it ok to drive drunk, fight police, steal one of their tasers, and attempt to shoot them with it, all of which has been proven on multiple publicly accessible videos. The DA is under investigation for corruption and me too-related charges, and is currently losing in an election, so I think we all know why these officers were charged. Aside from being a terrible person, the DA said that one of the officers had agreed to turn state’s witness against the other, which was a lie, and just two weeks ago said a taser was a deadly weapon (when he was trying to punish police for using it) and is now saying it wasn’t, because he wants to get police in trouble.

    The police in Atlanta didn’t walk out because they were mad (although they certainly are). They walked out because one of their colleagues was just tried with murder for following the procedure they were trained on and using deadly force on a suspect who was attempting to tase him. This makes it unsafe for them to do their job. Imagine if your boss at a restaurant told you that you should make a sandwich a certain way, then charged you $10,000 because a restaurant reviewer didn’t like the sandwich. Would you stay, and risk another $10,000 fine every time you made a sandwich the way you were trained, or would you leave because you don’t want to risk it? Police don’t wnat to work in a job where they either have to accept anything a criminal does to them, or risk jail time if they respond in any way, even if their response is proper.

    in reply to: Post Corona: The New Frum Community #1862462
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    Why re-invent the wheel? There are numerous communities across the US with all the small town meilos you listed. Baltimore, Silver Spring, Dallas, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Phoenix, Richmond, South Bend, and Norfolk are only some of the places that come to mind. These places already have a lot of frum infrastructure, like shulls, schools, and kosher food.

    in reply to: what will post covid-19 look like? #1856967
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    I think the first shabbos back will be bittersweet. While I think everyone will be happy to be back in shul, I imagine there will still be some measures in place. It is not unlikely that the first while back in shul will require masks and social distancing, and I can’t imagine anyone will be allowed to have a kiddush. Remember, this thing will end in steps, not suddenly.

    in reply to: Chinese Lab Origination of Wuhan Coronavirus #1856588
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    I can’t speak to number 2 or 3 (I believe it was probably number 2 though), but I think that we can definitively rule out that this was an intentionally released bioweapon. Firstly, scientists can tell when a virus is natural or artificial. Everyone has been saying that this virus looks natural. Secondly, this is a relatively benign virus. It spreads well, but the death rate is very low. If it were an intentionally created bio-weapon, it would be killing a lot more people. No one wants to invent an artillery shell that covers a very small area when it explodes, and no one wants to create a virus that barely kills anyone (compared to things like anthrax and the black death).

    in reply to: A Possible Explanation #1853391
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    How about this: we don’t know, and we can’t know, so let’s stop with the crazy explanations, especially when they slander the victims like this. Just have emunah that this is all for the best, like everything else, and move on!

    in reply to: Minyan #1844462
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    JUST STAY HOME!!!! You are not smarter than the rabbonim. You are not smarter than the ER doctors. You are not smarter than the epidemiologists. Everyone who knows anything about both the medical and halachic side of things is telling you to stay home and daven alone. Stop trying to be a tzaddik. There is no mitzvah to increase the chances of people dying because you decided to ignore every rav and doctor. Israel said that 25% of cases were from shuls and minyanim. Are you willing to get 2 or 3 people sick per minyan while going against piskei halacha and medical advice? Your first sentence was correct: CLEARLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS NOT TO DAVEN WITH A MINYAN. The more “safe” minyanim you make, the more “safe” minyanim there will have to be as more people die and more people need to say kaddish for them.

    in reply to: What programming language is better to start learning? #1831298
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    It depends on what you want to do. Python is great for scripting. Many companies prefer Java or C++ for more detailed development. Don’t look for anonymous answers on YW, go to linkedin and look for professionals who can give you actual advice and help you figure out what you want to do and how.

    in reply to: Why is the Wider Frum Public Making a Big Deal Over Bryant’s Death #1826634
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    1. Basketball is basically the most popular sport in yeshiva. A lot of people follow it, so they know about Koby Bryant.

    2. He was extremely famous, so even if you and no one you know followed basketball (very unlikely in a vast majority of yeshivos) you probably heard of him at least a little.

    3. Helicopter crashes are big news.

    4. He was young, his daughter was obviously also very young, and 6 or 7 other people died. It’s very sad.

    5. It’s getting wall to wall coverage in the goyish media. Even if you don’t follow sports or care about celebrities, if something is being covered by literally every outlet all day, you will most likely hear about it.

    in reply to: gun control #1818195
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    Gun control has not and will not work. You don’t have to like guns, but do you trust people like “no bail” Deblasio to protect you? Is training important? Yes, of course. However, look around a vast majority of places with gun control. People get attacked, and they can’t do anything. Guns are the great equalizer. The smallest, weakest person with a gun can defend themselves from the biggest thug who is trying to hurt them. All these attacks in NY- you think that people would randomly punch yidden if they knew they would be killed over it? The chapsem worked, and concealed carry works even better. Even if you don’t like guns, and don’t want one, you have no right to make it illegal for those who want to protect themselves or others.

    in reply to: $5,000.000 donated to Trump by Orthodox Jews, can we afford it? #1800280
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    “Do we have the luxury” No. “we” don’t. However, the people who donated do. There is no requirement that every penny of donated money goes to your preferred causes. Look at the names of people who attended. Guys like Ruby Schron give more tzedaka than we could imagine. It is none of our business how gvirim spend their money. They are giving plenty to tzedaka, and they can do whatever they want with the rest of their money.

    in reply to: Is it ‘un-manly’ to take kids to the park? #1770849
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    No, being a decent parent is not “unmanly”

    in reply to: Which way does Ywn lean? #1769782
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    Neither. I think they do a pretty good job of staying in the center, because I see people complaining they are too liberal and I also see people complaining they are too conservative. This leads me to think they are doing a good job of staying in the center. I see comments with different opinions, and articles with different biases.

    in reply to: Predictions for 2020 #1732895
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    I don’t think it is possible to make predictions so far from the election. Things change in a minute, and we never know what could happen in the next week, forget the next year.

    in reply to: I don’t understand outcome of Mueller report #1718400
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    There is a major legal machlokes over whether there can be obstruction of justice with no underlying crime. The tzad to say yes is that even if there is no crime, you still can’t mess with investigations. The tzad to say no is that if there is no crime, there is no justice to obstruct.

    in reply to: Wars every 28 years #1688184
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    What about Grenada, Nicaragua, the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, Serbia, and Somalia in the 80s and 90s?

    in reply to: Guns #1681291
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    I don’t think the problem is with the guns. First, let’s look at the actual numbers- out of the 30,000ish deaths annually involving guns, roughly 2/3 are suicides. That’s not a gun problem, it’s a suicide/mental health problem. People commit suicide in all kinds of ways, and no one is discussing banning bridges or razor blades, because we recognize that suicide, not the tool used, is the issue. Then, once you get around 10,000 murders with guns, realize that around 90% of that is gang murders. That’s not a gun problem, it’s a gang problem. Is 1,000 deaths really a national issue of horrific significance? Obviously, it’s not good- but it is overblown. Don’t join a gang or commit suicide, and you are more likely to die from flu or in some sort of accident. As for banning certain types of guns- all the guns I have heard proposals to ban function the same as any other gun. Additionally, good luck confiscating 300 million guns from 80-100 million Americans. Also, I don’t really understand how you can offer an opinion on this without knowing anything about it. You wouldn’t join a discussion about yeshivos if you didn’t know the difference between Beis Yaakov and BMG, so how can you join a discussion on guns without knowing anything about them? Luna- those “big guns” you talk about shoot at the exact same rate as pistols. Not to mention the fact that millions of people around the country depend on them for hunting and defending their farms from coyotes, groundhogs, and other pests. Also, rifles (the big guns) are used in around 1% of crimes committed with guns.

    in reply to: Greater danger to yeshivas being ignored #1669738
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    You find SUING to be a problem? If people were molested, let them sue the yeshiva, rebbi, and everyone involved out of existence.

    in reply to: Sephardim And Driving Nazi Cars #1669294
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    Again with this stupidity? None of these companies are even the same companies as they were during the war. They have all been bought and sold and reorganized a million times. The parts are made in China and final assembly is in Mexico. It’s one thing if you are a survivor who gets flashbacks if you see a symbol you saw in the camps or something, but if you just want to boycott everything made by someone who wronged the Jews, enjoy your cave on a desert Island.

    in reply to: Should schools have midwinter break #1668764
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    Absolutely not. Kids, unlike the rest of us, can work hard for months with no break. We should just make them sit in yeshiva for 8+ hours a day, with no breaks, ever. Kids in school for hours longer than their parents jobs, with no breaks, what could possibly go wrong? There is no way this will cause any bitterness or burnout.

    in reply to: Why do people get nervous when they fly? #1653324
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    Statistics, cars versus planes, none of this matters. No one is sitting down with a bunch of studies and making an educated choice to be afraid of small planes. People see news stories about crashes, look at a tiny little plane that is only powered by a propeller, and decide that flying around in this thing is not something they feel safe doing.

    in reply to: Corporal punishment must remain an option for teachers #1652712
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    1: people used to give birth at home without medical attention, and many turned out fine. Do you think we shouldn’t use doctors? We don’t live in the same world as we used to.

    in reply to: Corporal punishment must remain an option for teachers #1652512
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    1. Corporal punishment is illegal. Do you really think it will never get out if it starts being used in yeshivas?
    2. Kids now are different. They will not respond well to being hit anymore. They are much more likely to become traumatized and resentful.
    3. Kids hit back now. The one time a teacher in my yeshiva (not a rebbi, but if it was the result would be no different) hit someone, the kid knocked him down and punched him. When threatened with discipline, the kid told the teacher “Go ahead! tell anyone you want! I’ll tell them why I hit you, and you will never get out of jail!”

    in reply to: All Natural Way to Prevent Disease #1651280
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    Great idea! The problem is that if we just give someone an infected blanket or something, they might not catch the disease. What effective and efficient way is there to deliver such a controlled virus?

    in reply to: Would you re-elect trump?!?! #1651282
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    Probably not. I voted for him the first time, but now he has moved to limit gun rights and is getting kookier by the hour. Plus he got rid of Mattis. It depends who runs against him, but he is going to have to work hard to earn my vote back.

    in reply to: New England Patriots,. A Class Organization #1646668
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    Yes, but those athletes are often pushed into it as kids when they don’t understand the risks.

    in reply to: How Do I Unvaccinate My Kids? #1644145
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    Lechoirah you stick the needle back in and pull the vaccine out, like the reverse of giving it.

    in reply to: Proof that vaccines are safe #1643358
    NOYB
    Participant

    Doomsday: Since around when Saddam Hussain invaded Kuwait in 1991, we have the SICKEST GENERATION EVER! Was the increase in sickness a result of the first Gulf war? No, correlation does not equal causation. You have to prove that it was vaccines that caused this supposed spike. The autism spike is likely because of improvements in diagnostics and awareness, as well as an expansion of the definition of autism. BTW, if you are talking about vaccines being bad, do yourself a favor and leave autism out. It is the weakest anti-vaccine argument there is, having no basis and being disproven over and over. As for the other statistics: What was the trend before the timeframe you listed? Is there real proof these things are related to vaccines (proof is scientific studies, not “I know a guy” or “we tracked 4 people for 2 weeks”)? Where are you getting them from? I know for a fact that measles deaths this year are not 0, why should I believe any of your other statistics?

    in reply to: Are students allowed to be thrown out of school? Mesivta/ high school #1638180
    NOYB
    Participant

    Depends on many things. What did the bochur do? What yeshiva are we talking about? Does the bochur have any options afterward? If you are going to throw a bochur out of a standard yeshiva for going to an “off limits” pizza store motzei shabbos (assuming they just went to get pizza), that seems extreme. If you are going to throw a bochur out of a high level yeshiva for taking drugs and missing a week of shiur, that is more reasonable.

    in reply to: The danger of Republicans keeping the house #1614979
    NOYB
    Participant

    I’m not worried. I have guns, they don’t. You’ll notice Antifa only goes to liberal places like Portland and Berkeley. They know that showing up in somewhere like Fort Worth, Texas would end badly for them, so they stay away.

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